Colonel Glenda Lock tried to cover up tape test

| July 9, 2015

Colonel Lock

Bobo sends us a link to the Army Times which tells the story of Colonel Glenda Lock, who in the words of her sergeant major, was a “borderline toxic leader”. She had a habit of taking her Physical Fitness test out of sight from her soldiers, but she couldn’t hide when she failed her body composition measurement which determined that she was too big for her weight (that means she’s fat). The colonel tried to find ways around being placed in the Army Body Composition Program which would make Lock ineligible for promotion, assumption of a command, bonuses, and advance or excess leave, you know, like it would any other soldier in the program.

Lock tried a workaround to avoid getting in trouble, the investigation found. The medical center’s chief of HR said in a sworn statement that Lock gave her a call later that day.

“She asked me if I could remove the flag or somehow fix it because it could not go forward,” the HR chief’s statement said.

Later, the HR chief called Lock back to confirm that the flag could not be removed unless it was erroneous, and said Lock told her, “I wasn’t asking you that; I was only trying to find out the procedures.”

The HR chief said in the clarifying statement that Lock did not explicitly order the flag’s removal, “but her intent was that the flag be removed….I perfectly understood what she was saying.” The HR chief added: “An O6 in my rating chain was asking me to do something unethical and I don’t think I should be put in that position.”

Well, eventually, Lock was relieved of her position for “poor command climate”. Now she’s the Senior Nurse Staff Officer in San Antonio. The Army won’t boot her, though, she doesn’t have to worry about that – there’s always a shortage of nurses and they’ll always make adjustments to keep a nurse in uniform.

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tc

Hey COL, here’s a work around for you…push a way from the table and do some damn PT!

desert

No problem, there is always room for FAT nurses! lol

HMCS(FMF) ret.

She’s not “fat”… she’s “big boned”… has a “thyroid condition”… “chunky”… “husky”… “weight challenged”.

Green Thumb

A breath of air and a glass of water from being overweight!

Hondo

Bluntly, this doesn’t surprise me.

This is not intended as a slam against any MC types out there – but from what I’ve seen over the years a significant portion of the Army’s doctors and nurses don’t really seem to think they’re in the military, or accept the fact that the Army’s rules and regs apply to them. (You don’t see that attitude too often among MC WOs and enlisted MC personnel, but on rare occasions you even see it in those groups too.)

Glad to see she got what she deserved. But my guess is Jonn’s right: unless things change drastically, the shortage of nurses willing to serve in the ANC voluntarily means she’ll probably serve as long as she wants to.

Hondo

Addendum: that attitude isn’t unique to the MC, either. But IMO it does seem far more prevalent there than in other branches.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

I suspect (correct me if I’m wrong) the Army makes allowances because civilian pay rates for nursing leadership roles pay better so this is a case where (again correct me if I’m wrong) the Army needs Lock more than Lock needs the Army….

I’m sure glad we’ve got guys in DC talking about much happier folks were when the military paid them less, that’s a great way to make sure no one will want to stay in the service beyond a first enlistment.

TankBoy

In 21 years in the Corps, I was always within 10 pounds of my limit. I like to eat, and my body is highly efficient at the storage of surplus energy. Having said that, from my time as an instructor at the school house, the drill field, my platoon sergeant time, my time working with Midshipmen on NROTC, and my First Sergeant time, I was always first on the scale, in front of my people. I felt it necessary for them to see that the guy that was going to hammer them for being outside the standard had met the same standard they were held accountable to. I guess basic leadership like that of leadership from the front and lead by example is not covered at the commissioning school for nurses?

Green Thumb

Some of the worst Officers and Soldiers I have ever seen have been in the MC.

Now do not get me wrong, I have seen some damn good ones, especially as the years progressed while we were in conflict. And then the shift was primarily in the Enlisted Ranks becoming better. But some of those Officers were terrible. Especially in garrison or at MTFs.

That’s what happens when you come in as a CPT or MAJ based on your civilian education. And then the kicker, after a year or so they figure out what rank is and how to use it. That is when it gets scary.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

There’s not just a shortage of nurses in uniform…if she can’t make PT but she’s capable of a leadership position in nursing for any metropolitan hospital she’ll be just fine.

