Absolute lunacy
The other day I wrote that I don’t use blogs for sources anymore because some conservative bloggers have crossed over to the lunatic side of the discussion. Here’s another source I don’t use; The Examiner, not to be confused with the Washington Examiner. They reported as news yesterday a rumor generated by a cluster of crackpots that Eric Holder had ordered drone strikes on the Bundy Ranch. None of those people have any real inside knowledge, it’s just what they had hoped would happen, so they made it so. Here are the perpetrators;
On Friday, John Jacob Schmidt of Radio Free Redoubt said that according to Stewart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers, Attorney General Eric Holder has approved drone strikes against the Bundy ranch to take place some time in the next 48 hours. According to Schmidt, the information came from a source Oath Keepers has within the Department of Defense.
That source, according to the report, allegedly said Attorney General Eric Holder authorized what is known as a “hot drone strike” against the ranch. Such a strike, he added would effectively kill everyone at the ranch.
Schmidt said that as far as he could determine, there has been no attempt to follow through with the alleged threat. He also expressed hope that a planned strike against Americans on U.S. soil could be averted.
Yeah, the Oathkeepers, our sworn enemies led by former Ron Paul staffer, Stewart Rhodes, were the “source” for rumor. I wouldn’t believe Rhodes, an Adam Kokesh supporter, if my life depended on it. If you read further down the “article” you’ll see there no real reason to believe the story, it’s just a bunch of crackpots trying to stir up some shit;
Leslie Bishop Paul, the national administrator of Oath Keepers, said on Facebook the information “may, or may not” be valid, but hoped that “sunlight’ would cause federal agencies to back down from such an act.
“Pray it isn’t true and pray it never happens,” Paul added.
Liberty Beacon went on to say that such a move by the government would be the straw that broke the proverbial camel’s back. The blog went on to suggest that the information might be intended to provoke violence, giving the government reason to impose martial law.
So they have no real evidence that it ever happened but the cranks are all willing to fly off the handle. Since when does anyone in the media not check their sources? Well, that’s the modus operandi of The Examiner. Their intent can only be to inflame low information voters of the Right (yeah, we’ve got some over here on our side, too).
I’ll admit that Eric Holder is a despicable person, but he does enough real shit that we don’t have to make shit up. Personally, I think that the Oathkeepers are more despicable.
Be careful, it’s a jungle out there.
Category: Oath Keepers, Shitbags
Would that be John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt? Because, oddly enough, that’s my name too. I mean, whenever we go out, the people always shout, “John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt!”
What a coincidence! Assclowns, the lot of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39WPDCPq4c
Now, just try to get that song out of your head!
You are evil, and must be destroyed!
Val, if it’s any consolation, I did suffer a self-inflicted wound – I’ve had that damn jingle going through my head all day. Punch, brothers, punch!
Oh no!
Flagwaver…I had “Lunatic Fringe” stuck in my head because of rb325th’s post below. Now I have THIS STUCK!! Thanks. I’m going to Youtube “Lunatic Fringe” again to see if I can clear my head now. 😀
Oops… my bad.
((as I laugh while enjoying my coffee this morning))
Oh, good lord! It’s from that Joe Newby moron! I’ve had my run-ins with this dildo.
http://thelibertyzone.com/2012/02/18/joe-newby-is-an-idiot/
His comments after the blog entry are particularly illuminating as to how much of a shitbird he is! He actually got booted off the Republican Liberty Caucus page by my husband, because he’s a douchetard.
Ha, I thought that name sounded familiar. I’d forgotten about that incident…..
This is one of the sources used by the Men In Black.
The Lunatic Fringe of the far right are a freaking bad joke, but unfortunately there are enough mindless drones out there willing to believe anything they see that fits their agenda. Hell, they may not even believe it completely but they will be promoting it just the same because it is against Obama and Holder… neither of whom I have any love for, but as Jonn pointed out there are plenty of real reasons to go after them on.
This inventing stories shit is outrageous.
rb325th…Thanks bud. Now I’ll have Red Rider’s Lunatic Fringe stuck in my head all day! 😀
No problem, anytime brother…
hey, on a related subject. Wonder why it is groups like “Oathkeepers” attract so many freaking fakes and wannabes? Came across another this morning who was responding on facebook to a post about a pipe bomb incident in Marshfield, Ma.
According to him it was;
” Tim Gatzke Sr. Do to recent history I would look at people with ties/connections to “FBI informants/patsies/provocateurs. or maybe CIA trained foreigner operating domestically to scare to population so they can justify the roll out of their police state. As like the Boston Bombers.”
Of course if you go to his profile page he has a photo of himself wearing a baseball hat with trident of course, as well as photos of the Triple Canopy over SF Patch, and the SF DUI.
https://www.facebook.com/tim.gatzke/about#!/tim.gatzke
rb325th…Yep, he’s a winner in the dumbass of the day contest. I KNEW IT TOO! As soon as I saw the photo Welcome to Idaho, I immediately thought, yep another Idaho “Potato Head” on the loose.
