Dad blames USMC for son shooting two cops in NYC
Mark sends us a link from the Daily News in which Johnny Polanco, the father of Jason Polanco who shot two police officers in the Bronx yesterday, tries to deflect blame from himself in the form of one sad-ass apology;
“I apologize to the families that my son affected by his actions, but my son is not like this,” Johnny Polanco, 53, said of his son Jason, 24.
The depressed dad blamed the streets for steering his son astray.
“The worst thing I ever did was bring him down to Decatur Ave.,” Polanco said. “He was a good kid before we moved to this forsaken block.”
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The dad also blames the Marine Corps, saying his son was in boot camp in South Carolina but left after five months.
“When he came back he was totally different person,” he said. “He had a problem being around crowds and he didn’t like civilians. I told him, ‘Jase, this is not life.'”
Yeah, five months in Marine Corps is what screwed him up – tens of thousands of Marines who spent a helluva lot longer than that, saw a lot more than Polanco saw, go to their regular jobs everyday without shooting cops or engage in armed robbery. If young “Jace” got booted from the Corps, there was something wrong with him when he got there, and based on this “apology” the fault lies with his parenting, or the lack thereof, rather.
And shave that rat off your face, hipster douche.
Father (Pastor John Polanco) and son, Jason, at the range about ten years ago.
Category: Dumbass Bullshit
Probably your typical NYC recruit, thinks he is tougher than everybody else simply by virtue of being from theBronx. Those kids are a dime a dozen, I deal with them everyday and they are usually the first to break.
Yep. We had one in my Basic unit and he lasted 3 weeks.
Had a guy like that in basic. Couldn’t qual with his M16. They shipped him home right before Thanksgiving.
Lemme guess–kept turning it sideways and as a result kept jamming on him?
No, let me put it to you this way, the first week of basic, everyone in his platoon and even the drills were calling this guy “Tyson”.
Kept biting people’s ears off?
Chicken?
I never could stand those jackasses; NYC and TX, they sure can be some arrogant pricks. No offense if you’re from TX.
So it was not just me. Would not matter if it was but nice to know it was not.
Just look at our resident cheese lover.
Heavy Chevy
With all due respect, Johnny; fuck you and your “apology”.
What Old Trooper said.
Ditto.
What “due respect” does this jerk have coming? His apology is nothing but an exercise in “passing the buck” regarding his son’s wrongdoing.
I’d respect him if he said something along the lines of, “My son did wrong, and must now face the consequences. That was his choice – and his failure. His choice pains me, but I love him none the less for that mistake.”
Instead, he’s trying to blame others, apparently to make himself feel better. While I can understand why someone would do that, I can’t respect it.
I didn’t say he had any respect coming. That’s why I like that line “with all due respect”, because it’s ambiguous. It could mean he has lots, or none.
“With all due respect” and “No offense but” are phrases which require a response of ‘go fuck yourself’ close to 100% of the time. People try to use them as a polite
“well, I am going to insult you but by saying this first you cant take offense” wen in actuality they’re deliberately insulting you. Works as well as that Diet Coke cancelling all them cheeseburger calories.
David, that’s just silly! Diet Coke doesn’t cancel out Cheeseburger calories! Everybody knows it’s for the calories in the XL fries it cancels!
Understood, folks. Just making the point that I didn’t see any reason to be overly polite to this tool, given the circumstances.
Come on Hondo, you know better….
“…with all due respect…” has a long and storied tradition in the military, well known to be a “diplomatic” way to indicate that the person being addressed is due NO respect whatsoever in that particular moment.
Heck, it’s long past slipped into common civilian usage.
PavePusher: using the phrase at least preserves the appearance of caring what the target thinks, and of respecting them as a person.
I don’t much care if this guy knows (1) I think he’s full of it, and (2) I don’t have any respect for him because of what he’s trying to pull here. He’s shifting blame away from the little criminal he raised, not apologizing for a damn thing. And he’s defaming the military – and by extension, all veterans – while doing so.
Five months in, Did the kid make it off Parris Island before he got the boot or did he save his really poor decision-making for MOS school?
If he did spend his entire truncated career in the recruit depot, what would have held him over for so long? a stint in MRP? As I understood it recruits booted for Failure To Adapt, mental problems, disciplinary issues, or lying about drug use were put on a bus home as quickly as they could process the paperwork.
