Leroy Foley and the DD-214
You may recall the recent post that we did on Leroy Foley. Foley is currently a Clyde Texas police officer and is running for Sheriff of Callahan County. The election is March 3, 2020.
Well, a DD-214 has surfaced and had multiple postings on Facebook. A copy of this DD-214 was also sent to admins at Military Phony. We straightened it out for readability / aesthetic purposes and redacted information that should not be released to the public.
Although it looks official, having a partial stamp at the bottom with a seal from the County of Williamson, it should be pointed out that this DD-214 does not have a clean chain of custody as it has passed through many hands. Therefore, we cannot speak to its authenticity.
Oddly enough, some have presented this document as “proof” that Foley’s claim of Airborne Ranger, Sniper, and having been awarded both the Silver Star and Purple Heart are true. Others have presented it as proof that he is not being truthful.
Whatever its origins, and whatever people believe in terms of helping/hurting this case – we can tell you with certainty that this DD-214 is a fake and forgery. The commenters at TAH have combed over it and pointed out some things that help to draw the conclusion it is a fake. We will list them below with credit to the person making the comment.
Also, we would like to post a marked up one for convenience and quick reference. This input was consolidated in order to make it easier for civilians in Clyde Texas, Callahan Texas and the media to focus on what to look for.
We would encourage everybody concerned with the facts of this case to order Foley’s official military records in order to have the results sent to you directly and compare it with military claims and this document that has been floated around.
COMMENTS – BLOCK BY BLOCK
OVERALL:
TOP RIGHT: “Areas render form void” the word Void is misspelled “VIOD.” (martinjumper)
BLOCKS: My Army DD214 has light tan blocks for some of the sections. (e.g. name, SSAN, and etc. Other blocks are white, e.g. Primary Speciality, Decorations and etc. You would think that the copy of Leroy Folly’s DD 214 would at least have a darker shade, even after running through a copy machine, the tan blocks. (Mustang Major)
SCHOOLS: My DD 214 lists my schools by the name of the course, e.g BASIC ABN; not Airborne Certification. The names come right off of the Officer or Enlisted record briefs. I am sure the course names are standardized. (Mustang Major)
WHITE SPACE: Blocks 13, 14, and 18 of my DD 214 are filled from the left edge to the right edge and single spaced. My blocks 13 & 14 are completely used up and the last entry in block 18 is the issue date//NOTHING FOLLOWS. This is done to avoid typing in bogus info after the DD 214 is issued. Blocks 13, 14, 18 of Leroy Foley’s DD 214 have plenty of space. (All of the Army types reading this, take a look at their DD 214 and see how the format on yours compares to Leroy Foley’s DD 214.) (Mustang Major)
FONT:
- Proportional vs. Mono-Spaced Font. Mixed case and lower case vs. CAPS for entries. (Daisy Cutter)
- Fonts and Font Sizes on the DD214 are INCONSISTANT. (ninja)
- Should be ONE Font with ONE Font size. (ninja)
BLOCK 1: Typo on Defense Department form vs entry area – Name “(Last, Frist, Middle)” (Mason)
BLOCK 6: Reserve obligation term date has a 1997 year but the form was purportedly filled out in 1999 so that should be blank. (martinjumper)
BLOCK 7b: “City and state” should be “City and state, or complete address if known” (Compton)
BLOCK 8a: His DD214 has “FORCOM” followed by “RC.” The correct wording is “FORSCOM” and “FC” should be after that, not “RC” unless times have changed. Is he is thinking RC for the 75th RANGER Regiment (Reserve Component)? If so, that’s wrong. (ninja)
BLOCK 8b: “Place where separated” – “SEPARATED” is spelled as “SEPERATED” Same misspelling as in 12b. (martinjumper)
BLOCK 9:
- Says “ARPERCEN ‘stLouis'” and it should be “ST Louis” (ninja)
- USAR Control Group and ARPERCEN should be on one line. (ninja)
- If this DD214 was dated 1999, Block 9 should have read Army Reserve Personnel Command (AR-PERSCOM) as opposed to ARPECEN. (ninja)
- AR-PERSCOM was officially activated on Oct. 1, 1998, replacing ARPERCEN. (ninja)
BLOCK 11:
- Claims to be airborne ranger, MOS should be 11B2V if he was a buck sergeant (E5.) 11B – Infantryman 2 – skill level for an E-5 Sergeant V – Ranger Parachutist. If not Ranger qualified but airborne qualified it would be 11B2P. (martinjumper)
- In Block 11, the DD-214 claims “United Nations Service Medal” but that medal was awarded for the 1950-1953 Korean Conflict. (ninja)
BLOCK 12: “Years(s)” should be “Year(s)” (Compton)
BLOCK 12a-h: Zeros (0) are typed as the capital letter “O.” Notice in 12c where it says “10” for Years(s) (also misspelled with an extra “s”). That “10” is correctly typed with a zero, but the rest of the numbers throughout Block 12 had the captital letter “O.” (Dave Hardin, Compton)
BLOCK 12a-h:
- In block 12a, he entered service 890612. In block 12b, his EAS was 990511. In block 12c, total active service is 10y/00m/00d. His math is off. Should be 09y/11m/00d. This isn’t a typical mistake personnel would make. (NHSparky)
- Just did the math in Block 12: 89 06 12 | 99 05 11| is 9 yrs 10 months and 29 days. NOT 10 years (An Old Arty Sgt)
BLOCK 12b: “Seperation” is misspelled on the form vs. data entry. (Daisy Cutter)
BLOCK 12b: “Seperation” is misspelled on the form vs. data entry. (martinjumper, Daisy Cutter)
BLOCK 12f: Out of 10 years, he was OVERSEAS for 7 Years? Well, where are his Overseas Service Ribbons on his DD214? (ninja)
BLOCK 13:
- That’s not how awards are written on a DD-214. They all run together and fill up the white space. (martinjumper)
