Thursday gun notes
Coupla minor things today.
First off – People say the Trump administration is pro-gun. Well, maybe by comparison with Biden’s, but that’s like saying you’ll stay dryer outdoors in a tropical storm than you will by jumping in a pond. A few degrees of separation, maybe. AG Bondi supported red-flag laws and assault weapons laws when she was in Florida, and you notice that her demand that BATFE supply a list all the 2nd-ingringing regulation changes has drawn… nothing. Bump stock ban? Trump signed it, and back before he was running as a politician, as a private citizen was a Democrat supporting assault weapon ban advocate. Not saying he might not perform for us… but not betting the farm on it, either. Guns are low on his priority list.
Latest – the Department of Justice is making sure pot is still a disqualifying item on the form 4473.
The government’s lawyers want the Supreme Court to make clear that regular pot smokers – and other drug users ? shouldn’t be allowed to own firearms.
An appeals court has said a federal law making it a crime for drug users to have a gun can’t be used against someone based solely on their past drug use.
The case in question comes from the 5th Circuit, a relatively conservative court, who ruled that a drug user could not be excluded from firearms use unless he was actually under the influence at the time.
While history and tradition support “some limits on a presently intoxicated person’s right to carry a weapon,” the appeals court said, “they do not support disarming a sober person based solely on past substance usage.” USA Today
Factoid – the article says that the drug use question on the 4473 has stopped more gun purchases than any other.
So if you are a weed indulger… don’t expect that particular gun law to ease up. You can legally have the pot or the gun – not both.
But out West, the 10th Circuit has stepped up and slapped New Mexico. As folks know, New Mexico is dominated by a few blue cities despite most of the state running solidly red – a not uncommon situation. So they passed a 7 day “waiting period” law.
New Mexico’s law requires purchasers of firearms to “cool off” for seven days before taking possession of a newly purchased firearm — even after passing a background check and demonstrating that they are not prohibited from owning firearms.
The Tenth Circuit held that New Mexico’s law violates the Second Amendment. Judge Tymkovich, writing for the court, determined that the right to keep and bear arms necessarily includes the lawful acquisition of firearms. Therefore, “cooling off” waiting periods infringe on Second Amendment-protected conduct. Next, the court concluded that waiting periods are a modern invention that are unsupported by our nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation. BFA
Blue pols in NM are upset… but I’d say the 10th got it right.
And in closing, guess who says they are going to teach gun safety courses? Gonna love this: Michael Bloomberg’s Everytown For Gun Safety.
Everytown is the same group that wants to ban guns, require firearm registries, permits to purchase a firearm, prohibit young adults from legally purchasing a firearm, enact waiting periods to take possession of legally purchased firearms, keep guns under constant lock-and-key, restrict their use to designated areas and slap exorbitant taxes and fees just to purchase one.
“Train Smart” is rolling out several segmented lessons, including “The Smart Guide to Buying a Gun,” which features a one-hour course for prospective gun buyers who “want the facts about gun ownership without a sales pitch.” Everytown will teach those gun buyers about why people own guns, facts surrounding gun ownership, secure storage, protecting a home, “universal” guns safety rule and what to look for in a gun.BFA II
Without a sales pitch – didn’t know you were being pressured to buy those gunz, huh? Slick Marvin the Used Car Hustler working at your local store? Luckily the gun ban folks can teach you all about guns, better than even the NRA. This is a good one to read the original article.
Looking at the included pic – looks like they have no idea of who needs a background check and 4473… a great start.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists, Guns
Clearly the gun on the left is an AK47 which is banned in many states and requires federal permission and a background investigation to own while the gun on the right is a double barrel shot gun that when fired into the darkness from your back porch will scare off any bad guy. You can buy those at Walmart without a background check. I’m pretty sure that is the book answer from ETFGS.
Did I get it right?
But it doesn’t have the thing in the back that goes up and a 50 magazine clip…
Pot smoking? Really? Wow.
Ah, so you are in favor of people running around high with guns?
Lest you think alcohol is ok; before my state went to constitutional carry the sheriff couldn’t issue you a permit if you were a known drunkard. The general rule was if you had three or more fairly recent arrests for either DUI or PI he wouldn’t issue a permit.
I kinda get the sheriff’s intent, but I think he was on some seriously shaky legal ground.
It was actually codified state law.
