Stolen Valor before the Supremes on Wednesday morning
Crossposted from Burn Pit.
Side Note: Anyone in the DC area that wants to go with VT Woody and me, we will be at the SC by 5 am to ensure we get the public seats. If all else fails, I have a press pass, but press seats at the SC are behind a makeshift wall, so you can’t see anything. I expect the VFW and TAL folks will be there, but would love to have some TAH readers if anyone feels up to getting up at the asscrack of dawn.
First, apologies for the lack of posts last week, I was at a seminar on leadership of non-profits for my non-TAL related stuff I do with veterans issues. (I am on the Board of Trustees for Soldiers’ Angels.) To start the week off right, I woke up extra early and drove to work to get a post up, only to realize when I got there that today is a Holiday. Either way, going to get this post up now, as tomorrow I am on travel to the Supreme Court to hear the arguments.
Last week the Supreme Court Insider at the National Law Journal, Tom Mauro laid out the arguments to be heard in this case:
In briefs before the Supreme Court in United States v. Alvarez, the named party Xavier Alvarez is variously described as a “phony,” a “scoundrel” and a “serial prevaricator.” And those descriptions are from the briefs on his side. The Alvarez case, set for argument on Feb. 22, has produced a remarkable aray of 18 briefs on both sides of the issue: whether the Stolen Valor Act, which makes it a crime to falsely claim having won a military honor, violates the First Amendment.
Alvarez, a small-town politician in Pomona, Calif., was prosecuted under the law after claiming in a public speech that he was a retired Marine who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in 1987. In fact, he had never served in the military or won the medal.
Alvarez’s challenge to the law follows in a recent line of classic First Amendment cases in which the Court has ruled that controversial expressions ranging from dog-crush videos to virulent protests at military funerals to violent videogames are nonetheless protected by the First Amendment. Whether the Court will give similar protection to lying about military medals is not certain. “The case presents fundamental questions about how the Constitution applies to intentionally false statements,” wrote Jenner & Block partner Paul Smith, who won the violent videogame case, in the latest Communications Lawyer newsletter.
The Court has said from time to time that false statements deserve little or no First Amendment protection, but those supporting Alvarez say the Court has not condoned criminalizing falsity when it causes no injury. In addition to criticizing Alvarez for his false statements, briefs by First Amendment advocates have also piled on in criticizing the Obama Administration’s vigorous defense of the law.
The government’s brief argues that content-based restrictions on false speech are permitted under the First Amendment so long as enough “breathing space” remains for fully protected speech. Military advocates say the law is needed to protect the value and integrity of the military awards program, which dates back to the days of George Washington – on whose birthday the case will be argued.
The article then goes on to address some of the Amicus Brief, but I have covered the bulk of them before here. As I said there,
The court could go a number of ways:
1) They could decide that easily verifiable lies dealing with an interest like military medals are not to be afforded constitutional protection.
2) They could decide that some lies are covered, but in this case the Gov’t has a compelling interest in preserving military medals, under the Constitutional authority to raise armies and to set their rules.
3) They could decide that the law should have an imputed fraud element. (i.e. You can lie about being an MOH recipient in a bar or something, but if you try to acquire something tangible or intangible than that would be violative.)
4) Lastly, they could go the way folks seem to think they will and say that the Stolen Valor Amendment has an overbreadth problem, and suggest that Congress rewrite the statute with the fraud element actually in place. Technically they wouldn’t actually suggest that, but it would be clear. If this last happens, luckily there is already a bill in the works.
There are however two briefs cited by the National Law Journal that I wanted to address.
Amicus brief of American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression and others…
“The ‘breathing room’ test the government derives from a distorted reading of [Times v.] Sullivan and other cases is disturbingly vague and sweeping in the authority it would accord Congress, state legislatures and municipalities to regulate false factual statements based on an asserted strong government interest. The government’s defense of the Stolen Valor Act would, if accepted, open the door to government enforcement of the ‘truth,’ a concept smacking of authoritarianism … This Court should not sustain Alvarez’s conviction unless it also would be prepared to sustain the conviction of a veteran who falsely told a grandchild of having won the Navy Expert Rifleman Medal with a motive nor more malicious than to interest the child in riflery. The First Amendment allows no such government intrusion on everyday discourse.”
