Nothin’ Left To Lose….

| March 3, 2022

Please take the time to read this: it is Lord Monckton’s expressive article about how we got into the state of decay and threats that we face now.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/03/03/the-strategic-threat-from-net-zero-emissions/

The threat is not from CO2 emissions. It is from the attempts to put us all – everyone in the free world – under the thumb of Communism.  This has been going on since the Tsar and his family  were slaughtered in the early 20th century.

Included in the article is the info that the rights to lithium mining worldwide are 100% in the hands of the Chinese government, and they will be digging for it in Afghanistan, too. I brought this up over a year ago.  They don’t care who gets poisoned by that crap. If you own the rights to all the lithium carbonate in the world, and lithium is a major part of electronic components, what does that tell you?

I’m posting it on TAH today, because I wanted to give you all a heads-up on it.  Lord Monckton goes into precise detail about how we got where we are now. Spread it around.

I’m wondering how much of the attacks on 2nd Amendment gun rights have been driven by the commies, not on whether or not we can put a stop to it. When did it really start? And why? And who drove it? And why are some people being denied use of some of the major internet outlets? It’s in the article.

The article takes about 45 minutes to read. Please take the time to do so. Get a cold drink (or hot) and settle in. Monckton is very thorough in his discussion of how things have devolved into what we face right now, including how the failed strikes by UK coal miners (Labor) failed to stop Thatcher’s government from doing its job, which was to keep the UK going.

Monckton makes more sense than anyone else I’ve run into, because when I was in grade school, anyone who had a membership in the right-wing John Birch Society was viewed as dangerous. We would refer to that now as “unpersoned”.  Look where we are right now, and how dysfunctional an entire generation after yours has become.

Monckton does make the point that having Biden in the White House was planned way ahead, for exactly what is going on now.  You let the slime in the door, as the democrats have done, and it will swallow you alive. That was all planned.

The statistics on Stalin’s acquisition of the Russian military and then the government included the executions of over 36,000 Red Army officers, who were made to dig their own graves and then shot and thrown into them.  He saw them as a threat, because they were career officers and had a wealth of experience, which was a threat to his power and control.

I’m quite sincere in saying that I hope Vlad Putin has his ass handed to him in Ukraine.

Freedom is not free. Never has been.

Category: 2020 Election, America, China, Russia

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David

1st Amendment gun rights?

AW1Ed

Fixed. Good read, thanks.

USMC Steve

The first amendment gives you the right to talk about guns.

Roh-Dog

More like Neo-feudalism, but samesame.

–Strong personal opinion alert/not financial advice–

If they are really going for the gold (pun intended) we are in the midst of currency destruction. These sanctions can cause a reverberation that forces the world to de-dollar. If this happens…

Anonymous

Buy ammo, canned food, etc. too.

5JC

And Iodide Pills…..

USMC Steve

One big reason the soviets lost so manypeople in WWII was because of that. The experienced quality officer corps was gone. The ones that came were never their potential equals, but The soviets won because they had enough cannon fodder to throw at the Germans to grind them down. The Soviet / Russian army has never done well in combat since then.

Berliner

Long time fan of wattsupwiththat starting with their documenting false global warming via pictures of weather reporting stations, as an example, surrounded by asphalt or one in the arctic on top of a occupied building.

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LC

I realize I’ll get downvoted for this, but suggesting that climate change is false (and somehow a ploy by communists?) because some weather stations had bad data is like saying that because I look out my window and I don’t see any terrorists, terrorism isn’t a thing and it’s all just a ploy to, I dunno, keep the Illuminati in control.

The first example conveniently ignores the mountains of increasingly-sophisticated satellite data, which by now is far more pervasive and accurate than a mercury thermometer outside a heat-vent on a building, and the second obviously ignores the countless experiences of soldiers, innocent lives lost, self-proclaimed terrorists and more. It’s ludicrous to seize on one questionable thing and say, “Aha! False!”, ignoring all the supporting evidence.

LC

It seems to me that Berliner was suggesting it was false – the words, ‘false global warming’ don’t leave much wiggle room.