The sheriff was (and still is if you want one) the issuing authority for a permit. It was about about as shaky as the Circum-Pacific Belt. There were a number of lawsuits on civil rights grounds. It was a carry over from the Jim Crow era when Democrats ran the state and were violating the civil rights of black people. If you were a drunk and you were white you could still get a permit if you were a good old boy.
They got rid of it altogether when they went constitutional carry, which ended all the lawsuits.
That’s kinda how I figured it worked.
Florida 1988-2000s prohibited DUI-convicted from obtaining a CWL, on the basis of active substance abuse.
Most pot smokers are sitting on the couch.
Its booze and hard drugs that are the problem.
Not really. Most drinkers are also sitting on the couch too. But boozing has gone way down in popularity since weed became more accessible. Only 54% of Americans drink alcohol at all now. About one 1/6 (16-17%) of the population now regularly consumes marijuana. They are out on the roads running into stuff just as though they were drunk. They fall asleep a lot behind the wheel too.
The thing is there is no way to reliably check how much THC a person has consumed or what their actual intoxication level is, so they get charged considerably less often in wrecks that are not fatalities. The police simply don’t have time to get warrants and process them for every traffic accident out there. When someone is drunk there are fairly easy ways of checking the alcohol content of the blood. Alcohol has very predictable effects at certain levels so it is easy to see how drunk someone is.
Just smoking weed doesn’t mean someone won’t try to eat somebody’s face off either when high. Weed has odd and unpredictable effects on the body that can vary widely from person to person.
Weed is often combined with other drugs too. Combining weed with other drugs really makes for a dire gamble. Weed and meth together for example is an especially poor combination and makes the subject have corrupted thinking, high energy levels, anxious, paranoid with impaired motor skills and coordination. Weed and high amounts of alcohol and/or opiates will put them to sleep, possibly forever. Weed and Xanax is the most fun the subject will ever have. When they wake up the next morning in jail they won’t remember any of it.
Interesting statistics and I would agree with combining the two. But you have made some broad generalizations about pot.
Aside. Also, out here in the Great NW, they check for THC on the road – much like a DUI.
But by your argument, anyone who smokes pot should not have a firearm? Or must they have a charge / conviction to not get one?
Curious as to how your argument would hold up with out red-blooded American good old boy brothers south of the Mason-Dixon line.
Curious as to what methods they use to check “THC LEVEL” on the road. Swabs can tell if someone if someone has smoked THC, but not how intoxicated they are. Worthless for edibles. ARIDE certified and other DREs can determine if a person is impaired but still doesn’t check THC LEVEL. ARIDE certification takes a week, requires travel and most departments simply don’t have the resources for that. Very large departments may send a few.
A blood test is definitive but most states require a warrant and a qualified person to do a blood draw and then the test. In any case, as I already stated, THC levels don’t always indicate level of impairment.
Personally I don’t care if somebody wants to get goofy in the privacy of their own home; but after my brother died crossing the center line and running head on into an F250 after smoking some weed at the ancient age of 35, you are going to have to try a lot harder to convince me how harmless it is. If you haven’t guessed, you won’t be able to, because it isn’t harmless.
Missing the point.
I get the bias.
But I guess this based upon your own experience using the drug?
Not picking a fight.
And sorry about your loss.
But you are painting very broad strokes.
As long as smoking pot is a federal offense, anyone who smokes pot cannot legally purchase a firearm. You gotta play by the feds rules to pass the feds background check. Don’t like the rule? They don’t care.
No argument.
Conviction involved?
The shit they sell today as “pot” has nothing in common with 60s pot but approximately color and shape.
It’s been genmodded into franken-dope. Some poor slob might buy ditchweed in a rip, but the cultivated stuff isn’t remotely the 60s buzz bud.
Weed today is a Hell of a lot different than the Mexican Agriculture we grew up with.
The old stuff would get you high, made me paranoid and give you the munchies at which point you would take a nap…
Today, they lace the Sinsemilla with fentanyl or it just has so much THC in it that there really isn’t a lot more to do than just turn into a vegetable.
You used to be able to get white crosses without leaving your house, now you take methamphetamine and you end up like Jessie from Breaking Bad.
So a lot has changed, and not for the better.
Fentanyl can kill if a minor amount is inhaled.
Thank you Chicoms and all the US politicians that sent all of our manufacturing base over there…
Chicoms make most of our pharmaceuticals now.
WTAF ???
Pot fumes, just being nearby enough of that shit, give me a migraine. The stuff in the 70s was unpleasant. Today’s shit is debilitating. Would rather be pepper sprayed.
Well, you know…
It’s still illegal under federal law.
