Snowden still embellishing
Anon in Jax sends us a link to CNN which reports that Edward Snowden did an interview with NBC Nightly News during which he tries to enhance his creds with the American people;
“I was trained as a spy in sort of the traditional sense of the word — in that I lived and worked undercover, overseas, pretending to work in a job that I’m not — and even being assigned a name that was not mine,” Snowden said.
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Snowden questions Putin on camera“Now, the government might deny these things. They might frame it in certain ways, and say, oh, well, you know, he’s a low-level analyst.
“But what they’re trying to do is they’re trying to use one position that I’ve had in a career, here or there, to distract from the totality of my experience, which is that I’ve worked for the Central Intelligence Agency, undercover, overseas.
“I’ve worked for the National Security Agency, undercover, overseas. And I’ve worked for the Defense Intelligence Agency as a lecturer at the Joint Counterintelligence Training Academy, where I developed sources and methods for keeping our information and people secure in the most hostile and dangerous environments around the world.”
Snowden continued: “So when they say I’m a low-level systems administrator, that I don’t know what I’m talking about, I’d say it’s somewhat misleading.”
Yeah, like he tried to tell us that he “trained for Special Forces” when in actuality, he never made it through basic combat training in the Army – you know the training that everyone goes through to be a soldier. He dropped out of high school, he dropped out community college, finally opting to get a GED. And now we’re supposed to believe that he was a James Bond spy and that he was so good at it that he trained other spies.
Then he uses the story that we’ve heard so often here, that the government will deny it because he’s so super-secret and a special snowflake. Or maybe he’s just a lying sack of shit who has a high opinion of himself and he thinks we’re so stupid we’ll believe him.
Category: Phony soldiers
Hey, I was a 35 Delta; that makes me Derek Flint, right ?
Well, I was a 1235 Charlie under the old AFSC system. Does that make me Buck Rogers?
He’s no MEMS instructor.
How about latrine maintanence instructor? 😎
I know a few who worked in that field. Snowflake, you gotta stop your bedwetting and living in that fantastic fantasy world you’ve been building around yourself in Mother Russia, pal. If Snowflake was soooo damn good at protecting the IT infrastructure, how come Manning was able to slip all his shit past them to Wiki?
Something else just occurred to me…Why on God’s green Earth is Putin still entertaining this asshat?
A trained spy? GMAFB. I’m guessing Snowden couldn’t find the Farm starting at the marked exit on I-64.
My guess is that Putin’s doing this because (1) he enjoys giving the current administration the finger, (2) because he can, (3) treating Snowden well encourages the next turncoat with useful information, and (4) they aren’t sure if he’s holding out and keeping something in reserve.
There’s speculation that Snowflake was working for Russian intelligence from the start. I’m not altogether convinced that’s not true.
Wouldn’t shock me, Nicki. Historically, they’ve been reasonably successful in recruiting moles.
They have. And reasonably good at placing them as well. And the fact that he basically weaseled the PKI password out of his dumbass coworker indicates a certain ability to elicit info, or at least willingness to help.
I don’t have any proof, obviously, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
That’s pretty standard ‘social engineering’ — most geeks who work in information security would be familiar with the concept, and reasonably social ones can pull it off pretty easily. Hell, read about the Robin Sage debacle for more tales of idiocy: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/18/fictitious-femme-fatale-fooled-cybersecurity/?page=all
(And yes, the name was chosen deliberately.)
As for Snowden, I tend to think he’s simply ignorant, not intentionally embellishing — I’m quite sure he was given covers of varying degrees, and he worked in the IC, so to him, that equated ‘spy training’. It’s a far cry from what actual CIA case officers do, but to the layman the distinction isn’t always clear.
I dunno…. most geeks at the Fort can barely ask someone for a date, let alone finagle a PKI password out of a co-worker!
You know what I’d LOVE to get? I’d like to get the hallway file on this douchebag from CIA.
You and me both, dear lady – you and me both.
Cuz he’s draining him dry of intel?! Im sure the reason Putin went into the Ukraine is some analysis of that “theoretical” action showed the US doing nothing – and that report was in Snowden’s stolen data.
Note to NBC: No one gives a shit.
Turd burglar was a spy but for the other side.
P.S we still need to hang em.
Snowflakey hasn’t had his picture in the papers lately. He misses the attention he was getting, so he’s gonna get some now.
Seriously, I have never seen anyone as ridiculous as some of the people who inhabit the sphere of embellishment now.
What is it with people like Snowden and Manning? Don’t they understand “CHAIN OF COMMAND” and “PROPER PROCEDURE”? How many of our troops / intelligence officers out there are under threat because of these asshats?
READ THE MANUAL you idiots. If something evil is going on, there is a procedure to fix it. Use it. Don’t be a publicity hound. (Like most military phonies… weird parallel, that…)
Putin is no fool, I wonder what will happen to Snowflake once Putin has used him up, will he just be deported back to the US or will he die in a car crash?
I’m thinking it will be natural causes, an previously unknown heart problem undiagnosed from birth manifesting itself during a routine workout.
Proud…A car crash? I don’t think Putin would waste a car. More likely, two in the back of the head then found floating in a river somewhere. 😀
The Russians are far more subtle than that these days, Sparks. They have been for decades. Just ask Alexander Litvinenko and Georgi Markhov.
Well, maybe ask their survivors instead. Neither of those two individuals is around these days to answer relevant questions.