Of course, the grandfather wouldn’t actually have to be a veteran, in fact, why not just claim to be a Medal of Honor recipient and really get the interest flowing? The thing about being the “Truth police” is (I believe) the more ridiculous of the arguments. As I have said, this isn’t about an opinion or some material fact that the government has no interest in. The most obvious thing that keeps the Government from outlawing lies on Facebook about your marital status etc is that the people should vote out anyone that would go that far in office. This is about a verifiable statement of fact. One either has the medals, or does not. And the Government should be interested in this, since it directly impacts something under their purview, the awarding of medals to the military. The rules for governing the military, and the awarding of medals is right there in the Constitution.
The Congress shall have Power:
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress….
Anyway, the other Amicus that is new to us here is this one:
Amicus brief for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and 23 news media organizations
“The purposes of the Stolen Valor Act are better served by reliance on the marketplace of ideas than by criminalizing pure speech. As Alvarez and others learned to their peril, veterans groups, medal winners, and the press work tirelessly to expose false claims of heroism … Upholding the Stolen Valor Act under the government’s ‘breathing space’ theory would strike at the heart of press freedom by heralding a return to the early First Amendment jurisprudence of this Court’s post-World War I Espionage Act cases. Newspaper publishers and others were convicted, and the convictions upheld … for publishing ‘false reports’ that might have a tendency to impede the war effort.”
I’m willing to bet no one has been more busy getting the word out than those of us who are engaged in this sort of stuff. But the reality is that there will always be guys like Rick Strandlof who make this untenable. Rick first conned the city of Reno, Nevada, then he moved to Denver and changed his name to Rick Duncan, where he was a USMC vet with purple hearts etc. When we caught him there, he simply changed his name again to Rick Gold and became an attorney. Every time someone busts him out, he just re-invents himself. And outside those of you reading this, what percent of people out there would even know how to go about verifying the claims? And since it takes months to get the paperwork back, what possibility is there that whatever ancillary scam this guy is running will get caught?
False reports on individuals are already subject to defamation law, etc. This isn’t some slippery slope down a route where the Government can prosecute willy-nilly. What this is is an attempt to preserve to those who actually earned the medals the rightful honor they have returned.
Tomorrow I will be looking at an article on the subject that appeared in the Washington Post this weekend by Professor Jonathan Turley, who is easily my least favorite “legal mind.” Wednesday I will have some info on the actual arguments that came up at the hearing, and a look at some of the questions the Justices posed to the parties.
Category: Politics
One other way to look at this – if there is a “Truth Police” established to deal with this sort of thing (lying being made illegal), liars may get some jail time out of the equasion, most notably the friggin’ politicians.
Nothing would please me more than to lock up every damned one of them.
I would think that government has an interest in who claims to have been awarded medals that the government awards, but that’s just me.
And, there’s no way that the SVA “strikes at the heart of press freedom”.
Broadly, this also goes to the heart of protecting the honorable service, and thus reputation, of every veteran. I would have no problems with locking up anyone who falsely claimed to be a veteran. I would not be surprised to find that 90% of those folks we see panhandling, living on the streets, claiming to be a veteran have never served. It’s just so damned easy to roll into a surplus store, grab a boonie hat, a blouse and some trinkets/patches and invent a new persona as a “homeless vet”. I personally know two who used to pull this scam until they were outed and had to leave the area. These guys end up diverting funds to help them when those same funds could be used to help actual veterans in need, or to reduce our tax bills. My simple solution, to go hand-in-hand with the Stolen Valor Act, is a National Veteran’s ID card, given to every veteran upon discharge. It could be like the VA Patient card, and have the Veteran’s DD-214 data on a swipe strip on the back, with an national data-base number to call, along with an image of the veteran on the front, and his branch of service and date of service on the front. Having such a card would, to my mind, solve an awful lot of problems right off the top. Regardless, I am hoping for a positive outcome that reinforces the SVA, but I’m not counting on it. Seems to me we are all Tommy now, as the new variants attest: ——————————————– O then we’re just like ‘eroes from the army’s glorious past. Yes, it’s “God go with you, Tommy,” when the trip might be your last. They pays us skivvy wages, never mind we’re sitting ducks, When clerks what’s pushing pens at ‘ome don’t know their flippin’ luck. “Ah, yes” sez they “but think of all the travel to be ‘ad.” Pull the other one. Does Cooks do ‘olidays in Baghdad? It’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, know your place,” But it’s “Tommy, take the front seat,” when… Read more »
TSO, I am untreated, I will send you an email shortly with my cell number. I live within metrorail distance of DC and my VFW Post has takes me with reporting on this. Please get in touch with me ASAP.