Yep, it’ll get your Commercial Driver’s License taken away if you come up hot on a random UA.
I’m sure they checked the Sikh in Florida who tried to pull a U turn with an 80 ft vehicle. If he came up hot, its not being reported by any of the MSM.
He would have likely have been charged with DUI during his arrest if they thought he was high. But what fuqing idiot does a U-Turn on an interstate in a maintenance turn about with an 80′ vehicle? It explains a lot of the crash videos I see from India.
I doubt he will see more than 10 years and a deportation but he deserves more for all the ruin and devastation he caused.
The families need to sue him, the trucking company, and the state of California. Add Newsome onto the list too.
The trucking company’s insurer, assuming it has one, will be the one paying any judgment or settlement. The Sikh has little or no assets; he will soon be earning about 10 cents per hour in his Florida prison job.
Agreed. But you have to tag everyone involved in a suit.
Well yes, he will be sued. Most PI attorneys sue everyone even remotely connected to a traffic collision. I have likely handled over a hundred of them over my 36 years of lawering.
Near the end of the article, the ins co provides no insurance outside the state of California
It is apparently a very shady company with many violations. Where the van struck the trailer was in the area of the landing gear, a pretty well fortified for strength area. 2 4″x4″ legs with 6″x6″, maybe 8″x8″ feet doing their part to support whatever weight is on the trailer when not hooked to a truck.
Good luck to the families as this will be tied up in court for years.
Perhaps our non English spaking/reading friends can sit in jail until the end of the investigation/trial and then begin their sentences with no credit given for time served.
https://cbs12.com/news/local/failed-tests-fast-departure-what-weve-learned-about-driver-in-fatal-turnpike-crash-florida-harjinder-singh
and kackling Kamala
He actually deserves 3 terms of 15 to life, to be served consecutively. But, I doubt he’ll get more than a slap on the wrist and a flight back to India.
Sounds a lot like jingle truck drivers in Asscrackistan.
You don’t even have to speak or read english in California to get a CDL.
Just be a non-American, preferably an illegal alien!
As for the sales pitch –
Recently had to take a “refresher course” for the right to exercise my 2nd Amendment Right. The legally proscribed time was added to by nearly an hour because we, as a captive audience were subjected to a time-share style pitch for gun owners’ insurance.
Of the 30 present, not a single person succumbed. At the end of the class, we were given a “satisfaction survey”. Several of us, confirmed by chatter as we exited, said the same sort of things…
It’s insulting enough we have to take this class…
Being told if we leave the room, we will both forfeit the fee and not be issued a “passing grade”…
Having to individually, publicly state “why” we weren’t interested in this great, amazing, limited-time deal only available that day guaranteed we would never use that particular insurance carrier or gun retail store…
Having perhaps the most abrasive, obnoxious, pot-bellied, alky-nosed stereotype of a former cop deliver the sales pitch…
…all contributed to the unanimous decision to pan the class, instructor, retail outlet, insurance program and class content.
So I’ll give them a pass on the “…without a sales pitch” though they probably are not referring to the same thing. Somehow, I’m thinking “Train Smart” would be happier with uninsured gun owners so those who despite the “education” they offer choose to own guns and would then be ruined by a lawsuit.
I am so glad that in my state that piece of paper called a DD214 allowed me to skip all that nonsense. Even though I do not need a CCW, I still carry one. It is nice going into a gun store and walking out 15 minutes later with a nice new pew pew for my safe.
AZ does the DD-214 thing too. I’m not sure I agree with it, because it assumes that every veteran has received some sort of training on handguns. It also assumes that every veteran is well-versed and proficient in gun safety, which we all know is absolutely not true. There’s a reason Army ranges are very strictly controlled and deviation from the rules is not allowed.
My transfer from Germany to the Viet of the Nam
required a two week stay at Ft. Lewis WA for M-16
training. The M-14 was already good from Basic.
Upon arrival in country I was issued a .45 Auto with
no training whatsoever.
Kinda odd that my preffered carry weapon is a
1911A1. I like the slim fit against my ribs and the
simple easy racking to chamber a rnd as it is drawn.
Maine is an open carry state but very rarely do you
see someone sporting a firerarm unless it is hunting
season and they are actively seeking game.
God bless my DD-214.
And everyone said amen.
6th award rifle expert in the USMC I think I know my way around weapons. And yes I am in AZ. Not sure what the army does/did but we qualed yearly and did shotgun quals also. As a Sgt they had me shoot the Berreta but did not qual me since I was not a SSGT at the time and did not rate to carry one. They just familiarized me with it. So I guess your absolutely not true, is absolutely not true.
