Venkman Still Speaks

| November 19, 2019

We’re in for a bit of glory-hounding here, people, so grab a beverage, crank up your skeptic volume a bit, and take what Venkman – er, Vindman – Vindman, thati’s it – Vindman says with a grain of salt. (Venkman was a Ghostbuster.)

He’s a bit too eager to be in the spotlight. If he’s not doing this to score some PR creds for himself and get Big Cash down the road, than I’m just sitting here playing Chinese checkers with Bozo the Clown.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/11/19/army-officer-vindman-ready-to-speak-out-publicly-on-trump/

He is quoted substantially by the reporter, so read the article in toto. Then decide things for yourselves. I keep wanting to whistle and yell ‘Here, boy! Catch this!”

He’s far too eager to be in the public eye, far too willing to grab the spotlight and run his mouth. Since he may be facing retirement soonest, his efforts to get ahead of the pack on this do make sense, but — well,he’s just a bit too eager to get into the spotlight.

Anyone besides me know the meaning of that antique term “turncoat”?  Anyone? Bueller?

Category: "Truth or fiction?", "Your Tax Dollars At Work", Politics, Trump!

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Anonymous

Vindman’s suckin’ up for a cushy leftist retirement job on MSNBC or something… if not to be the replacement for the term “Quisling” lately.

ArmyATC

I was thinking the same thing. Watch for him to show up on CNN or MSNBC as their “military expert.”

5th/77th FA

Turncoat? = hell in his case, pick one… attention whore?… deepstate plant?… Hitlery spy?… enemy of our Republic?… Should of been fired 3 years ago?… Or, most probably, a future talking head “expert” for just about any of the mess media Progda propaganda waste of broadcast spectrum.

The pure waste of these continued “investigations” is sickening, but the good news is that at least the congress critters haven’t passed any new laws to take more money out of our pockets…yet.

Honor and Courage

He is a rat and a POS. They have already arranger a nice job for him in the Democratic Party! He needs to drop his paper work and stop wearing that uniform.

rgr769

Watch out, according to the D-rats, Vindy and his family have been moved to an unnamed Army base because of “haters” like us. Shifty will likely demand he be put in Wit-Sec and given a new identity until he retires next year and starts his gig as a CNN consultant on all things military and foreign relations.

Jus Bill

Yeah. I noticed he was disrespecting it again today on TV while perjuring himself (again).

Anonymous

Can’t help but thinking (after bringing up “You are a disgusting fatbody, Private Pyle!” from Full Metal Jacket) many out there are imagining the following:

Huey Jock

Speaking of uniform, I saw what should have been a unit patch on the right side of his jacket that was familiar but don’t remember the unit.

Can somebody explain why that patch should be worn like that?

rgr769

It is the patch (badge on the blues) of the 25th Infantry Division. It is worn on the right pocket to indicate he served in a combat zone with that unit. He likely served in the sand box with one of that division’s combat brigades. The 25th ID is based in Hawaii.

Berliner

aka “The Electric Strawberry” patch.

SgtBob

Some of those people are given (or assume) way too much authority. Not that Vindman was in a position like LTC Oliver North to move guns and money, but the attitude is the same. Vindman needs to count the number of Army LTCs still on active duty. He ain’t as smart as he thinks.

Sandman

There are certain things in this world we will never see,,,such as:

Vindman being truthful
‘Alaska Bob’s’ DD 214
Elko, NV acknowledging Les Brown is a POS poser
The disbandment of the DRC.

rgr769

He did admit that right after the phone call, he told two people outside the NSC of its contents. One was Kent. The Shiffhole stopped him from saying the name of the other cuz the second was likely his pal Eric the Rat, a Trump hater/Clintonista at CIA.

Berliner

unEthical Eric, the blower, had his $750k gofundme taken down after taking in $250k from many “anonymous” donors.

You don’t even need to spell out his last name. You can find him suprisingly by doing a search there by typing in “Eric Cia”. They refunded the donors after pulling down the page after complaints which is why it is at “$0”, where last week it listed $250k.

