“Send in your Marines”
The other day, US Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan tried to influence support for a measure that would allow the Organization of American States to intervene in the crisis consuming Venezuela which has cost the lives of 74 Venezuelans in the past few months, according to AFP. The representative of the Maduro government responded to the assemblage and the US proposal;
“The ‘contact group’ you’re proposing is completely useless and unnecessary,” Venezuelan Foreign Minister Delcy Rodriguez fumed at a meeting of the Organization of American States (OAS) in Cancun, Mexico.
“The only way you could impose it would be to send in your Marines — who would meet with a crushing response from Venezuela if they dared make such a misstep.”
I don’t think that Americans would be receptive to such a proposal to send troops to Venezuela, Marines or otherwise. The response from Ms. Rodriguez is just whistling past the graveyard. The Maduro government is perfectly happy to let more Venezuelans die either from murder or starvation to maintain their grip on Venezuela and to force Communism down the throats of the people there and line their own pockets. An American military response would just be playing to hopes that he can blame the crisis there on American imperialism.
Category: Politics
This would be yet another war for oil, unless a Democrat was in the hot seat, then it is a humanitarian crisis. This one would not involve suicide bombers and the supply chain would be across the Gulf of Mexico and the Carribeian sea. Who could oppose us, everyone in the way is having their own issues.
I am not saying it’s a good idea, but it’s better than sitting on our hands/laurels and pretending we care. We have interfered with other sovereign nations over smaller shenanigans.
Most of those interferences have blown up in our faces dramatically.
No thanks, Pass on Uniting Commie’s to fight the invading Gringo.
The vast majority of our oil comes to us from the Western Hemisphere, mainly from Mexico, Canada, United States, the Caribbean, and even from Venezuela. The idea that we get most of our oil from the Middle East is a myth, which makes the idea that the Iraq War “was about oil” even more of a myth.
From a business administration standpoint, it makes more economic sense to pipe the oil in rather than to ship it in. Oil-producing regions, in the Western Hemisphere, are in perfect position to meet that. Had this been about oil, we would have invaded Venezuela instead of Iraq. In addition to the oil, Venezuela met many of the conditions that would require US intervention that were in place for decades.
The asymmetric strategic threats that we faced required us to intervene in the Middle East instead.
I’m good on the whole “invading other countries where everyone hates us already” meme. Let OAS do it. We can send a few boatloads of MRE’s and threaten to feed them to people if they don’t straighten up.
Ah, no. The Marines and/or Army would run thru any resistance like you know what goes thru a goose…but who needs that headache.
While its sad to see people suffer, they are showing the rest of the world a wonderful example of socialism and all the maladies that come with it.
This.
We need the example, since people appear to have forgotten about Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union.
And the Venezuelans voted for it, so let them fix it.
Exactly. They got what they voted for.
Let the banana republics cleanup the mess
If we fought “old school” for Victory as quickly as we coudl arrange, then we could deal with the various assholes of the world one at a time.
Since this “limited war” bullshit became a full blown infection of stupid, we never finish a fight anymore, just keep feeding lives into a grinder, hoping the other guy’s arm gets tired of cranking.
If the war is -just-, then -smash- the other bastard. Beat him untill he begs or until he cant beg anymore.
There is neither justice nor mercy in an unending war of half-way goals and “restraint”, least of all to our military folks.
+1
What’s that saying – go big or go home?
I hurt for my childhood friends and their children in Venezuela.
No. I think we need to let the people who don’t support Maduro drag him into the streets and pound him into a pulp.
He seems hell-bent on ruining what used to be a thriving country, to no purpose other than feeding his useless ego. Let him rot.
Yeah, what they need is a revolution, but their people don’t seem motivated enough to go for one. If they won’t, why should we?
Have you checked today? The military shot protesters, killing one, during a protest in Caracas.
Motivated? Yes they are. They are, however, unarmed. Venezuelans have not had their right to keep and bear arms recognized in decades – if ever.
I do not at this point advocate U.S. interference, but don’t go victim blaming the Venezuelan populace.
