Yeah, That’s Just a F**king Brilliant Idea . . .
Multiple news sources (Fox News, the Army Times) are reporting that the current Administration is “nearing a decision” on providing training and equipment for “moderate elements” of the Syrian opposition.
And yeah: that “training” part means “boots on the ground”. As in Soldiers/Sailors/Airmen/Marines. Troops.
Hey, I get it that Assad is a thug, and hates the US. But the same is true of at least half of the Syrian opposition. And Assad doesn’t have links to al Qaeda, either – like many elements in the Syrian opposition do.
So I can’t really see how we have any proverbial “dog in that fight”; either way it turns out, we’re all but guaranteed to have a regime running Syria that hates the US. And a regime led by the Syrian opposition raises the possibility of Syria’s WMD’s falling into al Qaeda’s (or another Islamic extremist group’s) hands. Frankly, I think we may be better off with Assad the Bastard running that patch of Middle Eastern dirt.
If you seriously believe that at least some of the arms and equipment we provide to the Syrian opposition won’t end up in the hands of al Qaeda-linked elements – or that we won’t end up training a large number of folks who end up working with or for al Qaeda in the future – I’d like to talk to you about real estate. I can give you one helluva deal on a bridge.
This is IMO a monumentally stupid idea. Regarding Syria, Shakespeare had it right around 400 years ago: “A plage o’ both your houses.”
Category: "Teh Stoopid", Foreign Policy, Syria
And you were wondering if this administration would be willing to commit troops to a raid in Nigeria? I think that you now have your answer.
Since we really seem to have a good handle on who is who in the zoo over there, putting our troops on the ground seems to be an EXCELLENT idea. And by excellent I mean fucked up as a football bat.
Now we are going to go train the Syrian opposition, a hotbed of anti-American jihadists. Un-fucking-real. Just when I think our military cannot get fucked with any more, this administration sinks to a new low. What is the end state here? Can anyone tell me? This is going to blow up in our faces and we are going to regret this for a long time.
Don’t worry, the trainees will be “carefully vetted members of the Free Syrian Army”.
Words fail me. There are no good guys in Syria on either side. The administration must think we can buy Islamic goodwill by supporting the opposition. This is truly a bad idea that won’t end well.
Aren’t we still fighting the last group of “freedon fighters” that we trained and supplied. With any luck we can use Pakistan as an ally and a go between so things go real smooth.
This administration actions are beyond comprehension. There is no real rhyme or reason to anything that they do. I am sure Obama did not know about any of this until it was reported in the media though.
The clown in the White House is making Bill “Dammit. No biting, Monica!” Clinton’s aspirin-factory demolition look good. Oh, and today, at West Point, we’re told, The Emperor is, at long last, going to reveal the best-kept secret of his way-too-long administration: US foreign policy.
2/17 Air Cav…”The clown in the White House is making Bill “Dammit. No biting, Monica!” Clinton’s aspirin-factory demolition look good.”
I did not think that would ever be possible but your words are true. Obama cares nothing for American blood because in my heart I believe he does not like America as it stands. I believe were it up to him, he would do away with the entire Constitution and make us a Monarchy. Ruled first by him of course. I’ve said it before, before this asshole is out of office he is going to have dead Americans coming home from Africa, Syria and possibly somewhere in the Pacific Rim. He does not care about anything, anymore than what Michelle tells him is trending on Facebook and Twitter. I could care less than less about Syria or how they kill each other. It’s not our problem, it’s not our fight. Screw them unless he wants another Afghanistan in Syria. Sure as shit and two is four, this asshole will have MORE boots on the ground, more weapons in the wrong hands, more of the wrong people trained to kill us and then will come the call for a Brigade or even a Division to, you know, keep “us” secure over there while we enable more rag headed terrorists to hunt and kill Americans. I hate Obama with a passion and I hate Kerry and the ass kissers in the Pentagon just as much. I rarely use the term hate for anything or anyone. Just not in my nature to hate. But for him, it applies I am sad to say.
I still say we let those clowns kill each other till there’s nobody left, then roll in with a troop of Girl Scouts.
It was posited today that perhaps we are just offering enough support to the opposition to create and sustain a meat grinder where all of the islamists can go to be killed by Assad’s army. I would hope that is the case but I don’t think the Obama administration has that kind of diabolical bent. That sounds like something a Spec 4 would come up with on the spur of the moment. Like putting a booby trap in the garbage dump to snare the local VC scroungers. I cant believe the current pentagon princes could be that innovative.
Our current NCA reminds me of a 6 year old boy in a Boeing 777 flight simulator. “Hey, flip the switches and watch the pretty lights!”
I wouldn’t trust this guy with a potato gun, and he commands the most powerful military force ever known to mankind. Ouch.
