Anti-war clowns feel cold slap of reality

| November 29, 2008

Obama was their hope, he was their change. The far Left tossed Hillary Clinton aside and stalked Nancy Pelosi because they weren’t quite as anti-war as the moonbats had hoped. Obama was the hope – but now, not so much.

The World Socialist Web Site laments the appointment of Robert Gates to another year at the helm of the Pentagon as the absolute betrayal of the Left by Obama;

Obama won the Democratic presidential nomination over Senator Hillary Clinton in large measure because he appealed to the same antiwar sentiments that had propelled the Democrats to their victory in the 2006 congressional elections. His mantra throughout the primary campaign—a rebuke to Clinton and other rival Democratic candidates who had voted for war in the Senate—was that he would end the war in Iraq, “a war that should never have been authorized and never been fought.”

Now, with the retention of Gates at the Pentagon, and the widely reported offer of the State Department to Clinton—as well as the selection of a slew of pro-war figures for lesser national security positions—Obama is reassuring the military, the intelligence agencies and the ruling elite as a whole that he will be firmly committed to the defense of US imperialism, including clinging to every inch of territory and every drop of oil secured by the Bush administration’s criminal aggression in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I’ll tell them right now, that no honorable person can take the oath of office and do what the Left expects of him. Before they got their cold slap of reality, Obama got one, too. That anti-war stuff worked on the BDS sufferers in the Democrat Party, but it didn’t work in the general election. Obama hardly mentioned the war after he won the primaries. He knows what the Left won’t accept – Americans don’t want to suffer another post-defeat period like we did after Vietnam.

So, in a related piece, someone named Dee Knight writes that the key to ending the war is veterans and currently-serving military personnel;

Whether President Obama plans to live up to the promise or not is beside the point, especially for the GIs: they want to go home and they don’t want to wait. We should look closely at this. We need to assess the mood of the GIs and their families. We should not expect it to be uniform, but we can be sure there will be a surging mood to get out of Iraq . And a lot of GIs will want to get out of Afghanistan – or stay out of it – at least as strongly. This mood could take many forms: petitions, sit-downs, AWOLs, etc.

The vets’ and resistance movements should encourage the idea that the GIs can and will end the war NOW. And we should demand that the new president not only bring the troops home, but also:

Make a serious effort to heal the wounds of the vets who were forced to fight there;
Help vets get jobs and education;
Grant unconditional amnesty to those vets and resisters who are either in exile or jail/brig/stockade, or suffering the long-term effects of less than honorable discharges.

Granting amnesty to the criminals isn’t going to help the folks who’ve done their job. It won’t “heal their wounds” or help them get jobs and education. If one single event turned veterans against Jimmy Carter and the Democrats it was when Carter gave amnesty to draft dodgers. Many haven’t forgiven the Democrats since (it was what turned me away from Democrats). But the anti-war crowd has found their voice and rebuilt the momentum they lost after Vietnam. They’ve learned that they need a continuity of their movement beyond their political goals.

The Left’s refusal to turn loose of their anti-war blather at this point only reinforces our continued need to support the legitimate and proven VSOs as well as the new arrivals like Gathering of Eagles, Move America Forward and Eagles Up. Our side used to condemn them for not speaking up against the Clinton Wars, we’d be just as hypocritical if we didn’t continue to support the troops during an Obama Administration. The anti-war clowns are planning anti-war activities in the Spring and we need to continue to show up, to be seen and to be heard supporting the US war against terror.

This blog will continue in that endeavor – and we’ll continue to point out the idiots and ass clowns who try to undermine the morale and good order and discipline in the military.

Category: Antiwar crowd, Code Pink, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Liberals suck

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ponsdorf

Well said.

AW1 Tim

Yes, well said. Thanks.

I, too, have never forgiven Carter for his pardon, let alone any number of other things he did.

What pisses me off, however, what REALLY gets to me, is seeing this same deluded crowd of anti-American scum still waging their pathetic war against democracy. I had blood, paint, spit, and God knows what else, thrown on me by these @ss clowns more than 30 years ago for the daring to wear my Class-A’s onto a University Campus.

Now I have to watch my son endure the same sort of crap when he wears his uniform home on leave, and the time is fast approaching when there will be a terrible reckoning for these folks.

Respects,

Scrapiron

I served in the military under Dimmy Carter and haven’t voted for a democrat in a national election since. Now I will never vote for a democrat, local,state, or federal. BDS has turned them all just plain stupid.

streetsweeper

Excellent, Jonn! Excellent!

We still have the slight problem of motivating those sheeple afraid to stand and voice an opinion that our troops need to be supported and win!

Administrations come and go, it’s in History.

Communism however, has taken to wearing the wool of socialism. Socialism permeates our education systems, top to bottom.

The sheeple refuse to see even during this election they are being herded to the proverbial cliff…..I agree with scrapiron; BDS has turned all of ’em just plain stupid.

ArmySergeant

So wait, you’ll have to explain this one to me.

How is it patriotic to speak up against Clinton wars, but unpatriotic to speak up against Bush wars? Does the patriotism of anti-war sentiment change with the political party of the president?

Jonn wrote: Who said that? If there was any hypocrisy during the Clinton years, it was on your side when they didn’t raise a peep. I don’t remember the Right taking to the street to protest Clinton’s foreign policy escapades. I’m just reminding our side that even though we don’t like the C-I-C, we still need to support the mission and troops.

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Paul Couturier - OIF Vet

Jonn, count me in if there will be a PRO-AMERICA and PRO-TROOP response to ANSWER’s planned freak show for March in DC 😀

Marooned in Marin

Army Sergeant: Explain to me why the same Democrats who supported Clinton going after Iraq in 1998 and legislation such as the Iraq Liberation Act opposed the same effort when George W. Bush was President?

Raoul

ArmySergeant,

“Does the patriotism of anti-war sentiment change with the political party of the president?”

It does for the VVAW and VFP pukes that started IVAW.

In fact, I confronted one of Bill Perry’s Band of VFP Traitors about exactly about that down the last time the grave robbing ghouls where doing their phony tombstome thing at Independence Mall.

The dumb bastard even CONFIRMED that it was only when there was a war they opposed did they conduct these propoganda stunts. He blurted out that they did one for the USS Stark.

If you knew anthing about your leaders, you’re realize how daming an admission that was on his part.

You have no clue as to what patriotrism is, so I suggest that you start with a dictionary. Look up “patriot” and “patrioism” and then get back to us about whether the IVAW is in any way “patriotic”.

UpNorth

“patriotism of anti-war sentiments”? Army Sergeant, you’re dealing with an oxymoron right there. Marooned in Marin, all you’re gonna hear from AS is crickets, they can’t explain how it was OK for Clinton and the dems to demand the liberation of Iraq when he was CinC, but it became not OK when Bush became president. They were “for it(the war) before they were against it”.

ArmySergeant

Marin: No, you’re not going to hear crickets, because I’m not a party-line pusher. Whether Clinton or Bush did it, it’s equally wrong. Why wasn’t I out protesting Clinton? Well, first, I wasn’t in the military for much of the Clinton years. I barely had time to swear my enlistment oath to him before the administration changed. Secondly, I was in high school, and my political awareness at the time can most kindly be described as ‘lacking’.

Jonn: I believe I was misreading you, and thinking you were referring to GOE, etc, when saying “our side used to condemn them”.

Raoul: Patriotism is love of country-it does not specify blind love of country. Love does not equal enabling. As Teddy Roosevelt said, “To announce there must be no criticism of the President, and to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, it is morally treasonous to the American public.”