- He is claiming 7 ARCOMs and 14 AAMs in 10 Years – unlikely. (ninja)
- There’s no such thing as a “sniper badge” or an “airborne badge.” (martinjumper)
- Section 13 also shows the award of the “Sniper Badge.” No such badge exists. (T1B)
- The correct term for airborne wings is “Parachutist Badge.” (martinjumper)
- The Ranger award is called a “Ranger Tab” not a badge (martinjumper, rgr1480) but I don’t have one so I may be wrong on that. (martinjumper)
- There’s no such thing as a “Saudi Arabian Liberation Medal”. (martinjumper)
- Navy Commendation Medal? Although not unheard of, highly unlikely. (ninja)
- Soldiers Medal? Although not unheard of, highly unlikely. (ninja)
- Block 13 on his DD-214 says “National Defense Medal.” Should be “National Defense Service Medal.” (ArmyATC)
BLOCK 14:
- This DD-214 claims that ranger training was fifteen (15) weeks. The longest Ranger school has ever lasted is nine weeks back when they had that desert phase. RIP was only three weeks, so where does he get 15 weeks? (rgr769)
- Is that supposed to be “Combat Diver” or “Combat Drive?” (ninja)
- Advanced Non-Commissioned Officers Course (ANOC)? I thought he got out as a SGT/E5!! And in 10 Years? (ninja)
BLOCK 15a: In regards to the Post-Vietnam VEAP, the form uses a spelling of “VIETAM” (martinjumper)
BLOCK 15b: The military writes “high school” as two words, not one. (martinjumper)
BLOCK 16: “Leave Paid” should be DAYS ACCRUED LEAVE PAID (Compton)
BLOCK 17: Again the word “Separation” is spelled “Seperation” (martinjumper)
BLOCK 18: “remarks” should be ALL CAPS (Compton)
BLOCK 19a: This time “SEPARATION” is spelled correctly vs. rest of the form. (Daisy Cutter)
BLOCK 20: “DEPT. OF VET AFFAIRS” should be “DIR. OF VET AFFAIRS” and should be “Yes No” (Compton)
BLOCK 22: The name “JOHMSON” is most likely misspelled. Nobody has been found with that name. (ninja)
BLOCK 23: This time “SEPARATION” is spelled correctly vs. rest of the form. (Daisy Cutter)
BLOCK 25: This time “SEPARATION” is spelled correctly vs. rest of the form. (Daisy Cutter)
BLOCK 28: This time “SEPARATION” is spelled correctly vs. rest of the form. (Daisy Cutter)
And finally…
BLOCKS 1-30: They contain a large collection of nonsensical, grabasstic asshattery. We do not leave blank spaces at the end of lines by left justifying them because clowns like Foley may use them to insert claims of nonexistent valor. (DAVE HARDIN)
Category: "Your Tax Dollars At Work", Army Poser, Phony soldiers, Police, Purple Heart, Ranger, Silver Star, Stolen Valor, Stolen Valor Act, Valor Vultures
Just noticed a new typo. Name “(Last, Frist, Middle)”
Thank you. See updated entry for that crediting you.
Leroy “Phony” Foley
You are finished dick face! Now go apologize to someone who really bears a Purple Heart. Be at least part man you dirty bastard.
I would think every defense attorney in Clyde is looking at this as a get-out-of-jail-free card for any case in which this bozo testified. OK, probably THE defense attorney in Clyde, if any… towns of less than 4,000 folks don’t tend to have tons of lawyers.
It’s only 15 miles to Abilene,
where the “big city” lawyers are.
Shit like Leroy Foley’s is an Appeals Attorney’s wet dream come true.
And that is a understatement
It’s been said that one lawyer in a small town will probably starve, but two lawyers in a small town will make a good living. 😉
It’s like that phony C-130 pilot, cheese connoisseur, who had one of his documents “certified”, leading to his authorization to wear the law enforcement awards in the “certified document”. 🙄
All that stamp does is certify the copy is the same document you shoved under the nose of the clerk.
It is not their job to determine authenticity.
Amen.
Looks about as real to me as a Civil War Issue polyester blanket. It’s like a kid’s cartoon, “Leroy Foley and his Magic DD
2214″!*OOPS!*, “Leroy Foley and his Magic DD214”, A Proud Infidel®™ needs to do a better job of proofreading before hitting “POST COMMENT”!
Your typo was quite funny, when you look at all the typos on that exhibit form.
The part that is cut off at the bottom is the attestation from the Registrar of the County. In full, it should say something like “This is to certify that the above is a true and accurate copy of a document presented for recording on [date and time] and has been duly recorded at [book and page] of the official records of Williamson County Texas.”
The actual DD-214 could be — and obviously is — a total forgery, but the “wrap around” authentication printout, probably from a microfilm or record, should allow anyone else at the Registrar’s office to validate when and perhaps who recorded the document.
While it is obvious from the FOIA records that Foley is embellishing, up to and including outright lying about his service, dirty trick campaign supporters have been known to create obviously phony documents and make them appear to have come from the target.
It’s called “Black Propaganda.” Every SF soldier knows that, so I’d like to confirm the source of the above DD-214 copy before I would attribute it to Foley.
If that document was entered into the Registar of Williamson County – can anyone of authority or the person that entered it expunge it from the official record after it was recorded?
I posted a link to get a copy
On the other post if you want to get a free
Copy of this phony document
Here is a link
https://www.wilco.org/County-Clerk
Tried several times with no luck.
Implied from your post before that you “Official Records Search” and the obvious choice is “Military Discharge Index – Web” but typing Foley’s name yields nothing.
Can you be more specific or is this just a speculative pointer and you believe it is there without seeing it with your own eyes.
Thanks for any further help you can provide.
