Karzai demands no airstrikes on homes. Period.
Earlier this week, the Obama Administration attempted to mollify the Karzai government with an announcement that it would only authorize limited drone strikes in Afghan neighborhoods in the wake of an airstrike in support of troops raiding a Taliban target’s home which supposedly killed 18 civilians.
Well, according to the Associated Press, despite the fact that they had agreed to the limited airstrikes, the Karzai government is now demanding an end to drone strikes targeting homes;
Afghan President Hamid Karzai took a defiant stand on Tuesday against NATO on airstrikes, saying the military coalition can no longer fire on homes from aircraft in any circumstance – even in defense of Afghan and foreign forces.
My response would be an immediate withdrawal of all US forces in Afghanistan along with confiscating every piece of equipment that was made in the US right down to their first aid pouches. The response from the Taliban will be the immediate occupation of every home they need to avoid drone strikes.
“Even when they are under attack, they cannot use an airplane to bomb Afghan homes – even when they are under attack,” he said to underscore his point.
Karzai said that at a meeting after the incident in Logar province, he asked U.S. Marine Gen. John Allen, the top commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan: “Do you do this in the United States? There is police action every day in the United States. … They don’t call in airplanes to bomb the place.”
Nice try, Hamid. Normally, Americans aren’t setting off bombs in our public market spaces and throwing acid on our school girls, either. Nor do we attack and kidnap our police or bomb barracks.
Yeah, that should be the last straw. Karzai won’t let us apply our advantages to the battlefield, so we ought to remove all the advantages he has to remain in power in Afghanistan and come home. The we can just stand off and launch drones all day and night on the resulting Taliban government. And, oh, shoot down Karzai when he attempts to flee the morass he’s created.
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Karzai is one the biggest pieces of shit of the 21st century. In fact, he won Douche of the Week in my book for this stunt (pretty sad fact seeing as its only tuesday today)
Karzai should never be allowed to leave the country – he needs to experience the fate to which he is dooming “his” people. (I’m thinking something like encasing his feet in concrete so he can wait for the Taliban in style). The current leadership in BOTH the US and Afghanistan is failing and has lost control of the mission.
Before we leave I want someone to take his fruity little hat
The last drone authorized needs to go right through his flee-infested front door.
Just make sure he’s standing behind it when it hits.
Well, we could:
1 – Take off, nuke the place from orbit (Hudson in “Aliens”)
2 – Make him walk patrol with our guys, but he doesn’t get to have a gun
3 – Collect our stuff and go home
I agree that we should leave now. Getting out is our stated mission now anyway, and it’s clear that Karzai is ready to hand the keys over to the Taliban as soon as we’re gone, so what are we waiting for? Everything we paid for should either go with us or be rendered unserviceable; roads, bridges, other infrastructure, utilities…. All of it.
Define “home”…
Shut her down boys, Shes sucking mud!! Bring em home! And bring all of our play things with us.
I see I made a @!#!# goof — it was Hicks who said that, not Hudson. Bill Paxton did such a shining job of playing a chicken-heart, it was memorable.
JP — Home is where the heart is.
Pack up and bring our people (and our money) home.
We put Karzai in, let’s take him out. What’s the point of having a puppet if he won’t dance to our tune?
#5 I’m still a big fan of this encasing his feet in cement and taking all our equipment and aid and getting the hell out lol
Worst feeling in the world, standing in Afghan dirt, with your brothers, a world of access with one push of a button on a radio pack behind you, and being told “no” by a man, who is enjoying a steaming cup of good coffee, dozen miles away…the most effective field grade officer, has done more damage to the US military, than the least effective enemy commander. . .
Guys on the ground can win, but we want to do it with hearts, not logic. Idiots all, decisions made by cowards, thinking done by fools…had us wishing it was Roman times again, where a good dash of hemlock or a good ole shower stabbing was the norm. . . good luck, I pray, we can salvage as many US lives as possible prior to the end of our dismal affair with our non-affectionate mistress Afghanistan.
meant… they wouldnt let us. Now not all were bad, but over the years we saw the trends, super optimistic, yet mediocre Capt’s, coming back fresh from Command and Staff as Major’s, with Patton’s ghost hanging over their shoulder, all bravado, no balls, Bronze stars for everyone! Power Point, demanding answers, limited time in the field, pulling patrols to avoid a fight, patrolling in certain areas for photo ops, happy snaps with the local kids to send back to the kids back home, dad’s a hero, guys hate him, he knows it, pretends not to know, doesnt bother him, he gets a bronze star…throw a V on it… guys hate him now, doesnt care, picking up LtCol, above zone, gets to run 6 miles every day on the treadmill, hates our beards, secretly jealous, we know that too, yells at us for torn uniforms, starts fucking with the linguists, assigns one to himself, never leaves the wire, hurts the team, we call a few friends back home, calls come back over, bigger fish, big fish fly’s in, has man talk with Major Marathon Dual Degree Movie Star, yea, been through schools, never led a team…Big fish leaves, Major improves, but only for a week or two, more things happen, the power converters in our berthing is fucked up, help, we need you to fix it, we’re out, come back, tired, power converter flares, there are deaths, big fish comes back, Major becomes a ghost, cunt, we turn our backs on him as he leaves literally. . . rinse, wash, repeat.