David

So HE thought Trump’s policy could undermine the US’ policy? News flash, LTC: you don’t MAKE policy, you carry OUT policy.

Whatever happened to “Soldier, shut up and soldier!”?

There is an old joke yhat comes to mind about rank insignia whose punch line ends with “we hide our pricks under oak leaves.”

Club Manager, USA ret.

As a LTC, Vindman knew he was facing forced retirement at the 30 year mark next year. So rather than remain loyal and land a decent paying civil service job, he opted to receive a lesser award upon retirement (hopefully another NDSM), but with the probably of a good book deal and some air time on CNN, MSNBC, etc, and maybe a left wing organization. What I would like to see is someone strip his rank epaulets off and shove them down his throat. This officer is an embarrassment to all of the men and women in the officer corps serving honorably.

SFC D

rgr769

See this is why he is living in secret guarded quarters at Ft. Meyers. Uh oh, I just disclosed highly classified information.

A Proud Infidel®™

Vindman what a sniveling attention whore and I still think that he looks like a cocksucker!

Anonymous

Blue Falcon weasel too…

A Proud Infidel®™

And a 24K Blue Falcon at that!

ArmyATC

He and Buttigieg would have two things in common.

Charles

From the article quoted above: “I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications to the U.S. Government’s support of Ukraine,” Vindman said in his deposition. Perhaps LTC Vindman should read the oath of office that President Trump took upon his assuming the office of President: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” And what are the duties of the Office of the President? Again, let us look to the Constitution: Article II, Section 3: “… he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed …”. Imagine that! A President who actually takes care that the laws be faithfully executed. He is, on the federal level, the “Top Cop” with a constitutional duty to root out crime and corruption where ever he may find it, both domestic and foreign (to the extent it violated United States laws). (Such as failure to report foreign income, the same crime that put Paul Manafort in jail; or being an unregistered foreign agent, the same offense that former General Michael Flynn was convicted of). The democrats had no problem with those investigations, and when crimes were discovered, the defendant’s being prosecuted. Did Obama “take care that the laws be faithfully executed?” Hell no, in fact, his DACA program… Read more »

11B-Mailclerk

They are trying to set up that prior Donk administrations are immune from prosecution.

“You cant prosecute a political rival!”

“They broke the law? Hold my Diet Coke and watch me.”

“Impeachment” has become so shrill and self-serving, so over-the-top bullcrap-based, that I now am of the opinion I should assume that anyone saying “Impeach Trump!” earnestly does so because they have major Federal felonies to conceal.

I suppose there might be a few advocates in a small non-felonious category of “Stupid as a doorknob” types. Maybe.

A Proud Infidel®™

More like they’re trying to set a precedent that you cannot be prosecuted if you’re a D-rat.

rgr769

I think that precedent has already been set by the D-rats, if the Hildabeast and her inner circle are any indication.

A Proud Infidel®™

NOW we can ask liberal TARDOs just how many homeless people could be fed and housed with the money the D-rats have wasted so far on their baseless inquisition!

rgr769

They will just ignore that question or claim the Constitution mandated they do this.

A Proud Infidel®™

That or they’l just plug their ears while yelling “ORANGE MAN BAD, ORANGE MAN BAD, LALALALALALALALALALALALA…”

Anonymous

Whatever it is, it’s okay when Democrats do it…

A Proud Infidel®™

BIDEN openly admits to playing quid pro quo with Foreign Aid money and the D-rats screech that President Trump did it instead, liberalism is truly a Mental Disorder!

rgr769

That is the video the blind Steelyeye couldn’t see or hear. Cuz when D-rats do something improper or illegal, either it didn’t happen or it was Okey-Dokey

A Proud Infidel®™

Ditto with Lars!

SFC D

Vindman apparently wasn’t properly briefed on his role in the administration. LTC’s don’t set foreign policy for the President, they don’t advise the President on foreign policy, they don’t get to disagree with the President’s foreign policy, they act to ensure the President’s foreign policy is carried out. Somehow, this LTC decided he was in charge of foreign policy.