I don’t have java on my phone
But usually it’s the link
Through the recorders office
When I get home I’ll pull my computer out and see what I can pull up
Ninja was able to navigate better then I can with my phone
I just sent you a email
Can you just download it and send it to:
admin@militaryphony.com
Done
It’s a public record
Anytime one puts there 214
On file with any county recorders office
Anywhere in the US
I’ve pulled a few up already
Most don’t charge unless
You want a certified copy
Have not received it yet. Did you get the email address correct?
Steve
Ninja below in the comments is explaining how they got in
I’ll post the link to the above Email
I don’t have access to my computer to do it
I’m on my photo now so doc searches is almost impossible
For me at this moment
I sent a email
FYI
I work in A California County Recorders Office.
Here there’s been a State change in some aspects of obtaining recorded DD 214’s
27337.
(a) If any military veteran or any person authorized to receive a certified copy of a record pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 6107 requests the recordation in any county in this state of any military discharge document, including a veteran’s service form DD214, the county recorder shall record the document and maintain the document information in a nonpublic index.
(b) No copy of a recorded military discharge document may be issued except as provided by Section 6107.
(c) The index of a recorded veteran’s service form DD214, provided that it was recorded on or after January 1, 1980, shall be moved to a nonpublic index at the request of the military veteran or the person authorized to receive a certified copy of a record pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 6107.
(d) (1) Only the military veteran, or the person authorized to receive a certified copy of a record pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 6107, may receive a copy of the recorded document contained in the nonpublic index created pursuant to subdivisions (a) and (c).
(2) Provided that the nonpublic index meets the minimum standards for protecting the confidentiality of veterans’ records specified in paragraph (1), the implementation and design of the nonpublic index shall otherwise be up to the discretion of the individual county recorder.
(Amended by Stats. 2017, Ch. 399, Sec. 2. (AB 331) Effective January 1, 2018.)
Thank you, this is good information to know.
Deeply appreciated.
The stamp only certifies that the document was received and filed by the county. It has nothing to do with accuracy or legitimacy. That falls on the submitter.
Exactly this idiot
Pull the rope around his own
Neck by filing a fake document
This way if he did
Talk about stupid
I work in a California County Recorders office.
Document Examiners here scrutinize real estate type docuuments before accepting or rejecting them for recording.
DD-214’s are accepted for recording on good faith and are never rejected.
Additionally,most recording clerks have no military knowledge whatsoever and DD-214’s might as well be written kin Greek.
That’s not even a 214…at least not the November 1988 version.
I should know. I have one from that timeframe and got out 3 months before he claims to.
This shit is something someone made up in MS Word.
Foley is unavailable for comment – he is trying to figure out a way to put the shit back in the horse.
I wish him good luck with that.😏
Thanks for the update on Leroy “Fakin’ the Funk” Foley.
Leroy “Be All You Can Be” Foley
Sadly, he’s got a good head start at being a politician.
I did a Public Service offering today and left some info on the Clyde PD Facebook page under a post about the I-20 exit being opened.:
https://www.facebook.com/Clyde-Police-Department-773785845984275/
Frankee Cee – Great job.
Yes, the Clyde PD might be taking this seriously.
I hope.
And some more:
Block 9 has “ARPERCEN ‘stLouis'”.
Should be “ST Louis”
Also, USAR Control Group and ARPERCEN should be on one line.
What is more interesting is that if this DD214 was dated 1999, Block 9 should have read Army Reserve Personnel Command (AR-PERSCOM) as oppose to ARPECEN.
AR-PERSCOM was officially activated on Oct. 1, 1998, replacing ARPERCEN.
He also apparently took a ‘ Basic Noncommissioned Office’ course. Sounds boring for such a stud.
If he went past his reserve obligation date (which he supposedly did), would it still be that or N/A?
Mine is the latter, but I wasn’t Army, so there’s that.
I’m making a trip to Sweetwater, Tex then down
To the North Ft Hood area to say hi to a friend
That I met at Bethesda while I was there
I’m being told by a few buddy’s down there
This is par for the course for a small county in Texas
The bull shit story telling
I personally have 6 214s four of them thanks
To being a nasty girl on title 10 orders
From Germany to Iraq to Conus
The above document is total BULLSHIT !!!!
thanks to 3 of my uncles passing away lately
I have a book of 214s from 1966 to 1997
To pick through to look at type style
And orders from them to my time in service
To include awards from them to the ones I have
When are people going to figure out that this kind
Of bullshit is a no go
There are to many of us out here who are paying attention, why hell even my 7 year old kid knows what’s up know
Get a life jack-asses
And a small county in Nevada.
And a small county in West Virginia.
And a small county in …….
Believe me I had to endure serving
Near the turd it wasn’t fun either
Same CAV company
Colt Bulot
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=64423
More none stop death threats my lawyer is going to serve you
Blah Blah Blah
Everyone I knew was so sick of his shit
Hit me up when you get to North Fort Hood. I’ll be up there running an MRX this week.
Should be in that area on Friday if all goes well
I’m getting delayed a day thanks to a winter storm
That’s hitting us tomorrow thru Tuesday
We are expecting up to 18 inches of snow
AW1Ed has my email
I’m going to my youngest on board for this trip
The boss is working next week
It’s going to be fun LMAO !!!!!
Fonts and Font Sizes on the DD214 are INCONSISTANT.
Should be ONE Font with ONE Font size.
Can someone point me to the fake DD-214 issuance facility so I can get my MOH upgraded to “His High Holiness of Valor” medal?
Thats funny! LMAO!
Going to put it in your shadow box along side the halo, WO?
*grin*
The first thing that struck me about this yesterday looking at it was it a Nov 88 version of the form and I’m pretty sure there were intervening versions between then and when this form was purportedly accomplished all of which included a disclaimer previous versions were obsolete?