LMAO, the Press works tirelessly toseek the TRUTH on theVet stories?
Yeah Joe, I caught that too. There are a few that do so, but we led the press to Ballduster’s doorstep and they weren’t even sure it was him, even though he was wearing a CIA hat with a star on it.
Considering Obama has set up Truth Police, that Rubicon has been crossed already.
More than likely the SCOTUS will issue a ruling that raises more questions than not. They’re good about ambiguity.
Glad that some of “us” will be there. Many more will be there with you in spirit.
Hope you have a better seat at this argument than you did last time.
Obviously the arguments haven’t been heard yet, but I can see where the liberal arm of the court will take issue is with someone claiming veteran status simply to have “bragging rights” and not to obtain anything of value or service based on a false claim of service.
Had the SVA originally been written with that in mind (financial fraud by deception, etc.,) rather than simply lying about something, then I don’t believe we’d be here. If a kid comes up to me in a bar and claims he was a nuke but didn’t have to go to school because he took a lot of Physics and Math, I’d laugh my balls off at him and send him on his way.
Had he falsified his DD-214 and claimed that in order to get a job at wherever, then that can (and should) be prosecuted. Mister Alvarez definitely falls in the second category because he claimed awards never earned to obtain a job (hence compensation for service.)
Sealy McChippendale DEFINITELY falls under Category 2, but Ballduster? Meh–he likes (liked) playing dress-up in front of idiots who didn’t know the difference, no crime except that of near infinite stupidity, unless he got something out of it.
Just my .02.
That idiot Fox News dick-muncher and Adam Kokesh cheerleader, “Judge” Napolitano, says the case will heard today. Just one more thing he’s wrong about, I hope.
Unsurprisingly, Napolitano defends Alvarez by saying he was only wearing a costume as a joke. I hate that fucker. Seriously.
Seriously, Jonn? “COSTUME”??? What a senile old fart. No wonder he isn’t a judge anymore.
@3 You’re not an intelligent person
Personally, I don’t see how the SCOTUS can invalidate the Stolen Valor Act without also invalidating those parts of the USC that prohibit wearing of unearned military medals (18 USC 704a) – which predate the Stolen Valor Act by nearly 60 years. Wearing a medal is nothing more than a nonverbal claim to have been awarded same; the First Amendment protections for free speech cover both verbal and nonverbal speech.
Not sure if there’s a SCOTUS precedent regarding unauthorized wear. If so, I think that may well give us a good pattern for the SCOTUS’s decision on the SVA.
Not sure how there is any slippery slope here…. after all, it has been illegal to impersonate a police officer, for instance, without regard to whether the douche is doing it for immediate gain or not – it’s just illegal. No “truth police” there.
What is a slippery slope is making any form of lying illegal, I guess – it sets a terrible precedent. First you make it illegal to claim to be a cop when you’re not, then to claim awards or rank you didn’t have , then – oh no, the horror of it!!!! someone may want to make lying by a public offical illegal!!! Oh, the humanity…. some politicians may have to tell the truth!! Or work!!!
“The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional to how they perceive veterans of early wars were treated and appreciated by our nation.”
? George Washington