A Proud Infidel®™

Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder – TARD

Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder Operative – TARDO

Really Exceptional Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder – RETARDO

Vindman is obviously a TARDO wanting to go off into the books as being a big RETARDO!

Arby

There is rank and there are pay grades. Vindman is an O-5.

Dragoon 45

What I can’t understand is why Vindman is not being run up the flag pole for violations of Article 88 and Article 133 of the UCMJ. What the Hell happened to the tradition of the Officer Corps remaining apolitical? If the Army doesn’t hammer Vindman for his actions then this country is well and truly screwed. What will stop the next Officer from engaging in politics while in uniform?

charles w

Different spanks for different ranks.

11B-Mailclerk

That should indicate the state of rot in the armed forces.

I am hoping to see a 2nd-term “you are fired” purge that rocks the armed forces for a century. Ditto the various swampcritters on the civil side.

Long past due.

Folks, this is what happens when you have a “war” without victory conditions that read approximately “conquer the enemy utterly” and “stop when they run out of fight, sparing no tool of lawful warfare”.

Can we not do this again? “Never another Vietnam” became “Hold my beer and watch -this-.“

Stupid. And we owe the folks in uniform much better.

MustangCryppie

President Reagan’s comment on the strategy for winning the Cold War is still the gold standard.

“We win. They lose.”

DaveP.

Of the people who could ley charges against him:

Some are saying “Well, if we prosecute this guy we’ll look like we’re political on Trump’s side.”

Some think the Democrats are going to win, and don’t want to end up on an Enemies List.

Some think that Vindman’s right, and foreign policy SHOULD be made exclusively by bureaucrats and the Pentagon… and not any goober who was merely elected.

And some are pushing for this coup’s success.

I’ll let y’all decide how all of that fits in with swearing an oath to the constitution or an officer’s integrity.

Mustang Major

Vindman must be a painful officer to serve with. Smarter than everyone else in his opinion. I am sure that he was an outcast in many of his assignments.

When he read his OER to Congress, it struck me that it had all of the right buzz words and phrases. I doubt if his civilian boss wrote it. I am suspect Vindman gave the boss a draft.

rgr769

From what I have seen of him and his “heroic” acts, I can see why he was never an infantry battalion commander. He has all the hallmarks of that rat bastard my troops wanted to kill in the Viet of the Nam. Fortunately for him, he never flew his own helicopter crewless. Side note, he was relieved for incompetence after only about three months of command and put in charge of the division’s support battalion.

Commissar

You are full of shit as usual.

Blaster

?????? You were in Viet Nam with rgr769????

How do you know he is “full of shit”?

rgr769

That would be a time travel trick, since Larsie wasn’t even hatched yet.

A Proud Infidel®™

LARS hadn’t even been OOZED out of a vial labeled “MENTALLY DEFECTIVE DNA, DO NOT USE”!

A Proud Infidel®™

Most if not nearly ALL of us tend to think that Vindman was every bit as much of a pain in the ass to deal and serve with as you are here, Lars!

A Proud Infidel®™

HEY Lars, MANY a pain in the ass of an Officer met his end at the hands of his Subordinates in Vietnam, ever hear of “Fragging”? IMHO rgr769 is a Badass who WAS there and can tell about it FAR more reliably than you can, but I bet that according to you, Service in Vietnam was all hugs and kisses with lollipop-lined streets like you way you talk shit about mine and everyone else’s Military Service, you arrogant imbecilic asswart!

rgr769

Well fraggings were extremely rare, I never heard of one involving company grade officers. But we did have a battalion XO (Major) in the Americal who had a claymore placed and detonated under the floor of his hooch. The only thing that saved him was the fact that the battalion’s safe was right next to his bunk, and the shitbirds (awaiting court martial) in the division base camp had mistakenly placed the claymore directly under the safe instead of his bunk. I heard he had a hell of a headache and tinnitus for quite a while.

SFC D

You should say that while staring at your reflection. It’s much more appropriate and accurate.

11B-Mailclerk

You submerged your credibility in the used blue juice tank a long time ago.

You could mend your ways, but your fondness for your own rage will prevent it. You haven’t bottomed out yet. Might want to ponder what that portends for the future.

