Agenda Confirmed; Mechanism Identified?

| January 9, 2013

 

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”

Gov. Andrew Cuomo, D-N.Y.

Yeah, he was allegedly talking  last week about a new potential ban on “assault weapons” (whatever the hell those are) might work in NY.  But everyone knows that’s merely a convenient “stalking horse” for their real agenda:  gutting the 2nd Amendment.

But he’s apparently not alone.  As Jonn noted here a few minutes ago, it looks like that “great scholar” Biden is also considering recommending the POTUS practice legislation via Executive Order on this issue.  I’m guessing Joe the Scholar is recommending that since he knows chances of getting any kind of meaningful Federal gun control law passed anytime soon are about the same as those of a June or July snowfall in Phoenix, AZ.  Even many of his Democratic colleagues aren’t that crazy.

But what does the Left have to lose?  When you can’t get what you want legally, illegal subterfuge is just about all you have left.

Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists

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Common Sense

@46 – love that movie. Since we’re Colorado natives, we all know that’s exactly what we would do in a similar situation.

Just Plain Jason

That is why I will never register a gun, unfortunately all of mine have been lost in a tragic fishing accident.

Twist

Since, apparantly all guns are capabale of acting on their own, mine decided they didn’t like my wife’s poperie and decided to walk out to the lake and jump in.

cannoncocker

Bringing an opinion from the other side of the aisle and presenting it rationally is one thing. Coming on here just to intentionally troll us is different. Having no substance, no argument, and no desire to engage in spirited debate is immature and childish. Typical internet tough guy. Nothing to do in real life, no ambition, no real world experience outside of the 4 different KFC’s he’s been fired from. No desire to learn, or to research subjects in an attempt to educate both himself and us. Just trolling for cheap thrills because he has nothing else. On the bright side, this behavior shows that he is likely too lazy to vote anyway, because that would involve seeing sunlight or climbing stairs or some form of effort which is just too much work. So I guess we should be relieved in a way. You all know who I’m talking about.

USMCE8Ret

@54 – You beat me to it. Thanks!

streetsweeper

I tried like a son of gun to get my .45ACP do the self loading and shoot on its own routine. I am damn disappointed in that pistol. It finally let me down. I wonder if its too late to get a refund, now.

Powerpoint Ranger

Joe (RE #37),

What you do with a pair of Oxen is between you, other consenting adults, and possibly the local laws and regulations of your state or locality. Don’t ask, don’t tell man…

cannoncocker

@56 streetsweeper

It probably didn’t look scary enough. Try spray painting it black and gluing some scary looking eyes to it, then it will load itself and take over a small 3rd world country on its own.

teddy996

@58- bayonet lug. It’s all about the bayonet lug.

UpNorth

Mine were also lost in a kayaking accident. Report it? No sir, there is no requirement in the law to report a lost weapon, so I didn’t. Best of luck in finding those things, though. When I lost the weapons, I disabled all of the ammo and took it to the landfill.
Hey Joey, as for C&C, ever heard of a cell phone? Texting? Word of mouth?

RM3(SS)

Be afraid folks. I currently work at a 3 letter agency and contingency plans are being discussed. This is real.

Twist

I tried to teach my .45 to walk my Lab, but since that gun wouldn’t learn I had to take it back. I guess I had an untrainable innanamate object.

Twist

Or I could mean inanimate object. Please excuse my lack of spelling tonight.

FltMedic

Well this is a fight that’s been a long time coming, the good news is that libratards hate and are scared of guns. So most will be a non-issue.

What scares the devil out of me is how the sheeple will react and go along with the lunacy. But that’s ok, revolutions happen with small bands of folks who know how to take control during a power vacuum.

B Woodman

Bring.It.
To Joe and all other Big Gubbment trolls:
“If the law does not protect me from thee, it does not protect thee from me.”

Tx gunne

They can pass what ever they want to be it a law a turd or a kidney stone. I’m not turning in shit. From my cold dead hands!!!

MAJike

I won’t submit. I won’t retreat. I aim to misbehave.

NHSparky

You know, if I had any weapons, this would be the part where I look those fuckers in the eye and say, “Molon Labe, motherfuckers.”

Sadly, I lost all mine in a bizzare lobstering incident in Maine a few years back and just never got the time to go to Kittery to replace them, dammit.

Bam Bam

I think the part I’m concerned about is those of us living on post. As a commander I have been seeing a ton of my guys coming in to register weapons on post and part of me is like… Are you sure you wanna do that?! But word from higher is “if you get busted with no registration your ass is grass”. If you live off post you are good but on post its required. Of course the CG here tried to make EVERYONE register but a grass roots effort by those who know the law put a stop to that. It’s shitty…

It’s a shame that people like joe, that have probably not lifted a finger to do any one positive thing for this nation, are causing this much agitation and issue for millions of innocent people who want nothing more than to live their lives and enjoy the rights that their forefathers bought for them with blood. This nation is a beacon for the rest of the world, even when we are at our WORST, we are better than anywhere else on Earth. The continued immigration from all over proves this. So as someone said above, Joe, shut the fuck up, adults are talking, talking about saving your ass from your own ignorance and stupidity. Remove rose colored glasses and take a good look around, cause loads of shit are falling all around you.

