Recapping what we know about James Holmes

| July 20, 2012

OK, we didn’t know much when we woke up this morning and discovered that James Holmes had shot more than 60 people at a movie showing in Aurora, CO just after midnight. But that didn’t stop ABC from tying the shooter to the TeaParty. Of course, they had to retract that claim because they found a guy whose name was the same as the shooters. A quick check of White Pages says they list 30 James Holmes in Colorado, so what are the odds? Apparently, they just “Googled” James Holmes+Tea Party to fit their perception.

The Army, certain that the media would speculate whether Holmes was a veteran or not, scanned their databases and determined that he is not one of theirs, says Spencer Ackermann;

The U.S. Army, concerned over speculation that the shooter might have been a veteran — and eager to stifle the meme of the psychotic veteran before it spread — felt compelled to email that a database check of the suspect resulted in “no evidence suggest[ing] this individual served in the Army.” Spokespeople for Buckley Air Force Base, near to Aurora, said servicemembers were among the wounded.

So the Left goes off and blames Rush Limbaugh for the shooter, because ya know everyone who listens to his show is just one command away from shooting up a theater, anyway. Another blogger claims that Holmes is a member of the Black Bloc.

None of the speculation changes the fact that more than 60 people have been shot, some of them are members of the military, and blaming any group or media source detracts from the fact that his guy is a nutjob, and he has no reasonable excuse for what he did and that he is solely responsible for what he did. And anyone taking advantage of this for their own personal or political gains are despicable.

ADDED: As an afterthought I checked AKO to see if the Army had any James Holmes and there are 34, one in Colorado, so I guess we’re lucky that the media doesn’t have access to AKO or we’d be hearing about the shooter being a veteran.

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swamper

Throughout today, something has been bugging me. And, I think I’ve pinpointed it. It’s pretty much encapsulated in the quote below. We have freedom of speech, and we teach the hell out of it in schools. And, we have the right to bear arms, but we try to stifle that with regulations and control. We are seriously missing the American spirit.

“There should be legislation to provide a complete plan for organizing the great body of volunteers behind the Regular Army and National Guard when war has come. Congressional assistance should be given those who are endeavoring to promote rifle practice so that our men, in the services or out of them, may know how to use the rifle. While teams representing the United States won the rifle and revolver championships of the world against all comers in England this year, it is unfortunately true that the great body of our citizens shoot less and less as time goes on. To meet this we should encourage rifle practice among schoolboys, and indeed among all classes, as well as in the military services, by every means in our power. Thus, and not otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving the peace of the world. Fit to hold our own against the strong nations of the earth, our voice for peace will carry to the ends of the earth. Unprepared, and therefore unfit, we must sit dumb and helpless to defend ourselves, protect others, or preserve peace. The first step——in the direction of preparation to avert war if possible, and to be fit for war if it should come——is to teach our men to shoot.” –Theodore Roosevelt

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=1319

malclave

I guess we’re lucky that the media doesn’t have access to AKO or we’d be hearing about the shooter being a veteran.

Was watching the morning news today and it showed that Holmes has ties to San Diego. There was a media circus outside his family’s house, so they called the police for help. One of the questions the media asked the police rep was if Holmes ahd any ties to the military… so at least the media can be counted on to TRY to pin it on the military.

I guess somehow he got PTSD from being deployed to the mideast while he was at U.C. Riverside.

NHSparky

I lived in Lakewood for a while. We used to joke about calling it “Saudi Aurora” back then, don’t know if they still do.

Green Thumb

I hope this asshole gets the chair.

He deserves it.

Ex-PH2

I just want to know why he did this.

Devtun

Brian “blame Tea Party” Ross & George Suckadickapolous at the All Bullcrap Corporation are trying to incite a riot. Inferring the Tea Party might be involved is first thing they can think of? Don’t throw stones at glass houses MSM. From what I gather the Black Panthers and Weather Underground weren’t exactly what could be called right wing zealots/extremists

Tman

Simple, Ex-PH2.

As mentioned before, the likes of this Colorado shooter seek attention and notoriety. Just like the shooter in Norway, or the Virginia Tech shooter. Sure, they may all have underlying ‘issues,’ but whatever it is, they feel insignificant in this universe of theirs. Their narcissism demands that the world know who they are, and the only way they know how in this internet world of ours is to do something so heinous, ‘random,’ and frightening, that their name will forever be in the history books.

That’s it. I know we all seek something more concrete and exact in these cases, but that is what makes it so much more frightening. These insecure losers who crave their 15 minutes of fame are trying to outdo each other. Can’t blame it on child abuse, PTSD, or anything else, because there are many who have suffered as such who don’t do these types of things. And I am afraid we haven’t seen the last of this kind of madness, either in the U.S. or the world.

B Woodman

Just going to throw this out there & see if it sticks ala Ross, ABC et al. . . . ..
I wonder if Mr Shooter was “jihad-ized”?
I leave the rest to your fertile imaginations. . . ..

Ex-PH2

One of the people who died was from Crystal Lake, IL. His family was notified last night by the Navy. John Larimer, PO3, with a year and a half in service.

Here’s a link to the newspaper report:

http://www.nwherald.com/2012/07/21/family-confirms-crystal-lake-man-among-dead-in-colo-shooting/a4m7x6n/?page=2

Melony

@56 – why he did it??? He was a sick pup. We will probably never find out the true reason he did it.