I separated in 1995 and my DD-214 is the Nov ’88 version. I have another DD-214 dated Feb 2000.
I have a third DD-214 dated Aug 2009 issued when I separated in 2011.
I’m not sure if there was another edition of the DD-214 form printed between Nov ’88 and Feb 2000.
Regardless, Foley’s work is a poorly forged document.
I have a DD-214 from a reserve mobilization that ended in May of 1998 and it was the Nov 88 version so that may be one of the few things on Foley’s bogus DD-214 that is technically ‘correct.’
I retired in Sep 1992 and my DD 214 is the Nov 88 one. All the fonts are the same and it was in all CAPS. Not that many blank spaces at the end of each line and all the space were used. A lot of // between each award and assignments too. Box 12 RECORD OF SERVICE was a lot smaller.. All the numbers seem centered and the numbers filled the box. Box 8.b STATION WHERE SEPARATED (misspelled on his) has a zip code for the place.
Nov. 88 here as well, got out Feb. 99.
And yes, mine has the disclaimer regarding previous versions.
And I know which boxes should be shaded and which aren’t. He can’t or was too stupid to replicate them when he ginned up this abortion of a forgery.
I have to say I’m a little disappointed.
There are no “why don’t y’all get a life” comments yet.
Maybe there is some head-scratching going on down Texas way.
Oh,
Leroy Foley has enablers, conspirators, and defenders
handing them around in county rant groups on Facebook.
Some of them have gone silent today.
Why is it so hard to claim being a 88M
Or a 35H or
being a 19D turned admin bitch
Life is so much easier down here
Instead everyone want to be a call of bootie
Black ops ninja supper star
I’ve meet some amazing people
While in the Army none talk much
About what they have done that was crazy
But we all love our stories about getting faded
And fuckerd up back in the day
I agree Skippy. I was a telecommunications specialist, ordnance specialist, administrative officer, personnel officer, logistics officer, and a PSYOP officer. I was a mustang with six years enlisted service and over seven years of foreign duty with deployments to AFG and Iraq.
I put the “ME” in REMF! I’m proud of my service and don’t embellish. Many people don’t know I’m retired military because it’s not something I volunteer. Uncle Sam still appreciates what I did and direct deposits my retired pay faithfully the first of every month!
Right beside ya, CCRat. A 31E most of my career, did the repairs, installs, talking etc on the old AN/VRC 12 series radios, and the AN/GRC106 HF rig, as well as the 122/142 RATT rigs.
As we used to say, “You can talk about us, but you can’t talk without us”.
If you’re an 88M, you can honestly say you’re an Operator.
I think I can speak for SFC D on this as well as myself…I’m proud to have been a Signaleer and damn proud of my Signaleers!
Every job in the Army exists for a reason and no MOS exists that is not necessary to wartime success.
Think personnelists are not necessary? Wait until you have a pay problem in the box!
You can speak for me anytime. I had a great career in Signal, never had the desire or the balls to go do Infantry stuff! Loved my job and the kids that worked for me.
My ole platoon dad from Ft Huachuca
And his wife are my daughters god dad and mother
Signal all the way as he says
The 11B days are catching up with him finally
Word on the pay issue
As a retired Career Counselor (2013), I’d say this is a complete forgery and false document. 214s are normally completed at the transition center and I’ve never seen this style of font. For an official form, why so many misspellings on the document, time is not figured correctly, form not filled out correctly, awards are not properly annotated. Official signature is suppose to be a Warrant Officer or higher, even a GS personal in charge of a transition center, what is a PHOC SEC in block 22? Those signature look similar with the curves and final swipe of the pen.
What is laughable is that words printed on the blank form are misspelled, like “void” and “Vietnam.”
Want another good laugh?
ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION.
When one goes to Williamson County, Texas Court Records, one can pull up documents that have Leroy Grant Foley’s signature (please see the link below).
There are a couple of legal documents on that site that deal with him buying a home that has his signature on those documents.
Check out the document from 1998 and compare it to his “DD214” that was generated in 1999.
(Right-Click and choose “Open image in new tab” or “Save as…” to see big version)
Signatures do not match.
Which also leads to another question. This document can be found on the same link.
Ole Leroy could afford a home in 1998, yet could not pay Child Support to his First Wife?
In December 2004, he owed her $39, 042.84 in Child Support that went into effect 17 October 1995.
$39,042.84!!!
Here is the link:
https://www.wilco.org/County-Clerk
When going to that link, click on “Official Public Records Search” and after acknowledging, type in his name.
His Signature is on Block 21 of his Bogus DD214.
“In December 2004, he owed her $39, 042.84 in Child Support that went into effect 17 October 1995.”
The plot thickens, I wonder just what will pop up next?
Damn! What do those kids eat?
It was the same reaction I had when Mike Tyson said when he wanted $5 Million for a fight – he said “My kids gotta eat.”
Damn! What are his kids eating?
Proud…
I divorced my asshole in 86, was granted $500 in child support, got nothing from him and So many reasons we had to hide…found out he broke his back in a drug related accident 2002.
Took him to court Pro Per against his high dollar lawyer for back support, interest…
I WON MY $1,500 per month on his $188,000 arrears…
The original child support payment was $500 a month..
I wish I could post the judgement.
Well, that works out to about $352/month over a period of 9 years 2 mo. For two or more kids, that may not be excessive – no experience there, so dunno.
And I’d guess that $39k+ total includes court-ordered interest on the unpaid balance, so the actual monthly amount he was ordered to pay may be quite a bit less than $350.
My parents divorced back in the early 1980’s. Sis went with mom. I went with dad.
He paid way more than $300/mo.
That’s a great looking FORGERY of a Department of Defense Form 214.
Salutations to the POS claiming to be a highly decorated secret squirrel ninja…
Is BNOC only 6 weeks? ANOC is only 4?
