CA’s Newsom slapped by the 9th
Kinda looks like he could be David Hogg’s father, doesn’t he?
As long as we are beating on California – in a piece of good news for those living in the occupied Republik of Kalifornia, the 9th Circuit ruled in a 2-1 vote Thursday that California’s ammunition background check law infringes on the rights of its citizen and remains blocked.
Governor Newsom issued a statement following the new ruling, saying: “Strong gun laws save lives — and [yesterday’s] decision is a slap in the face to the progress California has made in recent years to keep its communities safer from gun violence. Californians voted to require background checks on ammunition and their voices should matter.”
Think we would all like to see some empirical evidence that ‘strong gun laws save lives’, wouldn’t we?
The former law, although passed by voters in 2016, has been in limbo for about seven years through state and federal courts.
Read: a vastly overreaching law has been ruled invalid, appealed, ruled invalid, appealed again, and has been appealed all the way to the 9th Circuit who: ruled it invalid. Starting to see a pattern here, Gavin?
“By subjecting Californians to background checks for all ammunition purchases, California’s ammunition background check regime infringes on the fundamental right to keep and bear arms,” Judge Sandra S. Ikuta wrote in a statement for the two-judge majority decision, obtained by The New York Times. Los Angeles Magazine
Some of you older codgers may remember a time after GCA ’68 when every round of ammunition sold had to be logged at the dealer? Like if someone was killed in Kob’s town by a .45 ACP and they had no idea who pulled the trigger they could go to the books and say “aha, Kob, here’s the scoundrel!” (I know my dealer once told me I had probably bought over 50% of the .45 Colt sold in my old town once.) Only problem – most popular rounds get sold to lots of different people (imagine the poor sap trying to determine who bought the fatal 9mm bullet?) and, like gun background checks, most criminals, dumb as the proverbial post they may be, know enough to not buy their arms and ammo directly from registerable sources. I can’t remember when they stopped that silliness, maybe in the ’80s ? but I do remember reading at the time that not one crime had been solved due to those ammo registries. Not one.
But Mr. Newsom has never been one to have his opinions swayed by actual facts, is he? Anyone want to bet Kalifornia will press for an en banc decision, or even full 9th 29-judge decision on this? Or even take it to the Supreme Court?
If the 9th Circuit made a ruling that was anyway positive on something firearms related that’s a huge win
This law is merely an example of how anti-gunners are changing their tactics to infringe upon the rights of gun owners. You know, like DC’s ammunition registration law or NJ’s hollow point ban. I used to pocket carry my Kel-Tec P32 all the time and would sometimes forget it was in my pocket when making the drive from Richmond to Fort McNair on Mondays. This was before DC v. Heller, when handguns were illegal in the District, but even now a simple traffic stop would see me charged with a felony count of possessing an unregistered weapon and 15 misdemeanor counts of unregistered ammunition.
It’s simple anti-gunner logic, and CA seems to be leading the charge. Guns kill, but more importantly, certain types of guns kill. So, ban removeable magazines and other functional (and visually aesthetic) things like collapsible stocks, but keep the AR-15s legal. Mission accomplished, you can own an “AR-15” in CA, just one that’s wholly unlike the ones most of us own. Registration of ammo is the next step. No one says you can’t own it; you just have to jump through hoops to register it because we all know 5.56mm M855 ball is not only the cartridge of choice for murderers, but also extremely niche and that a few minutes scouring the registry will lead to the suspect. [sarc]
I have a feeling LAPD, LASO, and other major CA LE agencies aren’t sweeping the streets to get Hi-Points and stolen Glocks with switches out of the hands of the Bloods, Crips, and every other street gang out there. It’s much easier to target the law-abiding Californian who knows that the next legislative session could turn him into an instant felon.
You would have been given a free pass if you were part of the Mainstream Media.
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/no-gun-magazine-charges-for-david-gregory-086079
Definitely. DC has a long history of this.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/rowan-case-need-bear-arms
That would be an automatic felony charge in Commiefornia.
Don’t drive through New Jersey with a gun in your car, or you will be spending the night in a state police lockup. Even back in the 1970’s that could happen. One of our captains was driving back to Devens from Ft. Bragg and was stopped in NJ. They arrested him for his loaded Browning HiPower. The Group Commander, Col. Little had to call to get him released after he spent the night in a cell.
The idea after the GCA of 1968 was to add a serial number to all shell casings. At the time G Gordon Liddy was a Nixon appointed to the Department of Treasury to head Narcotics and Gun Control (which he said he did his best to reject all gun control).
Apocryphal, but Liddy allegedly went to the division head of the ATF (then part of the IRS) Rex Davis, and dumped a 500 round box of 22lr rounds on his desk and asked where he wanted the serial number for the billions of rounds produced annually.
The infamous 9th Circus Court of Appeals was Trumped back in -20.
