Senate Democrats Want Retribution for the Election

| December 8, 2014

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So, I guess the Senate Democrats, on their way out of control of Congress, want to leave their mark on history by releasing the details of the “enhanced interrogation techniques” used in the early days of the war against terror, despite recommendations of even the presidential administration. From Fox News;

Tensions grew Sunday over the impending release of a Senate report examining the alleged use of torture by the CIA, with a top House lawmaker saying that the release will cause “violence and deaths” abroad.

The comments by Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, came after Secretary of State John Kerry on Friday urged Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., the senator in charge of the report on CIA interrogations, to reconsider the timing of the release. Obama administration officials said they still support making the report public.

Rogers is regularly briefed on intelligence assessments. He told CNN’s “State of the Union” that U.S. intelligence agencies and foreign governments have said privately that the release of the report on CIA interrogations a decade ago will be used by extremists to incite violence that is likely to cost lives.

“I think this is a terrible idea,” Rogers said. “Our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths…Foreign leaders have approached the government and said, ‘You do this, this will cause violence and deaths.’ Our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths.”

Of course, unless the report says that we beheaded detainees (and I’m 100% positive that it doesn’t) I don’t see what’s to get the “world” upset. We already know that torture these days includes heinous behavior like keeping someone awake for a few days, playing loud, crappy music from 80’s Hair Bands, and washing a subject’s face with a wet wash cloth. We don’t cause real pain, just discomfort, but because of our own personal guilt trips, we’ve armed the enemy with propaganda. Would you rather spend five years at Guantanamo or five years living like Bowe Bergdahl? With the threat of the fate of Daniel Pearl every day?

The worst thing that has happened to any of our detainees is that a really ugly chick from West Virginia pointed at their genitalia. And she was punished for it.

Our only real crime was allowing stank-ass hippies to define what is terror. And now Senate Democrats are holding us hostage by threatening to release the information on their way out the door. Go ahead and release it, Feinstein, I don’t give a rat’s ass. It’s just like the valor thieves who threaten to release my military records – do it. Get it over with. It’s just another wet firecracker, anyway.

And that stupid excuse “we’re better than they are” is wearing thin. How’s that working out for us?

But the bottom line is that this administration thinks that terrorists will attack Americans worldwide if these reports are released, and the Senate Democrats just don’t care who gets killed as a result. Because their side paid a price for bad policy.

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ChipNASA

Don’t let the doorknob hit you in the *ass* on the way out.

2/17 Air Cav

“…despite recommendations of even the presidential administration.” Just so there is no misunderstanding. The Golfer in Mom Jeans supports the release of the report. The only hedge on that is that John ‘Jungle Stroll w/ Cameraman” Kerry is concerned about the timing of the release–whatever the hell that means.

MustangCryppie

“The only hedge on that is that John ‘Jungle Stroll w/ Cameraman” Kerry is concerned about the timing of the release–whatever the hell that means.”

Ole Boltneck is just following the time tested diplomatic technique of saying nice doggie while rooting around for a big stick. He wants to delay while he thinks up a reason for not releasing the report that the Dems accept. Good luck with that!

Ex-PH2

‘You do this, this will cause violence and deaths.’ Um, didn’t they forget that anticipatory word ‘more’.

Some place, in some dusty storage box, I have a floppy disc with a transcript of Lurch’s trip back to Vietnam, where he visits an old airbase, which is rusting away, and says ‘I remember this’. I thought that asshole was a river rat. When did he stand duty at an airbase. I have to dig that up, for your reading pleasure.

The Other Whitey

My father-in-law was in the Cambodian Army (on our side) as a teenager during the unpleasantness in the former French Indochina. I don’t recall if I’ve mentioned it or not, but one time he was at our house when Kerry’s “Christmas in Cambodia” horseshit came up on TV.

My father-in-law did not beat around the bush in calling Lurch a fucking liar in English and Khmer. His punch line was, “I know he’s lying because I was stationed on that river at the Vietnamese border at that time, and there weren’t any American boats on our side of it at that point. He’s a liar.”

Did I mention that, having fought the commies, survived the nightmare that was the Khmer Rouge, and escaped from their version of the Holocaust, and moved his family to America, that he’s a staunch Republican?

StillServing

Wow! Your father-in-law is hardcore! Give him my best wishes. America wa sbuilt by people like him and now we’ve morphed into a nation of self-entitlement.

The Other Whitey

I’ve often wished that when somebody bemoans “torture,” that they would show them a day or two of interrogation and tell them, “See this? This is not torture.”

Then fly them to such fabulous bastions of civil rights as Pakistan, Red China, or Egypt and have them sit in while the authorities spend a little “quality time” with a prisoner, then say, “Okay, see this? THIS is torture. Notice the difference? Good. Now shut the fuck up about it.”

2/17 Air Cav

It’s all relative. Imagine that you were captured and were strapped to a chair, immobile. Then, imagine that the room you were in suddenly went dark. Now, imagine you hear the opening strains of Joan Baez singing Kumbaya and then, on the walls to your front and to either side were flashing images of Jane Fonda. Now, tell me you wouldn’t think that to be inhumane.