I’m all for it so long as Karzai and his cronies personally clear those houses.
“My response would be an immediate withdrawal of all US forces in Afghanistan “. Just yesterday you were railing against Obama for planning a staged withdrawl. Now you want to pull out tout de suite. Sounds like you’re having a petulant little snit. If yesterday it was so absolutely crucial that we stay, Hamid Karzai being a douchebag shouldn’t cause a strategic u-turn just like that.
Yeah, you’ve been reading all along, haven’t you, Joe? The planned withdrawal is the reason I’ve been calling for an immediate withdrawal for about three years.
they can launch drone attacks on the ground outside the houses. They should target the ground 2m from the doors of the houses.
Meanwhile, back in America, Karzai’s power over the American forces keeping him alive is being billed as a Foreign Policy Success Story, just like the reset button episode, and the every smackdown of Israel.
Hillary Clinton is getting the credit.
The last American to fight so hard for the other side was Benedict Arnold. And he won at Saratoga.
comrade obama needs to grow a pair and tell that stupid looking hat wearing asshat to sit down and STFU or lead a team of his own goat-f*ckers to go clear the houses in question. Otherwise it’s time to bring our boys and girls home with all their toys right down to the last P-38…ooops, they don’t have those anymore!?:)
I’m all for Jonn’s plan with the addition of (a) not one thin dime more in aid and (b) seizing his and his brother’s assets in US banks.
The beauty of this is we won’t need Pakistan anymore so their aid gets cut off too. Open season on both hellholes.
Karzai has forgotten the lesson of Najibullah.
Take Karzai on a helicopper ride and drop him off at the A-stan, P-stan border. Then make an announcement in the local dialect of who is there.
I still think we should take his stupid hat, regardless of the time tables
Heralder: I know it isn’t the same, but his hat always makes me think of Shriners and then I imagine him getting out of one of the little clown cars followed by a dozen or so other Afghans in flowing robes.
P-38’s aren’t completely gone YAT-YAS, the Aussies still have C-like rations that come with a P-38, it’s a bit more advanced and has an integrated spoon looking device. They also come with vegemite, which actually isn’t that bad.
I do not ever want to be labeled as a “Veteran against the War in Afghanistan”…I supported the war, but now that we are not fighting a war anymore, (quitting a war?) I am all about us pulling out and getting back home.
What a joke, is there any credibility in the Afghan leadership at all?
@25 Redacted, are you serious? That is too forkin’ cool! My Marine Corps nephew carries one because his dad gave him his! My brother had his from the early ’70s like I have mine from the mid ’70s. Like I tell my nephew, “That’s why your dad and I are ‘Old Corps’ and you’re New Corps!”
YATYAS, Search Google images for FRED can opener.
Dear Hamid –
With all due respect, go back to sniffing camel shit and humping small boys and let the grown-ups handle your shithole of a country.
Fucktard.
Sincerely,
The US
They used to shoot at us from Mosque’s but God help you if you ever returned fire at a Mosque. What will be next is they can shoot at us from houses but we cannot return fire.
This is another logical step in an obviously ineffective strategy. I’m more frustrated with the leadership’s ignorance of history.
Remember the first time you asked why you had to take a history class, and some teacher told you that it was important to learn so our mistakes wouldn’t be repeated?
Let’s ignore, for a moment, the mountain of documentation on every previous occupation of Afghanistan. What is the general consensus on the fate of stagnant armies?
This is willful ignorance and worse, it’s showing the world a weak stomach. Since when is war fair? We’re going to turn our backs on a huge tactical advantage on the say so of a weakling mouthpiece that we propped up?!
So let’s slink back out and roll over to show the international community a yellow belly. I’m sure everyone will tremble before our vaunted diplomacy.
I could puke. If we’re leaving in any case, why not do it from a position of power?
Yat-Yas? You’re talking the P-38 can opener, right? I was just in a local sporting goods store, and they had a whole box of brand new shiny ones. A few cents apiece.
You don’t need them for MRE’s, but other forms of emergency rations do come in cans, so the P-38 isn’t dead, not by a long stretch!