Shannon Faulkner; Stolen Collegiate Valor

| March 6, 2018

Shannon Faulkner spent two years in a legal battle with The Citadel. She joined the Corps of Cadets on August 15, 1995 accompanied by US Marshals and the media after the US Supreme Court ruled that Virginia Military Institute had to accept women in their ranks or forfeit US tax dollars.

Faulkner clearly wasn’t prepared for the rigors of cadet life, she obviously thought that the court order would carry her through her four years. She lasted four hours on her first day before she went to the infirmary and six days later she resigned. In a 2012 interview, Faulkner said that a cadet threatened her parent’s lives causing her to quit.

Well, according to the Post and Courier she spoke at the Citadel this last weekend;

“I enjoyed being a member of The Citadel family. I do consider myself a Citadel alumni,” she said at a symposium on the life and legacy of the late South Carolina novelist Pat Conroy. “This is my school as much as anybody else’s. I won’t talk badly about the school and what it represents because I believe in it.”

Yeah, no, you were there for four hours. You had an historic opportunity, but you squandered it.

Nancy Mace, the actual first female graduate of The Citadel, addressed Faulkner on her Facebook page;

She doesn’t wear The Ring because she didn’t earn it. And she sure as hell ain’t my mother. That’s an insult to my mother. And in the hearts of most #Citadel graduates — she’s not alumni. There is no edification or achievement in her failure.

Anyone watching the incessant news coverage of the event could tell that Faulkner wasn’t going to make it. Instead of preparing herself for entrance into The Citadel she conducted pastry assaults on her mom’s kitchen.

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thebesig

Shannon Faulkner; Stolen Collegiate Scholar

There. Fixed that for you. :mrgreen:

BlueCord Dad

Wow, a “six day wonder”. Coming back for her second serving of fifteen minutes of fame.

IDC SARC

Naughty gurl….I’d hit it.

Claw

So would I. With a big rolling pin.

Looks like she turned into a flour girl 23 years later.

IDC SARC

sometimes ya just wanna ride the waves

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Them chubby girls is always grateful and you can usually get a good meal afterwards…

It’s like riding a moped, it’s fun it’s just embarrassing when your friends catch you on one…

HMC Ret

VOV: How about giving a brother a head’s up. I had coffee dripping down my face.

John Seabee

Geeze VOV… I hope those are tears of mirth running down my leg.

UpNorth

Damn, VOV… Same problem as HMC, my after dinner coffee was just wasted.

Commissioner Wretched

VOV … where do I send the bill for a new keyboard? I should know better than to read this stuff when I’m drinking a Diet Coke.

A Proud Infidel®™

I bet you’d fill her up until she had a runny nose!

Mick

‘She doesn’t wear The Ring because she didn’t earn it.’

KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

Shack!

(Passing this story on to my Citadel grad buddies)

HMC Ret

Wouldn’t fit, anyway.

A Proud Infidel®™

Is she running for Office or just whoring for attention? I say let IDC SARC have at her!

26Limabeans

I spent more time touring West Point as a visitor in 1959 than she spent enrolled at the Citadel.

When do I get to a make speech to my class?

A Proud Infidel®™

During my three years of AD I spent a month up at West Point as part of the Summer Training Cadre along with a bunch of other AD Soldiers and NCOs from various posts. We were basically teaching summer camp to Cadets between their Plebe and Yearling years, I was at West Point more than FOUR TIMES LONGER than that attention-whoring COW but you’ll NEVER hear me claim to have been a Teacher there!

Slick Goodlin

Wear Point Summer Camp. Did the same thing with the 101st Airborne in 1973. Fantastic way for a young trooper to work and play in a great area. Only downside our CO got inibriated one evening and fell to his death walking on a high stone wall on main post.

Sapper3307

I remember watching her puss-up display for news before she went, it was beyond Air Force style bad all four of them.
One tubby tubby
two tubby tubby
three tub- and done!

Sj

TSO to the courtesy phone please. I AM an alumni. Spent 4 years there. A lawyer friend grad (not TSO) has a toilet seat framed in his office that he swears is one she sat on in the short time she was there.

Graybeard

So, she spent 4 hours on the Citadel Throne and considers herself an alumni? Seems logical. /s

IDC SARC

I spent a week at the Naval Academy. Anchors away bitches…time to to update the CV.

not

borderbill (a NIMBY/BANANA)

Sj–You are NOT an alumni. I’m bettin’ you’re an alumnus- as am I. We are alumni. Weren’t an English major either, were ya?

sj

Nah…Business Admin, and never had a need to buy some Gold Stars either. But I’m in good company: Bill Hartzog was a classmate and English major. He didn’t know if he was going to graduate until the night before. He went on to 4 stars!

