Navy chief arrested for domestic battery after celebrating his promotion
Kyle Rogemoser celebrated his promotion to chief with his girlfriend. They checked into a hotel, had a drink, and then had a celebratory dinner at the hotel’s dining facility. However, shortly after returning to the room, an argument broke out that got physical, resulting in injuries. Rogemoser was arrested for domestic battery.
From Fox News:
U.S. Navy Chief Kyle Rogemoser was celebrating his promotion before he landed behind bars for allegedly pummeling his girlfriend in their Florida hotel room as she begged for help, authorities said.
A good Samaritan heard her cries, stormed into the DoubleTree hotel room in Jacksonville and rescued the woman before calling 911, according to an arrest report obtained by Fox News Digital.
As the witness spoke to responding officers Oct. 7, he spotted Rogemoser, 36, strolling through the hotel lobby and pointed him out to deputies, the report says.
Rogemoser, who had a large, red abrasion on his neck, was arrested on one count of misdemeanor domestic battery shortly after midnight.
He appeared to be “extremely intoxicated” and repeatedly told a deputy he could not understand his Miranda rights, police said.
Fox News has additional information, including the arrest report, here.
Category: Navy
I’m just a slow old soldier whose knowledge of the Navy extends to “Down Periscope”…but isn’t 36 a little old to just be promoted to chief?
It’s definitely too old to be acting a fool.
These days, those kiddies who know better don’t join the military. They go out in the world and fail first then join the military. The average enlisted member is over the age of 25 now.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing that.
I knew things had changed, but I guess I didn’t realize how much.
Yup. Not everyone comes in at 18. I turned 25 in basic training.
Was 25 before getting to my first unit.
Went in at 17 right after High School like many of us at 17 and 18 during my era. We did have a recruit that went to College so I think that he had to be around 20 or so.
I was 27 when I joined, and still not the oldest in my Boot Camp Company. Our oldest Recruit was 30. And that was in 1995.
Now I understand what I’ve suspected the past several years. When I read the Army Times and other military publications, I notice the age creep. Like many here, I enlisted at 17 right out of high school. I was commissioned at 24. Been a military retiree for over 10 years now.
I recall in basic training the oldest was 30, married with two kids. We had another trainee who was 26 and single. They were the exceptions, the vast majority of us were under 22.
I think the oldest Trainee we had was a 42-year-old Prior Service Navy guy. I’d previously served with another Navy Vet who had been a CPO Selectee when he opted to get out after Desert Storm, later joining the Army National Guard and hitting Sanctuary at 18 years of service. He was 55, had 14 years of Navy service, and had gone through Infantry training at age 48. I think it was the two-week Guard program they had, but still impressive.
My dad’s generation (born in 1940) was one where you finished high school and did a few years in the military. I was very much of that same mentality but had a few disqualifiers initially and once I did join decided to stay in for the long haul. My kids have expressed little to no interest in joining and, if any of them do, will likely be in their late-20s at this rate.
And that may not be a bad thing.
So I made it at 35. The navy for a long time has promoted young in hopes of getting more mileage out of them. So when us older folk were up for selection somehow a kid who was in for only 8 years and had 3 years at sea was more qualified then someone who had 2 sea tours. Anyways, the last couple of cycles they have been picking the sailors with more time in because, you know someone with only a little life experience just doesn’t know everything even though their eval says they walk on water.
Our system is broken and has been for years, too many guys know the cheat code and get their evals written just right. We also instituted requirements for making rank that the ships now push because “we don’t want to be the reason our sailor doesn’t advance”. Give out trophies, errr I mean quals, and that’s what happens to your promotion system.
MMC
I quit before they fired me, one of my better life choices. Obviously I was not what the Navy was looking for in a Chief Petty Officer, so I took an early out.
Word spread quickly and I was confronted by a brand new CPO Selectee, a real winner. “You getting out? The Navy needs people like you.”
“Yeah, but it advances people like you.”
Had an ex-MM2 (submariner) aboard a ship once who remarked “sailors don’t “make” Chief anymore, they’re “made” Chiefs, and there’s a world of difference there.”
He said that was a major part of why he got out. Sounds a lot like what you just mentioned.
