Michael Tracey; How To Violently Prevent Trump From Taking Power
One of our friends posted this on Facebook yesterday, it’s written by this Michael Tracey fellow who wants you to know that he doesn’t support the idea of violently preventing Donald Trump from assuming his office – the office to which he was Constitutionally elected – but he wants to tell you how you can do it. His naivete in regards to the application of force is almost cute;
If I took this view of Trump, and was able-bodied, here’s what I’d do to prove that I actually believe my own rhetoric, rather than just spout alarmist nonsense for political effect.
I’d assemble armed resistance brigades in and around states that voted for Trump. I’d make sure the participants are well-trained in urban combat. I’d do drills. I’d ensure that secure communications have been established to enable inter-state coordination. I’d impart to participants that they should be prepared to face severe state punishment for their rebellious acts—?perhaps even death.
The plan would be as such. The brigades would position at Republican state capitals (Harrisburg PA, Lansing MI, Raleigh NC, etc.) where the Electoral College is due to meet on December 19. I’d make sure every Elector expected to vote for Trump is identified. The night of December 18, the brigades would forge a blockade at the various state capitol buildings. Electors identified as Republican and/or Trump supporters would be physically prevented from entering, if necessary by lethal force. It’s possible that Electors would scramble to meet someplace other than the state capitol building; the resistance must take precautions to ensure this does not happen, possibly by physically restraining the Electors, imprisoning them, or worse.
If this is carried out successfully in enough Republican state capitals, Trump will fail to receive the requisite 270 electoral votes, and the election would be decided in the House of Representatives. Who the hell knows what would happen at that point.
I don’t know where he’d find any volunteers who are “well-trained in urban combat” – is there a Craig’s List category for that? And how would he “make sure” that they were well trained? I’m sure Michael’s military training is on par with my underwater basket-weaving skills.
I’m pretty sure training a brigade of stank-ass hippies would be noticed especially when they all show up at Starbucks for their hourly breaks from training. They’ll need firearms – too bad about those background checks and waiting periods before buying guns, huh? Maybe they can take advantage of the gun show loop holes.
Again: I don’t support the enactment of this plan. In fact, I vigorously oppose it. However, if I took the extreme view of Trump that so many in our media class do, I’d see it as morally obligatory.
Translation; If you try this and the plan fails, I don’t want the blame, but if it works, I totally thought it all up on my own.
Category: Dumbass Bullshit
Does he not believe that the whole process would be suspended pending the release of the Electoral College delegates? None of this would have any effect on the process other than delay it. In order to finalize the election, all of the delegates must submit their vote.
I’m pretty sure this would be tantamount to Treason, as it would equate to a violent overthrow of the duly elected government.
Sedition, actually.
Yeap…treason – in common parlance, as opposed to a legal term of art – means to betray the lawful Government to a hostile foreign power during wartime. Sedition, IMO, means to subvert a lawful Government.
Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.
I would use the term “insurrection.”
Does that simple minded ass hole have a death wish?
Nice Electoral College you have there. Shame if something happened to it.
Didn’t they hang Mary Surrat for less than this?
Just sayin
Step one: assemble “urban combat brigades”
Step two: ???
Step three: Profit!
I thought of that when I read it yesterday. The underpants gnomes are teh awesome.
Now how the hell would these special snowflakes that piss their pants at the sight of a fire arm pull this off?
Bring it the fuck on!!!!!
Who was that NYDN dipshit, Gertz Kuntzman or some such shit?
It’d be funny to see an armed resistance brigade made up of guys like that. They’d all check into the psych ward during BRM.
Gersh, as in, almost, Gush. And, that’s what they’d do.
Can anyone imagine our own rock-climbing hero, Joe, volunteering for the Boulder,Co. “armed resistance brigade”?
Being that I live in Boulder County, you would have to form these brigades at the pot store.
But once formed, what would they do other than look at each other and say something like “DUDE, like, buy me a pizza and I’ll… like,… split it with you!”