USAFRetired

sj you have something in common with the current III MEF Commander, he’s Business Admin as well, while the current Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps was a EE. Both my classmates and much more successful than me. But I spent my time in Byrd Hall

Scout706

Alumnus. Or alumna.

Sapper3307

Follow the link its a huge momma still.

Ex-PH2

Six days she lasted? Wow. It’s a tough row to hoe to last that long. It must hurt to realize that she’s a bigger sissy than Manning.

Flagwaver

I see what you did there… ha haaaaaaaa

A Proud Infidel®™

John Giduck lasted almost TEN TIMES as long as she did!

Dustoff

All I remember about her is how out of shape she looked (overweight) in the TV news reports. I thought to my self: ” Does the Citadel have a fat boy(girl) program?”

USAFRetired

I don’t remember if it was 2016 or 2017, but a couple Seniors who couldn’t pass the PT test were prohibited from walking across the stage to get their diplomas.

I don’t remember if they were barred from the graduation pass in review or not.

Mick

Here are a couple of intriguing questions.

Why was Shannon Faulkner invited to return to The Citadel to give a speech?

Why would anyone at The Citadel give a shit about anything that Shannon Faulkner may have to say?

Sj

^^Word^^

Mason

That’s the question.

Why would they let her back to speak? I would expect better of such a fine institution. This makes it look like the SJWs have taken over even there.

A Proud Infidel®™

That’s like West Point allowing a flaming commie to graduate uuuhhhhm, never mind.

OWB

Great minds, and all that.

Whose thought this was a good idea, and are they still there???

Not gonna worry about this one iota, though. I have full faith in the for reals Citadel alums to take all appropriate action.

IDC SARC

She was probably there stressing the fact that it’s never too early to quit. lolz

2/17 Air Cav

My question exactly. She was invited, which explains to me why she pulled the crayons out to recolor her thoughts about the place.

OldManchu

Attention whores just keep on whoring.

Graybeard

Darn it – you think you’ve got all the categories of Stolen Valor and they go and invent another type of fool.

This, however, only rates a Level 1 in the 9 Levels.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

PHOTO CAPTION … what is going through Cadets mind …

“Oh, shit, it is her, why me”, asked the Cadet as the former VMI flunky approached.

“God, I really wish it was someone else, like Colon Powell, Ollie North … anybody other than this POS”.

“Lord, forgive me for having to shake her hand”.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

I meant The Citadel, sorry.

Terry

Hey, she still had more military service than Clinton and Obama combined. Funny how she said she wanted to go to the Citadel but really wanted to go to her version of the Citadel.

11B-Mailclerk

“Go to” is not the same as “be a part of”.

SSG D

Got more time than trump too. If you’re gonna point fingers, point them at everyone

11B-Mailclerk

Well, if you are going there, Trump did attend New York Military School. That is greater than Faulkner’s efforts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Military_Academy

Dtd

Citadel grad here who was here the day she quit, she only made it to the start of lunch, I was a junior then. I never had an issue with female cadets as long as they meet the standards. Nancy and Petra are definitely my sisters, this piece of shit needs to go away.

Jay

Nancy MACE….now there is a tough ass name. She’s 100 % correct too: just like washouts at PI can not claim the title Marine, Faulkner can not claim the title Citadel Alumna.

sj

Her dad was a classmate of mine. Holder of the DSC from Viet of the Nam and member of Ranger Hall of Fame. Commandant of Cadets too. Nice guy. https://secure.citadelalumni.org/dcal/detail.php?id=95

Jay

Good grief…Faulkner has SERIOUSLY let herself go!

IDC SARC

Dayammm….where’s my sling rope?

Sapper3307

G11-cargo chute!

Ex-PH2

Holy crap!!!

What in the blue-eyed blinkin’ world is THAT… whatever it is??

Jay, you are a big ol’ meanie for not posting a spew alert on that. Holy Hannah Miranda, take pity on us mere mortals, willya? That’s just mean!!!

rgr769

I’m thinking you will want to retract that “I’d hit it.” Either that or you will need a four foot piece of 2′ X 4′ to go with that sling rope.

Tony180A

IDC SARC make sure you leave a 5 point contingency plan in case she tries to eat you…and not in the good way.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Pat Conroy has not been seen for years, it is rumored that Shannon Faulkner ate him and washed it all down with a bucket of mayonnaise and vanilla ice cream.

Editors Note: No real mayonnaise or ice cream was wasted in the crafting of this sarcasm.