It had gotten worse since then. To add damage to injury, the sense of accountability and responsibility that was instilled in the rest of us was not strongly applied to those that followed us. During the balance of the drawdown of the 1990s, they went into a “war for bodies” mode. Discipline, accountability, responsibility, merit over boot licking, were among the casualties. We tried warning about how this was going to negatively impact the Navy’s ability to fight wars.
Remember when those two warships collided into commercial ships a few years back? Those collisions should not have happened, but the quality of people being promoted, coupled with not being held to the standards that people used to be held to, as well as the erosion of discipline, contributed to the mistakes made in both collisions.
Same for the Army. I joined at 23, made E-5 in under 3.5 years (a PCS precluded earlier promotion), then pinned E-6 two years after that. Then I waited, and waited, all the while excelling at my job and doing the thankless jobs the Army and units required of me. Recruiting, Brigade staff, and finally Drill Sergeant. After the 2012 NDAA, the Brigade Victim Advocate (VA) job was supposed to be full-time. I was in Afghanistan, so I was VA/Schools/RSOI Manager/TEDD Team Equipment Manager/Brigade UPL/who knows what else. One hour I’d be doing a SHARP sensing session or training with subordinate battalions, the next in the Jordanian compound planning out their movement to the RSOI site, then over at the kennels accounting for harnesses and other equipment, and finally back in the JOC compound processing a packet for someone to go to NCOES, all before starting a urinalysis for the BDE Commander and others in HHC.
All the while, the younger NCOs with little knowledge/experience outside of their MOS were getting promoted. I finally made E-7 with over 16 years in and nearly 11 years in grade as an E-6, at the ripe old age of 39. In the Army, recruiting duty does wonders for certain MOS’, but Combat Arms is usually hindered by it. There were lots of E-6s on Sand Hill who were in their mid-to-late 30s and sporting two ID badges (Recruiter and Drill Sergeant), while a lot of the E-7s and even E-8s around were noticeable younger.
I made E5 in 3 years, got stuck there for 11 years (understrength MOS, overstrength with a bunch of E6’s that were never gonna see E7 but wouldn’t get out). Made E7 real quick, first look. I was 40.
I noticed that it happens sometimes. A 1SG and I were talking at Manas about this; it took him a while to make E-6, but he made E-7 his first look and then E-8 not too long afterward. Better to be stuck at a higher paygrade than a lower, but it seems that many plateau and the Army tests our patience. I’ve known more than a few who finally get selected for E-7 or E-8 within a year or two of hitting 20.
I’d given up hope and was getting out shortly after my 10 year point. Made the cutoff for SSG about 60 days from my scheduled ETS.
Joined right out of high school. Made Chief at 34. I’d say most of my fellow Selects were right there in that age range of 32-38.
Wilson,
Air Force version —
From the 1980s, through at least this 2011 photo,
just put up by a proud Air Force retiree
in a USAF BMTS group on the Book of the Fake….
Lots of airmen NEVER make E-7.
This guy retired as an E-6 TSGT at 20 years,
with multiple overseas tours,
and a large pile of AFCM and AFAM medals.
But NO E-7 MSGT.
I hope this helps.
In the end, it’s the job we did and the Service Members (SM) we positively affected. Poor leaders will be remembered, especially those who made the rank to influence more SMs. Good leaders will also be remembered but will hopefully leave a positive mark on their respective service. I always go back to that 1SG at the Drill Sergeant Academy who chastised the Candidates for some trivial complaining, then asked us if we knew she’d made the E-9 list. She asked how we thought she felt, some replied positively, then she went off, stating that she was disappointed she “had” to stay in longer and deal with junior NCOs. No, 1SG, you don’t “have” to, and with a mentality like that, you shouldn’t continue serving. Maybe she was having a bad day, but with that attitude she was a toxic CSM in the making.
The 55-year-old I served with in 3ID retired as an E-6, as did a fellow retiree at work who happens to share both my birthday and alma mater. One of the riders in the van pool I shared with Navy Yard and other McNair employees was a retired Navy E-5. There’s no shame in honorable service.
Knew a dude who made E9 in 16 years but was twiddling his thumbs at 19 years waiting to retire because he’d been trying to get quid pro quo from female junior enlisted (who got sore and turned him in) as a CSM.
fm2176,
Excellent reply. Thanks.