Thank God i live south east of Boulder, I can guarantee that none of these brigades would make it to my neck of the woods, but it sure would be amusing to watch on TV. And i agree with Charles, the only place you could get that many people would be at a pot shop. Or maybe one of those stores that sell the jeans to make those ” guys” look like they stole them from their little sisters…
Kuntzmans wiki page was being altered until JUL when they put a “block” or some shit on it. The alterations were hilarious. The block was lifted in OCT and sure enough the alterations continued.
Need I say more?
http://www.okshooters.com/attachments/kunzman-jpg.57142/
In Michigan we have a combat arms Brigade in the Guard chock full of multi deployment combat Veterans who are trained and equipped as the State’s RRF
They’d enjoy the play date
Backed up by an entire MP Brigade
Wouldn’t go so well for them in Michigan
Not just Michigan, plenty of other States have units that deployed to the ME and I’m sure those Vets would have a “BRING IT BITCHES, LET’S PARTY!!” kind of attitude toward those proglodyte snowflakes.
Shit it’s deer season in Texas. They would be wise to take this state off the list.
LOL – just what I was thinking OldMan!
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962). Pretty sure that pretty much covers the response 🙂 .
Except Commander-in-chief 0 might support this movement. I don’t think he has ever taken this or any oath seriously.
Best part is that Guard take an amended one adding in the Governor – comes in handy.
I’m guessing most of these overgrown, overweight, bearded toddlers would piss their pants and start crying long before the first tear gas round was fired, no need for deadly force.
In fact, no need to call out the state police or the national guard if you see one of these “urban combat brigades” coming your way.
Instead, call out those elite Green Berets, and by that of course, I mean the Girl Scouts, who would make short work of these “urban warriors.” 😀
He’s also forgetting that deer hunters around the country have freshened their rifle skills over the last couple of months.
If a guy can take a running whitetail at 200, a waddling snowflake is no challenge.
There are many things we (the Army) may no longer do well…but crush insurgencies in urban areas is one thing we EXCEL at.
Yup, can you say DRT, DOT, DEW (Dead Right There, Dead Over There, Dead EveryWhere)?
In my State we have the most Veterans per capita of any State in the Union. 56% of the State residents also admit to owning guns. Bring it.
As a percentage of population, Alaska, Montana, Maine, Virginia, and West Virginia lead the rest, in that order. Interesting. They are all places where Veterans can stretch their legs and be left the hell alone, if they wish, places where (with the exception of half of Virginia) gov’t and political bullshit are not prized. Meanwhile, the bottom of the list includes NJ, NY, and Californicate.
I see. So what we have here can be summed up as ‘just like the Turner Diaries, but hippie’.
Is that it?
Yes but with Starbucks cups instead of guns and with hipster lumberjack beards instead of white sheets.
Yeah numbnuts didn’t think to look where NG locations are at either. Harrisburg is 20 minutes down a major highway from FT Indiantown Gap, where ohhh I dunno, the 28th Infantry division is.
Ahhh, the Bloody Bucket.
Twenty minutes on Interstate 81 through Dauphin County, sure…but if we’re talking helicopters full of paratroopers racing over at full speed, it’ll prolly be more like five minutes, maybe ten at most.
Irresponsible is probably the least of this fellow’s worries at this point…
That look on his face says “I’m not really gay, I’m just experimenting”
I’m sure there’s hordes of special snowflakes that are eager to be “trained in urban combat” in the next week. MOUT training can be done on an X-box right?
Experimenting, bullshit.
Dude is into full-blown research. (Pun intended.)
I think he has been reading Jean-Paul Sartre.
Sartre argued that if one were truly committed to revolution, one must be willing to exchange his life for the life of a member of the government one was attempting to overthrow.
Sartre advocated suicide mission assassinations, in other words.
For others, of course. The “idea men” need to keep their hands clean, so they can type, apparently.
And to avoid going to jail.
By couching their ideas as hypotheticals, and affirmatively saying “don’t actually do this in real life”, they get to de facto advocate violence, while using legal terms of art as fig leaves to avoid prosecution for incitement. In other words, using the standard for “true threats” established in the Brandenburg vs. Ohio case to incite without legally “inciting”.