Is there anyone around here with time on the drill field who can shed some light on this?
If he spent his whole time on the Depot, it was because he was injured and in MRP waiting for final evaluation or he had problems like drug use, suicide threat or a failure to adapt.
And they don’t always put you on the first bus out. Sometimes they will keep you several months. We had one guy who was sent to MRP during Range Week (Two shattered knees) and they were going to hold him for about six months.
Broke dick or pork chop platoon.
Both NR Pax and FatCircles0311 comments below have merit. Some stay longer than others. Admin discharges can get processed pretty quickly and the convening authority can grant the appropriate discharge just as fast, but it’s largely on a case by case basis. One street thug recruit went UA and went back to Detroit to continue his thuggery until he was caught, sent back to the depot, and was booted about 2 weeks after he returned (but that was an exceptional case, not the norm).
A note to and for the media, Jason Polanco was not, nor will he ever be a veteran.
Dafuq? Sounds like the apple didn’t fall far from the tree.
Had four guys like that in my Basic flight. Only one graduated. The other three learned by 3rd week just how long it takes CQ to process your gtfo papers… Meaning I was on my way _back_ from graduation and saw one of those idiots languishing in CQ.
OK dad…..we hear your BS excuses. In the NY Post article, here: http://nypost.com/2015/01/06/man-being-questioned-in-shooting-of-2-cops/ – – –
“One man, Jason Polanco, was preparing to flee the city when he was nabbed near East Tremont and Westchester avenues in The Bronx shortly before 1 p.m., sources said.”
Furthermore: “Polanco is suspected of opening fire and seriously wounding plainclothes cops Andrew Dossi and Aliro Pellarano outside a Chinese restaurant…..”
Sure, I can see how the USMC should be blamed for EVERYTHING that happened in this incident!!
The blame shifting in our country is out of control….. What a BS excuse.
I know I was in the Air Force and I know it was a long time ago; but I’m sure the Marine Corps has people who do a job similar to the one an old buddy of mine had. My buddy’s job, at the then Lackland AFB, was to go through all of the names of the newly arrived recruits and search for wants, warrants, and other irregularities that created fraudulent enlistments. Everyday on my way to work I would see these washouts-before-they-started waiting for the bus to take them to the processing squadron and their one way trip off base. One day I spotted one that hadn’t even received his first hair cut.
I thought I’d seen the last of these; however, I see them everyday, many of them holding signs saying, “Vetran wil wurk fer fud”.
We had five in my Air Force BMT (Feb 1989) that didn’t make the first week. One had flat feet and could not march, the other four we just flat out crazy and could not handle six short weeks of being micromanaged.
“When he came back he was totally different person,” he said. “He had a problem being around crowds and he didn’t like civilians. I told him, ‘Jase, this is not life.’”
So 5 months in the Corp and he’s a wild assed, crazed PTSD head case. Please…give me a fucking break Dad! Sounds like you admitted to the kids problems earlier in your statement but just don’t want to take responsibility for being a dick as a dad. Grow up old man, your son is going to be growing up pretty quickly in the can soon.
Nothing will make you dislike civilians like 5 months in the USMC. Um, yeah. WTFO?
I blame PTSD via osmosis, it is the only possible explanation. {sarc}
It appears that he was a POS before his enlistment.
It is probable that he was a POS during his short enlistment.
It appears he continued being a POS after his enlistment.
Hey dad, this is in your lap first and foremost.
He fell in with the wrong crowd? Shit. He was the wrong crowd. His partner in crime has 10 arrests and is on parole for robbery. 23 Polanco is. 23. Like he is a baby. Were you running the streets at 23? Was your mommy and daddy making excuses for your bad behavior?
Stop blaming the streets. Stop blaming the Marines. Hell, don’t blame yourself. Blame YOUR FUCKING SON! He’s the one who pulled the fucking trigger you fucking ass hat!
Yeah, it’s always everyone else’s responsibility when your kid does things like that. Couldn’t possibly have a thing to do with the parenting skills, or lack thereof, of the father. Naw. Never has anything to do with upbringing.
Although, the dad’s excuses certainly explain a lot.