Sparks

LMAO!

Sapper3307

And a diet coke!

Mason

Don’t get too close to that whale. If you do, you might get rammed by Greenpeace.

Skyjumper

“There she blows!”

Reasonably sure those words have been said near her presence one time or another.

Would it be to harsh to say “Schwanzlutscher”?

1. Two paper bags (one with mouth hole)
2. Darkness
3. Alcohol

Some assembly required.

Combat Historian

Golly! She looks like Mama Cass in that photo, except even fatter…

FatCircles0311

Bring me the wookie……

ಠ_ಠ

IDC SARC

**snort**

mattinnc

lol

Ex-PH2

I’ve lost 45 pounds over the past two years.

Now I know where it went.

Good grief. What. A. Porkbutt.

Sparks

It’s gonna be a LAPES drop boys!

A Proud Infidel®™

GOOD GRIEF, she could be a Stunt Double of “The Blob” and she looks like a highly experienced Buffet Assault Commando as well!

timactual

No, she didn’t let herself go, she became “all that she could be” (we hope).

Funny how that desire for a military lifestyle vanished so quickly. A great pity there wasn’t another path to a military career. Every Army needs a Sgt. Schultz.

Duane

She became “all you can be” at the “all you can eat” local buffet.

UpNorth

When the SJW’s in Hollyweird do her biographic movie, they can cast Melissa McCarthy as her. It’ll be a short pic though, about 6 minutes long.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Is this a first Citadel alumni poser? If so, you Seal posers now have more competition at the TAH starting gate. Of course, she can’t be from you know where because that State is reserved for the Seal posers and a few other Spec Op posers.

CPT11A

Does anyone else have a hard time believing that potential officers would threaten this woman and her parents to such an extent that she would quit?

I might not be a graduate of a senior military college, but I am an infantry company commander so I definitely know what it’s like to be in an all-male environment. And if, one day, due to the laws of this country, whether I agree with it or not, a female PL shows up in my command, I’m simply going to treat her like everybody else.

This was 1995, not 1795. I simply do not believe a Citadel cadet in that year, a person who would likely now be a field-grade officer in the United States military, would stoop to the level of threatening some random woman for trying to join their ranks.

sj

Well, in the early 60’s we were a bunch of Neanderthals so I could see some harsh words being exchanged. The ones that I admire were the first Blacks beginning in ’66. That took some balls. But, as you say, she was in the 90’s and things had changed significantly.

Graybeard

Now we are just Neanderthals in suits?

Mason

Inside four hours? Not a chance.

Did she even make it to a classroom in those four hours? I assume they do a boot camp week or two for first years.

Somebody yelled at her and made her do a pushup or flutter kick and she rang the bell.

USAFRetired

new recruits show up on a Monday. There were no pushups etc until after Wednesday night “Hell Night” when the 4th Class system went into effect. There was some yelling and probably some cussing and name calling.

On the subject of name calling,Pat Conroy’s book The Lord’s of Discipline ostensibly about The Citadel was published while I was attending. There was a pre publication excerpt published in a literary review (Playboy or Penthouse i can’t remember which) But I almost fell out of my rack laughing when I read it. The line that caused me to laugh hysterically went something like this. Will, whats a douchebag? I don’t know but I’ve been told I bear a strong family resemblance to one.

The Other Whitey

Her story sounds like the standard “never my fault” fantasy of an extra-special snowflake who refuses to own the fact that she couldn’t hack it.

Some Guy

I absolutely have no problem imagining the adversity she might have faced as the first female. What you’re forgetting is that, potential future officer or not, cadets are still 18-22 years old, i.e. the same age as most Privates and Specialists. Take a look at that population and you’ve got a pretty good picture of what cadets are like, except, in most cases, with an added sense of superiority due to being at a prestigious institute with centuries of history and tradition. Mix this with a history of continuing family legacies (many have alumni family members) and gate-keeping and you can expect that she and other “pioneers” faced some absolutely heinous hazing when a non-traditional group tried to join. AFAIK, very few of the first black/female/XYZ cadets actually made it to graduation.
For a personal perspective, I graduated from Norwich in the 2000s and they allowed women sometime in the 70s or 80s. And yet there still was this sense pervading the corps that women were inferior and unwelcome as cadets. Not openly to their faces, of course. But behind closed doors many male cadets wouldn’t hesitate to reveal their true sexist attitudes.
VMI and the Citadel were the last ones to fully integrate, so I can see how that mentality would stick around much longer.
Now all that being said, lasting only 4 hours is nothing to be proud of, regardless of the adversity she faced. I can’t imagine wanting to associate myself with an institute I couldn’t last a week in all these decades later.

timactual

“Does anyone else have a hard time believing that potential officers would threaten this woman and her parents to such an extent that she would quit?”