The infamous New Jersey blogger Hal Turner was fairly infamous for this. He would use language such as “worthy of being killed” – this allowed him to threaten people with impunity.
In other words, Tracey here was being slick.
Slick? Nah. Cowardly. Any “clever” was an afterthought.
To be fair, without knowing anything about this guy and is views, he could be actually advocating this or he could just be using an extreme scenario to call bullshit on the “Trump is Hitler” hysteria
Yeah, it actually seems he was calling out the hysterical anti-Trumpers. I have no idea who Tracey is, but (among other things that surfaced on websearch that I couldn’t be bothered to read), he penned a rather well-done pre-election argument against supporting HRC.
Jesus Holy Christ, where to begin? I feared that Hillary Clinton, self-serving fascist that she is, would take us into another civil war. Turns out her ideologue followers are perfectly happy to do it without the bitch. And over what, exactly? Over belief in their own bullshit propaganda. Remember, Trump was no big deal until he posed a real threat to her ambitions. And how about hypocrisy? They claim to fear that he will act in exactly the manner that Clinton would have and Obama has been for the last 8 years, ruling, or at least attempting to rule, by executive fiat with no respect for the Constitution or the will of those governed. Remember how Obama said that the Constitution was “in his way?” Well no shit, Barry! You were elected President, not dictator! Hillary Clinton has a documented record of breaking the law whenever she felt like it, and these people wanted to give her the keys to the nukes! Then there’s the hypocrisy of making these claims while trying to stop Trump’s presidency after he was constitutionally elected. Well, guess what, dipshits? If you don’t like the constitutional process, there’s a constitutional process for changing the Constitution! Yes, those landed white guys way back when really did think this whole “America” thing through. If these hippies weren’t a bunch of lazy fucks obsessed with instant gratification, maybe they could try passing an amendment. Hey, if they really are the majority, then what do they have to worry about? And the calls for violence, of course. Never mind the hypocritical stupidity, how many of the idiots agitating on Clinton’s behalf know how to shoot? The overwhelming majority think guns are scary and evil. And who will oppose them? Armed police officers. Armed National Guard troops. Armed citizens who refuse to allow the Constitution to be abolished. All of whom probably don’t want to shoot anyone but will if necessary. Most of whom can hit their targets. How does this double-talking pansy-ass moron think that’s going to turn out? If this happens, I will lock and load. I took… Read more »
But in rebuttal, they will shame you on BookFace.
I might give a fuck if I had such an account–actually, no, I still wouldn’t.
Do ANY of those candyassed hipster snowflakes have any firearms and combat training or experience other than from playing video games?
Tracey will surely lead the charge with a desert eagle in each hand, just like the totally-real soldiers in “Call of Duty.”
And wait until they *TRY* to buy a firearm legally in one of their Democrat-run sanctuary cities. RUDE AWAKENING!
I hear that, haven’t most urban proglodyte-infected municipalities done all they can to drive any kind of Firearms Businesses from their turf?
Lars.
I see this guy’s self description is “roving reporter’ – think that is bullspeak for ‘unemployed bad reporter’.
Firearms? No. More along the lines of bottles, rocks, and burning trash cans. It is a shame that rubber bullets aren’t widely available to the public. It would benefit both sides by getting the point across to these losers by less than lethal means.
Actually Zip, at most gun shows, and online, it’s relatively easy to find at least rubber buckshot.. just sayin..
So who will make up these urban brigades of hardened warriors? Everyone I see bitching about Donald Trump couldn’t open a canister of Pillsburry rolls, and the mere sight of anything they object to sends them scurrying to their safe space for a group circle jerk. Do they realize that they would not be the only ones there that have access to weapons?
Kinda like a certain former resident of Bethesda, MD, who was a real Billy Badass behind a keyboard, but like a certain other assclown from Flori-duh, they kept saying they would “cometh” but never did.
He and his ilk really do not understand that what they advocate just might involve the spilling of blood and other icky stuff.