And nobody is saying it happens in the blink of an eye; most of the focus is on how aerosols emitted since the industrial era have an effect on things, especially heat retention from sunlight. And, naturally, there are tipping points – just as a single snowflake by itself isn’t going to put much stress on a tree branch, over time enough can cause it to snap.

Now, I take plenty of issue with the alarmists too, even if I think they have good intentions at heart. I’m happy to digress into why I disagree with them in some respects, but it seems a discussion for another time. Rather, to continue my analogy above, just as there are people making piles and piles of cash from ‘fighting terrorism’, this in and of itself does not mean that terrorism isn’t a thing. The same with ‘climate change’.

Berliner

I live near a weather reporting station. It is within a fenced structure in a grass field. SEATAC airport, until a few years ago, was constantly reporting higher temperatures than the surrounding stations. The issue: They had their station on asphalt, not far from the Alaska Airlines gates. Once they moved the station away from the jet exhaust and radiating asphalt… SHAZAM! Just like that SEATAC got cooler.

Berliner

By early August 2021, John Kerry had taken 20+ flights on his Gulfstream jet, emitting over 138 metric tons of carbon in the atmosphere, or 30 times the carbon emitted by a car driven for a year.

“Elitist Kerry has justified his massive carbon footprint by saying that he is an important guy and must jet everywhere to save the planet. On the other hand, cynical Kerry has admitted that even if the world cut emissions to zero, that would not solve the ‘climate problem’ … Sure, Kerry makes a good poster child for climate hypocrisy, but he is not alone. Al Gore, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Leonardo DiCaprio, Barack Obama are some other mega-carbon footprint-making climate alarmists that come to mind. Having learned nothing from Marie Antoinette, these climate hypocrites sabotage their own efforts.” 

7711C20

Climate always changes. Where I am sitting was a mile under ice 11,700 years ago and the climate warmed without one factory or SUV. “You think man can destroy the planet? What intoxicating vanity……Earth has survived everything in its time. It will certainly survive us…We’ve been residents here for the blink of an eye. If we’re gone tomorrow, the earth will not miss us.” – Michael Crichton

LC

Michael Crichton was a bright guy, certainly, but I’ll raise you one whom I think is inarguably brighter, Archimedes:

“Give me a place to stand and with a level I will move the whole world.”

I’d argue it is intoxicating vanity to think we cannot change the earth in a meaningful way; we dam rivers, harvest forests, build canals, etc, all of which aren’t exactly ‘nature as intended’. What nobody is arguing is what Crichton suggests – that the Earth won’t survive. Of course it will. We’re merely talking about changes that affect the finely-tuned ecosystem we have for human life. And it needn’t be some catastrophic change either.. a few degrees warmer isn’t going to make us all melt, but it does change natural habitats, and islands with a lot of sea-level territory will lose territory, and people will be displaced.

This isn’t ‘end of the world’ territory, but it clearly is worth understanding and, as best we can, mitigating unwanted effects.

SFC D

I think he said “lever”.

LC

And with a single typo, I’ve changed history forever. Unless he actually meant level and we’re all part of the flat-earth conspiracy. 😉

Poetrooper

Why must you climate Chicken Littles always start with the false premise that we are denying climate change? In fact, we do accept that the climate is changing, just as it always has, as paleoclimatology has established. What we do not accept is your silly anthropogenic reasons for it, nor do we abide your overwrought urgency and impractical solutions.

No one is denying the satellite data, but where we do depart from your hysterical sky is falling conclusions is with regard to the reasons for those readings. The climate, so to speak, of the Sun, plus Earth’s precession, are the primary drivers of climate change, as they have always been.

As ol’ Poe has said here before, if your kind didn’t have climate change (remember when it was called global warming before climatological realities made that sound so foolish you libs, overnight and in lockstep, changed it to climate change?) you’d find something else to be panicked about, perhaps plate tectonics. Yeah, try stopping that…

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Roh-Dog

Carbon Dioxide, it’s what plants crave!

Also, these idiots tend not to understand; what CO2 is, where it is, and how much there is.