Fjardeson You got that right! I wouldn’t trust him to change my tire or operate a roll of Saran Wrap, much less lead America into ANY conflict. Why? Because all of these “conflicts” are of HIS and MICHELLE’S and KERRY’S making and whims, not the needs of America or our security. NONE OF THEM ARE!
Maybe we could just build a wall around Syria, nobody gets in or out, and sell every man woman and child all the weapons they can carry. Last one standing gets the country. Could be profitable.
This doesn’t surprise me. I had a conversation with some people last September when the whole Syria situation was deteriorating and Obama was considering military action. I told those individuals that I foresaw us having “conventional” troops on the ground within the next year. This news, if true, validates my assessment back then. Gotta say, I hate being right sometimes.
LastBrotherHome…I agree. I foresaw the same inevitable outcome back when this noise first started. Obama likes looking strong because he is in mind, heart and soul a weak man. He overcompensates for his inner inadequacies by committing American lives to meaningless issues. Why? Because he believes American blood, limbs and lives are HIS to spend and use for his good pleasure. Not for our nation’s best interests. He truly has no idea what America’s best interests are because he cannot think for himself. He has to rely on the likes of Kerry, the wimps in the Pentagon and the rest of his staff, to tell him what is important. Problem is, what they believe is important is keeping Democrats in power. Period. if it costs American lives, then to them, so be it. In their thoughts, “what else is the military good for except to fight and die for what WE tell them is worth fighting and dying for. After all, THEY are OUR dog’s of war, to use and spend at our leisure and pleasure”.
God help and bless America in the coming two years. More than that, God bless and save our troops from NEEDLESS death for the political whims of a monarch at heart in the Oval Office.
It’s kind of like saying that we’ll help the “good Nazis” fight the “bad Nazis.”
JAGC…As usual I was too verbose and you were succinct and to the point.
I was wondering wtf a “moderate” Islamist was
They will cut your head off quickly … reducing any undo pain and suffering?
I don’t know!
I doubt that anyone on either side of the fence in Syria needs ‘training’ at killing the other side. They’ve been doing just fine on their own so far.
No, we do not belong there, unless it is to aid and support Israel. The Middle East has never actually been at peace in its entire existence, going back to the time of Gilgamesh, and it probably will not find peace in the lifetime of anyone reading this.
We do not belong there in any capacity. Restlessness is spreading through Turkey as well. Do we go into Turkey if Syria proves untenable?
There are NO moderate elements in what is going on in Syria. There are NO moderate elements anywhere in the Middle East. If that damned fool actually thinks that there is such a thing, he will bite off a whole lot more than he can chew.
We have no dog in that fight. We need to stay out of it, period.
Giving weapons to sh1tbags who hate America, then training them in their use?
Seems like I’ve seen this playbook before and the outcome sucked then as well….we never learn what should be so obvious. Politicians love playing at politics, even at the expense of their own countrymen.
If we must do anything at all, I support the “nuke it from orbit” option. Putting troops in there will just expose them to thousands of those little face-hugging bastards and their slimy, multi-mandibled brethren. Plus you know Obama’s rules of engagement will say that nobody is allowed to load his weapon until the larva actually tears its way out of some poor bastard’s chest…
Wait, aw shit! You mean this is real life? How the hell can this sound like a good idea to anybody? In that case, definitely either nuke it or stay the hell away!
Americans are being asked to leave Libya NOW.
http://news.msn.com/world/us-citizens-urged-to-leave-libya
And here, I can’t tell if bodaprez is waffling, obfuscating, or contradicting himself:
http://news.msn.com/us/obama-us-must-lead-globally-but-show-restraint
He gives a speech at West Point that says one thing and then sure as God made kittens and unicorns, he will fuck up the execution portion and it will look nothing like what he outlined in his speech. That is not foreign policy. It is the work of rank amateurs.
You must admit that handling Saran Wrap is hard. BZ
++1. Now, that’s funny!
Once Assad is gone, what will happen? The jihadist rebels will kill the moderates and take over.
That’s what the world needs, another islamic theocracy.
Oh, God.
Here we go with the government playing with Islam “moderates” again.
That worked out so well in the past.
FFS this country never learns.
Its okay guys, the military won’t have to worry about going there. According to Obama at West Point, we’ll be getting used as the new “Green” Warriors and wear EPA patches and everything. Our job will be to fight for the national defense against climate change…
Anything else on the liberal agenda we haven’t been used for yet?
“Can you say “VietNam, Redux”, boys and girls? I knew you could.”
If Assad wins he will be incharge of a rubble heap that stinks of rotting corpses. If the opposition wins they will have no reason to stick around to rebuild the rubble pile or clean up those corpses. They will take their new weapons and look for another nation to turn to rubble. They may turn against Jordan or even Israel, both of which they hate. We may yet get that nuclear demonstration that the world fears. I just hope the Israelis have enough warheads left to give Iran a good dose of that medicine.