It seems like we busted an OKer several years back who was a State Department commander, or whatever they call it. I think it was before we got into the poser-busting business. But they were supporting IVAW and Adam Kokesh back then and we had a big brooha-ha and Rhodes had to backtrack because we influenced so many members to resign.
Of course, he is just doing it to “honor them”…. Bull shit. Dumbass likes fronting the image because it makes him feel more manly… I bet putting on that SEAL Team cap makes him shoot better too.
“Tim Gatzke Sr. Don’t change the subject
What I love about his facebook page is how open it is to anyone. Lowest privacy settings possible. If I thought the Government was as evil as he does I probably wouldn’t even have a facebook page.
I need a break from reality for a little while; can I have some of whatever the hell it is they’re on??
Sure, it isn’t hard. Suck down the contents of five helium filled balloons, then sniff a tube of glue, finish by sticking your nose near a car exhaust.
No OT, you don’t want any of what they’re on. It leads to paranoia and a thinly veiled sociopathic desire to kill with impunity.
I live in the middle of what they call “the American Redoubt.” If anybody does get droned, it’ll be us — because of these lunatics and their apocalyptic fantasies.
Pinto Nag… so are you saying NOT to huff my model airplane glue while I’m taking pain meds? 😀 Who knew. Maybe now I’ll remember yesterday.
Another source for comedy gold.
And you wonder if they simply do it to stir things up, or if they are dead serious… and then you realize that they are so completely out of touch with reality that they make the National Enquirer look like a stock market analysis.
gotta steal that analogy… gawd, that is priceless!
If you think of each us being somewhere on a continuum from right to left, the ends of that line may actually wrap around at the ends to form the loony bin behind the rest of us. That loony bin is filled with extremists of all sorts who cannot form a rational thought among them.
There is merit in that thesis, OWB.
The extreme “right” and the extreme “left” both share a common trait: the love of unlimited state authority coupled with the willingness to destroy all who dissent. For archetypical examples see Hitler, Adolph, and Stalin, Joseph.
Other than their labels, I see precious little difference between the two.
“Capitalism is exploitation of men by other men. Communism, is of course, the exact opposite.”
Like you stated, Jonn. There’s enough real crap to discuss, no need to fabricate fantasy out of whole cloth. I truly do not understand how anyone can adopt “the end justifies the means” mindset.
Truth will ALWAYS be better than a lie.
OldSoldier54…”The End Justifying The Means” is the mantra of many. I see it more and more in the younger generations but it was alive and well in my day and among my peers as well. It is definitely the first verse in the song of every poser. I don’t understand it, I guess I never will. But to me, it is one kind of insult to claim for instance, my big stickler, The Purple Heart. It is another lever deeper of insult to not only claim such an award, which is EARNED but to go to an already overcrowded, behind schedule, VA facility where those in true need are waiting months and steal their time and money from them…and we taxpayers.
The end justifying the means will always be with us, normally as the last-ditch rationale of the greedy and vacuous when they have no credible moral rationale for their actions.
“My sister’s husband’s uncle’s best friend’s brother’s sister heard from her cousin’s best friend’s mother’s third husband that his stepdaughter by wife #2 said that she overheard half of a cell phone conversation at the supermarket that….”
Okay. That’s a source. Let’s run the story!
2/17 Air Cav…LMAO. You must be talking the NY Times as well.
Damn,
And my stock broker told me reaper stock was going to sky-rocket, so to speak. Guess I shouldn’t have moved my capital from contrail mapping.
“Contrail”? Don’t you mean “chemtrail”? (smile)
This kind of nonsense ain’t new. After the Ok. City Federal Building was bombed there were people on ham radio broadcasting that the UN “Black Helicopters” were flying around the site and unloading “The Blue Helmets” who were going to take over Oklahoma and other such nonsense. These rants were picked up by local news or talk radio broadcasters in some cases and usually but not always said to be nonsense… which of course was proof of the coverup. And of course none of these guys were actually in Oklahoma at the time of their broadcast but that can’t stop the true believer. Reason I recall it so much is one of these kooks called himself “Mark From Michigan”. Yet another black eye to my home state.
As stated by our host – there’s enough crap going on that you don’t have to make stuff up.
This pains me to no end, but I’ll be damned if I don’t actually agree with ONE thing Hillary Clinton recently said:
“A lot of serious news reporting has become more entertainment driven and more opinion-driven as opposed to factual,” she said. “People book onto the shows, political figures, commentators who will be controversial who will be provocative because it’s a good show. You might not learn anything but you might be entertained and I think that’s just become an unfortunate pattern that I wish could be broken.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/23/hillary-clinton-todays-media-is-more-entertainment-less-facts/
Stopped clock principle, nbcguy54. Stopped clock principle.