Trump has flipped the 9th Circuit — and some new judges are causing a ‘shock wave’ – Los Angeles Times
More liberal overreach that even the courts are like, “Nah.”
Remember Maryland’s “microstamp” law, where every gun purchased had to have rounds fired then the casings sent to various state agencies for cataloging, etc? It cost something like $100M to implement and $50M/yr to update and maintain. Know how many murders and armed robberies were solved with the system?
If you guessed zero, you win.
But didn’t that make you feel much safer?
Never been, not now, nor do I forsee myself every being a MD resident, so I don’t give two shits.
NY, OTOH…the idiots in NYC and Albany need hammered with a clue bat.
The PDRofMD law required an expended shell casing from each “regulated” firearm sold to keep on file, regulated meaning all handguns and selected scary rifles. The idea was to link expended cases found at crime scenes to a specific firearm and thereby magically identifying the criminal. Running the program was a cool 1 million USD a year taken from the State Po-Po budget.
They managed to twist themselves into knots shoehorning one as evidence in exactly one case, and it wasn’t needed to prove guilt and convict anyway.
I had to wait a couple weeks to pick up my S&W-686 because of the law, until the shop owner could get in a range day and fire his sold weapons to provide the State its sample. Note that this is a wheel gun and doesn’t spew brass all over the countryside.
Idiots.
That goes to show that we can ALWAYS expect idiocy, incompetence and waste from Government goobers with “good intentions”!
Then many gunmakers did that fired shell casing thing on all their guns, nationwide. I purchased many a pistol from another state that had that little envelope containing a fired case. Total waste of money and resources. The law never caught a single gun criminal, according to what I read after it had been in effect for about five years.
Why are they so obsessed with undermining the 2nd amendment?
Even a quick glance at a history book would show that the 2nd amendment is one of the critical elements of American exceptionalism.
In order to properly implement socialism of course. They can’t have people resisting the process of something that will dramatically improve their lives and make everyone more equal. They gonna get it right this time too.
They want your guns because they plan to do some stuff will make the populace want to shoot them.
“…make everyone more equal.”
It’s called trickle up poverty.
China is a good example of how socialism works. The people cannot resist the CCCP. No way for the people to fight back, the citizens have been disarmed and non compliance to communist rule is reported out of fear of punishment. Everyone’s a spy for the CCCP and with modern tech, facial recognition, your movements and loyalties are monitored. Benefits and Privilege are dispensed to those that tow party line (CCCP) No firearms for the people. Which possession of a firearm, I believe carry’s a death penalty. Only the privileged few are allowed weapons, military, police, certain party members.
The 2nd A keeps us free from the democrats and their reign of terrror on this nation. IMHO
Socialism is so full of “good ideas and great intentions” that it has to be enforced at gunpoint upon a disarmed populace.
They also have their social credit score system capable of making anyone’s life miserable if they don’t completely tow the line.
I like what the little gal lawer I once worked with that emigrated from China said about her native country when I asked her why she came here. Her answer: “Because I didn’t want to live as a slave to the Communist government.” (And that was 25 years ago)
Her parents were eventually allowed to visit her, but she never went back. She married another lawer, has two beautiful half Caucasian children, and was very successful in her career.
The goobers with “good intentions” want a disarmed populace because their agenda consists of things that would get them SHOT.
Armed citizens are harder to turn into subjects.
Tyrants hate resistance.
Gun owners can resist effectively.
Therefore, tyrants hate gun owners.
QED
Reminds me of the folks who say, while watching a police chase of a STOLEN vehicle, “Why don’t they just get the license number and arrest the driver later?”
I don’t think I have to explain that to anyone here.
Now, if we could just get the judges to physically slap Newsom, preferably with a crowbar, that would be so justly deserved.
Hogg’s real daddy is a retired fan belt inspector.
Considering all things. I like President Richard Nixon way more than Gov. Newscum.
“Californians voted to require background checks on ammunition and their voices should matter.”
In this instance the governor reveals his lack of understanding of just how a Republic differs from a true democracy….Californians can vote however they want to, but the constitution still exists (for the moment at least) as a final check on preventing the tyranny of the majority to inflict its will upon the minority or the individual. The right to bear arms is not something granted by the government but is the right of every human at birth. Most governments have taken that right away completely, in the US our founding documentation prevents that from being completely stripped away even while many states attempt to remove that right from their citizens.
Our problem as a nation has been that there are far too many people who do not believe in absolutes when it comes to the protections of one’s individual rights. The “greater good” intrusions into the constitution have led us to exactly this point…where one state’s citizens view the “greater good” to be a license to strip away virtually every right we have as individuals and tax us to death in the process.
It remains a reality that California wanted background checks on ammo but kept an illegal alien locked up for only four of ten years and allowed that individual back out to kill someone.
Perhaps if they really cared about reducing violence they should consider keeping violent offenders in prison for the duration of their sentences.