It appears she wants to stay in, which is commendable. I understand the 06 pay grade is pretty damn good regardless of time in service…

I was just looking at enlisted pay rates though….kind of depressing really. The base pay of an E8 over18 years of service is 58k (4815 x 12=57780)? Please tell me there are benefits and bonuses attached to that to bring that pay up some….no wonder retention gets difficult…people keep talking about how great the military pay is, 58k with near 20 years experience in your field isn’t awful but it sure ain’t great…

Nothing Special

Housing allowance adds to that – it depends where you’re at, but that E8 with dependents would get another $19,000 a year in Columbus, GA. In San Diego, it’d be about $31,000 a year. Plus, $4,290 for Subsistence Allowance. Both BAH and BAS are non taxable as well.

Hondo

Comparing military and civilian salaries is somewhat misleading. Personnel in uniform also get either quarters and utilities gratis or a non-taxable quarters allowance. The latter varies by geographic locale, but for an E8 it’s reasonably substantial. Ditto separate rations (also not taxed, and just short of $370/mo). Add those two and you’re easily talking another $20k+ cash – or the equivalent of another $25k+ taxable income.

Medical care for self and dependents is also highly subsidized; ditto family dental (the latter is optional, but still a good deal). Out-of-pocket medical expenses are thus generally pretty low. And outside of TRICARE Prime (optional), there are zero medical insurance costs (family dental does have a monthly cost). Even TRICARE Prime is by comparison cheap – less than $50/month (approx $556/year this year).

Commissary benefits are still decent, saving a chunk on groceries. Average savings is around 15-20%. PX isn’t so good any more, though.

There’s also the ability to retire as early as age 37 with 50% of your pay, inflation protected – if you make it to 20 years of service, that is.

All in all, it’s not a bad deal financially. In some career fields, you’ll do better than your civilian counterparts; others, not so much.

But it does come with a pretty big drawback. You could get sent somewhere and get your azz shot off at any time – with no option to quit and the only ways to avoid going being go to jail or go on the run.

Bobo

BAH in San Antonio for an O6 w/o dependents is $1659 (tax free). O6 base pay at over 26 yrs is $10,738.14 (she got her BS degree in 1986). If she were smart, she made herself a TX resident while she was at her OBC, so no state income tax. So, that’s almost $150K/yr just in those two pay items.

Eric

Yeah, she’s definitely not going to be crying or worrying how she’ll send her kids to college.

I don’t have much sympathy for O-6s in any pay aspect. Especially since their pay is twice what an E-8’s pay is for the same TIS.

Hondo

Correct, Bobo. But VOV’s comment was about the pay of an E8 w/18 YOS, not an O6 with 26. That’s why I structured my reply as I did.

3/17 Air Cav

Hondo…….your talking about military pay scale brings back memories. As a E-5 with under two years of service my pay was $360.00 per month while serving in Vietnam in 1971. Add to that $65.00 per month combat pay. Then add another $50.00 per month for flight pay! Those were the good old days. $475.00 per month! What a life! Smile

D

It’s an even better deal for TRICARE Prime on active duty, as there aren’t any enrollment fees or network co-pays. The only fees my family ever had were for prescriptions at a civilian pharmacy, but mine were always free.

Hondo

Yep. Medical is one of two retiree bennies that are truly “good deals”. Even if TRICARE Prime were to double its fees, it still would beat the hell out of most other commercial insurance plans, cost wise.

Commissary is IMO the other bennie that’s truly worthwhile. The others, well . . . MWR facility use is still worth something, I guess; the others, not so much. But maybe that’s just me.

I’m excluding retired pay as that’s really earned deferred compensation, not a “bennie”.

Guard Bum

Depending on where you are stationed and your MOS base pay can be about 54% or so of your total pay and allowances and a lot of the allowances are tax free.

Skippy

If I had a Dime for every non PT, obese (aka Fat) Colonel I ever meet, I’d be a millionaire…
BHWHAHAHAHA! ! ! !

sapper3307

She will still get a promotion its all in the E.O.
imho

Skippy

And you hit the nail on the head

Hondo

Dunno about that. Promotion from COL to BG is incredibly competitive; it doesn’t appear to take much of a blemish on the record to kill an officer’s chances of wearing stars. I think she’s maxed out, rank wise.

jonp

She maxed out the bathroom scale by the looks of her.