Yeah, like when the Benghazi assault occurred. She was only too happy to have the media lap up the bullshit. Now, she wants hard news reporting. F her.
FC1(sw)… While there are a lot of the lunatics within the Oathkeepers (black helicopters and alien mother ships) there are also a lot of pro 2A, Conservative, Constitutionalists (myself included) that believe the Oath we all took “to support and defend” does not expire EVER. Blanket statements like they’re all crackpots or making the comparison that OK’s are more despicable than Eric Holder… REALLY? I actually enjoy this page, love what you do to crush stolen valor fucks, but you lost me there. I’m really curious to know more of the back story behind, “…the Oathkeepers, our sworn enemies led by former Ron Paul staffer, Stewart Rhodes…” what prompted this level of hatred?
Just read the posts at the “Oathkeepers” category link and all will be made clear. Most of us take our oaths seriously, but we don’t need to be a member of a camouflaged Ron Paul group to make it clear. And as it has been pointed out, they’re shot through with pretenders and fakes. I’ll admit that when I first read about them back in 2009, I was tempted to join, but the more I looked into them, the more I distanced myself from them. Then one day they posted a “testimonial” from an IVAW member and there was a blog war between OKers and TAHers. During that blog war, Stewart Rhodes admitted that he supported Adam Kokesh during Kokesh’s Congressional campaign (like Ron Paul did) – the same reason I won’t support Rand Paul – ever. Then oathkeepers opened a Kokesh campaign table at the CPAC that year. Their “volunteer of the year” that year was a civilian (not military or an LEO) who openly campaigned for Kokesh. Kokesh and IVAW, you might remember, encouraged members of the military to desert and ignore their oaths. Hardly something that a group who calls themselves oathkeepers should support. And then there is this story.
I am an Oathkeeper (not the lunatic fringe type) I am a free thinker, I will support whom ever I chose based on my beliefs and my assessment of how they will uphold the Oath.
Blanket statements anger me, might as well have called me a Racist because I’m White, same broad brush, just different paint.
I’ll look into the link you Jonn Lilyea suggested, see what all this fuss is about…
Fingers move faster than the brain…
*edit* I’ll look into the link Jonn Lilyea suggested, see what all this fuss is about… ***
Yeah, well, you see in the first line that I quoted in this article that the founder and leader of Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, started this drone rumor in the first place, right?
Search, reveals lots of Kokesh hate (agreed) and lots of IVAW hate (agreed) and a lot of 20 degrees of seperation connections to the OK. Again Broad brushes… that’s all I’m saying.
As to OK being rampant with frauds, probably more than a few, but then agian DAV just got hit with another one, we bounced one out of the VFW recently… many orgs have people that slip through…
All TAHer’s are just lunatic keyboard rambo’s hiding behind stolen valor…LOL j/k, but that’s a Broad brush statement…
Yes I saw, the link to Stewart, he is of the Alex Jones… black helicopter mother ship crowd… what can I say. Not all OK’s follow lock step in that crazyness…
I don’t know what all of you are talking about. Mr. Holder has my vote for President if he drones these truth molesters. Why, think of the ammo prices! Without these morons hoarding it, they’ll be a fraction of what they are now!
Assuming for a second that a drone strike is ordered (no way is this true), who the hell would they find actually carry it out? It’s a US citizen on US soil–and one who doesn’t even seem to have done anything remotely violent. I can imagine using a drone to monitor activity on the land in question, but that’s about it.
Like Randy Weaver mainly just took a hacksaw to a shotgun? Or they can’t find anyone who would do such a thing… what was the name, Lon Horiuchi? Ancient history and not relevant… but I would not think “no one would do that” – they can and will.
To answer your question about who would carry it out, I would say Homeland Security.
Honestly righty wackos are far more tolerable than lefty wackos which seek to impose and/or restrict rights.
There is a huge difference between bunker radio network reporting the feds are in the bushes than MSNBC saying how citizens need to be denied constitutional rights to protect the children because right wing veterans are the biggest threat to national security.
MSNBC during the Bush years was basically The Examiner on steroids.
I find them no more tolerable. They wrap themselves in the flag in order to justify some bogus ideology based on myths and junk law. Many of them are nothing short of racist, white separatist, etc… as well.
I have no more use for a right wing nutjob than I do for a left wing nutjob. Neither one is any good for this country.
“Neither one is any good for this country.”
Yep.
ACTUALLY! Those on the so-called far right are in fact, left loons that are busy making the conservatives look as bad as they possibly can. Be they Ron Paulan or LaRouche or one of the other loon outfits, all they are there to do is stir shit up, wave racist signage and keep the voting public divided in their eternal quest for a “true, liberty state”.