When your usual sources of victimhood are no longer working, talking about taking it to a new level must be the next step in their demented minds. Doing something still doesn’t matter to them because talking about it is all they are ever really willing to do.
OK, freeks, we can picture it now: Y’all decide to mobilize (but call it by some other much less trigger-worthy word) and can’t even figure out how to get out of your basements. Then you trip over your jammies and drop your latte. Hours later they find you huddled in your front yard still attempting to lick up the last drops of your special snowflake brew.
Yeah, we are frightened by your threats. Not frightened in the way you might think however. I am afraid of going into cardiac arrest from too much laughter.
The Left has a significant number of gun owners, veterans, and others quite capable of taking violent action if so motivated. Some of them are -very- capable opponents.
Gun control for thee, but not me, is their plan, not a contradiction. it is no way implies an unwillingness to possess weapons or use force, for the -correct- people. It is -meant- as doublethink.
Likewise, “vet” does not automatically equal “loyal to the USA and its Constitutional Republic style of government”. Some vets, sadly, are loyal only to what they believe it -should- be, not to what it -is-, what the Constitution should be -interpreted- to mean, not what it -actually- says. Some, sadly, were simply shitbags, and the Oath has neither meaning for them nor hold over their actions.
I personally know two hard-left types that are armed, trained, and quite capable of effective mayhem in service of their beliefs, should they so chose to act.
Don’t doubt for a minute that there are -significant- numbers of combat-effective lefties. You may recall that in 1861 both sides believed the other had neither the stomach for war nor the mettle to win one. The result was four years of butchery that killed or maimed one man in nine, and left half the nation in ruins.
-Do not- dismiss the threat posed by -active- lefty revolutionaries, should the dogs of war slip loose. (Or even if it is just a few armed cranks, slipping their moorings.) Think -peer competitor-. Swallow pride and engage brain. Some of them have been prepping for this possibility for decades. Some of them may be better at violent stuff than you.
it is very hard to lose a war respecting ones opponent. It is simple to lose one by dismissing ones opponent.
Not doubting that, Mailclerk. Only doubting how many of them actually lean so far wrong that they consider a Hildabeast presidency to be worth shooting someone. I know a few liberals who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the cunt, and others who did but feel that she lost fair and square.
Certainly there are a few armed lefties out there but they are outnumbered by the pants-wetting variety by a couple of orders of magnitude.
Lefties were a lot more dangerous in the 1960’s and early 70’s because there were quite a few left-leaning veterans available to them who had weapons training, a modicum of discipline and in some cases, combat experience. That’s how groups like the Weather Underground, Black Panthers and SLA were able to commit some violent acts during that time period.
But the end of the draft actually crippled the left’s ability to have any sort of trained cadre to recruit from. Sure, there are left-leaning vets out there – I’ve got a few on my Facebook feed, in fact.
But whereas during the draft era you could have up to 30 – 40% of vets leaning left or at least sympathetic to leftist causes, in the post-draft era you would be lucky to get to 10% and 5% may be a more realistic figure.
Not enough for a “revolution” when 90 – 95% of other vets are either solidly in the middle or right leaning.
This guy posts what is essentially a call to arms with the intent of preventing the peaceable, legal transfer of Presidential authority, yet WE’RE the basket of deplorables? This cannot end well.
I don’t support the enactment of this plan. In fact, I vigorously oppose it…
That’s the only thing this guy said right; it’s a lousy,fucking, fuck headed, ass clown type (A-1) plan.
The biggest drawback with his logic is the people that supported Trump are the people with guns. The people that supported Hillary have lattes with pumpkin spice.
The first one to sign up will be the reporter who got the PTSD from shooting an AR.
CUNTzman? Wow, I’m scared now!
/sarc
Guy looks angry. He’s sticking his chin out.
Eyes are half closed.
He has this strange looking nose.
I know I’ve seen that shape somewhere.
Yes, you probably have, when you’re in the shower.
Just wait for one of these dumbasses attempts to build an IED from following the instructions on the ISIS website. I have the utmost confidence that they will not master the art of converting from the metric system, resulting in the destruction of the water heater in their mother’s basement.
