Iran vs….. ummm, well…. Somebody!

| September 20, 2019 | 17 Comments

First off, the Pentagon has now said it will defer to Saudi Aranbia’s position and let them take the lead, by their announcing who is responsible for the recent, very destructive attack on the oil depot.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/09/19/pentagon-wont-blame-iran-for-saudi-attack-until-saudi-assessment-concludes/

From the article:  In a Pentagon meeting with reporters, Jonathan Rath Hoffman, assistant to the secretary of defense of defense for public affairs, said the U.S. would defer to Saudi Arabia and allow them to announce their conclusion for who was behind the attack.

“Our position on this has been we’re going to work through with the Saudis as they make their assessment of what took place,” Hoffman told reporters Thursday. “With regard to that, we’re going to let them put out the information as they go through the assessment. We’re going to be with them working through that.”

The comments come after Secretary of State Mike Pompeo accused Iran on Wednesday of being responsible for the attack, which he characterized as an “act of war.” The comments were made to reporters as he traveled to Saudi Arabia. – article

Second, Mr. Zarif (Iran) insists that Iran had nothing to do with it, that it was all the “Yemenis”, and that there will be an all-out war if Iran is attacked. He snagged an interview (see the article for the link) with CNN, so you know who’s on his side.

Third, Iran has constantly poked and poked both the Saudi government and the USA, as well as other nations (e.g., UK ship hijacking) for months now, the way some obnoxious kid in the 6th grade – the one who wants attention all the time – goes around punching and poking the other kids to get the attention he’s after. And he gets it, but for all the wrong reasons. Unless he’s smacked down for it somehow (nowadays, kids get “counseling”) he just goes on doing it until one day, he meets his match.

And Iran wants to get to that point, declaring publicly that if they are attacked after all the punches and poking they’ve done, then it will be all-out war.  https://time.com/5681879/iran-war-warning-saudi-oil-attack/  Zarif repeats this in his interview.

From the Time article:  (DUBAI, United Arab Emirates) — Any attack on Iran by the U.S. or Saudi Arabia will spark an “all-out war,” Tehran’s top diplomat warned Thursday, raising the stakes as Washington and Riyadh weigh a response to a drone-and-missile strike on the kingdom’s oil industry that shook global energy markets.

The comments by Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif represented the starkest warning yet by Iran in a long summer of mysterious attacks and incidents following the collapse of Iran’s 2015 nuclear deal with world powers, more than a year after President Donald Trump unilaterally withdrew the U.S. from the accord.

They appeared to be aimed directly at U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who while on a trip to the region earlier referred to Saturday’s attack in Saudi Arabia as an “act of war.”

Pompeo, who was in the United Arab Emirates, dismissed Zarif’s remarks, saying: “I was here (doing) active diplomacy while the foreign minister of Iran is threatening all-out war to fight to the last American.” – article.

Okay, then. Let them start it first. The schoolyard bully still doesn’t get it.

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  1. 5th/77th FA says:

    After a coupla slaps you start running out of cheeks to turn. These mofos been poking us in the eye since at least ’79. Keep it up fuzz face. I honestly think they want to get bombed back into the 7th Century.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Iran wants to be The Victim.

      The bully always blames his victims when they fight back, because then, he’s the victim, remember?

      I can just picture Zarif mumbling “What do we have to do to get them to start a fight with us?”

    • thebesig says:

      They’re desperately goading us into striking them so that they could direct their populations’ attention against us… And away from them.

      Right now, with the choking economic sanctions and the impacts that these sanctions are having on Iran, the Iranian People are seeing the Iranian government as the villain. The Iranian people know that their government is shafting them with their defiance against their neighbors, the international community, etc. Wait till the Iranian government fails to sustain pension accounts.

      Their legitimacy is hemorrhaging. If we do some serious damage to their country, their government could temporarily get their people’s attention off of them and gain sympathy from the international community… Thus putting themselves in a better bargaining position.

      Letting Saudi Arabia determine the type of response was a good move. It keeps Iran as subject to the dirty stares from their neighbors and from the international community.

      • Helpful Medal says:

        “The Iranian people are seeing the Iranian government as the villain.”

        Wow, you sure seem to have a good grasp on how the Iranians feel about the legitimacy of their government! What are you basing that opinion on? Sounds like you just pulled that statement out of your ass. So this is Trump’s 3D chess move to get the people of Iran to overthrow the government in some future, unspecified timeframe?

        Trump’s habit of threatening countries over Twitter and then not doing shit about it sure is making us look strong and legitimate to the international community.

        Here’s a fucking idea: let’s make it so Iran stops fucking with oil shipping and bombing Saudi oil fields?

        Oh, we gotta 3D chess it, huh? Yea, I thought so.

        • thebesig says:

          Helpful Medal: Wow, you sure seem to have a good grasp on how the Iranians feel about the legitimacy of their government! What are you basing that opinion on?

          Not opinion, but fact. Facts gathered since the last decade doing research on what they say, on how they’ve reacted in the past, and on how they’re reacting now. There is information available pointing out how the Iranian government is reacting to these sanctions.

          Their attack on Saudi Arabia didn’t come as a surprise. They’re reacting to the effects of the sanctions, and they’re desperately trying to get us to attack them in order for them to have a reason to demonize us… And to get their people’s attention away from the government.

          I anticipate that they are going to keep pulling these stunts in hopes of getting attacked.

          Helpful Medal: Sounds like you just pulled that statement out of your ass.

          Tell that one brain celled activity of yours to quit trying to take you over and to start doing its job so that you could quit posting as if a retarded ghost possesses you. Don’t assume that I’m doing exactly what you’re doing. Like the claim that you pulled out of your ass regarding your “being deployed to Iraq”.