She should never have gotten to O6. I’d like to talk to her SGM and find out just what the hell “borderline toxic leader” is. I bet it was far from borderline. I met far to many entitled Officers that in no way shape or form should have been in the military. She should be given the boot right now for trying an end run around the standards.

Hondo

I agree, jonp. And in most other career fields, she’d likely be toast.

However, MC/DC/ANC are shorthanded – and have been for years if not decades. So she’ll probably be allowed to stay on active duty if she wants.

Skippy

Least we not forget 14 years of war the army was desperate and hell bent on keeping officers
no matter what. I’ve worked with a few that were great leaders. It’s the one I worked with in the sandbox in 2010 that had my head spinning. She is in MEDAC and I as Hindi said she ain’t going anywhere I hope the Army is able to continue to clean house…

MrBill

Even with the EO factor involved, I think it’ll be pretty tough for an officer to make GO, having been relieved as an O-6. She may well be able to stay in the service as others have opined, but I just don’t see her getting promoted.

Hondo

Bingo. Relief from command – presumably for cause – isn’t exactly a small blemish, either. In most other career fields, that would almost always be a career-ender. MC/DC/ANC, maybe not.

Eric

Yeah if she still gets promoted to 1-star, even other O-6s on the medical side will call bullshit and throw down.

99% she’ll retire an O-6. That 1% is reserved for if someone in the chain happens to say, “she could be my sister…”

Devtun

0-6 to 0-7 is without a doubt the most difficult promotion hurdle. Only around 4% of COL/CAPT will pin on a star. I read somewhere that service academy cadets are forewarned that realistically their ceiling is in the 0-5/0-6 range.

Arby

The worst example of this that I have seen was a female Air Force Major General who did everything she could to stay off the fat girl list except lose weight. Unfortunately, she is now Bexar County’s problem as they saw fit to elect her sheriff…

nbcguy54ACTUAL

And not a bad Sheriff at that..

Now, the new Slammintonio Police Chief… another story.

2/17 Air Cav

I hear that the only question should be whether a soldier can do his or her job. So, if your MOS doesn’t require you to be physically fit with weight proportionate to body type, then to hell with these stupid, antiquated requirements. This is the new Army. I guess the real issue with Lock and Load here is that she tried the old dipsey doodle and alienated certain people who saw this as a get-even opportunity. So, in that sense, she is the victim here and has my sympathies. (I’m not saying how much, if anything, I just wrote is utter bullshit.)

Bobo

To an extent, I agree with the height/weight commiserate with MOS argument, but that’s not the case in the Army. The real problem here is her lack of morals and ethics. You’re fat, take the hit, don’t try to pressure subordinates into making it go away. What would she have said if a private failed his/her height/weight and came to her to keep from getting flagged?

Sparks

2/17 Air Cav…Being a Soldier means being a Soldier, first and foremost. Everything after that is determined by education and MOS. But first, one must be and maintain themselves as a Soldier.

David

used to hear that shit all the time… funny thing, it always came from the fat troops. Never seemed to hear that from the other breeds of slackers. Whatever their excuses, they didn’t have that particular whine in their repertoire.

Hondo

Dunno. Being a bit “pudgy” didn’t exactly seem to affect a guy named Schwarzkopf’s abilities as a soldier. I think he did at least OK.

I’m reasonably sure Schwarzkopf was over his screening weight in the early 1990s – working from memory, for 6’3″ that would have been around 215lbs or so. Based on photos I’ve seen and published accounts I’ve read I doubt he was anywhere near that light. But I suppose I could be wrong.

That said, I’m not aware that Schwarzkopf ever failed a tape test and pressured a subordinate to hide the fact, either. So his case is very different from this one.

David

and did he ever use that excuse? “I’m still able to do my job”? I strongly doubt it.

Hondo

To my knowledge, no. But I believe I essentially said as much above.

My point was that Army weight standards aren’t necessarily linked to performance in any meaningful way. But regardless, they’re still the standards and must be followed until they’re changed.

ChipNASA
Stacy0311

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTeJwLVWUr8

Maybe 1SG Moerk will see this and get offended enough to get another ARCOM

Skippy

She is up for a bronze star now

Steadfast&Loyal

I saw this a lot in my battalion during my stint at Hood.

One company commander and the battalion commander.

on a side note I always thought ehte body fat comp was BS. I’m a big guy. 6’4″. Large chest thick neck. I always hit my APFT at the 270-280 mark. But i also had to be taped. It was always close.

