Iran and Nork Updates

| January 4, 2020

More on what Iran is up to these days:  https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-ilhan-omar-attacks-trump-for-killing-top-iranian-terrorist-promotes-conspiracy-theory

The list of past events sponsored by Iran is at the bottom of the article.

This view from the NY Post is worth a careful read, too:  https://nypost.com/2020/01/03/attack-on-qassem-soleimani-was-deterrence-not-escalation/

In particular, read carefully this view of Iran’s attempts to provoke Trump into real warfare:   The mullahcracy in Iran, supported by Soleimani’s Revolutionary Guard Corps, seeks to expand its influence in the region through the use of force. It believes in force. It sees glory in the use of force. And it sees no difference between conventional battlefield exchanges, ginned-up demonstrations at the US embassy in Baghdad or terrorist strikes.

For such an adversary that does not view peace as the ultimate goal, the calculus is simple: They test and prod and dare and in so doing seek to exhaust and debilitate their foe.

The way to stop it is not “peace.” It is, rather, deterrence. – article

If you go back to when these oddball attacks started in the Middle East, it starts making a lot more sense. The slaughter of Israeli athletes at the Olympics; hijacking a passenger plane and killing a US Navy sailor and dumping his body on the tarmac; the bombing of the Pan Am airliner; the constant conflict in Northern Ireland that carried over to a bombing in London; the truck bombing of the Marine Corps barracks in Beirut; the bombing of US Navy ships Stark and Cole; the constant poking like this, culminating in the 2001 plane hijackings and destruction – all of this is part of a long-term pattern that was meant to start a major war, if you will, to “end all wars”. And China, which has a vested interest in the rare earths in Afghanistan and Pakistan, is keeping a very watchful eye on what happens there.

There has never been “peace” in the Middle East, not since civilization was invented and people started cultivating wheat and domesticating wild cattle, sheep and goats.  Never. When Crassus, who was supposed to govern the land of the Parthians, took his army there to defeat the Parthians, he made every mistake possible and it cost him everything. He went to a meeting with them and they executed him by pouring molten gold down his throat… or that’s the story that came back. Those people do not want peace; they want turmoil and destruction. If you try to appease them, you are dead meat on a fork. Ask Crassus about that.

If you really want to stop them, you will have to bite the bullet and pound them into the ground. Trump knows it, and does not want that.

On a side note: Norkiland’s Glorious Leader has announced that he is reviving his nuclear testing and missile program, because he did not get what he wanted out of Trump. Can’t leave him out, can we? He’s going to restart his rocketry and nukes science again, because he didn’t get to have his way with Trump.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-technology-analys/faster-rockets-more-warheads-what-north-korea-could-gain-from-new-weapons-development-idUSKBN1Z10BQ

Faster rockets. More warheads…. Hmmm….

From the article:  This week North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said that the world would soon see his country’s “new strategic weapon” and that there was no longer reason for Pyongyang to be bound by a self-imposed moratorium on nuclear and intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) tests.

Kim’s comments were the strongest indication that the North could resume some of the major tests it had suspended more than two years ago in the run-up to summit diplomacy with the United States.

After years of development, the weapons programs of North Korea are now advanced enough that it is hard to predict what it might test, said Jeffrey Lewis, a researcher at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies (CNS).

U.S. military officials have said they see a long-range missile launch as one of the most likely possibilities. – article

Hey, ND:tBF didn’t get what he wanted out of Trump when he took the train to Hanoi, so he’s gotta get attention somehow.  Since his missiles are more successful than Iran’s (remember the missile blowing up on the pad in Iran?), is he going to go commercial and sell his rocket science outside Norkiland?  Stay tuned. He may find some solace in dealing with Iran, since their test rocket self-destructed on the pad a few weeks ago.

 

Category: Iran, North Korea, Politics

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5th/77th FA

Spot on Mi’Lady and tanks for the linkys. Neither of these 2 despotic countries will rest until they destroy us or we are forced to destroy them. When you constantly poke at the bear, you should not be surprised when the bear takes a swipe at you. We will have more concern for the sleeper agents that are already here than any perceived threat from either one’s military. I have seen some blurbs on line about Iraqi people celebrating what daTrumpster did that have not been reported in the lame street media.

Also real curious about the “swarms of drones” that have been spotted out toward Colorado and Wyoming.

My powder is dry.

Graybeard

I think I need to purchase or reload a few more rounds.

Range time eats ’em up.

AW1Ed

Iran’s economy is in melt-down. The Mad Mullahs are trying to drive a wedge between the US and Europe to open up their oil markets, and violence is all they have left. They’ve been steadily ramping up their activities by hijacking oil tankers, shooting down a US drone, and attacking Saudi oil fields.

Then they screwed the camel by killing a US contractor and wounding several of our troops by a rocket attack on a Kirkuk base. Trump’s gloves came off.

In retaliation to Trump’s response to the Kirkuk attack, Soleimani’s Revolutionary Guard and Iraqi militias tried for another Benghazi at the US Embassy in Bagdad. This failed, and a target of opportunity was spotted at BIAP.