Evidently all it took was exposure to beefaroni. Someone probably told her that beefaroni and worse would be a staple of her diet in the Army and Wham, Bam, Thank you Maam! she was out of there.

SSG Kane

Reminds me of the first female Green Beret, Katy Wilder.

She could just never let it go.

Doc Savage

If Honey Boo Boo had another mother….

E4 Mafia For Life.

Just got a picture in my mind of Honey Boo Boo with her hand in a Costco sized container of Crisco and Mama June elbow deep in a 55 gallon drum of mayonnaise.
I don’t understand how people could watch that crap.
Not sure if it’s worse/better than the kardashians.

timactual

“Mitosis is a type of cell division in which one cell (the mother) divides to produce two new cells (the daughters) that are genetically identical to itself.”

More than enough mass available.

FatCircles0311

Why would they invite such a loser to speak? Seriously I’m more upset at the dickheads that decided that was ok than some fat ass loser lying. What a shitshow. That woman is an embarrassment.

Carlton G. Long

Concur

OWB

Dang. Had forgotten all about her. That is probably exactly what motivates her claim.

While it is up to those who actually have a history with the Citadel to decide, shouldn’t you need to make it to lunch on the first day to even claim to have attended?

There really is no shame in having tried something only to discover that you can’t do it. Guess you’d have to have a “better to have tried and failed than never to have tried” attitude for that to work.

FatCircles0311

Failing and quitting are two different things. One involves not meeting a standard the other involves being a pussy.

sj

^^ Never heard that before. Profound! Thanks

Graybeard

Excellent point.

OWB

That, too, can be a fine line. With some age on me I decided to try something I had always wanted to do. When it became obvious that I was just too old and beat up to expect ultimate success, I quit trying. So, yes, I quit. Still, I am only embarrassed that I didn’t have sense enough to figure that out first. What I do not feel is shame for having tried. Embarrassed? Yep.

Guess my point is that I don’t feel bad for trying, but I certainly do not claim to have done any more than that. Mostly, I don’t even claim to have tried. What would be the point?

Reaperman

Well, at least this story got me to look up Nancy Mace has done with her life since, and that improved my day a bit.

1610desig

Too bad she didn’t graduate and get a Naval Commission….as BB-66

Atkron

Lord…I’d hate to see that UNREP.

Sparks

Wow! She’s a big un!

HMC Ret

Looks to me that the black cadet with whom she is trying to shake hands has a smirk on his face.

A Proud Infidel®™

I noticed that, It’s kind of a “THANKS for using me as a photo prop, now go the hell away!” look.

Atkron

Turd that was flushed, but just won’t stay down.

All I can think of when I see the photo at the top, and the news clip in the comments is the Jelly Doughnut scene from FMJ.

Ex-PH2

Like others of you, I’d forgotten about this bad joke, but unfortunately, she’s turned up again, looking for more attention. And for what? She’s done nothing except gain about 200 pounds. Yes, I’m SURE that’s a medical condition called ‘black hole in stomach’, but there’s only so much for which the laws of physics can be held accountable.

Why would she pop up out of nowhere now, like an uninvited gopher in your yard? Probably thinking of running (or slogging) for office – something like that. If she couldn’t hack even less than a week (really, she quit after 4 hours), how would she have done in any recruit training setting where you have to measure up?
Simple. She wouldn’t have made it through the first five days of 1960s USMC(w) boot camp or WAVES boot camp, either. She’s a putz and she knows it, but I’m sure she’ll be seen more and more often from now on.

USAFRetired

I graduated from the same High School in Beaufort SC as Pat Conroy, having attended the same Catholic Church in Beaufort. One of Pat’s younger brother was my classmate. Where Pat’s father was a Colonel, my father was a Master Gunnery Sergeant both assigned at various times to MCAS Beaufort. Both areburied in the Beaufort national Cemetery. Fast forward a few years and I attended and graduated from The Citadel as a member of the Corps of Cadets. At the time I became a Life Member it was called the Association of Citadel Men, now it is called the Citadel Alumni Association (CAA). I am still a Life Member. According to the bylaws of the CAA, to be eligible for membership in the Association you must meet the following criteria. You must have graduated from the school, or those be someone who left the school before graduation due to National Emergency as determined by the Board of Visitors, or ex-cadets who have completed their freshman year. No person shall be accepted for membership whose attendance as a student was terminated in other than honorable circumstances. So in the case of Shannon Faulkner. She did NOT graduate from The Citadel. Shannon Faulkner did NOT leave the school for a national emergency. Shannon Faulkner did NOT complete her freshman year. Shannon Faulkner is not an Alumni of The Citadel. In fact classes had not even started when she left the school before her first week of the training cadre was complete. So she never attended classes as a student member of the South Carolina Corps of Cadets. While Nancy Mace is technically the first female graduate of The Citadel, she only spent 3 years there. Entering as one of the other four women who entered with then Cadet Mace was Petra Lovetinska a citizen of the Czech Republic. She became only one of five people in the history of the United States who have received their citizenship as a special Act of Congress and shares that honor with Mother Theresa, William Penn, Winston Churchill, and Raoul Wallenberg. Following her four years at… Read more »