Hell when i was the company Xo we got a new CO in and had been at Bragg in the 82nd. he hated that his XO had to be taped. Claimed I would never last in the 82nd. Running was his game. He found out fast that I may be large, but i was fast and I don’t quit….5 miles, 7 miles…10 miles. I took the challenge. smoked his ass every day at PT.

So no matter my opnions, or yours…it’s the standard. If your troops do it you have to as well. You volunteered. You knew what you were getting into.

Hondo

Agreed. If you’re in a leadership position, you meet and enforce the standards – whether or not you agree with them.

I personally thought the black marketing rules in Korea were mostly nonsense. But the EUSA/USFK commander didn’t ask my opinion about them – and he did expect them to be obeyed and enforced.

Sparks

If she has the same ethics as a nurse as she does and an Officer, then I wouldn’t want her treating me in the military or the private sector. Saw her kind, male and female, my whole life. Do whatever it takes to get by and get over.

Sparks

I have a suggestion Colonel Lock. Cut it back to only a couple of pork roasts a day and maybe you’ll lop off 80 or 90 pounds!

Sparks

Update! Colonel Lock knew she was in trouble when they pulled out the tailors tape and she saw…they had to staple two together end to end to get a measurement.

Ex-PH2

Yeah, she’s a chunk, all right, but is she a good nurse?

When a word like ‘toxic’ is used, does that means she’s a tyrant or a lazy jerk who dumps all the work on subordinates and hides in her office, and blames everyone else if something goes wrong?

Obviously, she has some issues. I’m sure that as a nurse, she recognizes the correspondence between excess weight and diabetes and other issues, so is she hiding her PT because she’s also hiding something else?

I think it’s legitimate to ask those questions. Meantime, the sight of Nurse Chunkster has destroyed my appetite… and I just got myself a box of lemon cake mix. I am sad.

Sparks

Ex-PH2, nothing was addressed about whether or not she is a good nurse. For all I know she could be Nurse Ratched or Florence Nightingale. That being said, her ethics suck. That being said, I don’t want an unethical person treating me. Her nursing qualities? We don’t know. Her unethical behavior, she demonstrated in spades.

Geetwillickers

I agree – this story is not about being overweight, or underpaid, or even about nursing skills – it is about a toxic leader, and to my understanding of the article, an unethical leader.

As an illustration, look at why Martha Stewart went to prison. Not for the insider trading. Because she tried to cover up the insider trading. Not because she broke the SEC rules and used inside information to get better returns, but because she and her people conspired to hide the information that she had done so. Bottom line: She lied.

This Officer tried to pressure her subordinate into falsifying records. In my mind, she makes it worse by insisting that she was only “trying to clarify the procedure” to change the records, since that tells me that she was careful to phrase the request in such a way that her (ample) ass was covered if the fecal matter happened to impact the rotational ventilation device. To phrase it in such a way that she could deflect all of that splattering fertilizer upon the hapless subordinate.

I have worked for these kinds of people before, and I do not trust them any further than I could toss this particular Officer.

Full bird? Yep. Of the Blue Falcon variety. Caw-CAW!

Ex-PH2

Which is exactly my point, guys. If she’s hiding her PT and trying to smokescreen the other requirement, what else is she hiding? I wouldn’t want her treating me, either, because she’s lying about something. I think it goes deeper than just being unethical about herself.

Bill M

So true. And remember the “lesson of the poser” we see here so often: oftentimes, they not only steal valor; there are other things going on. The rot is deep and this is only one symptom.

Pinto Nag

Same here. If she’s in the military and having problems with following the rules, and her idea of dealing with a problem is to cover it up…that’s trouble. We can only hope that her tape issue is the only thing she’s slacking on.

Bobo

I’m guessing that she hasn’t seen a patient in 10 years. She stopped being a nurse and became an administrator a long time ago, and I’m willing to bet that she’ll never be a nurse again.

been there

10 years? surely you are kidding…this toxic blimp hasn’t taken care of anyone but herself in 20

CLAW131

This may be old school, but here’s a thought.

Instead of spending luxury time at the schoolhouse in Fort Sam Houston, how about a 179 TDY/Short Deployment to somewhere where her field skills as an ANC could be utilized. Suspend her Officer rate BAS, issue a meal card and have her eat at the Mess Hall/Field Trains or MRE’s. I guarantee you that upon return to the mainstream Army she would make weight.