AMF, Soleimani, and a two other high ranking players.

Icing the cake, a couple leakers were droned the next day.

Win-win-win.

26Limabeans

“Icing the cake, a couple leakers were droned the next day”

Not fair Trump getting two scoops of icecream.

11B-Mailclerk

Give him three scoops, on me.

CCO

With pecans.

Roh-Dog

Doubt it, the Mu-mu-mullahs generally look at all Sunni sects as heretics, especially the Sufi which the Uyghur tend to tolerate.
I thought the Cole bombing was al-Qae-duh?
F*ck ‘em all.

Roh-Dog

Never mind about that Cole question, it was a broad observation.
Coffee time.

26Limabeans

Another French connection that we should
have been following long long ago.
And don’t even get me started on their
Southeast Asia involvement that gave us
the Viet of the Nam.
Should Iran fall, France should take in
all the refugees. Fair is fair.

2banana

That is why any successful invasion of a middle eastern country has to be inhumanely savage and barbaric.

See the conquest of middle east countries by islamic armies, Tamberlin, and Genghis Khan for examples.

And FYI. The Romans learned their lesson on how to treat and deal with the Parthians. Will the west do the same?

https://youtu.be/l1Qy62Mp4wk

Graybeard

As I understand it, the calculus for victory is 2/3 of the military age males need to die.

I do not see a permanent peace in the Middle East until after the Biblical Armageddon (not any metaphorical Armageddon). But to put the kibosh on the current crop of evil, at least a 2/3rds death toll is required, as I understand it.

YMMV

11B-Mailclerk

That ratio is “bottom up” thinking.

Kill the top leaders, and their replacements may be more willing to negotiate. If not, repeat until a reasonable one rises.

I do not care the tantrums they throw verbally. What did they -do-? Immediate counter-response encourages moderation.

If not in the grand poo-bah, then in his eventual successor.

The Other Whitey

Ilhan Omar is mad because some Air Force guys did something and some of her fellow-travelers were on the wrong end of it.

penguinman000

Thomas Friedman has been wrong on lots of things. But he was right about Hama Rules. Power is respected in that region. Not restraint.

JTB

Us popping Salami has to K.J some pause…

David

Love how all the Hollyweirders are excoriating Trump for taking out a known terrorist, especially after damn near deifying Obama for giving the order to take out bin Laden.

11B-Mailclerk

Summed up by that idiot who said right action, wrong commander in chief.

Also tips that their “correct” CiC made wrong actions.

Charles

I am convinced that Soleimani’s reason for being in Iraq, and having the meeting with Iraq sympathizers, was nothing less than to plan and execute an assault and a takeover of the American Embassy in the manner that it was done in Tehran Iran in 1979. The original “demonstration” on the perimeter was a poorly organized and led demonstration, but it was also a test run to determine American response time and to set up both sides for a later full assault. Three days later, most — but not all — of the attackers withdrew. A professional core remained to continue surveillance of the objective. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50966958 I disagree that Soleimani’s Revolutionary Guard and Iraqi militias were going to try for another Benghazi. They had bigger goals: they were planning for another Tehran, with American hostages inside the embassy surrounded by “student protesters” and led by the Quds in civilian clothing. The assumption would be that the United States would not risk the beheading of its entire Embassy staff and would have had to parley their way out of the situation, perhaps by a Jimmy “the Coward” Carter style total withdrawal of the US from Iraq, with the embassy hostages the last Americans to leave on the last flight out. The attackers would have been portrayed as “students” and “demonstrators,” not the work of a foreign government against US territory (and embassy real estate IS United States real estate under the Vienna Convention governing diplomatic affairs). But to pull it off, the Iranians and their sympathizers in Iraq would have needed arms, intelligence, a cover story, perhaps several more assaults to test defenses and to de-sensitize the defenders: “Oh, just another demonstration, nothing to see here” … … until this time well-prepared demolition charges blow gaps in the walls and the demonstrators now have hundreds of rifles, RPG’s and grenades as they surge through the gaps within minutes. The Iranians were willing to bet that the Americans would not attack Iran, at least in the manner of George Bush vs. Iraq (full mobilization and deployment) since in their mind they had:… Read more »

Hack Stone

He earned those two scoops of ice cream.

11B-Mailclerk

Trump’s warning of “52” follow-up targets speaks volumes.

He is playing to end this long-running war, victoriously.

thebesig

When you hear an unknown warplane overhead and your spy told you that President Trump will be eating ice cream tonight (r/The_Donald):

learn of ice cream

Charles

Admins: I can’t edit my post.
Please correct my spelling typos:

“goin” to “going” and “Iraian” to “Iranian.”

Thank you.

Then feel free to delete this reply.

thebesig

Changes made. :mrgreen:

Hack Stone

It’s your own damn fault for by your Spellcheck software from some lame ass proud but humble woman owned business located in Bethesda Maryland.