Monday New Stuff

| July 28, 2025

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First up- Jeff LPH sends that per the Army Times there’s new rats for the troops. Supposedly they they have trimmed down the size and weight of the ration packs so troops can carry 5 day’s worth of rations where they formerly carried 3.

The CCAR will replace the First Strike Ration and has a 39% reduction in volume and a 17% reduction in weight. That means a soldier can carry five days’ worth of nutrition in a three-day footprint.

The Army designed the ration to support small units during operations in austere environments where they needed to self-sustain for 7 to 10 days with limited or no resupply, according to an Army release. Army Times

I am sure I am not the only one noticing that indeed, carrying 5 packs of meals 61% the size is pretty much like 3 of the old ones. Note, however, the weight – 83% the weight means 5 day’s worth is over a third heavier than the 3. Not a huge increase in weight…I am sure you small unit infantry guys are eager to hump even heavier packs, right?

Smaller and lighter is better, to be sure. But we all know the Army tends to think “it’s just a little more” till the troops are carrying more weight than the classic Army mule. At least they can console themselves that it ain’t C’s.

Next up (again h/t to Jeff) the Army is starting to look for a replacement for the M240 7.62 NATO machine gun.

The replacement program, dubbed the Future Medium Machine Gun, or FMMG, is aimed to replace the M240B — which has been in service since the late 70s — for dismounted troops.

“The FMMG is a belt-fed, crew-served, direct-fire weapon system that will enable the rifle platoon to organically suppress and destroy enemy personnel targets and maintain operational tempo,” the Army wrote in its budget documents. “The FMMG will provide increased lethality and capability to the warfighter compared to present machine gun technologies fielded to operational units.”

The $3.6 billion figure encompasses research, development, acquisition and contract award costs.  Army Times II

The M240 was a few pounds heavier than its predecessor, the M60 (aka “Pig”) which was famously one-handed by bulging-bicepped Stallone and Ah-nuld. The 240’s main claim to fame was in reliability – it cost more, it weighed more, but its mean time between failures (MTBF) was several times higher than an M-60’s. Both the M240 and M60  are  chambered in the NATO-standard 7.62×51. Presumably the replacement would be chambered in the new 6.8 infantry rifle round for commonality of ammo supply. The new round has drawn some less-than-complimentary reviews, usually in comparison to the ammo load-out of the older 5.56 rounds, but also (and more relevantly) for premature barrel erosion due to the much-higher chamber pressures at which the 6.8 operates – up to 85,000 psi compared to the normal 60,000+ psi of 5.56 or 7.62 rounds. One can hope that with modern materials a lighter, cheaper (the M240 is $6,600 a copy) machine gun can be made (but we all know it won’t be.)

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And on a totally unrelated note – presumably Pogacar has won the Tour de France for the 4th time by the time you read this – one interesting note to this year’s Tour. On Stage 17 some idiot wheeled his bike out onto the course in an attempt to ride across the stage finishing line before the real winners arrived. Wanting to make a scene? Cause a little chaos? Doesn’t like Lycra? Who knows (or even cares) – BUT:  He did that, and got arrested, on July 23. I read that on Friday the 25th he got an 8-month suspended sentence and a ban from any sporting event for a year. TWO DAYS to try and sentence him… who says there is nothing the French do right. Here he’d still be awaiting trial till after the next Inauguration Day.

 

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Eggs

I’ll trade you a jalapeno cheese for the ham slice.

Skivvy Stacker

I’ll take the beans and weenies.
And don’t forget the coffee.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

“Turkey, or chicken boned”

That’s a nice way of saying we have no fucking idea what’s in this can, but we guarantee it’s some sort of poultry…

That said, still one of the favorites. I do remember the Ham and Eggs breakfast cans not being well liked during winter training up at Fort Drum during the late 70s and 80s which worked out well for me because I grew up eating all manner of organ meat thanks to my German parents and the Ham and Eggs were quite a treat…

Eating the green paint chips from the sketchy cans probably explains a lot of why I’m the way I am today…

Green Thumb

You can always ask for shelf bread to go with it.

Jimbojszz

I use to trade the yellow cake to some local kids who would bring me either two coconuts or a pineapple. Good trade for fresh food.

rgr769

In the boonies, the “birthday boy” always got the pound cake can plus the can of peaches in syrup, as his birthday treat. I was the recipient twice, as I spent my 24th and 25th birthdays humping a ruck in the jungle covered mountains of that lovely (from the air) country.

rgr769

Hey, that meal was one on my fave’s. It was more edible than the Sliced “ham” which was more like Spam, but less tasty. I once ate nothing but C-rats for three weeks in the bush in the Viet of the Nam.

Anonymous

Omlette w/ Spam!

5JC

Our wannabe racer didn’t just get arrested he got knocked out when the police pushed him off his bike. Here is a video of police dragging his unconscious body off the track. A solid case for wearing a helmet says I.

https://www.newsflare.com/video/769529/cycling-chaos-as-intruder-slammed-by-police-at-tour-de-france-finish-line?origin=shoulderbarges

Had this happened in a blue city, USA, well we all know what would have happened given the parties involved.

Green Thumb

What a fucking clown.

Play stupid games; win stupid prizes.

Sapper3307

O look an authentic pack of M&Ms from the 1984 summer Olympics.

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Sapper3307

Also.

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5JC

It’s almost like sharks can’t read or don’t even care about a sign.

11B-Mailclerk

Don’t get me started on the highway department putting deer crossings on busy roads…..