Speaking of those BAS rates, I think that the 2015 Enlisted rate of $367.92 a month is more than I got as an E-4 over 2 years base pay some forty odd years ago. But we got to eat C-Rations back then, so I guess it all good.

David

FNG PFC made $300 even base pay a month on 1977. Went up to $330 in a giant pay raise shortly thereafter.

On a note unrelated to pay – it’s subjective – but especially after a few years on the job, one of the most overweight professions I know is nurses. There’s a lot of sitting around in nursing, and in general it is not a physically stressful as many non-office jobs.

Currahee John

Yeah, but IIRC, Jimmah Carter decided in 1978 or 79 that we were paid too well, and hit the entire military with a 1.5% cut.

David

I don’t recall, nor can I find evidence of that – think he cut the military BUDGET, not military pay. Given that at that point I was in Germany facing a dollar plummeting against the Deutschmark (dropped to about DM1.63 to $1) I suspect I would have noticed. I could be wrong – let me know.

Hondo

You don’t recall that because it didn’t happen, David. For all their other faults, the Carter Administration treated the military reasonably well in terms of pay when compared to US civilian workers.

The Carter Administration prepared 4 budgets: FY78, FY79, FY80, and FY81. These budgets controlled pay raises occurring in Jan 78, 79, 80, and 81, respectively.

Those pay raises were 7.1%, 5.5%, 7.0%, and 11.7%. Two of them were a bit above the average civilian pay raise for the year; two were a bit below.

In fact, the Defense Budget went up in dollar terms each year during the Carter Administration. Unfortunately, that gang of incompetent tools mismanaged the US economy so badly that the increases did not in general keep pace with inflation.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/militarypay/a/historicalpay.htm

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1970_2015USb_16s1li011tcn_30f_Recent_Defense_Spending

David

Inflation was the real killer – it was so high I remember buying CDs (the financial kind, kids) with 13-14% interest. Any pay increases we received on paper were ‘way under the real-world inflation rate.

Hondo

Yep. But civilians were feeling the same pain.

All in all, the military fared about as well under the Carter Administration as did the US civilian population. The cumulative effect of the average civilian wage gains during the Carter years was 35.03%; for the mlitary, 35.05%.

Of course, during that same time frame cumulative CPI inflation was 44.76%. In other words – everyone was sucking hind t!t.

David

Amen to that. By the way, Jimmeh C apparently stated that the gay marriage decision was probably right. If I were gay I would be terrified at receiving his support… his track record is impeccably – wriong.

Craig Miller

I believe you could by a serviceable automobile for $200 and a McDonalds cheeseburger was 18 cents back then also. Don’t hate the new guys, blame the Federal Reserve for devaluating the money supply. Something to think about when you try and eat a cheese omelet MRE.

Green Thumb

I guess it is time for some fat boy, or fat girl, in this case, PT.

SFC D

I recall the head of the Karlsruhe clinic in 1994, a MAJ IIRC, going to Belgium for liposuction every year just prior to OER time. At least he he didn’t pressure qa subordinate, just paid out of pocket and gamed the system.

sapper3307

They say the camera ads twenty pounds.
Howe many cameras are on her?

Green Thumb

Its time for Photoshop on the DA photo.

2/17 Air Cav

Besides, I hear it’s glandular.

Pinto Nag

Technically, it’s called ‘Fork and Elbow Disease.’ /sarc

Hondo

I thought it was “fork-in-mouth disease” . . . . (smile)

Twist

The taking the PT test out of sight out of mind annoyes the hell out of me. Whenever we did the PT test it was pretty much a week long event. The CSM would grade the 1SGs with one of the PSGs from the Battalion as timer. The 1SG would then grade the PSGs with the CO as timer. The PSGs would then grade all the Squad Leaders. The next day everyone else would take their test to include the officers, and as a PSG I would also take it again with them.

Phil stevenson

I’ve worked for her. Toxic is understatement. Useless and racial is where she is. Card player ! Fact. FAT. FACT
EPITOME OF TOXIC IMHO.
HEY GLENDA ,, KARMA MAKES A VISIT TO YOUR O’ER SOON! WANNA MEET STANDARD? PT AND THRO THAT DOUGHNUT AWAY AMD PUSH AWAY FROM TABLE.
YOU ARE SINGLE HA DEALS MAKING A NAME FOR THE NURSE CORPS AMD THEY ARE LET ING YOU. SHAME INDEED

been there

Dear Phil,
You are so right…worked for her too. Toxic doesn’t even begin to cover it. I love KARMA…..