Depends on the MOS. My BNCOC was about 8 weeks IIRC. Mid May to mid July. I was a 96B All Source Intel Analyst.
11M BNCOC was 6 weeks. This is usually a local school for 11 series.
My 29V BNCOC was 22 weeks. This is only at Fort Gordon.
I don’t know about ANCOC, but it is only at Fort Benning.
My 29V/Y ANCOC was 20 weeks.
What’s the legal punishment for forging federal records?
DOD level revocation of your highly coveted, but rarely awarded NDSM./s
For Stolen Valor claims of Silver Star and Purple Heart,
see
Federal Stolen Valor Act of 2013.
For Leroy Foley, tack on the
Texas 2015 Stolen Valor law (more harsh).
Believe it or not, both Hondo and I looked up the Federal forgery laws and were not able to find anything making it a Federal crime to alter a DD-214 or to present an altered DD-214 as a genuine one.
Some states consider forgery to be presenting any altered document and representing it as being genuine in order to obtain some benefit from it. I don’t know how Texas defines forgery.
Federal forgery laws apply to specific instruments and the DD-214 is not one of them.
Um, don’t think that was me, amigo.
While I could never find a federal statute prohibiting forgery in general, forgery of certain items IS prohibited. In particular, 5 USC 498 makes forgery of a military discharge certificate a crime – albeit only a misdemeanor.
Well, this is interesting.
One does not need a FACEBOOK account to see this:
https://www.facebook.com/American-Legion-Post-423-Cross-Plains-Texas-511336212391190/
*** Update***
“Deputy Jowers has informed me that he is having surgery on the 27th of February. I have been talking to him to find out when he could come down and speak. I will update as soon as I find out.”
“I would like both candidates to address us all at the same time, but if they are unable to we may have a single candidate night for each one.”
“I have been made aware of doubts of candidates service claims and I encourage both candidates to bring their Dd214 along with any other evidence they wish to provide so that the issue can be laid to rest.”
**********
“I have asked the two candidates running for Callahan County Sheriff if they would like to come speak to us on the 27th of February. I would like to open this up to anyone in the county to come and listen to these gentlemen.”
“Leroy Foley has accepted the invitation. I am still waiting to hear from Rick Jowers. The post does not endorse any political candidate, but we will provide a space for them to talk to the membership and the community.”
American Legion Post 423 Cross Plains, Texas has invited Leroy Foley and Rick Jowers to speak on 27 February 2020.
Foley has accepted. Jowers said he is having surgery on the 27th.
The Post Commander has encouraged both Foley and Jowers to bring their DD214s as well as other evidence on their Military Service.
Wonder if Foley will show up?
Jowers can easily have an assistant with his campaign hand carry a copy of his DD-214.
If Foney Foley shows up on the 27th with that ridiculously faked DD214, he is toast. Moreover, if he used his fake military service story in obtaining his employment as a LEO, he will likely soon become unemployed. And he won’t be the first POSer who lost his cop job because of lies about military service. We have seen it happen multiple times over the past 7 years.
I went to the Williamson County online services site:
https://eagle.wilco.org/williamsonweb/
and searched for FOLEY LEROY, FOLEY LEROY G and FOLEY LEROY GRANT. Various documents popped up, as mentioned above, these include deeds, mortgage notices, and yes, a child support lien.
But no DD-214!?*
Could this be in fact a “double forgery”?
That is, a forged DD-214 cut and pasted onto some other document from the Clerk of Williamson County, TX?
Both State and Federal forgery?
To the best of my recollection on TAH, if so, that’s a first.
*I’ve noticed that some jurisdictions, such as California, will NOT permit public viewing or copies of DD-214’s, even redacted. Only the servicemember can obtain a copy from the official record book.
I ran into that problem trying to get a DD-214 from California for that lying fraud with the Elko POW-MIA Awareness Association … what was his name? Oh yeah, Les Brown. May be remain famous.
Mods, you may want to take this and start a new thread: I looked up Les Brown, just to see what he has been up to lately (lately as of January 29, 2020.) QUOTE: The POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association’s Chili Feed has become a popular event for Elko, the surrounding areas and for people from all over the United States. Visitors come from as far as Washington DC for this annual event. The association held their first Chili Feed at the Red Lion Ball Room in 2006. The first year they filled half of the Ball Room. By the third year they were filling the Club Max Showroom and by 2011 they had out grown the showroom and had to turn people away. The next year in 2012 the Association moved the event to the Convention Center. Since the move the event has had, on average, 500 people attend. The event has since moved to the new Convention Center building and has had continued success. The event is held to raise money for the National League of POW/MIA Families and to send delegates from the association to Washington DC each year as Sergeant at Arms for the League’s Annual Meeting. The delegates also help the National League in other capacities to help the annual meeting run smoothly for the Family Members of the missing. Because of the help of the wonderful community of Elko and surrounding areas the POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association was able to present the National League of POW/MIA Families with a check for $13,255.00 in 2019. The National League of Families thanked Elko County for their support in 2012 with a certificate of appreciation. Elko County is the only county to receive this certificate. The Association would like to thank everyone for their undying, continued support. The mission of the fullest possible accounting of our missing would not be possible if not for the giving people that support us all year and attend the Chili Feed. We look forward to seeing everyone one this year for another successful event. END QUOTE SOURCE: http://everythingelko.com/2020/01/29/powmia-elko-awareness-association/ So every year Lying… Read more »
Bingo.
The chili feed is in 6 days.
Saturday, February 15.
I am looking forward to seeing the photos in Elko,
and who is wearing what.
and more….
7.b. “City and state” should be “City and state, or complete address if known”
10. “SGU COVERAGE” should be “SGLI COVERAGE” and missing the “None” box
11. “List number, title and years and months in specialty.” should be “List number, title and years and months in specialty. List additional specialty numbers and titles involving periods of one or more years.”