Don’t even get me started on water cycle, the specific heat of water and the volume of that heat sink. I’ve heard the gallons of the Atlanta Ocean is like at least a million. Thanks Snapple!

LC

As I said above to Ex-PH2, it certainly seems like Berliner was denying change, though I’m very glad to see many take a less extreme stand here, yourself included. It gives me hope that perhaps you can be lead to reason, Poe.

And, for the record, I’m hardly a ‘chicken little’ when it comes to climate change – I take issue with the dire predictions of many scientists because they’re often made in the same fatalistic mindset of, “If nothing happens, this BAD THING WILL!”, and I view that as somewhat akin to driving on the highway at full speed, seeing cars stopped ahead, and screaming out that we’re gonna die… when, in fact, I have tools like brakes to use, or off-ramps, or other such things.

And yes, the sun is a major driver of climate – nobody is denying that. But what we’re finding is that how much of those little rays of sunlight are reflected out of the atmosphere matters a lot, and atmospheric chemistry that we contribute to is a big determinant on that.

USAFRetired

I have no doubt climate is changing. With regard to the warming part of change. I believe that large star in the sky 93 million miles from here has a bigger effect than humans ever will.

Bill R.

I believe few people deny the climate is changing. I do however deny that mankind is the primary cause. Short of nuclear war that’s a pretty arrogant stance. That said, yes, we need to be good stewards of mother earth. I always pack out more than I packed in and going to natural wonders and seeing litter on the ground really pisses me off.

LC

And I’ll politely disagree with you on the arrogance aspect – I think it’s arrogant to feel we can’t affect the planet. We do it and see it all the time, just not in cataclysmic ways.

Fully agree on being good stewards to the planet, though, and yeah, seeing litter in places of pristine nature (well, anywhere really) annoys the hell out of me. It ain’t hard to take it out instead of leaving it there!

LC

As I said above to Poe, I’m truly glad to see people at least understanding that the climate is changing, as some people stake out more extreme positions.

I think, if we were to sit down together over a beer, I could show you how you’re both correct about that large star, and yet how we can influence its effects. It’s a bit like saying how if I were trying to build a sandcastle and a rainstorm were coming in. Well, there’s no way I’m stopping a rainstorm, right? But I don’t have to, I can simply change how much of that rain gets to the ground via a tent or something, and that mitigates the vast majority of the effect that would wash away my sandcastle.

We needn’t have a bigger effect than the sun, but by understanding the atmospheric interactions, we can perhaps change how we trap or reflect its rays, with a discernible effect. You can’t stop the sun either, but I bet wearing sunglasses helps you see when it’s really bright, no?

Poetrooper

LC, you might not get so much blowback if you could contain the liberal snarkiness such as displayed in the opening paragraph of your original comment. Such intellectual contempt is what gets you Chicken Littled.

Your examples of damming rivers, harvesting forests and digging canals are not a valid response. Comparing anthopogenic alterations in static earthbound environments to altering a chaotic (and by order of magnitudes larger) system is an ineffective argument.

Read about the Green Saharas, excellent examples of dramatic climate change that impacted human existence over a vast region for millenia, caused by, say scientists, axial precession. Please tell us what you think man can do to prevent the planet from tilting.

Liberal precession: a quixotic tilting at environmental windmills… 😉 

SFC D

Whatever happened to that big hole in the ozone that was going to cause our demise?

Poetrooper

The Ozone Hole closed up after we reached Peak Oil and all our petroleum sources dried up so we had no more gasoline, which of course was immediately followed by all that Acid Rain that destroyed all our forests and we entered the Silent Spring caused by DDT just as the Population Bomb hit and the Worldwide Famine struck.

Of course by then we were facing Global Warming which morphed into Climate Change when the damned climate kept snowing everywhere Al Gore and the environmentalists held a Global Warming conference making them look just a bit foolish.

Let’s see, where were we…? 😁 

SFC D

Wasn’t that the prelude to “Mad Max”?

Poetrooper

Ummm, was that before or after the polar icecaps and all the glaciers melted causing a worldwide shortage of polars bears in municipal zoos? 😁 

LC

Poe, I could wish you a happy birthday, and you’d find ‘liberal snark’ in it. And no, I’d argue that a local area damming a river is absolutely a chaotic action, with impacts to the local ecology, only on a small (less than global) scale.