Darwin Awards!
We can only hope that they become a self-solving problem such as this incident:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Village_townhouse_explosion
Two words, DARWIN AKHBAR!!!
So there are lots of armed lefty hippies in majority republican states willing to band together and “if necessary by lethal force” innocent electors who are just trying to complete the task they’ve been charged with carrying out. Seems like somebody’s over thought this plan. The obvious one seems much more plausible.
Also somebody willing to disrupt the election process itself–exactly what part of America do they respect? It’s one thing not to like some guy, but why attack one of the core processes at the very heart of what America is? And what American would even want to be the president of a nation like that?
Go to his website Jonn has linked in the above article and read its comments. Not a single comment supports his loonie call to arms. Even the interweb moonbats won’t comment in support of his recommendation for sedition to stop Trump.
Just supposing that the electors decide to meet at Ft. Bragg, Camp Grayling and FIG (NC, MI and PA army bases for the uninformed)-what happens to the plan then?
After reading some of this guy’s other writings (from the link Jonn posted), I think he’s playing devil’s advocate here. I think he’s egging on the “urban combat brigades”, knowing full well what the outcome would be for those who attempt it.
A troll, in other words?
Personally I find it difficult to take anything this guy says seriously. After all, unless I am mistaken, until recently he and a friend worked a Kabuki Theater during intermission performing live sex acts with farm animals. They had a good following, especially in the cattle and pig community. However, they specialized in goat bondage for the S/M crowd. Eventually their performances faltered and they were replaced by trannies who did a takeoff on a gay Groucho Markx and George Fenneman skit.
Yep, with a history like that, how could his idea and leadership fail?
Cocksucker.
Bring it….
Yeah.
The only thing this turd could violently take is some kids nuts.
Turd.
I’ve taken the time to read all your comments. I have a few of my own. Granted, I’ve been out all day, mostly preoccupied with foraging and stocking, and of course, there is the katabatic wind coming from the west over near Walmart, an unbroken open space that bars no wind chill from freezing your ass, face and ears if you are not properly dressed for it. But I digress. As Martinjmpr says, it ain’t the ’60s and ’70s any more and the cranks who tried to foment revolution back then – Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorne and Alinsky – are either old farts or dead and buried. Yeah, they shook us up, but Ayers and Dorne ended up in jail for holding up an armored car. Now, they’re just a couple of old farts living in Hyde Park down in Chicago. Some day they’ll die and no one will pay any attention. So the real motivation that drove those people to be so destructive that Ayer and his pack of idiots blew up a city block with their pipe bomb factory is gone. Also, the weather right now is terrible. The wind chill varies from day to day and from place to place, and anyone in Michigan or Pennsylvania is likely to get frozen to the sidewalk without a shot being fired. I’m used to the cold. I had enough layers on today to frost a cake. I know how to dress for bad weather. I doubt those morons that Tracey addresses have a clue, but they will look quite fashionable while they’re being carted away for exposure and frostbite. And North Carolina is getting its own share of wretched weather with rain after rain after rain, and there is no guarantee that the weather will stay remotely above 40F for the rest of this month. It’s December, for Pete’s sake. Winter. There’s a reason you hold do somethings in the winter. If it were summer, I’d be concerned, but if this weather continues a lot of flights to those places will be canceled, anyway, and I doubt anyone… Read more »
Why yes I do Ex…..while I’m off my meds. Kinda funny how you reach a certain age and every so often you skip the meds just to see what the day will bring.
Home made brownies, some decent chili with plenty of meat, and an EXTREMELY moist red velvet cake…or at least a couple of slices. Doable???
If not I’ll just start up the meds again. However, as a testament to the Christmas spirit I work myself into so I don’t let stories like this get me down, I honestly have on of the best hand-me-down rum bundt cake recipes you’ll EVER taste. Yours ONLY if you let me know whether this statement is true.
Fresh cornbread, tortilla chips, celery, meaty chili spicy but not too hot, super-moist devil’s food cake with cream cheese frosting.
Domestic enemy.
Speed bumps on the highway to Liberty!