12. “Years(s)” should be “Year(s)”
12.a. “Date entered AD This Period” should be “Date Entered AD This Period” also typically dates are typed in long format – “89 06 12” should be “1989 JUN 12”
12.b. “99 05 11” should be “1999 MAY 11”
12.h. “93 03 01” should be “1993 MAR 01” (or maybe its 1998)
13. there is a space missing between “BADGES, CITATIONS”
14. “Course Title Number of Weeks and Months and years Completed” should be “Course title, number of weeks, and month and year completed”
15.a. VETERAN’S should be VETERANS’ also the “YES NO” should be “Yes No”
15.b. should be ALL CAPS
16. Leave Paid should be DAYS ACCRUED LEAVE PAID
17. should be ALL CAPS; lowercase yes and no; should be Yes and No
18. remarks should be ALL CAPS
19.a. “zip code” should be “Zip Code”
19.b. “Name and Address – Include zip code” should be “Name and address – include Zip Code”
20. “DEPT. OF VET AFFAIRS” should be “DIR. OF VET AFFAIRS” and should be “Yes No”
22. “Type name, grade, title and signature” should be “Typed name, grade, title and signature”
Bottom. “DD FORM 214, NOV 88” should be “DD Form 214, NOV 88”
and… after all the subsection letters, there seems to be no period; for example “4.a” should be “4.a.”
Stay tuned for TOMORROW.
(Monday)
That’s all I can say today.
Admin, please check your email.
I hope the police chief there is using the weekend to get his blood pressure down. When his office staff bring his attention to their facebook page on Monday, he might be boiling.
Maybe that could be the next fun episode of “Leroy Foley and His Magic DD214”!
OK, another mistake I noticed.
In block number 10, he has “SGU” as part of the form vs. “SGLI”
My theory is that the L and the I are bunched together in a certain font and looks like a “U” vs. “LI”
That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.
Foley was assigned to the extra special secret squirrel “Sniper Gunship Unit”…
Don’t sockpuppets work on weekends? I would have thought that we would have seen one by now. Others and myself have left some love on the PD Facebook page.
Wal*Mart and KFC pay shift differential on Sunday.
They’re busy.
Zeros ( 0 ) are typed as letter Os (O) in the 12 blocks.
Another minor (but substantial) discrepancy:
In block 12a, he entered service 890612.
In block 12b, his EAS was 990511.
In block 12c, total active service is 10y/00m/00d.
His math is off. Should be 09y/11m/00d. And no, this isn’t typically a mistake personnel would make.
Also just did a search on Doug Sterner’s website. Our boy Leroy has no record of Silver Star or Soldier’s Medal.
Shocked face. Right here.
Foley’s newly printed campaign cards that he’s passing out.
I noticed in Block 13 his DD-214 says “National Defense Medal. Shouldn’t that be National Defense Service Medal? That’s how it shows on my 214s.
That is how it is stated in every legit DD214. Foney Foley’s fake document is more bogus than a four dollar bill.
About a decade and a half ago, someone was passing very nicely done $200 bills in the Orlando area. They had GWB on them, and were fairly well made, probably on bleached singles.
Same time frame, someone was passing sorta-kinda decent $13s with various obscure people on them.
Thirteen dollar bills.
And cashiers were accepting both.
-Thirteen- dollar bills.
Humanity is doomed.
DOOOOOOOOMED!
Just try spending a $2 bill without the salesclerk calling the cops on you. And God help you if the cop never saw a $2 bill.
Hey, Leroy Grant Foley, Wannabe 75th RANGER Regiment Phony:
Are you reading this?
If you have not heard:
SFC Antonio Rey Rodriguez, age 28, of Las Cruces, N.M. was Killed In Action this past Saturday after they wounded up in a firefight with a gunman that injured six others in the Nangarhar province in eastern Afghanistan.
SFC Rodriguez enlisted with the Army in 2009, completed training at Fort Benning in Georgia and was assigned to the 3rd Ranger Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. He deployed eight times with the 75th Ranger Regiment and twice with 3rd Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne) in support of Operation Freedom’s Sentinel.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/afghanistan-attack-army-soliders-green-berets-special-forces
ninja:
Exactly why I have such a dislike for posers. Especially veterans who embellish. The coward that never served and makes the claim is a mess, but the veteran that embellishes is pure dogshit.
Posers should take up Yoga.
In Block 11, Ole Leroy claims “United Nations Service Medal”.
Wow. What a StudMuffin. We now know he served in the 1950-1953 Korean Conflict.
Probably got his FIRST Purple Heart in that Conflict since he is claiming TWO Purple Hearts.
😉😎
He was wounded by a chi-com while pushing General Ridgway out of the line of fire at Chip-yong Ni in1951…
It is possible he received a UN MEDAL, just not a UN Service Medal.
The UN medal was awarded for Somalia for instance.
DD214 clerks are usually pretty junior (E-4/E-5, GS5 etc) and errors like that do happen.
It coulda happened like that.
But that’s not how the smart money bets.
Looking for the Vegas odds
Foley will probably now claim he was HACKED and the phony 214 is a political dirty trick from his opponents. Problem is this fake 214 was apparently directly submitted to Clyde PD as part of his job application, and only Foley himself could have registered this document with Williamson County. It doesn’t look good for Mr. Foley…
Just did the math in Block 12
89 06 12
99 05 11
IS 9 yrs 10 months and 29 days. NOT 10 years
Rounded up for forgery/embellishment purposes.
Remember, “Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.”/s
Arty, see my comment above.
And it would be 9y/11mo, because the day you get out counts as a day, so if I came in July 1 and left on August 1, they’d count that as a month and a day versus a month.