(Grin)

Jimbojszz

I saw the video of the girl questioning why they let deer cross the road in one particular spot. And why the highway dept. should move the signs to a safer crossing area. So the deer don’t get hit. Too funny!😂

MIRanger

Funny it says that the M240B had been in service since the 1970s for dismounted troops. Pretty sure it was meant to say the M240 had been in service since the 1970s and the B variant was first tested in the early 1990s. 1/75th was testing it out in 1992-1993 and fielded it fully in FY95. I remember being very upset they still had M60s when I went back to Ranger school in 1996.

5JC

I despised the M60. Lots of people said it ran great. But somehow whenever we needed it to work it never did. The 240B was worlds better.

MIRanger

It always worked great until you needed it! I don’t remember ever having issues with malfunctions from the 240B! We just had to have new pintle mounts made to fit the RSOVs. Lucky for us the BN employed an Armorer who did CNC!

jeff LPH 3 63-66

When I was with the NYARNG (1975-1977) we had the M-60’s and used them when we went up to Fort Drum for 2 weeks. I remember shooting the 60 at the red or orange barrels down range using the sights that were set so that we had to adjust them ourselves to get on target. When we did the week in the field, we all took turns carrying the “Pig” as our Viet of the Nam Vets used to call it… I scanned a pic of of myself to David of me holding the weapon. On the Ship I was on LPH-3, we had Browning 30’s onboard with all WW2 small arms. A 9 year gap that I went into the guard after leaving the ship.

Messkit

Technically, it is correct. The FN-MAG has been in service since the 1970’s with ground troops…

…just not our ground troops.

When the US adopted the FN-MG, with modifications, we called it the M240B.

BUT! It had already been standard issue with tankers since the early 1970’s, as the M240C coax in M60A2-3’s, when it replaced the gawdoffal M219.

Old tanker

Every once in a while on face book I see a post from a guy / company that is remaking C-rats and also WW1 and WW2 ration packs for folks doing re enactments who want to be ultra realistic. I’ve seen pics of the C-rats and also the ration boxes from WW2. Damn accurate and edible.

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5JC
jeff LPH 3 63-66

I see the middle box has ham mentioned but it’s missing the Lima Beans for some strange reason, which were great when they came with C’s if you had an Ex Lax bar handy.

26Limabeans

No Comment..

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Cmon Beans, I figured that you would come out with a good pun for us. Bean awhile since I heard a good one from you. Well, I’ll bean seeing you soon on the site.

CCO

Anyone else heard about the death of the security Airman on 20 July 2025 at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Wyoming? Article says M18s have been pulled and replaced by M4s (see https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/07/25/airman-killed-m18-handgun-discharge-identified-21-year-old-kentucky-native.html).

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Saw that last week.
SigSaur is trying to do a lot of gyrating to try and explain this one away that it’s not their fault.
Just gimme a 1911, any year, any make. If I do my part (proper hand grip and trigger finger placement), I trust the gun to do its part.

SFC D

And everyone said Amen.

5JC
rgr769

The ChairForce has always had problems with Airmen shooting themselves with semi-automatic pistols. Back in the 1960’s or earlier, it took the M1911A1’s away from the Air Police and replaced them with S&W .38 specials because they kept accidentally shooting themselves with the 1911’s.

In 1971, I was suprised to be handed one when I kitted up to fly back seat in an OV-10 Bronco at Da Nang AFB. IIRC, it was a Model 10. It fit in the integral shoulder holster in the survival vest. I wanted to take my 1911 or my AK underfolder, but that was a no go. Although, the pilot brought an M-16 in the cockpit, as I expressed my concern about going down in the boonies with nothing but two.38’s and twenty-four rounds of ammo between us. I did make sure my survival vest had pen flares and that signal mirror.

Jimbojszz

The USAF issued .38 spcl. was useless and they had crappy holsters too.

tavernknight

Curious that I am, what branch of service were you?

jimbojszz

USAF
Security Specialist

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Graybeard

Somehow I am reminded of a parallel from Scripture:

[Matthew 23:3-5 NIV]

So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long;…

Times and seasons change, but people are still the same. Pharisees, Pentagon Popinjays, same ol’ same ol’

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Bones

With rations, whether they be “C’s” or MRE’s in their various types, what matters is how many calories are available to feed the human furnace. I’m concerned that 5 rats taking the place of 3 rats in weight, might also be of lesser caloric value individually.

Sure you can carry more, but each is of less value.

Jimbojszz

Fat carries more calories per gram than vegetables.

7711C20

Again I am feeling old remembering c rations with beans and meatballs, chicken noodle soup, spaghetti and meatballs and somehow we got ones with canned tuna. Best deserts were pound cake or peaches.

Steve1371

Does anyone remember the story about a veteran making dinner for his girlfriend. He made it out of c rats and not long after dinner she needed the toilet really bad. Farted repeatedly loud long juicy farts? I read it somewhere a long time ago , maybe here.

fm2176

We carried our food into Baghdad back in ’03 and went nearly a week without resupply. I willing to bet those five days of food were significantly smaller and lighter than the new rations.

Three stripped MREs for 4-5 days of sustained combat operations. We had a few extra cases on the LMTV during the Ground Assault Convoy in, but we went straight to an OBJ when we dismounted. 3ID guys saw the “abandoned” MREs and helped themselves. We did get two bottles of water a day, though, just enough to fill the Camelbaks. Incidentally, I had my first (and some of my last) Red Bulls, along with some Iraqi chocolate we liberated from the snack bar in Saddam Int’l after clearing the terminal. I should still have my Saddam picture from the airport. His cult of personality had his face plastered everywhere.