Mason

That’s the best ya got on this topic? I was expecting more, since Vindman seems like your kind of guy.

26Limabeans

Ha ha ha. Hit a nerve eh?

Nucsnipe

And you’re a sexist pig, and Vindman is a pompous moron.

rgr769

Ooh, you have awoken the Krakens from the DC swamp fan base. After liely, we will be hearing from the steelyeye and the LC, cuz Vindy is like a recipient of the Medal of Honor for the Progs and Never-Trumpers. He is their Audie Murphy.

OWB

So now you are bragging about knowing nothing about those who you call names? Gee. What a surprise.

Maybe not so much.

Mason

Did anyone else catch when he demanded Devin Nunes call him by his rank? Who’s the subordinate one here, 𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒖𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒂𝒏𝒕 colonel?

The balls on a guy to do that. Epic eye roll time.

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Berliner

Reminds me of a LT back in the 1/506. We’d be waiting out on the barracks steps. All of the platoon leaders would be walking from the parking lot headed towards the closest door to their offices. This one LT yahoo, with a stick up his a$$, would deviate from his buddies to walk to the far door where we were just so he could be saluted before proceeding in to his office at the other end of the building.

Third morning he did this we all moved indoors as he approached until he had entered the building. He got the message.

Poetrooper

Bet you he was just sitting there waiting for some Republican to call him mister to pull his rank stunt. Wonder how he’ll respond when some pissed off general calls him mister, hmm?

The pudgy prick didn’t say a word when two Dems addressed him as mister.

Nah, he’s not politically biased…

Nucsnipe

Waaaaah!!!!! They can’t be veterans those meanies, they don’t agree with us morons. Waaaaah!!!!!!

Nucsnipe

BTW throughout my military career I’ve meet numerous military people that were pompous, selfpromoting,assclowns. Im thinking you fall into that category. This wouldn’t be a new moniker for Lars,is it?

rgr769

Me too, it is why I got out with the short career. That LTC who was my first battalion commander in the Viet of the Nam thought he shit ice cream and there weren’t enough spoons to go around, just because he married a three star general’s daughter. The worthless piece of shit was hated by every man in an entire infantry battalion except his kiss-ass CSM. There was a rumor that someone was holding $5K for the man who killed him. Every officer on his staff and all the company commanders hated him because of the arrogant and dishonest shit he pulled. Many of the helicopter pilots would fake a maintenance problem so they wouldn’t have to fly for him. Frequently we lost our re-supply bird because he commandeered the aircraft and pissed off the pilots. Luckily, he is likely deceased by now. I swore if I ever crossed paths with him, I would punch him in the face.

fareed

The Tab is a school, The Scroll is a way of life.

He wasn’t a JM and hasn’t “led” anything except the line at Starbucks since 08. Manstruating over being addressed by his rank was pretty rich for a walking food-blister who’s job doesn’t require him to be in uniform.

rgr769

I am suspecting his two trips to the DC clown hall are the first times he has worn his uniform in over four years. The only reason he did so is so that the Shiffhole and his crooked lawers could portray him to the Progda as a military hero. “Highly decorated,” my ass.

Berliner

From another site…
“According to Cernovich, his source who went through Ranger School with Alexander Vindmann, said he was lazy and a chow thief. His Ranger School classmate said his peers wanted him out.”
Vindmann was in Ranger class 9-03

A Proud Infidel®™

*SMACK!* Oooh, that’s gonna leave a mark!

rgr769

Today, I was wondering about how Vindy did at Ranger school. Well some of his classmates in Class 9-03 have commented that he was a “chow thief” and “lazy” and they wanted him bounced or not awarded the tab, but apparently the RTB decided otherwise.

fareed

I was told the same thing from a source I trust.

His political loyalty mirrors his career path as a Staff puke since making Major in 08. He needs to have his clearance suspended pending a lifestyle poly and financial audit.

rgr769

Today, I was wondering about how Vindy did at Ranger school. Well some of his classmates in Class 9-03 have commented that he was a “chow thief” and “lazy” and they wanted him bounced or not awarded the tab, but apparently the RTB decided otherwise.