I guess you could ask Vladimir Kostov, though; he survived his 1978 assassination attempt. If he’s still alive today, that is – and if you could find him. (smile)
Hondo you are correct. Maybe he will just disappear…to a gulag in Siberia! Who has better deniability than Putin in his own country.
Putin, “I don’t know, one days he’s here the next days he’s gone. Who knows, maybe your CIAs came and got him? Anyway he is not Russian citizen so my hands are clean. Maybe hes will shows up at a…a…how you say….Starbucks, da, Starbucks, somewhere.” “If you will pardon me it is 230 and I have a Chechen waiting for my questions.”
Putin, “BORIS! How many times I tells you…NO vise grips! Pliers. Big pliers with da heats resistances grips! Never dos vise grips! Gets too hots!
Naw, you guys have no imagination.
To the east and south of Moscow lie millions of acres of kapocheks, or national forest preserves, an immense wilderness bigger than the Amazon rain forest. There are groves of trees so thick that a large animal like a moose or human can’t get through them. Their trunks are enormous: not just several feet around, but large enough to rival the giant sequoia in California. There is a lot of illegal logging that goes on there, and deep in the forests of Siberia are villages in which the residents are completely self-sufficient, make or hunt for everything they need, and only contact ‘civilization’ to acquire specific things like light bulbs or batteries for their fishing boats.
If the peat bogs get too dry during the summer, the peat will ignote spontaneously, as it did two years ago.
If you really want to get rid of someone like Precious Snowflake, just drop him off on the Road of Bones near the border of one of those kapocheks. If he survives one full year, I’d be surprised.
Ex-PH2 Good idea. He’d be lost without his laptop. 😀
Like most twentysomethings today, his head would most likely implode after more than five minutes without a laptop, smartphone, or iPod!
I read somewhere a while back where he said that would be the worst punishment for him, not to have a computer or access to the Internet.
Yup, first thing on the list if we get his traitorous ass back!
That, plus pencils, no erasers, paper, and stamped envelopes. And access for only 10 minutes per day on a payphone.
The Russians seem very fond of polonium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko_poisoning
I didn’t see this interview. My Dad and I came up with two ideas on how it should go.
My Dad: Snowden just sits there and says nothing.
Me: The CIA bust in and arrest him.
Again, how the hell do these guys get these jobs!?! I don’t get it, I need a copy of this dudes resume, he is obviously doing something right or the hiring agency for these companies are just god awful and don’t follow up on any claims and seem to think that no one lies on a resume….
“where I developed sources and methods for keeping our information and people secure in the most hostile and dangerous environments around the world.”
Well, apparently he didn’t listen up to his own sources and methods. He’s a traitor, plain and simple and if Putin sends him back, he should get the death sentence.
Queef.
Green Thumb…You beat me to it. I’ll have to say Bungholer!
Aiding traitors disguised as a “news organization”.
I bet if this were Fox News they’d have already been lined up against the wall and shot.
For a guy that Putin doesn’t neccessarily like, he sure does let Snowden do pretty much what he wants. I’m with Nicki & those that think this assclown was flipped by Mother Russia BEFORE he did anything else.
April 6,2014, video conference for human rights activists in CHICAGO…
April 7, 2014, awarded Ridenour for truth telling film…
And all the other interviews and conferences he’s been featured in or on…
If one is so inclined, ‘useful” info can be found on TASS
Jonn/TAH Admins,
If you really want to know how service members/vets feel about you guys..
http://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/26n9fv/thoughts_on_thisainthell/
I tend to believe he was trained as a spy. I just he was trained by us. Someone may have trained and employed him to spy ans whoever it was is not one of our friends. More reason to shoot him if we ever get a chance to squeeze his nuts.
“I just don’t believe he was trained by us.”
Sorry, thats what comes with thinking faster than I can type.
Everything is a cycle in life eventually we will be friendly with Russia again and they will hand snowflake over to us,,and we will make a spectacle of his punishment to deter anyone else from doing it,,but I tend to think a car crash or a unknown heath problem is would be faster and justified,,snowflake said in an interview the U.S doesn’t know how much info he stole,,so to me that’s all the more reason to get rid of him now ,fast,sure there would be a cretin amount of public out cry,,but it would pass and be all but forgotten,,
Thought I would clarify here in case anybody is still following this asshat.
Snowden was not an intelligence analyst, he was an IT worker on a contract for an intelligence agency. In order to qualify as an intelligence analyst, one needs to graduate from formal intelligence training from the military or the federal government. While intelligence analysts and collectors work with computers to do their jobs, they are not IT people. Snowden was purely an IT professional with access to classified information, nothing more, nothing less.
Furthermore, CIA case officers are not spies. Anybody that actually works for the intelligence community and calls himself a “spy” is delusional or of questionable credibility. Case officers are usually working officially out of an embassy and have a cover job as a diplomat. This means many of them are not typically military veterans and went to prestigious colleges so as to fit in with that diplomatic environment. Their job is to talk with clandestine sources (usually indigenous people with access to information of interest to the USG) before heading back to a secure facility to type up a report about what was discussed. It is an important job, but it is more journalism than James Bond. The ones who are actually running around doing spy shit are the indigenous locals who are recruited to gather the information, not professional case officers who would look very out of place trying to “blend in” with a terrorist cell. Former case officers often run around telling the public they used to be spies because it sells books and most people aren’t familiar with intelligence work.