The only place I ever lived stateside that required training for a pistol permit was Virginia. Virginia however counted military service, even though I had only fired a pistol once up till then as part of my military training. It was in basic training for familiarization fire only, one magazine. Had absolutely nothing to do with carrying a pistol concealed, tactics or self defense.
Later when I became an officer and carried a pistol in addition to my M4, I never received any training on it. The Army pistol qualification fire is pathetically easy, although I have seen a few fail it. They handed the M9 to me and asked if I wanted an NCO to help me with it and I declined.
Later when I became a police officer we had 80 hours of pistol training at the academy and about 10 or more hours a year of additional training, plus six hours for the bi-annual range. Again, there was no training on how to carry concealed although police academies do teach tons on tactics, shootings, self defense, active shooter training and all kinds of stuff; as they should.
At the academy I received no training at all on rifles and shotguns, other than familiarization fire, 1 magazine of rifle at 50 meters and 1 magazine of buckshot plus a few slugs.
When I started policing, my agency was still primarily using shotguns, for 60% of it’s officers, 20% had AR rifles and shotguns, 20% had neither and then a couple of snipers with bolt action rifles as well. The department didn’t provide any long gun training to Army and Marine vets other than to observe that you knew what you were doing.
After crime started taking off in 2019 they acquired rifles for the entire department which was a huge shift and flex. They made everyone take classes, even those of us who had been carrying rifles for years.
Concealed carry courses tend to not teach things they should teach and instead seemed focused on liability and safety. This isn’t an entirely bad thing but they could do a lot better.
When I retired in dec. 2007, I moved to Florida and took the course to get the CCP. Whenever I had to renew, I drove up to Dept of Agriculture in West Palm beach and got the renewal in a couple of minutes and now since Florida dumped the Concealed carry license, one could renew the licence if desired but has to take a refresher course. In the renewals I did, there wasn’t a re fresher course to take. The big problem with me is that a lot people that purchase a hand gun to carry concealed never took any courses on safety and the Laws on the use of deadly force. I carried a handgun for 37 years and every 2 1/2 years had to take the NY State safety course which involved the above and also had to qualify in our indoor range.
People gonna carry. Doesn’t matter permit or not.
Permit just makes you known to be carrying.
For all the hoops, loops, background checks and on and on,
people gonna carry.
When you get old, you are gonna carry. Permit don’t matter.
When you are young you try to comply with all the bullshit
but you get old, you gonna carry no matter what.
This country is going to hell and the only way to feel safe is
to carry. All due respect to the LEO’s and their dangerous job
but people gonna carry and they know it. Permit or not.
LEO’s are fully aware that in the South at least, white men over 60 pretty much universally carry. Those that are prohibited are less likely to carry. It is also pretty unusual for a white man over 60 to kill police officer during say, a traffic stop.
The deep South is pretty much permit free these days. Along with the majority of states in the country.
Notice how closely the yellow “permit required” vs green & (one red) permitless carry match up with the political blue vs red leanings of each state.
I got my first CCW permit in VA 20-something years ago, before I enlisted. The training requirement was an NRA safety course and 50 rounds fired. When I moved to Kentucky, I got a CDWL there. It required 80 hours of training with 50 rounds, but their permit was a concealed deadly weapon license, meaning I could carry anything I could conceal. I recall the instructor telling us we could carry samurai swords or machine guns if they weren’t visible. In Georgia, I could carry concealed without a license, so loing as I had my military ID. Around 2019, I got another VA permit with the training waived due to my military status. Within a few days of retiring to Louisiana, constitutional carry for veterans became law. Last year, they expanded it to include anyone 18 years or old who is able to legally own a firearm. After travelling to Miami a couple of years back, I knew I needed to get a permit still, so I did so: a lifetime CCW permit is free for veterans. I used my DD-214 for the initial period; every five years I need to show proficiency with a weapon. For some reason, my armed security qualification doesn’t count, but I’ll figure out what I need when the time comes.
Politicians are going to politic. Even most “gun-friendly” politicians aren’t. They have to walk that fine line between pandering to 2A supporters and appealing to the masses who aren’t necessarily anti-gun, but who don’t eat, sleep, and breathe gun ownership and carry. When it comes to marijuana usage, that’s just another of the many splits in the gun community. I’ve never even tried the stuff. Alcohol was the only vice I partook in, and boy did I ever. So, while I’m firmly pro-gun, I just don’t care if a pot user is prohibited from buying one. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it doesn’t affect me, so why worry? That very attitude is why we have so many laws infringing on our rights, though.