PhillyandBCEagles

I proactively destroyed my own before it could come to life and kill me in my sleep before shooting up a crowded public place, as it certainly would have sooner or later.

SteveS

I lost my guns in a poker game with Medea Benjamin. No, wait… they were beaten into plowshares. No, wait… uh, what was that again?
@61: does this three letter agency really plan on hitting the streets with body armor and bad attitudes? Jesus, I’m beginning to understand what it must have been like to be in Germany circa 1935.
From my cold dead fingers.

CWO5USMC

I haven’t devoted my entire adult life to protecting this nation only to have the right/ability to protect my own home and family with legally bought weapons taken away from me.

Not gonna happen. I’ll put a bigger fence around the place and tell the whole world to go f@ck themselves…..I’ve got more ammo on hand than my unit armory….

….just saying.

Scubasteve

So, to be the Devil’s Advocate here, let’s say this goes through without any major issues. Yeah, I’m really pushing it with that one, but anyway, let’s say Joe gets his wish and can now service the truck stop gloryhole in a gun-free America:

What steps do they take when someone with a gun, who obviously obtained it illegally, goes and, I dunno, maybe shoots up a movie theater, or goes to a school and shoots a bunch of kids? After these pending ‘executive orders’ are passed, of course. What will they do then? Who do they come after and who do the laws restrict then?

Scubasteve

My answer, since I can’t rightfully pose a question without having an answer, is Martial Law. That’s what the next answer will be, IMO. For the safety of the people, the military will be ‘deployed’ on American soil to maintain law and order.

Segue to: As time passes, the lines blur. Informants will be commended and receive a higher status, being allowed to cut in line for two cans of gu’mint cheese and shelf stable bread, while the common folk stand in line to receive their one can and loaf, if available. Information will come flowing in, and people will sell out their own mothers for something as simple as knowing they have a guaranteed next meal. To reduce the deficit and unemployment, factories will produce one style of clothing, paid for by the people with taxes taken directly from their paycheck. Replacement clothing will be more expensive, however. Everyone will have a job in the factory. Even if the job is taking the orders from the customers to the Engineers, so the customers don’t have to deal directly with them.

Geez, I need to write a book. I’ll call it “Remembering 1984” or something like that. It’ll be about an old man with pneumonia, fondly remembering his youth, as his children bring him to the recycling center for the elderly.

Tangent done.

Old Trooper

@61: I’m not afraid. I’m sad. Sad that we have come to this. Sad that we have allowed ourselves to get to this point. Sad that there are enough people willing to become subjects (thank you public school system).

However, I am also, determined. Determined to see this national nightmare end. I don’t care what any of the 3 letter agengies have planned, they don’t have the one thing that matters; will. Are they willing to go against their country? Are they willing to possibly lose their life to satisfy tyrants? Are they willing to go against their brothers and sisters?

LIRight

When push comes to shove and those in this country that have sworn to “uphold the Constitution,” namely; active duty military, reservists and the various law enforcement agencies (federal, state and local)throughout this country – – – what will they do when “it” hits the fan? Obey direct orders or be locked up or fired for disregarding same?

It’ll be a difficult decision for many but I think most will do their duty as they see it, like it or not! They will follow the orders of their superiors, which ultimately come from POTUS.

Folks, I have a sick feeling in my stomach….as #61 RM3(SS) said above: “Be afraid folks. I currently work at a 3 letter agency and contingency plans are being discussed. This is real.”

NHSparky

76…if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.

Where have I heard that before? Yes, I do recall having read those words somewhere…

USMCE8Ret

Some would say that patriotism is the passionate love of country that may divide us. While I still believe this is the greatest country in the world, it is also still one of the youngest. We make mistakes, and will continue to do so. I don’t believe there is one silver bullet to help us get through whatever crisis we are experiencing right now, whether it be the economy, failed foreign policy, disillusionment of the government and its leaders, but I’m damned willing to find those solutions and see this through. There were men who signed their signatures to two documents over 230 years ago who felt as strongly as we do, and I think if they were alive today, they’d be proud of all of you. We owe them to keep the spirit of their intentions alive, so this country will continue to flourish, and not perish from the earth.

LIRight

@USMCE8Ret

Well said, MARINE!

Tango9

Can’t live forever. Let them bring it. Scared, I am not.

fm2176

I deployed in a few months and had my guns in storage. Sadly, before I got home next year someone broke into my storage area and made off with them, gun safe and all. Left my tools and porn, though… 🙂

Oddly, the lock I will put on it in a few weeks showed no evidence of tampering.

As for an outright ban or confiscation, via executive order or otherwise, I can see the feds having the same experience we had when going door to door disarming Husaybah years ago. First day the company seized hundreds of weapons (mostly Kalashnikovs and Soviet-bloc pistols, with a generous sprinkling of RPGs and ordnance). Second day we got maybe 100 total. By the end of the week we were coming back in off patrol lucky to have gotten 10 or 15 antiques. Despite our “generous” offers of $20 for info and our freedom to enter every residence the locals got word around quick: if you don’t want the Americans to take it, hide it well!