I am sorry but I absolutely blame the Venezuelan people for voting for Chaves.
Venezuela was already heading for socialism long before Chaves, and then people voted to double down on stupid. It is their problem.
While I personally would love a deployment to Venezuela, i have to think like an adult here and look at the big picture.
The military has been shooting protesters for several weeks now. Unless they are mobbed by those who do not support Chavez, it will continue until people get desperate enough to somehow cross the borders into Guiana and other countries.
I believe they are going to Colombia if possible.
Not our circus, not our monkeys. PASS.
Please remember they asked for this. Chavez came to power with the support of the “people” in 1998 because he promised free shit and the pipe dream of a socialist utopia. They believed his stupid ass. Maduro is just carrying on Chavez’s “dream”.
nd Jimmy Carter blessed it.
They were deceived into this. They did not “ask” for this.
The education system in Venezuela – such as it was – is about on the par with inner-city Chicago. The people were deceived, and now are victims of the deception.
Then let that be a lesson to the next nation that starts thinking socialism/communism sounds like a good idea. They all sound the same at first, then they all act the same once the shine wears off and people realize that their wealth got redistributed into the pockets of the party leadership and fuck the proletariat.
https://youtu.be/MqkT4B-9MGk
Some folks learn from instruction.
Some folks learn from observation.
Some folks have to pee on the electric fence themselves to understand.
If they were “deceived” by the usual promises of something for nothing, or “don’t worry, the other guy will pay”, they still earned what they have gotten.
Absolutely.
They ate with pleasure the class warfare doctrine, and all was fine as long as there was petro-dollars.
Now that others people’s money ran out, they want us to free them from the socialist scum?
Hell no.
Yep everybody was a fan of Hugo when oil was $100/barrel and he was nationalizing all the evil Yankee business.
Now that they’ve run out of OPM, they’re anti-Maduro.
Kind of like the millions of French who joined the Resistance in late 1944….
Great analogy.
Maduro is going to get socialism/communism “right” this time… he’s learned from the “mistakes” of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc. He’s got some good advice from his yanqui admirers like Sean Penn, Danny Glover, etc.
Venezuela – another “socialist paradise” that will have cost countless lives when it’s finally overthrown.
SOMEBODY correct me if I’m wrong, but in the recent past few years, didn’t Bernie Sanders OPENLY praise the current Socialist/COMMIE Government system of Venezuela?
You are not wrong.
And Brother Bernie is strangely silent on the current state of affairs.
I’m sure Sean Penn could solve this problem with little effort. He should go.
And stay there.
Can we send Bernie and his Hollywood cronies, too? Please?
One-way tickets.
time to draft Dennis Rodman to the ambassadorial staff. enough with fookin’ around.
Phuck em then.
If the argument is against intervening then what is the rational for what we are doing in Syria? Other than protecting Obamas muzzy terrorist friends that is
Good question. Assad has never been a nice guy, but Syria was stable.
Syria was stable and Assad hammered the terrorists. So did Gaddafi after he saw the light and got rid of his WMD’s. Neither are/were good guys but they kept those jihadi fucks under control. Now, who was it that turned the whole region into a raging shitstorm?????
Some stupid Nobel Peace Prize Whiner, I believe.
And he did it with the advice of the smartest Secretary of State evah.
The Marines are probably busy eating. Maybe some other time.
And to think this is the model economy that our left loves
So if folks there are tired of the BS of Socialism, then we -can- help out.
Arrange to deliver covertly (just plausible deniability, really) a whole bunch of simple 9mm pistols and ammo. Some Spanish-language pamphlets on asymmetric warfare, links to various web sites, etc.
The world needs the example of people getting tired of that crap, and doing to the current socialist thugs what was done to Mussolini.
Might work.
Just out of curiosity, who here (I assume many) can name the John Wayne film in which he and his men are attacked by Chavez’s “revolutionaries”?
Hellfire.
Hellfighters, my apologies for the typo.
Actually, we could sell Illinois to them if they promise to STFU.
I say we just give them Chicago. The rest of the state is not that bad.