          As with anything else you said, that statement proved to be false and indicated what everybody else suspected… That you’re full of it. Unlike your claims of being in Iraq (you’re not), my statements are fact, based on information that is already out there. All you have to do is research that information.

          I won’t post information unless two requirements are met.

          1. I’ve done extensive study/research on the topic or I have extensive first-hand experience on the topic…

          2. Those who would disagree with me have absolutely no clue about what they’re arguing.

          Both these requirements have been met with you… Again.

          Helpful Medal: So this is Trump’s 3D chess move to get the people of Iran to overthrow the government in some future, unspecified timeframe?

          As President Trump repeatedly stated, Iran should come to the negotiating table and work on a deal. That’s his objective with these sanctions… For Iran to come to the negotiating table to negotiate a real deal.

          If you pulled your head out of your ass, removed your extra-large horse-blinders, and wait for the effects of your poop intoxication to wear out, you’d know that. Refraining from hitting the bong before you post would also help.

          Helpful Medal: Trump’s habit of threatening countries over Twitter and then not doing shit about it sure is making us look strong and legitimate to the international community.

          It’s called, “keeping them off balance” and “keeping them guessing” about what you’re going to do. Additionally, he’s not always specific about what kind of action he would take. In Iran’s case, their biggest worry is financial. They’re desperately trying to get the Europeans into an agreement that would replace the benefits of the abandoned agreement… Or to salvage the abandoned one in their favor.

          Also, saying something to the effect of, “If you do this, then this will happen”, is not exactly, “threatening and doing nothing”. It’s simply giving the recipient a choice. Go down the path they claim they’re going down and suffer the consequences, or continue what they’re doing that’s not going down a dangerous path and they don’t see those consequences.

          Additionally, those tweets do have an effect. His holding strong with China has resulted in trade partners agreeing to renegotiate their terms with us in favor of an agreement that’s more beneficial to the U.S. There are unseen impacts that those tweets are having that’s causing adversaries and others to take courses of action that we want them to take, or to refrain from taking.

          It’s painfully obvious that you don’t read the president’s tweets, don’t read his statements, don’t read current events related articles, etc. I’ve read his tweets, his statements, as well as followed the information related to the Middle East and other areas.

          Helpful Medal: Here’s a fucking idea:

          A reading of your replies shows that you have absolutely no idea about what you’re talking about. Consequently, you’re getting your ass shoved down your throat… Again. You must love the taste of your ass, given your failure to learn from your mistakes. The more you do things like this, the more you show us how masochistic you are.

          Helpful Medal: let’s make it so Iran stops fucking with oil shipping and bombing Saudi oil fields?

          There are three ways that could be done.

          1. That could easily be done by doing exactly what the Iranians want us to do… To enter an arrangement that benefits them big time at the same time that it serves as a disadvantage to their neighbors, our allies, and to us. This later option would rightfully get us to be seen as weak and would embolden Iran to use similar tactics in the future to get their way.

          2. What we’re doing right now. Putting them in a money hurt locker. At the end of the day, they’ll want to save their money train.

          3. Destroy their military, to include their capability to lob their attacks and to harass shipping. The Saudi’s were attacked. It’s up to them to come up with a response. At this point, as with the downing of the drone, a retaliation that risks killing civilians in response to an attack that destroyed infrastructure would play right into Iranian hands.

          The more ideal course of action is what we’re doing right now.

          Helpful Medal: Oh, we gotta 3D chess it, huh?

          The fact that you have absolutely no clue about how things are playing out on the strategic level shows that this is indeed the equivalent to playing 3D Chess.

          As I mentioned in the other thread, I recognize some of the concepts of his actions from when I played chess on a regular basis… Keeping the opposition off balance about what you’re going to do… Even making them think that you’re gunning for one objective when you’re after another… Otherwise, carry out a strategy that they don’t realize you’re carrying out until their on their way to being checkmated.

          Helpful Medal: Yea, I thought so.

          I’m sorry, but you’re not doing that much thinking. In fact, your actions here show that you tend to exercise piss poor judgment. You have anger issues, are hot-tempered, have control issues, and are narcissistic.

          I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve been told that you tend to create a hostile work environment. I wouldn’t even be surprised if some of the people that know you apply effort with restraining themselves from knocking your teeth out every time you open your mouth.

          Which is why you’ve been identified as someone who would be in rear detachment if you were in a unit that was deployed.

          Were you wrong when you claimed that you were deployed to Iraq? YES [ ] NO [ ]

          Copy and paste this question to your reply. Put an “X” in the box that represents your reply. Spare me any additional response you’d want to give to this question beyond a simple “X” in the appropriate box.

  2. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    It’s so damned obvious that they’ve been trying to goad us into hitting them for years, they’re that obnoxious kid in the class who HAS TO have any kind of attention he, she or it can get!

  3. Anonymous says:

    Iran: Stop chastising us or it’s war!
    America: Hurry up, we go to chow at 1630!

  4. David says:

    I was always taught that in a fight, who starts it is not as important as who ends it.

  5. AW1Ed says:

    Mr. Zarif of Iran speaks with all the credibility of NORKie Kim Jong-un.

  6. 26Limabeans says:

    They are due for a new revolution.
    Be great if they end up fighting themselves.

  7. Helpful Medal says:

    Good news! Our new SECDEF, The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, announced that the United States will be sending troops to defend their oil fields from future attacks.

    I’m so glad we have President Good Brain on the job to help us navigate the extremely complex and intense world of international diplomacy.

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