… Interlude over [had to pick my senior up from school– my car lost power due to overheating, so called out and now waiting till it gets over 100 degrees to go work in the sun] …
When I still drank, I’d be steadfastly against prohibiting an alcohol user from buying guns. The gun community isn’t really a truly closeknit community, however, and we’ve all got our own little hills we’d sit on and watch as our neighbors die on theirs. Eventually, it will be time to defend our own hill, and we’ll be left to our fates. Seriously, how many gun owners claim to be pro-2A, yet stand idly while firearms and accessories are banned. High-capacity magazines? Don’t need ’em to take down a whitetail. Silencers? Who are you, an assassin? Bump stocks? They’re stupid anyway. I’ll never own one, so why should I care if you can’t.
My native state of Virginia is a good example of encroaching gun control. Before it ever became the Bluish Purple (at best) the state is now, they’ve had asinine gun laws. One handgun a month–passed supposedly due to straw purchasers buying handguns and selling them in NYC and other places further north. Shall-issue CCWs–good for five years and requiring a visit to the county courthouse (I submitted my application to the LA State Police online and only had to go in-person for fingerprinting). Of course, concealed carry permit holders are exempt from the one handgun a month law but still have to undergo a background check. VA State Police oversee this, so there’s the state form to fill out in addition to the 4473.
I can procrastinate about fixing my vehicle all day and ramble on for hours about gun laws, but I’ll get off my ass in a few, I guess. Trump, Bondi, you name it, are no more pro-gun than anyone else in power. They’ll talk the talk, and shuffle along acting like they’re walking the walk, and 90% or more of pro-gun people will shout “Hell yeah, MAGA!”. State politicians will play the old Army game of “you can add to, but not take away from” federal law, imposing waiting periods, magazine bans, and so on. Meanwhile, federal politicians will sit in their lofty offices, guarded by Capitol Police, Secret Service, etc., and dictate what we little people are allowed to own and do. As an aside, can Trump even own a gun now? The Left loves to shout about him being a felon, so I suppose not? As for Everytown for Gun Safety, I don’t see why they would be unqualified to teach gun safety courses. But their concept of safety is a lot different from most of ours, I imagine: Treat every gun as if it is loaded – keep your gun secured in a safe, with the magazine separately and ammunition stored in a locked container in another room. Never point a gun at anything you don’t want to destroy – are your possessions and health really worth a criminal’s life? Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire – are you absolutely certain you can hit your target? That target has feelings and a family too. Why are they a target? Your White privilege is showing, David Webb. Be sure of your target and backstop – c’mon, really, you still want to keep Lil’ Raejon from taking your TV, raping your wife, and beating you within an inch of your life? Odds are, you have health and life insurance. He doesn’t. Who’s going to not feed his five kids and avoid paying child support to their six mothers? Donate your gun to the streets, it helps Everytown secure more donations. You’re just as well armed… Read more »
I’m going to go ahead and disagree in a big way. If you can’t tell the difference between say; Gavin Newsom and Trump on guns with all the evidence out there I’ve got nothing new that will convince you.
I was over-generalizing. Maybe a more accurate statement of my opinion would be, “are no more affected by gun laws”.
Trump and his team can come across as “pro-gun” while conceding to compromises that undermine freedoms just a little at a time. Anti-gunners like Newsome are able to unapologetically call for and implement gun control, knowing their constituents have had Flavor Aid baptisms. To paraphrase Rachel Zegler, “It’s politics, baby!”.
None of that matters, though. If Pothead Pedro smokes medical marijuana and is honest on the 4473, he’s not getting a gun. Never mind the fact he lives in a crime-infested neighborhood and has been targeted by a gang. Trump won’t care. Bondi won’t care. Newsome will probably celebrate with some of Diddy’s baby oil. Non-users like me will just shrug and think “oh, well”. Trump, Bondi, and Newsome will still have their security details (armed with weapons you and I could never legally own), I’ll still have my ability to legally carry nearly anywhere I want. Meanwhile, Pedro is facing the reality of having his 2A right to keep and bear arms denied.
Pro-and-anti-gun are subjective terms. They’re also scaled depending on one’s beliefs, with things like the Brady scorecards giving the fringes of each side something to aspire to.