GDContractor

What you are describing is top secret methodology of The First Earth Battalion. Opsec! Bleat.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

And that stupid excuse “we’re better than they are” is wearing thin. How’s that working out for us? Exactly, being better how? Because beheading is more barbaric than an anonymous drone strike that kills a man and his whole family? There is no “better” or worse in an armed conflict, there are only those who will win by living and dominating, and those who lose by dying and submitting. Pretending that all of us on this planet are the same with the same desires and hopes and dreams is a ridiculous notion that has never been proven to be true and exists only in the minds of starry eyed dreamers who think a couple of choruses of “Kumbaya, my lord” will somehow bring everyone to the table with dignity and equality for all. Those who wish to see us dead for being the great satan’s infidel army have no desire to negotiate with us in good faith and honor the treatment of those who’ve had the misfortune to fall into enemy hands under the terms of the Geneva convention. Perhaps some of these stank ass hippie douche nozzles should actually read the Geneva convention to determine what the term “Protected Persons” actually means as the Geneva conventions are fairly clear on the concept that non-signatory combatants and the inhabitants of the nations of non-signatory combatants are not under the protections of those conventions. We can be “better” when we are done killing these people en masse. During WW2 we had no qualms about killing the civilians of our enemies, in wholesale numbers with napalm and a fiery horrific death. We reduced Japanese cities to rubble long before we dropped the two bombs that ended the war, in fact those two cities were chosen because they were among the very few cities left standing in the whole of Japan where a single bomb would demonstrate the deadly nature of our intent. The biggest mistake of the Bush/Cheney conflict in the middle east was the lack of foresight on the nature of the enemy and asking to declare war on a non-government… Read more »

Sparks

Veritas Omnia Vincit…Thank you sir. Well said and written and I agree with you 110%.

crewchief guy

Hear! Hear!

Brat

“When we fail to understand the mind of our enemy we fail to understand the required actions to resolve that issue. […] Let them know we intend to do these things as a means to display our strength of will.”

All well said, except I am not convinced that Obama *fails* to understand. How CAN he fail to understand? I don’t claim to be the smartest anybody in the room, but after all that these terrorists/murderers have done, if Obama truly fails to understand, it is because he CHOOSES not to understand. And that makes him truly dangerous to the safety of us all. (And of course, unfit to be POTUS.

Sparks

“But the bottom line is that this administration thinks that terrorists will attack Americans worldwide if these reports are released, and the Senate Democrats just don’t care who gets killed as a result. Because their side paid a price for bad policy.”

The “Administration” you say. You mean the one led by Obama. Obama who holds his powerful, all accomplishing Executive Order Pen over the heads of every one else. So, if the “Administration” thinks this is a bad idea, why not bring out that, always full of ink “pen” and order these records sealed?

However, from the article, “Obama administration officials said they still support making the report public.” Of course they do. It is the only show of shame and regret Obama has ever shown and he’s going to offer it to his loser, headed out the door, cronies as his “shake hands and promise never to write” apology, for HIS lack of leadership and ass hatery which cost them their seats. The fact it could and very well may cause grave harm and more deaths to Americans at home and abroad, so what, in his mind. He has fences to mend for the DNC in 2016 and if more Americans die as a result, again in his mind and those of the exiting Democrats, they could give two shits. They haven’t yet as they watched Americans die, why would they now that they are butt hurt and looking for a job. After all, they’ll get their pensions, great health care and be able to afford private security if they want it. Since they’ve never given two good damns about America or its citizens before, so they never, ever will.

Pinto Nag

You didn’t really think the dems were going to go quietly, did you?

I personally don’t think they intend to go at all, but I’m waiting to get really paranoid until after the 2016 elections.

If there are any.

11B-Mailclerk

For the hoped-for next sane administration, I nominate LTC (ret) Tom Kratman as Secretary of War.

GDContractor

I second. LTC Kratman, the anti-Bateman.

Hayabusa

What really pisses me off is that, back in the 2001-2002 timeframe, Feinstein, Rockefeller, and the rest of these Democrats were the ones demanding that CIA, FBI, the military and other agencies “get tough” on the terrorists and do “whatever it takes” to prevent another attack like 9/11. These assholes were on the Intel Committee, and were briefed in real time on what was being done. But, now that the political winds have shifted, they claim ignorance, and release a report that does nothing but pick off old scabs, merely so they can preen in their moral “superiority”.

It is impossible to adequately convey the depth of my contempt for these people.

Blaster

Where is Viet-Nam War Protester? he would have some enlightening comments on this topic.

2/17 Air Cav

I’m guessing that his body hasn’t been found yet b/c everything smells normal to the neighbors.

blaster

It may take a while for the smell to escape his moms basement.

Ex-PH2

Here’s a news service article on the same thing. Don’t know if it offers much more than the Fox report.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-bases-embassies-prepare-for-violence-with-release-of-senate-torture-report/ar-BBgvTHk

Aside from the petty revenge angle, which is typical behavior for sore losers and spoiled brats, what is the point of this, other than to put AD military in the US and overseas in more danger?

That won’t gain any favor points with anyone who has an ounce of common sense. But I guess it hasn’t occurred to the polisci dribblebrains like DiFi (may she piss off her hairgay).

I do not recall any outrage emanating from the mouths of these asswipe tax vacuums in Foggy Bottom over the rampage and slaughter of innocents by ISIL/IS during the last few months, or complaints about , or their gruesome displays of how they kill their prisoners.

But then, there’s no classified stuff to use as weapons against your political opponent in that, is there? No.