Mason

Could it have been they knew it was the only way to get him to a staff job where he could do less damage? In theory at least. Who was to predict that instead of a do-nothing staff job at the battalion that he’d end up trying to subvert national foreign policy?

rgr769

Imagine how the D-rats and Progda would be reacting if Russia made three overtures to recruit one of Trump’s service officers to be the Russian defense minister. Proof of treason?

26Limabeans

Can’t fault him for wearing the uniform while
testifying because hero but Ollie North was eviserated
for it.
Vindman is no Ollie North.

Combat Historian

For the sake of my blood pressure, I try to stay away from reading and thinking about the impeachment clown show and circus, but I have to say that the individual we are discussing here is an embarrassment and a blot on the U.S. Army Officers’ Corps, and has brought great shame and dishonor upon himself. Nuff said…

rgr769

I was taught that Army officers were supposed to be completely apolitical. I guess that is an old fashioned principle. In observation of that principle, I never even voted when on active duty. And in the reserve components I never expressed partisan political views while in uniform. I still think it is improper. But hey, in these proggy times anything goes, as there are no standards anymore.

OWB

Ooooh, that’s some very funny stuff right there. Yes, it is…

Feel all better now, lily????

PS: Attacking vets who don’t agree with you. Hmmmm. You do see the hypocrisy in what you just said, right?

A Proud Infidel®™

“She” sounds like she’s a Screeching SJW Flower Monkey from UC Berzerkely!

Mustang Major

Just watching the news this morning. One of the Republican congressmen that questioned Vindman was being interviewed on Fox News. The congressman said that Vindman claimed that he was Trump’s Ukraine advisor- he wasn’t, and that Vindman was upset that Trump never read his memos on Ukraine.

I understand Vindman joined in 1999. His twenty years are up in 2019. He should make an exit stage left and retire or do so when he has enough time in grade to retire at his present rank. I can’t imagine his military career moving ahead.

26Limabeans

Perfect timing for a book deal to supplement
the retirement.

Mason

Burisma has some cushy board positions that might suddenly open up to a courageous and connected retired Army officer that has half of Congress now on speed dial.

rgr769

He already must still have Ukrainian citizenship if it’s president thought he could recruit him to be their new defense minister.

Mason

Hey, dumbass. Nobody is attacking Vindman’s bona fides in regards to his combat experience(s), his being wounded, or his service in Iraq.

We disagree with his blatant, openly political nature. He thinks he can dictate American foreign policy literally over the POTUS.

People make light of his more recent service as a DC swamp POG where he has besmirched his own service by being a partisan, chain of command ignoring deep state operative attempting to bring down a president he doesn’t like.

You, Lars, and the MSM seem to think that a vet who agrees with you politically or philosophically is above reproach and shouldn’t be argued with. Same goes for a black person or woman or anyone else who fits any protected category. But if those people disagree with you, then it’s fair game to question everything about them, their service, and their character.

Marcus Welby

Please tell me this guy didn’t graduate from q course. I’ll have to suffocate myself in a fat ladies cleavage.

A Proud Infidel®™

Tellya what, just call for a *WAAAAAAHHH*mbulance to come to you and its crew will give you a nice, warm fuzzy GROUP HUG, an organic peanut butter sandwich and some fresh Kool-Aid all while everyone sings “Kum-ba-yah. If you ever need someone to come cry to expecting a hug, DON’T LOOK AT ME!!!

Poetrooper

Normal vets? You checked any military voter demographics lately?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2016/05/09/military-times-survey-troops-prefer-trump-to-clinton-by-a-huge-margin/

And even those veterans who do vote Democrat tend to be among that dwindling cohort formerly known as “conservative Democrats.” Just as it has walked away from law enforcement, other first responders and much of America’s middle class wage earners, the Democrat party has abandoned the military voter. Just look at who Democrats defend as military heroes:

John Kerry

Bradley Manning

Bowe Bergdahl

Alex Vindmann

See a “normal” pattern there, Lily?