Gun law is an area that the conservatives have been winning big, really huge in the last 25 years. When we started the millennium only a handful of states (3) had constitutional carry. Now 28 do. Gone is the Assault Weapon Ban, and a huge number of other restrictions. Then came the Heller Case and the DC gun ban went poof, Chicago too. I say for gun rights we are in best position since 1933, probably better.
Sure if you live in New Jersey or Illinois or California or some other left wing hell hole, things are not as good but those states are run by the far left and you should be moving anyway.
Yeah, it’s hard to see the forest for the trees sometimes. Virginia has held steady, but most of the more southern states have constitutional carry, and the age for Louisiana, at least, is 18. That’s definitely good. My 18-year-old is disinterested in firearms but stays close to home. My 17-year-old is into guns and was part of the 4H shooting club last year. She’s tiny (4′ 10″) but much more social than her sisters. I like the thought of her being able to carry concealed next year.
I couldn’t fathom living somewhere controlled by far-left politicians. Virginia is bad enough, DC is ridiculous, and Maryland is no better than DC. Hence why I never considered living anywhere north of Alexandria when I was stationed up that way. If I had gotten pulled over in DC or MD with a gun I was able to not only own but legally carry in VA, I’d have probably finished my prison sentence in 2022 instead of retiring.
I often wonder;
Do I need to wait 7 days before I can speak freely?
Do I need to wait 7 days before I enter the church of my choice?
Do I need to wait 7 days before I gather peacefully with my friends?
Do I need to wait 7 days before I petition the government?
Do I need to wait 7 days to exercise any of the rights I possess that are supposed to be protected by the Constitution?
I don’t think so…
So, why do I have to wait 7 days to exercise my right to bear arms?
In Commiefornia, the wait was or is 30 days.
Now… to stir the pot…
Where does everyone land on veteran’s with any discharge besides honorable’s gun rights?
How many discharge classes are there?
Honorable, dishonorable or something in between with
extenuating circumstances ie medical etc.
And is dishonorable a felony?
Dunno, I’m not a Biologist.
There’s general, either under honorable or other-than-honorable conditions. For all intents and purposes, a dishonorable is equivalent to a felony.
Bad conduct is another matter. I don’t think it prohibits a person from owning firearms, nor is it considered a felony, but it’s probably like the Class 1 misdemeanor of discharges, to the OTH’s lower misdemeanor and the general under honorable a traffic infraction.
From my understanding, characterization of discharge primarily affects veterans’ benefits, with anything below a general under honorable being ineligible.
I believe that a dishonorable discharge is the only prohibitor for a veteran to buy or possess a gun. I’d say it’s too easy to fulfill your contract, take your honorable discharge, and go home, but I only served in the Army, and only for two brief (and recent) decades. I used to work with two former Marines who’d been discharged under OTH conditions. Both had been 0311s, and both seemed to have gotten a raw deal, if they’re stories were true. Both passed the background check to sell firearms, and both were team leads (one moved to manage Hardlines, including Firearms).
You can get a big chicken dinner with a felony level conviction in a military court martial. That makes one prohibited. This used to be a problem getting it entered properly but after the Texas church shooting it was supposed to be fixed.
OTH is normally given with misdemeanor level offenses or some other stupidity like pissing hot. Sometimes they will give a GD for pissing hot, especially if it is junior soldier (E4 and below).
My brother the methematician took his OTH like a champ. He was in Grenada, you know, and watched his best friend die next to him. He tried to reenlist to go to the Gulf in 1990, but they wouldn’t let him. I’m still trying to math things out… he joined in March 1985 at age 17 and was kicked out around April 1990, serving in Berlin Brigade at the time. I always thought Grenada was in October 1983 and that the Berlin Brigade stayed in their namesake city for the duration of the existence.
It doesn’t matter, he got his OTH, proceeded to lose his license, maintained a facade of normalcy for a couple of decades (if you consider hefty bar tabs and numerous affairs normal), got his discharge upgraded and managed to eventually get to 80% disability, then COVID-itis inspired him to fully embrace methed acting.
Weird I can’t get disability for stuff that is actually wrong me, the VA says it doesn’t exist but the Army doctor said it does. Weird.
Yeah. The VA says the testicular and prostate cancer the Army gave me doesn’t seem to slow me down, so it’s not a disability. The good news is I’m guaranteed treatment at the VA. How wonderful. Guarantee what I already had. TRICARE took very good care of me, thank you! The “Burn Pit” legislation in action.
General Discharge = Shitbag.
Marilyn, you look wonderful darling!