B Woodman

Unfortunately, I had a troop who was a bodybuilder, competition grade (and winning), with giant neck, giant chest, giant arms, and giant weight to match.
Maxed his AFPT every time, but had to be taped every time. He got tired of it real quick, and instead of re-upping, he ETS’d.

Too bad. He was a good troop.

Ditto for a CPT Company commander I had. A good commander, but got flagged for overweight, and was passed over for promotion.

fibmcgee1

looking at what people in the service are paid now made me go back to see what I earned as an EM for 2 years service, 1960-1962: E1 to E4 (made at 15 months)…

$2,437. Total. For 24 months.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Hey, I feel great now, I was making twice that in the 70s…

Hondo

VOV: you really want to feel good, take a look at the 1949 pay scales – they’re available from Oct 1949 on at

http://www.dfas.mil/militarymembers/payentitlements/military-pay-charts.html

The 1949 pay tables represented (for E1s) a pay raise of 50% from the previous pay scales. I know this because a man I’ve written about here before joined the USMC in 1950 – and caught hell from his DIs during Boot Camp for being overpaid so much.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Indeed…thank you for the links…quite an interesting reflection on the cost of living and working in the Armed Forces over the years.

Hondo

FWIW: here’s what military pay was prior to Oct 1949 – pay was the same as during World War II.

http://www.hardscrabblefarm.com/ww2/payscale.htm

Steadfast&Loyal

Here’s an issue no one is talking about really.

being a good nurse really isn’t the issue. Above I mentioned a company commander that tried to forge/fake or skate by the APFT. Coincidently that commander was a medical corps officer….not a nurse but one of hte many non-medical Medical officers (they tend to the admin side). Any case this officer commanded a medical company which at the direct support level is mainly a mass cal unit.

Any case once found out this officer was moved on to division to wait the remaining time of service. This officer would get tasked with things to do like coordinate for equipment and such. But whenever this captian would call people would blow the call off. The captain had no more authority. Might was well hav ea private call…well…at least with the private we would know they were calling for someone else. While we supported the effort we did so “laterally” meaning we would call the unit in need or the operation NCOIC/OIC we would never go through this captain.

It was all instict. An officer, hell any leader, that can’t meet the standard, has no intestianl fortitude to do what’s right. Military leaders need to make the right call wihtout someone over thier shoulder all the time. if they have to be babysat or someone confirming thier judgements they aren’t worth it in the end.

toxic or not…hiding the PT results is hints at something greater. And I am wiling to bet there are more around there doing it. Because it doesn’t just happen. This isn’t the first. this is just one that was caught. And if the O6 is…you know others are.

OWB

We all know plenty of military folks who always maxed out on the scale (whatever it was at the time) yet managed to look like they belonged in the uniform. Shoot, some of us even were those troopers. Yep, guilty. I always rode very near the upper end of the weight limit and always surprised whoever was recording that bit of trivia. It’s what happens when you have mostly muscle instead of fat.

Obviously the Colonel under discussion is carrying a bunch of extra fat around. Doubt that it was issued to her, so she needs to get rid of it. Actually, she should have gotten rid of it a long time ago.

Twist

It’s a good thing that I was always under the maximum weight allowance. I have a skinny neck and would probably not do so well in a tape test.

Just an Old Dog

Looking at that picture it’s easy to read between the lines. That woman didn’t grow to be a hiefer/hog of those proportions overnight.
Looks like her trying to slide this time was the proverbial “icing on the cake” ( which she probably ate).
It sounds and looks like shes been playing the game for years and should have been forced out as a Captain.
If she was a skilled nurse she could have easily moved to the civilian sector years ago and been doing fine.
She’ll probably hang on for a few more years then retire with full bennies and get a job with the VA.
She will probably weasel a goiod disability rating from the VA as well.

Hondo

JaOD: you’re correct that this didn’t happen overnight. My guess is she’s either been BSing or riding close to the edge for a while, and finally managed to “bolo”.