But his math, along with everything else, is as fucked up as a cock-flavored lollipop.
Did the guy ever actually serve? Liens are perfected for unpaid child support and this guy is hoping to become a Sheriff?
This information should be brought to the attention of the Callahan County District Attorney, County Commissioners and Sheriff’s Department.
http://www.co.callahan.tx.us/page/callahan.District.Attorney
IIRC, didn’t Dan Rather get his unimpeachable evidence about W from a Kinko’s Copy Shop in Abilene?
Yes, they were copies of copies that were made from documents typed in Microsoft Word, with incorrect military terminology and formatting. They were irrefutably proven to be fake. Ol’ Gunga Dan knew a big story when he saw one, especially if it aligned with his political prejudices. “Fake but accurate” was his comeback.
charles w to the white courtesy phone. The packaging plant manager called, we need to buy more of your popcorn futures. The demand has far exceeded the on hand supply.
Leroy you better hope that a certain Elko NV Ass needs a provost of some sort cause you ain’t gonna get elected dog catcher or crossing guard nowhere. That Elko Ass seems to like lying embellishing pieces of sh^t.
Well, lookie here.
This is on THIS AINT HELL Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/This-Aint-Hell-108485462524228/
One does not need to have FACEBOOK account to see this. Sounds as if Ole Leroy almost MISSED MOVEMENT TWICE.
For those who serve or have served in the US Army, you know what MISSED MOVEMENT means.
Sounds as if Ole Leroy was a Problem Child.
“I served with Foley. As I remember it, he was 11M and had no time with the Rangers. Also his dates of service as I remember were during peace time and all at Ft. Hood. I also clearly remember without any question he failed to deploy with us for Bosnia trainup at Ft Irwin, and tried again, and failed when we deployed to Bosnia. All of the Company’s senior leaders banned together to get him gear to deploy as his came up missing on day of departure, as they did a few months prior to going to the National Training Center for trainup.”
Dale W Smith
USA 1SG (ret)
What also still amazes me is that he owed in 2004 almost $40,000 of Unpaid Child Support to his First Wife.
He was ordered to pay her in 1995. He was in the US Army and probably failed to tell his Chain of Command about paying Child Support.
And again, wonder if Wife #2 and Wife #3 knew about this.
The guy could buy a house in 1998, but could not pay Child Support.
And this guy is running for Sheriff.
To the Folks of Callahan County, Texas: RUN!
I don’t think he was in the Army in 1995. I’m thinking the original record is correct: he did a 2 year enlistment, got out and worked security jobs until he finally got on as a cop or deputy somewhere.
Just a hunch, but maybe Leroy Foley see getting elected Sheriff as a steady meal ticket, thus he’s a-waving his Magic DD214 thinking that it will fleece the locals into voting for him?
AS TO the recollections of those serving with Leroy Foley, it does appear that he was quite the problem child of his unit, a “THAT GUY”. If his gear kept coming up missing, did he lose it or pawn it?
Both? Lost some, pawned some.
If things go down the tube, you can always go to hollyweird and apply for a job as a Foley artist beside being a B.S. Artist.
There will be an extra folding chair for Foley at the Elko Annual Chili Feed this year.
That is one community that will welcome him with open arms.
He will just need to get a doo-rag, get a bike, get a leather vest and slap some unearned bling on it – then he’ll fit right in. He can then move on to doing visits to the grade school and hugging children.
That is if his unpaid Child Support doesn’t catch up to him first!
What about tattoos? Surely there must be some minimum requirement.
I don’t get the Elko reference, other than that’s where my ex lives….
You need search for and read the epic TAH expose on fake MSG Les Brown of Elko,NV.
It’s time well spent. I think Les is hoping the coast is clear.
Really, Foley better hope he loses this election. If he does, he’ll likely slink away and all will soon be forgotten.
OTOH if he wins, then likely his troubles will only multiply.
Another:
In block 8 a:
Unless he was assigned to FORSCOM HQ, it would identify his actual assignment. His unit was assigned to FC, not him.
My 214 block 8 a from this same time frame is shown as such: FTS USA 81 REG SPT CMD FC
Note how FC is the last code on the line identifying 81st as a FORSCOM unit. Also note that I was NOT assigned to FORSCOM, but FTS USA 81 REG SPT CMD. I was assigned to 81st and that unit is assigned to FC.
This is a dead giveaway that this is fake. No PERMS clerk at the transition point would make this mistake.
Also, block 9 is wrong. First, AR PERSCOM ST LOUIS had an address which is not in the block. Second, soldiers must be assigned to some form of unit (UIC). in his case it should be USAR CON GP (IRR) etc. If he had served all of his 8 year initial commitment and had not executed a retention contract with the USAR and had fully completed all obligations, this block would indicate that by NOT assigning him to a new unit.
For example: My last 214 assigns me to USAR CON GP (RET) 1600 SPEARHEAD DIVISION AVE, FT KNOX, KY 40122
This is an actual “unit” within the IRR created specifically for managing retirees until they are past recall age.
His 214 and records would go straight to NARA, not the USAR.
MONDAY, February 10
——————
After 3 days of county wide thunderstorms…
Today’s weather forecast for Clyde, Texas: More HEAVY RAIN.
Chance of precipitation: 100%
Don’t get soaked.
Wear your waterproof boots and cowboy hats.
6am – Drops are falling, as the sunrise breaks.
But wait…. the raindrops look BROWN.
Holy crap, it’s raining SHIT.
Hide the cowboy hats.
Keep the shit off the cowboy hats.
It’s a shit storm coming!
Now, at 0610Hrs, in the sleepy Texas Town of Clyde, a police chief is waking up, stretching, hoping for a hot cup of coffee and a quiet Monday. Little does he know that his office girl is going to do her “10th of the Month” run through the department facebook page.