In the desert in 1991 (activated Army National Guard unit),
we had 2 E-6 SSG in their 50s,
and several more in their 40s,
as well as a few E-5 SGT approaching 20 years Guard service, some of them over 40.
My section CWO4,
and 2 other unit members (CWO4 and SFC),
went to Saudi at age 59.
Precisely why I predicated my original post as a question because I realize that my perception may not be “on.”
My late uncle was enlisted USAF, got out, got a master’s in social work, and reentered as a Mental Health Officer… retired a Major and felt lucky to have gotten that far.
I was totally wrong about the chief thing … not being a Navy guy, in my head I was equating “chief” to sergeant … and that this guy was just making E5 (rather than E7) at age 36.
Dumbass! Good j.o.b. on screwing up there, Not-a-Chief Anymore. No matter what she does…DON’T HIT WIMMENS! Your fault, her fault, nobody’s fault, you’re gonna lose! A real man is a protector of women…not an abuser. If you think she is giving you a reason to hit her…LEAVE HER! And, Ladies? If he is abusing you…LEAVE HIM!
I was only about eight when that principle was drilled into me after I smacked my sister. Males striking females deserve a beating.
Sorry for the double post, just looked and his TIR was super low. Should start calling him PO2 select now.
Apologize for increasing thebesigs’ comment count? Don’t think there’s a problem.
*grin*
That’s a pretty slick strategy. Get promoted just before the indiscipline so you don’t get reduced as far…
Unless he got paid right away he will be an E-5 quickly. I have seen it happen a couple times to boot Chiefs.
He was #070 of the MMC selects, so he will be an E-5 shortly per your post.
And as he hits that E-5, he will automatically be HYT and processed out.
So be stupid, and be gone. Thanks for doing that right away, so we didn’t have to put up with your stupid ass for long.
I can see his career going down the tubes, and what an A-Hole.
He went Full Retard…
Hard to (easy) come, easy go.
Stupid bastard. I hope he didn’t throw away all of his 1st Class crows.
Well, I hope he enjoyed the Season and pinning. That’s about the pinnacle and short summary of his CPO career.
We had a series of very professional BDE CSMs in 3ID. One, whose Relief for Cause NCOER I happened to find on the share drive in Afghanistan, was fired after a domestic incident at a military ball. This was before my time there, but he’d struck his wife and the EOA happened to witness it. Suffice to say his career was over and that NCOER trumped even the one my Station Commander had shared with me after he was fired from his previous company. The CSM when I arrived was decent enough, but interim and part of the reason I ended up serving nearly 4 years on staff. He needed a Schools NCO, I fit the bill, and the promises made were no longer valid when he left a few months later. His replacement was a 75th Ranger guy who drank even more than his Irish name might insinuate, so when he was fired for constantly being drunk on duty, we got a good one who’d only recently gotten a battalion. This guy took us through Afghanistan and went on to be an installation CSM, who I’d see during the Senior Leader Update Briefs to the Director of the Army Staff during the Housing Crisis in 2019/2020. The CSM in charge when I left was a CAG (Delta) guy who loathed Big Army types (decent guy, just didn’t like the trials and tribulations of suddenly being taken out of his SOF element). He got fired after allegedly assaulting a Warrant Officer who was speeding through the back 40.
That’s immature gossip, I know, but as senior NCOs or Chiefs, we’re held to a higher standard than junior NCOs, who in turn are held to a higher standard than junior enlisted. A Chief should know better than to get boozed up and start battering his girlfriend. It doesn’t matter if it’s a PO1 with 7 years in about to pin CPO or a Command Master Chief with 35 years in, we just don’t do this.
Moron.
Aren’t there classes taught, basically non stop, about this sort of behavior? It should have been second nature by now, like tying his shoes, or checking himself in a mirror before walking out of the house, barracks or whatever?
I’m sure he’s going to enjoy taking orders from someone who 2 days ago was taking orders from him.
I wonder how many peoples toes were stepped on while climbing the ladder. Those same toes are attached to the asses he may have to kiss on his way down.
So, other than that, how was the party?
Sounds like the very basic shit from every Weekend Safety Briefing at Final Formation on Friday afternoon, “Don’t hit your Wife or Old Lady, don’t this or that, don’t pet stray dogs, don’t piss on the electric fence, …”
“Don’t add to or subtract from the population “.