I got curious, so I checked the Army’s female height/weight tables. They’re found here – not an official source, but they appear to be accurate and agree with another reliable unofficial source I checked:

http://www.apft-standards.com/index.html

From the photo, assuming the guy is 5’10” to 6′ I’d guess she’s between 5’7″ and 5’9″. For her age bracket (40+), that means her screening weight is 166 lbs (5’7″); 171 lbs (5’8″); or 176 lbs (5’9″). She wouldn’t have gotten taped unless she exceeded her screening weight.

Even if the guy’s 5’7″ or so, that means she’s probably 5’4″ or 5’5″. That means she’d have a screening weight of 151 lbs or 156 lbs, respectively.

Further, the tape test has to indicate over 36% body fat for her age category before a female is a NO GO – so it’s not like she’s a weightlifter who’s virtually all muscle. She simply has been eating more than she should for her level of physical activity – for some time.

Yeah, the Army’s height/weight standards may not accurately reflect the ability to do one’s assigned duties, and they may be difficult for some to meet. But like it or not, they’re still the freaking standards. And they ARE achievable with a bit of effort and self-discipline – particularly when you know well in advance when you’ll be required to weigh in and take your APFT, or can set that date yourself.

Ex-PH2

I checked that table. 5’2″, 40+ years, max weight 142. My jeans are falling off me, but they’re so crappy (the fabric is crap and rots out quickly) that I’m not replacing them until they literally fall off my sorry behind.

However, muscle takes up less room than fat, so pound of muscle, which is mostly protein, is considerably smaller than a pound of fat, which is mostly water. In which case, hiking and snowshoeing and dragging a loaded pack will pay off.

Jarhead

The Army won’t boot her????? Not in this day of having to be politically correct. Such as, “You screw with me and I’ll shove the race card so far up your ass that you’ll NEVER see another promotion”!!!!!

Hondo

In most other career fields, Jarhead, she’d likely be quietly told, “It’s in your best interest to retire now.” But MC/DC/ANC are short enough (and hard enough to recruit) that she’ll probably be allowed to stay unless she “steps on it” again.

Ex-PH2

I’ve reread the article several times for content.
‘toxic’ means someone has self-control and/ro competence issues, ‘borderline toxic’ is worse, because it hints at things that haven’t come to light yet but will when she retires. ‘poor command climate’ supports that.

My guess, and I’m guessing, is that she rode her rank instead of being a nurse, people disliked her a lot for reasons we don’t about just yet but the Army does know and is putting her where she will do the least harm until she gets to retirement status, and then, bye-bye. I think the fact that she’s been trying to hide her tests from people who work for her and is trying to get a legitimate marker off her record says a lot.
So my assessment of this person, based on this, is that she’s gotten a bit out of control and not just with her weight – with other aspects of her chosen field, too. I’m sure that, once she’s gone, people who worked under her (I won’t say ‘for her’) will feel as though a breath of fresh air has blown through their division. It’s like I said, and I’m just guessing, but she may be a bitch on wheels, which is not a suitable temperament for nursing, in any environment.

Doctor Honcho

As an Army physician, I can tell you that she is not unusual to what we see in MEDCOM. I have seen several O-6 nurses without combat patches, hiding out in MTFs. The Army keeping her because of low nursing manpower is bullshit, since she is a “Clipboard Nurse” and likely has not interacted with a patient in more than a decade. We are understrengthed in the trenches of patient care, at the O-1 to O-4 level, but they are overstrength with O-5 and O-6 nurses. you’re right, she won’t get booted, but the excuses as to why are far more insidious than you might think on the surface of the issue.

Legalguy

For anyone interested here is the entire story from the Army Times.

http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2015/07/08/glenda-lock-fired-mcdonald-army-health-center-investigatoin/29871027/

I knew COL Lock and she practiced her leadership through physical intimidation, dressing down subordinates in front of others, preferential treatment of those similar to her (black/female) regardless of their abilities, etc, etc, etc. I am truly glad she got what she deserved; the people at MacDonald Army Health Center didn’t deserve to have her thrown at them.

nbcman54ACTUAL

The Army Times article has effectively ended her career. Shouldn’t hear too much more about her after a while….

been there

You are wrong. They will move her and hide her. This is the practice today. Look for a discrimination/EO suit from her soon.

been there

If you thought she was toxic there, you should have seen her in form at Tripler………….A DISGRACE to those in uniform