If we dammed or altered the course of the Colorado River -which is certainly within he realm of our capabilities, right?- then that would absolutely impact people living in Utah and Nevada, no? They rely on that river for water. This is a relatively simple geophysical change, with real effects. Why is it so hard to believe global emissions might have global impacts?

SFC D

It wouldn’t impact Utah or Nevada nearly as much as California. They own most of the water rights to the Colorado.

Poetrooper

LC asks, “Why is it so hard to believe global emissions might have global impacts?”

No one here is saying that. What we are saying is that there are much greater systems and forces at work whose magnitudes and impacts on the atmosphere dwarf any contributions by anthrpogenic global emissions.

Even volcanic eruptions have more impact than man-made emissions. The most beautiful sunsets I’ve ever witnessed were in Hawaii a year after the VEI-6 Mt. Pinatubo eruption. And that’s one volcano affecting Earth’s atmospherics a year later. Show me a man-made event of equal consequence.

And comparing the damming of the Colorado (dammed in multiple places BTW) to dynamic changes in the Earth’s atmosphere is a lame response.

Ol’ Poe’s birthday is June 30th… 😜 

Poetrooper

Mount Pinatubo – Wikipedia

The effects of the 1991 eruption were felt worldwide. It ejected roughly 10 billion tonnes (1.1×1010 short tons) or 10 km3 (2.4 cu mi) of magma, and 20 million tonnes (22 million short tons) of SO
2, bringing vast quantities of minerals and toxic metals to the surface environment. It ejected more particulate into the stratosphere than any eruption since Krakatoa in 1883. Over the following months, the aerosols formed a global layer of sulfuric acid haze. Global temperatures dropped by about 0.5 °C (0.9 °F) in the years 1991–1993,[8] and ozone depletion temporarily saw a substantial increase.[9]

Poetrooper

Oh BTW, LC, why did you ignore my reference to the Green Saharas phenomenon?

Podcast: When the Sahara Was Green – Eos

KoB

Yes’um, we’ve preached this sermon to the choir here many times over the years. We can only pray that the congregation is actually larger than it seems by the comment count. Many of us that stood for freedom couldn’t make ourselves believe that America could be destroyed from within. Pogo nailed it years ago.

It’s still not too late to change the path of destruction of this Republic. Rise up! Resist! Rebel! Revolt! Headbutt the executioner. Live Free…Die Well! May the chains of the useless idiots rest lightly upon themselves.  🇸🇴 

AZRobert

Up Armored Walkers and Rocket propelled Wheelchairs and I’m in….

Fyrfighter

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Skivvy Stacker

Add a couple of chain guns and you’ve got R2-FUKU

Berliner

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11B-Mailclerk

Marxism = AIDS for Civilization

Poetrooper

Very pithy, Mail… 🤔 

Anonymous

We’ll be a nation of serfs who live on the property of our Mandarin-speaking “woke” elites who drive around in electric cars (golf carts, daintily supplied by “green” wind and solar energy) made in China and demand we worship their moral superiority for kissing Chicom ass like the NBA does.

Drill, Baby! Drill! Oil and internal combustion for freedom!

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Roh-Dog

That article is def worth a read, and then a reread.

Brava, Ex!

Roh-Dog

I hope so too. There is a fear, or anger, or blindness in the hearts of Man which concerns me. we’ve turned our backs on so many ways that worked, without a real destination. A 40 years is a long time to wander, did we ever get a start-date? Will Israel ever come to us?

That enduring moral right is lost to quick technical correctness or malattribution of guilt, both on the interpersonal and macro scale. The rejections of workable systems got us here, but at what cost?

We’ve bent this thing so far ov’r, break or whip back and forth, things’ll change.

Wireman611

I read a sci-fi novel a bunch of years ago called “Fallen Angels”, by Spider Robinson. The premise was that we are on the cusp of the next ice age. Looking at the charts available, we are. so the only solution to postpone the big freeze is to drill baby drill.