Sparks

USAFRetired, thank you Sir. You hit that nail on the head and countersunk it!

Sparks

If she cut back to a couple of pork roasts a day, she could claim SEAL status in a few years.

Graybeard

Elephant SEAL.

sgt. vaarkman 27-48th TFW

no she’s a secret manatee mama a special kind of spec ops specialist that eats a special diet rich in FAT & CARBS so they can withstand those cold water/weather conditions on those secret free buffet missions

NormanS

I spent more time as a W.O.C. at Fort Wolters, Texas; and I am most definetely NOT an alumni of the Warrant Officer Flight Training program.

Non Cedo Ferio

My Aunt married Edward R Lesesne. Whose family the may gate at the Citadel is named for. Joined the Marines. Then the Army joining Special Forces and serving with MacV Sog in Vietnam. Two time Silver Star awardee. He passed away little over 2 years ago at age 75. I’m sure he’d prob have a lot to say about Ms Faulkner and her bogus claims . He was one of the biggest inspirations for me joining and encouraged me to do so. When I saw him last in the 80s when he and my Aunt split up. Rip. Green Beret

Non Cedo Ferio

Forgot to add the five bronze stars and three Purple Hearts

rgr769

MACVSOG units, anyway the teams that went into harms way, had the highest casualty rates of any US units in the Vietnam War.

Non Cedo Ferio

Thanks for the correction, if I mention a Unit I should try and get the acronym right. He was a helluva guy. When I supported 5th Group in Iraq. I mentioned him and a few guys had heard of him. Spent a lot of time living in Panama where he lived on a boat. My Aunt said that the things he saw and the friends he lost really haunted him.

rgr769

If you want to read the history of MACVSOG and its missions, get Major John Plaster’s book on its history. It was available in paperback.

rgr769

You can find a used copy online for less than five bucks. Nobody is likely to buy the companion photo book, used it is over $275.

rgr769

P.S. MACVSOG stands for Military Assistance Command Vietnam Studies and Observation Group. Except it did a lot more than “study and observe.”

Non Cedo Ferio

Thanks for the heads up on the book. I’ll def check it out. They must have been chock full of badassery. I’m guessing they were prob doing a lot of CIA related missions too. My best friend is retired Special Operations. I think I’ll score him a copy of the book as well

rgr769

If you read the book, you will find that MACVSOG took over all cross border ops from the CIA in I believe 1966 or ’67. That is one reason Lurch Kerry’s story of infiltrating CIA agents into Cambodia via his 55 foot Swift boat is completely bogus.

rgr769

Not really after 1967. I met some CIA types there and after I came back. I was not impressed.

A Proud Infidel®™

To me, the Citadel asking her to speak is akin to some high school asking a dropout who makes a living as a Trashman or Janitor come speak versus some Alumni who graduated and went on to accomplish something. I wonder if Shannon Faulkner expected to skate by being the CItadel’s first Female Cadet and she just couldn’t handle the reality of being there?

Mason

API, give her a break. She was a trailblazer. The FIRST female to ever DOR from the Citadel! Without her, other women cadets wouldn’t know that they could leave before lunch.

OWB

Now, API, the Trashman or Janitor who earns an honest living has indeed accomplished something. 😉

Success in life has a lot of faces. Success isn’t measured by wealth or power.

Actually, Shannon may be living a successful life, but how whatever she has done since failing to make it as a cadet should inspire current cadets is a mystery.

Maybe she was advertised as what not to do?

A Proud Infidel®™

I’m certain she serves well as being a bad example, Shannon Faulkner is a Citadel Alumnus like Mike Sleeper is a US Army Ranger!

Mark Lauer

I’ve walked on the campus of the University of Minnesota. Well, a little part of it.
Guess that makes me an Alumni of the U of M.

GOOOOOOO GOOPHERS!!

Hondo

But did you like their fight song? (smile)