F-35 crash in NM

| May 30, 2024
Photo: CBS / YouTube

 

 

A brand-new F-35B crashed on takeoff from Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque on  Wednesday.

 A pilot from the Defense Contract Management Agency was at the F-35B’s controls at the time of the incident. The plane had refueled at Kirtland Air Force Base, just adjacent to the airport, before the crash. The pilot ejected from the fighter and was transported to the University of New Mexico Hospital with serious injuries, ABC News reports. Two civilians on the ground were evaluated but not hospitalized.

Patrick White, who was driving in the area at the time of the crash, told AP that he saw the aircraft trailing low to the ground, kicking up a cloud of dirt and dust. He said it briefly disappeared from his line of sight, and then he saw “an enormous plume of black smoke.”

When he drove past the crash, he said he saw a piece of the fighter jet in the middle of the road.

Glad the pilot survived what must be a nightmare scenario, going down from a low altitude with a full load of fuel. They say there are things you can never have too much of,  like altitude when you have a problem or fuel if you are in trouble – I suspect this is the exception to those rules.

Judging by the picture it made a mess of the plane, essentially becoming a $90,000,000 total.

You have to wonder what the delivery terms on the F-35 contract are – if it’s theirs only until it leaves their plant they may be in the clear, but if the terms are “delivered to Edwards”  they maybe oughta call their insurance company – preferably one who’s “seen a lot of things”. Regardless of even a Texas-style “once it rolls over the curb that car is YOURS” clause, there’s probably a lot of very pointed questions being asked right now at Lockheed. For $90 mill one would expect the plane to log better than one hour in the air.

Category: "Your Tax Dollars At Work", Air Force

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jem3

Sounds like contaminated fuel to me but what the hell do I know!

Jimbo

I know as part of the preflight inspection for AvGas you test the fuel and see if there is water visible. Do active duty pilots test their own fuel or does somebody check that for them. I’m not familiar with how it’s done in Jet-A-1 fuel. Maybe there using bio-fuel? Regardless of what type of fuel, no altitude is a disaster.

Sapper3307

Wrong two stroke gas mix?

fm2176

They grabbed last year’s can from the shed.

SFC D

Yup. Old gas fouled the plug.

Grunt

Damn ethanol….

SFC D

Yeah, the carb on my CJ-3B despises that shit.

Grunt

No doubt. I run ethanol free in my mowers and Tru Fuel in the handheld stuff.

Yeah the Tru Fuel is expensive but it beats the fuck out of pulling carbs apart every time you want to fire something up.

26Limabeans

I broke out last years mower the other day and it wouldn’t fire so I
got out the starting fluid, drygas and
some octane booster. Ran pretty
good on last years gas but the blade
seems a bid dull. I usually get two
seasons out of a mower then shit
can it for a new one. At least the
stumps are smaller.

SFC D

It’s an annual carb rebuild. The seals just don’t like ethanol.

FuzeVT

Should’ve used STA-BIL.

MIRanger

Are we sure this isn’t another case of aircraft ejecting pilot without his consent? Like the Marine in South Carolina, but this time the airplane wasn’t ready to keep flying!

26Limabeans

“The plane had refueled at Kirtland Air Force Base, just adjacent to the airport, before the crash”

Missing gas cap?

Sapper3307

Missgenderd gas cap?

SFC D

Used regular instead of premium.

Anonymous

Somebody put in JP8 by mistake?

Steve1371

What ever happened over the one that flew away after the pilot ejected in North Carolina?

KoB

Somebody gots some ‘splainin’ to do, Lucy.

Odie

It will be pinned directly on some A1C fuel jockey.

Army-Air Force Guy

Unconfirmed reports say the pilot was overdue on his DEI training.

fm2176

We have some extremely technologically advanced and very expensive aircraft these days, and it seems that every few weeks we’re hearing about an F-35, Osprey, or other “game-changing” aircraft becoming a total loss, sometimes with the unfortunate loss of life as well.

I’m sure there have been plenty of F-16, F-15, F-14, F/A-18, F-4, and other jets that were lost during their heyday. It seems though that the classic case of pilot error, or of a pilot simply pushing his plane beyond its limits, has been surpassed by faulty parts, poor maintenance/QC, or other issues that should have been caught before the plane ever took to flight.

Steve1371

At least the door hole plug didn’t fall out.

5JC

Given all the incidents, reported and not reported on bases the last three months and the NATO report about Russian sabotage and the open border, I’m going to go different way.

There have been More than four reports of shots fired at US military air bases in the United States resulting in a base lockdown in the last 4 months for an active shooter. There was the incident at Quantico, the deadly incident at Fort Bragg and others all involving people in the country illegally.

I’m not much for conspiracy theories, but it appears to me that this has been suppressed by the media and there’s a lot more going on that we’re not hearing about. The only sources even telling the stories are notably conservative. Giving our track record the last few years with these type things It follows a very distinctive pattern.

Fyrfighter

They’ve gotta have a backup plan in case Trump wins in Nov..

USAFRetired

The three most worthless things in aviation are:

Runway behind you

Airspace above you

Fuel you left on the tanker

USAFRetired

Wasn’t it a west coast Marine unit that raised a stink about all of the discrepancies they had found on newly manufactured/delivered F-35s several months back. Perhaps the quality issues have not been resolved? I’ll wait on the SIB/AIB before I try to analyze news reports

Jimbo

I think that generally the engineering behind the aircraft design is pretty sound. My son is an avionics engineer and he says everything is checked by other engineers multiple times to make sure they got it right. My guess is that the parts are not meeting the specified qc. My own experience with Chinese tools was a spring compression tool. It was made from lead. And crumpled on the first squeeze. My hope is that the Chinese parts are made with the same qc. For their own use. I think that some companies are sourcing parts from suppliers who are cheating on production and obtains parts from illegal sources. …Chinese made. And they are ending up in critical resources. Like Bolts not meeting specified ratings etc. and being used in aircraft.

Steve1371

Many years ago I purchased set of chi com flair nut wrenches that broke like glass.

26Limabeans

Hanes mens briefs are made in Viet of the Nam and about
half an inch shorter than usa made.
Everyone taking their cut.

Jimbo

The leg holes are offset and one bigger than the other on the Hanes briefs.

AT1 ret

More fuel from Baltimore?

Graybeard

I’m thankful that the pilot is ok.

Not happy with the failure to fly – almost like one of Lars’ ideas. But this time it didn’t kill someone.

ChipNASA

It was the new Biden Green New Deal Solar Powered Experimental Model.
But what the hell do I know??

Hack Stone

Still better than the guy who purchased the Tesla truck and got 35 minutes out of it.