Tony Ryals

‘And anyone taking advantage of this for their own personal or political gains are despicable.’…..Gosh why didn’t you say that to Bush and Cheney and their Zionista billionaire leaders when they rushed to invade Iraq and Afghanistan right,far right,after 9,11,01 ? And if you could only read SEC filings you’d know by now that it was Menachem Atzmon and his merry Shin BET ‘men’ of ICTS International who were not only ‘guarding’ Logan Airport Boston where according to your own official story,the planes flights 175 and 11 originated from,but simultaneously running astock fraud against Americans ? Maybe with the low collective IQ of ‘our military’ and ‘our government’ ,whether it be low ethical or moral or just plain dumb, we are desitined to destroy ourselves. In regard to your post and that of others on the internet about another James Holmes who is a member of the Navy War College,I have seen no info to substantiate or negate a possible family connection to him but the father of the alledged shooter,Robert Holmes of San Diego,(where many military industrial types reside),seems to have applied his statisical analysis training at UC Berkeley to military related analysis coincidentally. This blog quote with link from Jan Tucker,an apparent private investigator, adds the following about James Holmes’ father Robert and focus of statistical analysis that appears of a military nature just like the Navy War College’s James Holmes coincidentally .As her blog mentions,the alledged shooters father was apparently born in Trindad.I wonder what his mommy and daddy were doing there and if they were American citizens?: http://janbtucker.com/blog/2012/07/23/james-eagan-holmes-the-statistical-angle/ ….Robert Milton Holmes Jr, James Eagan Holmes father, is an eminent statistician who got his Ph.D. from UC Berkeley after being mentored there by equally eminent Romanian born statistician Dr. Peter John Bickel. He is a long time member of the American Statistics Association (ASA). The elder Holmes writings include: Contributions to the theory of parametric estimation in randomly censored data by Robert M Holmes (Book) — this was his 1981 Doctoral Dissertation at Cal Berkeley QR code for A Statistical Analysis of the First Ten Years of… Read more »

Not to be confused with the other Brian

@62 I read that dumb ass link. Care to tell us how the hell that corresponds to shooting up a movie theater? Or how knowing statistics gives a person an idea of how to effectively use a firearm to kill? Or better yet, why just because someone has studied statistics they are going to be a mass murderer? In conclusion you’re a conspiracy nut case that doesn’t use any sort of logic to come up with your looney bin ideas.

Tony Ryals

Well look at this quote as one example of what you allow to be posted aparently with your approval and endorsement with no criticism whatsoever,B Woodman Says: July 21st, 2012 at 9:31 am ‘Just going to throw this out there & see if it sticks ala Ross, ABC et al. . . . .. I wonder if Mr Shooter was “jihad-ized”?’ Now why would anyone post that here and have it go unquestioned and uncriticized and yet when I post the strange coincidence that Holmes father is not just any prestigious statistician but one who specializes in military statistics,e.g. – deaths of marines as the title,’An Empirical Bayes Approach to Forecasting Marine Corps Enlisted Personnel Loss Rates’clearly states – you get all neurotic about it.I’d sure hate to be a poor Afghan peasant or innocent Iraqi being judged and immediately condemed and then probably shot,etc. by a gun toting moron like you.You or some anonymous jerk posting as Woodman asks if James Holmes was “jihad-ized”? Well perhaps he was ‘Yahwe-dized’ just like his father Robert or at least Robert Holmes mentor the Transylvanian or Romanian or Israelian Isra-hellian,Dr. Peter John(Frankenstein) Bickel who has MANY friends NOT in Islamic countries but in Israel where the mentally ill white people there all claim,erroneously,to be ‘Semites’ which is statistically impossible to begin with because all that white skin can only be the result of their earlier ancestors and babies living in northern climates and dieing of Vitamin D deficiency before reproductive age and leaving only lighter skinned babies,who can make Vitamin D missing in their agrarian diet more efficiently with white skin,to survive and reproduce more lighter skinned babies.For white people to erroneously claim that they or their ancestors are from the Middle East where Semitic languages originated is ‘statistically’ and historically incorrect and I’d suggest that Robert Holmes and his mentor Count Dracula or Dr. Peter John Bickel do a little staistical analysis of that one and they’d soon find their Israeli ‘friends’ are pulling their middle legs and are white folks of northern agrarian origens and not ‘Semites’at all !However they… Read more »

NHSparky

Zionista billionaire leaders

Pretty much stopped reading at that point. There’s the door, don’t let it hit ya in the ass on the way out.

Hondo

¿Así, el Sr. Ryals – cómo es el clima en Centroamérica hoy?

Jan B. Tucker

Regarding #62 from Tony Ryals, no offense taken but Jan B. Tucker is not appropriately referred to as “her” because I’m a guy, in spite of the fact that I am what a feminist looks like (I’m also co-President of a National Organization for Women Chapter).

To clear up any confusion about whether I am or am not a private investigator, my California license is No. 10143 issued by the Bureau of Security & Investigative Services, I served more than twice as long as anybody else in the history of the profession as Chair of the Board of the world’s largest organization for private detectives, the California Association of Licensed Investigators.

malclave

@64

Well look at this quote as one example of what you allow to be posted aparently with your approval and endorsement with no criticism whatsoever

So what? The comment you cited explicitly referred to ABC trying to link the shooting to the TEA Party; it wasn’t actually suggesting the shooting was jihad-related.

Ex-PH2

News item: Colorado gun sales are spiking following the Aurora, CO shooting.

Well, what about in other states?