Army to add 8 weeks to infantry training
Military.com reports that infantry training for new soldiers in that specialty will be extended by two months from the current four-and-a-half weeks to more than 12 weeks;
Currently soldiers in infantry OSUT go through nine weeks of Basic Combat Training and about 4.5 weeks of infantry advanced individual training. This would add an additional 8 weeks of advanced individual training, tripling the length of the instruction soldiers receive in that phase.
“It’s more reps and sets; we are trying to make sure that infantry soldiers coming out of infantry OSUT are more than just familiar [with ground combat skills],” Col. Townley Hedrick, commandant of the Infantry School at Benning, told Military.com in a June 21 interview. “You are going to shoot more bullets; you are going to come out more proficient and more expert than just familiar.”
I’m an advocate for more training – more training means less bleeding. The extra training time means that soldiers arriving at their units will be better prepared for deployments sooner.
With 22 weeks of infantry OSUT, “you can see right off that bat, we are going to have a hell of a lot better soldier,” [Col. Kelly Kendrick, the outgoing commander of 198th Infantry Brigade at Benning] said. “I will tell you, we will produce infantry soldiers with unmatched lethality compared to what we have had in the past.”
The new pilot will start training two companies from July 13 to mid-December, Kendrick said. Once the new program of instruction is finalized, trainers will start implementing the 22-week cycle across infantry OSUT in October 2019.
I don’t know when infantry training went to 4 1/2 weeks, it was 8 weeks for me back in the Jurassic Epoch.
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11B Option 40 will be a 33 week pipeline, not counting a Holiday exodus.
Sounds like the Royal Marines Commandos.
4 1/2 weeks ha ha ha…what a frigging joke! You damned right they need to add 8 more weeks! shyt are they training them to be librarians or soldiers? I can’t remember what I had in 1959 in the Navy in SDiego, it was either 12 weeks or 16 weeks, the memory is the second thing to go! 😉
Mein Gott ein Hummel!!!!! Will the insanity ever end?
My god, a bumblebee? I think you mean “mein Gott im Himmel!” 😉
Oh shit that’s funny! Ranks right up there with “I am a jelly donut”.
Mine Got Mine Hummer!!
The initial class with the 23 week cycle is already underway at 2-58 (one of the two female integrated units). We were told that the rest of Sand Hill would be going to this by next year. From what I understand, after the first nine weeks, things will be similar to AIT in non-OSUT units. Weekends will be downtime at the commander’s discretion, which should afford the Drill Sergeants some much needed relief. My time there is over, so I won’t see this, but suffice to say that even the 14 week cycle drains most of us.
I asked you thins on another post but cannot remember which one so I apologize for asking again.
When were you in TOG?
I was in Alpha from September ’04 to December ’08. Headed back next month.
Roger.
I was CINC Guard 98-02.
Third Herd, Black Sheep!
I spent my last couple of years in 3rd Plt, first as a CTL for Standard Honors and then as NCOIC. I started in 1st, which was the primary CinC Guard element while I was there (a lot of 2nd and 3rd Plt guys weren’t issued the CinC Guard uniforms unless they had started in 1st Plt like I had…we were the fillers when 1st needed extra bodies) and moved to 2nd for about a month or two, just enough time to learn Firing Party but never actually fire in ANC. I also ran the Arms Room for a year or so, managing to keep unaccompanied access when I moved to 3rd to get Squad Leader time.
I was hoping to go back to Alpha, but the TOG Liaison on Sand Hill made a call and found I’m projected to head to 1st Battalion. They started restructuring when I was on orders for recruiting, with Alpha, Honor Guard Company, and the Specialty Platoons going to 4th, while the regular companies comprise 1st Batt.
How much of that will be SJ seminars and slide shows?
That is my concern as well…although I hope this isn’t as much the case with Mad Dog/CHAOS at the helm.
I was thinking the same thing. If it’s more field work, land nav, tactics, shooting, and other infantry training, then go for it! We don’t need any more PowerPoint marathons or SJ yak yak sessions. These are soldiers, not social workers!
Death By PowerPoint….
If they have any sense at all, that SJ stuff has been trashed, as it should be.
Looks like you get your wish.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/25/army-training-focus-battlefield-skills-not-social-/
If you have been keeping up with current events you would know a lot of that stuff has been dumped in the trash or turned in to “one and done” instead of annual unit requirements. Mattis has been taking a hammer to it or allowing the services to take a hammer to it. Basically if it isn’t congressionally mandated it gets tons of scrutiny.
There is still too much of it but it is going away.
yaaaaay!
Cool.
Back in 1959 I went through eight weeks of basic at Fort Carson followed by eight weeks of advanced infantry training at Fort Dix. Shipped halfway across the country to continue infantry training!
Today’s OSUT concept makes much more sense.
Hope there will be a revamping of the training in the other branches.
Marines will one up them to 9 weeks.
I have a feeling the tempo and living conditions is vastly different in the Corps so although they only do 59 days that is enough. I know when I went through the 52 day cycle it was rough with basically a 2nd bootcamp style while they wore you out physically to the point you were trying not to fall asleep whenever you were stationary. Doing that shit for 22 weeks would be crazy.
Is it true we had a pregnant Ranger candidate get booted from Ranger school.
Sung to the melody of the classic Sinatra tune….
“Rangers in the night
Exchanging glances
Wondering if it’s right
What are the chances, we’d be making
love”…
Damn that is long. I can only imagine the tempo and conditions between army ITB and marine ITB are vastly different.
That;s just about enough time to complete all the Army SJW propaganda that’s required….for that year anyway.
Great idea.
dayamm…shoulda known you cynical fukkers woulda beat me to that comment by a longshot. lol
Gee whiz, the Army trained me to be an RA Infantry officer in five weeks, but we had to go to Ranger School thereafter. The non-RA IOBC was 9 weeks. Of course, we had been subject to four years of military training in ROTC. including a six week summer training at Ft. Lewis. I realize warfare is a little more tech and complex, but 21 weeks to learn to be a trigger puller, etc. seems a bit much, but maybe there will be quite a bit of cross training on all the current infantry weapons systems.
Hope its not 8 weeks of prevention of sexual harassment, EEO, love thy foxhole mate but don’t hit on them, and other PC crap. When I attended Air Police School in 58′ we had bayonet training. Do they still teach that anymore?
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8 weeks BCT at Ft Lost in the Woods then another 8 weeks 11B training at Ft Polk LA, the Gem of the original City of light, Paris, France of the US Army…
Otherwise known as Ft Puke to the rest of us…
I got my first experience of salmonella food poisoning at Ft Puke…
Oh yes, those were the days !!!