Hey! Polanco! You hippie asshole! The Marine Corps didn’t screw up your stupid kid. He was already screwed up and probably by you, you moron. I blame you for that, asshole. Don’t you DARE blame the Marines. They didn’t want him, either.
And frankly, you c()ksucking mullion-eyed bastardized asswipe sheep-biting skainsmate, I don’t think your idiotic kid could have made it through WAVES boot camp in 1967 because he’s nothing but a fool-born, idle-brained, hamster-chomping asshole, just like you.
“Sheep-biting” is awfully harsh, PH2.
😀
But “hamster-chomping asshole” is pure brilliance!
I was just upset because my plumbing problem was not a mere clog, but rather a minor but necessary repair at a connection.
Thank you both for making me laugh!
Unresolved childhood issues caused by bad fathering.
Note: with repect to photo above, maybe daddy dearest should have been watching his child as he pointed his weapon down range at a 45 degree angle.
But what do I know?
At least daddy got his hero photo!
POS …
BINGO… and Master Blaster has won the internet!!!
You guys… The problem here is them guns. They turn our sweet innocent youth into killers.
Oh Wait… Them and the PTSD. THEY are ruining our country. They hover over the innocent and, like the mosquito, inject disease.
Nobody is really guilty for anything.
This kind of thing is scary.
So guns are like mosquitos and PTSD is like malaria? The guns carry it and pass it on to anyone who touches them?
Sounds about as smart as anything else the anti-gun crowd tries to sell us.
I’m still unconvinced, I’ve carried a loaded sidearm since I’ve had a CCW permit, and it’s never made me go nuts and murder someone, thus I think it must be something else that makes people kill each other!
Nope. Them guns emit this strange ray and keeps you from knowing all the people that you shoot. So if you think it never happens, it probably happens all the time.
Maybe it’s the bore solvent …
(with apologies to Father Guido Sarducci)
Bootcamp PTSD.
Sounds legit!
Maybe the little snowflake was the first one in his Training Unit to drop his tough guy act and call home bawling?!
Tens of thousands of us have graduated from boot camp and served in the fleet for longer than this criminal served. We haven’t shot anyone. Dad, it’s your fault, not the Marines.
The Marine Cor…er…five months of recruit training on Parris Island did this to your son? Sorry asshole, that answer is incorrect.
YOU ARE A NO-GO AT THIS STATION, YOU MAGGOT. NOW DROP AND GIVE ME PUSHUPS UNTIL– I’M — TIRED!!
((referring to the father))
I can totally understand why the dad blames the Marine Corps.
He sent them a spoiled, entitled, useless, douchebag asshat and expected the Marine Corps to change him into a useful productive member of society. The Marine Corps tried, but realized daddy’s little douchetard wasn’t worth the time, trouble and effort and sent him back to daddy and said “No thanks, you keep him.”
“He sent them a spoiled, entitled, useless, douchebag asshat”
Right description, wrong story. See my comment at the bottom.
Sounds to me like the “father” here is just a self-centered, immature, entitlement-minded, “special little snowflake” in denial who’s looking to blame others for his son’s criminal acts. I’m guessing the apple didn’t fall far from the tree in most of those areas, either.
If you want to know who’s responsible here, “Rev” Polanco, I suggest you look two places. First: look your son directly in the eye. At 23, your son is well past the “just a kid” stage. He’s been past that for a good 5 years now; he damn well knew he was doing wrong when he shot that cop. The USMC had nothing to do with that choice.
And, second – take a good, long look in the freaking mirror. You’re the one who raised the little dipstick.
My favorite part in this is the “my son’s actions” quote. They weren’t just actions, your son tried to kill someone. If you want me to listen to you then admit what he did.
Dick
I hate to be the bearer of bad news Dad, but your son IS like this. He really is a POS! The Marines didn’t want him and society doesn’t either. I don’t blame you because some people really are just garbage. But, based on your “apology”, that old saying comes to mind…The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
OOOH gee whiz Polanco, it’s GOT to be the USMC’s fault that your precious little snowflake of a Sparkle Pony couldn’t hack it in the Military or civilian life, right, o my booger-eating bedwetting buck-toothed fungus-faced inbred Nooh Joizey Swamp Donkey? It couldn’t be shitty parenting on your part, that would hurt your feeeewings!!