An aside:
I posted a comment above at 0610Hrs Central Time, and when it posted it came up as at 0810Hrs. Is TAH running on Iceland Time now? What time zone is the site maintained from. Back in the days of Jonn, it was always an hour off my time.
Just curious.
I don’t think the server changed time when DST ended, FC.
The server is much like me – it lives in the past.
That’s reasonable. Not proper, but reasonable. Thanks Hondo.
Scrolling the Clyde PD Facebook page, just now, I found this comment:
Clyde Police Department: Paul Shumway we are aware of these allegations and are conducting an internal review of them. We can not comment further until the review is complete.
showing as 1 day old.
I feel it is likely fake, but some of the “evidence” it is fake is nonsense.
I was “parachutist” qualified since 1993 and I don’t think any of my subsequent DD214s had a “P” in my MOS. Though, they did all have my wings in the awards section.
I don’t think there is one smoking gun that clearly stands out, it is the propoderence of the evidence that should be considered.
That’s because the “P” SQI is for Enlisted Personnel, not Commissioned Officers. Commissioned Officer MOS’s were all numeric.
For example, the MOS for a Jump Qualified Infantry NCO was 11B4P, while a Jump Qualified Infantry Commissioned Officer was 71542.
Correct for at least part of the Vietnam era. However, prior to 1980 some if not all Army officer specialty abbreviations had transitioned to three-letter alphanumeric codes as well – first two numeric, 3rd position alphabetic. Officers also began receiving ASIs to show qualifications such as Parachutist, Ranger, etc . . . then or shortly afterwards.
I’m not sure precisely when the change occurred, but it was definitely pre-1980 for some if not all officer career fields. I’m reasonably sure it was implemented across-the-board when it was implemented and was implemented sometime during the early/mid 1970s (it certainly didn’t seem to be brand new in the late 1970s), but I’m not positive and haven’t been able to find a definitive reference.
FWIW: this is one case where Wikipedia is not a good source. Their article on Military Occupational specialty codes is at best misleading and at worst is incorrect or incomplete. That article leads one to believe that the change occurred in the Army in 1983, and I know with certainty that many if not all Army specialties had gone to alphanumeric officer speicalty codes prior to 1980. As I recall the 1983 change aligned the officer and enlisted codes more closely, changing a number of them, but was not when officer alphanumeric specialty codes were introduced.
I knew that./smile
I posted the Wiki info as bait to lure you away from all your Hondo Honeys and give us the straight poop.
Anyway, Good Morning To Ya and am glad to see you’re up and about.
Yeah, been on the road and otherwise rather busy lately. But had some time this AM.
Claw, not anymore. An infantry officer would be 11A with all of the attendant skill identifiers. I don’t know when the changeover happened, but I’m sure that would be the case with our buddy up there. That being said, and this is addressed to Commissar, the key point to focus on is that a NCO assigned to Regiment would absolutely NOT have an 11B10 MOS!
That is correct. 71542 was my MOS until it became 31542.
Weren’t you an officer? I don’t think officers have SQI’s on their MOS’s. Not sure about that, I retired as an E-7 and never looked at any officer DD-214s in detail.
S1 types can chim in, but I’m pretty sure the P or V is only there if it’s part of your DUTY MOS at the time of discharge.
So, for example, someone who is assigned to an airborne unit and was ALSO airborne qualified at the time of their discharge will show the P on their duty MOS at the time of discharge: 11B2P or 11B2V if they were also ranger qualified.
But if even if they were airborne and ranger, if they were assigned to a non-airborne unit at the time of discharge it would only show the duty MOS of 11B20
Put another way, I don’t think a “5 jump chump” who managed to get jump school some time in their career but was never assigned to an airborne unit would carry a P SQI on their MOS.
Martinjmpr, I think you’re exactly right…
It’s the assignment billet AND the qualification, not the qualification by itself…
Yah, I’ve about 40% more jumps than most “5 jump chumps” …. I’m a 7-jump chump and was a “leg” Ranger graduate of 14-80 (busted my cherry at Camp Mackall, not Ranger School).
Anyway, my retirement DD214, Block 11 (Primary Specialty … etc.) states:
11A INFANTRY, GENERAL, 14 YRS & 6 MOS//39C
CIVIL AFFAIR OFFICER, 14 YRS & 6
MOS//NOTHING FOLLOWS.
If you are parachutist qualified, your ASI is “P”.
You do not have to be in a “P” designated billet to have the ASI.
The same will go for “V”.
ASI and SQI identify the soldier’s skills, not the unit’s.
Well, yes and no. I’m not sure what the reg says but I have 5 DD-214’s, 4 of them were issued to me after I was airborne qualified.
I qualified for two MOS’s, 96B (all source intel analyst) and 95B (military police.) I’ve been active to Federal service out of the RC in both MOS’s.
The two that were issued to me when I was discharged from an airborne unit show my MOS as 96B3P (96B, skill level 3 for E-6 and P for Parachutist qualified) which was my duty MOS during the deployment (I made my last jump in ’03 after returning from Afghanistan.)
The two that were issued to me following Reserve Component Mobilizations with non-airborne units are split. One shows an MOS of 95B3P (Military police, airborne qualified) even though the unit I was mobilized with (2125th GSU out of Fort Bragg) was not an airborne unit. The other one shows 96B400 from the 115th Field Artillery Brigade of the WY National Guard following a mobilization and deployment to Kuwait in 2004.
So at least for me, it’s 50/50 on whether an airborne qualified soldier will show the “P” as their duty MOS if they weren’t in an airborne slot when they were discharged. Others can chime in based on their experiences but that’s mine FWIW.
I was in an Airborne slot when discharged at least twice. Neither DD214 has the identifier.
For the record I was enlisted when I went to jump school and served on jump status in a half dozen assignments/units.
I don’t think any of my DD214s had the “P” qualifier.