As for the little Smurf-lusting glitter-farting tinsel mouse cream puff of a Sparkle Pony that went nuts, he’s what, 23 years old? SHIT, I made it through Army Basic and AIT at that age, and I saw wannabes like him wash out. I’ve also dealt with washouts like him in civilian life that blithered about how they were kicked out because they beat up a DS or DI, and I’ve laughed right in their faces! What’s next, will it be the LEO’s fault because they were breathing? Stupid little shittyassed flesh pickle-sniffing pus-nuts fart weasels!
Infidel, tell us how you really feel.
The USMC currently finds only 10-20% of the 18-25yo males meet minimum qualifications for enlistment. They are taking the best
But after discharge 40-50% of all vets are claiming to be permanently disabled
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-05-28/veteran-disability/55250092/1
Also after service vets have a slightly higher incarceration rate than the general public BUT a significantly higher rate than that top 10-20% from which they were selected.
I am sure that there were many factors involved in this tragic incident and that effort should be made for things like this to not happen again
J,
What ARE you blithering about? What discharge? The turd is not a vet, he apparently never made it out of basic training.
John,
I’m not sure if you’re pulling some things out of your ass or using a snippit of an article when tossing around the incarceration numbers in your comment, because I have no idea where you got them.
And what do disability rates have to do with the issue at hand?
The only legitimate info I could find on veteran incarceration was a 2007 Bureau of Justice Statistics article. The data in that article shows that in 2004 about 10% of the prison populations were veterans. And as 2/17 Air Cav says below, their veteran status is self-reported, which isn’t the best means to collect that data. The article also kills your claim that “after service vets have a slightly higher incarceration rate than the general public”. The article states “veterans had lower prison incarceration rates than Nonveterans”. It also tells us that the number of veteran’s in prison is dropping and that veterans of the war on terror make up the smallest percentage of vets in the clink at 4%.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vsfp04.txt
I’m not sure what your point was, because I can’t make sense of your ramblings, but it appears that the data you’re using to make that point sucks.
The United States Marine Corps isn’t responsible for this dude’s behavior. People need to quit blame shifting and start taking responsibility for their own actions.
Was anyone else far more fascinated by the other headline, the one about the hedge fund-manager shot and killed by his 30 year old son after daddy cut Jr.’s allowance by $200 ($3,000 down to $2,800 a month)? “Gilbert Jr. also attended Princeton, graduating in 2009 with a degree in economics. Authorities said he had no recent work history.”
Cheer up, Palancos — other parents have failed worse than you!
“Also after service vets have a slightly higher incarceration rate than the general public….” I am extremely doubtful that is true. In fact, I can find no recent studies of veteran/non-veteran incarceration rates other except for one or two specific counties. Moreover, ALL of the dated studies rely on self reporting in the administered surveys. That is, inmates are asked whether they are Veterans. If they say yes, that’s that. There is no verification whatsoever. Interestingly, even with that dubious information as the basis for old studies, rates of Veteran incarceration have been falling for decades. The high-water mark was in the years following Vietnam when every Tom, Dick, and Larry who was arrested for drug possession claimed he was a Veteran, no doubt hoping that doing so would benefit him.
I think that the father is saying, “The kid misbehaved and that caused bad parenting.” Or something.
According to this parental jackass, there’s a possibility that military rejects are capable of terrible crimes after being booted. If only the mother had swallowed that faulty sperm sample…if only!
I’m sure the best part of him ran down his momma’s leg and became yet another stain on their carpet that day!!
If he was there 5 months, he was a recycle or med holding platoon. He never earned the Eagle Globe and Anchor. Not a Marine never EARNED that title. Look somewhere else to lay the blame Dad. Maybe the mirror. Semper Fi
I have a question — he mentions 5 months in boot camp in Carolina — did he keep washing back? Marine Corps Boot Camp is only 13 weeks.
Blame the Marines??? Blame the smuck who couldn’t hack it. Blame the dad who couldn’t hack it as a father. There are failures here, but USMC isn’t one of them. He didn’t have what it takes and was sent home. Not everyone can be a Marine. Suck it up buttercup and stop trying to save face. The title is earned never given.