VFP tries to arrest Rumsfeld
Daniel sends us a link to a report that the Geezers for Sitting on Our Hands (Veterans For Peace) tried to conduct a citizens’ arrest of Donald Rumsfeld in Boston last night;
“I went down in front and looked Donald Rumsfeld in the eye and said, ‘I’m making a citizen’s arrest,’” protester Nate Goldschlag told WCVB-TV.
“He lied us into Iraq. He lied about weapons of mass destruction. He lied about Saddam Hussein being involved in 9/11.”
Three of the protesters removed from the event were with Veterans for Peace and a fourth was a member of Code Pink. One protester was arrested outside the event for allegedly using a bullhorn to assault a police officer.
Goldschlag forgot to mention that Rumsfeld was on the grassy knoll in Dallas and staged the moon landing in Arizona.
Of course, the people who wanted to hear what Rumsfeld had to say booed the four tiny-penised protesters.
I only wish that they’d had the gumption to try that shit at the Milblog Conference when Rumsfeld spoke to us, but that was early on a Saturday morning, you know the hippies couldn’t drag themselves out for a principled stand at 8am.
Here’s the protester’s side of the discussion below the jump;
Keep in mind that most of the VFP members who we’ve profiled have never served in combat. They call themselves “Vietnam veterans” but they never set foot outside of this country – they may be Vietnam Era veterans, but few of them went to Vietnam. SO when they say they “fought for this country” like the guy in the video, you can rightfully doubt that.
Category: Antiwar crowd, Code Pink, I hate hippies
Those folks sure have a lot of leisure time and available cash on their hands. The irony being Rummie probably pays enough in taxes to give those geezers that time and money.
Wow…..
There’s not much one can even say about these guys except…wow.
I still love how these groups of individuals are helping the cause by sending money to the terrorist organizations.
CI: agreed
“SO when they say they “fought for this country” like the guy in the video, you can rightfully doubt that.”
Soooooo what about the millions who actually DID fight for this country that don’t act like that? Does their voice count more than VFPs?
The whole concept of a Citizen’s Arrest still has me slightly puzzled… I mean, once you arrest a suspect, you have to take them to central booking (is there a civilian version?), then they await a preliminary hearing (definitely the only legal version is the one in place with the Local and State guys, and the Feds…) and then there is the Jury Trial? How do these retards plan to accomplish all of this without the rule of law in their favor?
Why don’t they do something useful, like protesting Sunrise Assisted Living for cutting their prune juice ration and halving their Geritol dosage?
God I hate hippies, but I think Rumsfeld is also an asshole. When he said we go to war with what we have (Iraq) he didn’t think “wow, maybe we should have spun up and made more armored humvees first…etc”
I say throw the hippies and Rumsfeld in a room and lock the door…
Again with the denigration of geezers. AGEISTS! Some of my best friends are geezers.
Shit-head is a perfectly acceptable term, however. Until the ACLU decides otherwise that is.
Sorry Zero!!!!!!!! Not all Geezers are bad! I meant more the Hippie Geezers, not the Old Salty Shellbacked ones, I promise!!!!
Lucky #10: Nope, never crossed the Equator. Was headed that way once, but shit happens.
“I fought for this country.” Perhaps he was on the US Olympic boxing team. Perhaps by fought he means a war of words. Perhaps by “this country” he was referring to one other than the USA. I raise these points because another thread here focuses, a la Clinton, on the what-the-meaning-of-is-is perspective. And it is sheer, unadulterated nonsense–but a very easy game to play.
Well then I stand corrected, Old Salty Wog Geezers are exempted!
You know, they say that there was no WMD because all we found was an empty warehouse with a single Mustard Gas canister in it… Do they not know that canisters can be moved?
I am attending law school and my understanding is that “citizen’s arrest” is really a very limited situation. I got this off of wikipedia, which, while not always reliable, nonetheless encapsulates the applicable law: “Each state, with the exception of North Carolina, permits citizen arrests if the commission of a felony is witnessed by the arresting citizen, or when a citizen is asked to assist in the apprehension of a suspect by police. The application of state laws varies widely with respect to misdemeanors, breaches of the peace, and felonies not witnessed by the arresting party. For example, Arizona law allows a citizen’s arrest if the arrestor has personally witnessed the offense occurring.”
So all this talk of making citizen’s arrests seems to apply to situations where a citizen witnesses a felony or is asked by police, neither of which appears to be the case here.
So to make a long story short, as usual they are full of it and themselves.
Anyone attempting to effect a citizen’s areest had better darn well know when it is permitted, what to say, what to do (a touching following the declaration), whether force may be used if resistance is offered and, if permitted, the degree of force, the rights of the arrestee, the rendering of medical care, if necessqary and the attendant liability regarding that, all of the post-arrest procedures, and more. A citizen’s arrest is often a payday-in-waiting for the arrestee.
I hope the next time these ancient fleebag hippies try it, someone challenges them on Miranda at the scene then laughs in their face!
Why do they think that they have the power to detain another citizen? And the “lies” told. . . wasn’t Brittan saying the same thing? JUST SAYING.
and a “citizens arrest” is a good way to get your lights punched out
These people are heroes.. Lilyea ranks meeting that war criminal Rumsfeld as one of the greatest moments of his life I don’t know who is worse Lilyea or Rumsfeld
OG # 20: Blow it out yer ass.
Doc, in #18, yeah, Britain said the same thing, as did France, Germany, Italy, Russia, Ted Kennedy, Jawn F’ing Kerry, Algore and many others.
OK, I just wasted 31 seconds of my life, that I’ll never get back, on this video of people who really need to get some kind of life.
“Heroes”? Only if you think stinky, ill-informed hippies are “heroes”. More likely, you didn’t pay attention in 9th grade English last year, OG.
#20 LOL obama girl…..you are sooooooooooooo 2008.
buh bye
Wow, OG… just wow…
I bet you believe in man-made global warming and that cats are minions of satan and should be burned with the witches.
OG, now I KNOW that whatever comes out of your mouth is pure bullshit.
BTW–did Obama consult with Congress over Libya as he was required to do under the War Powers Act? No? WAR CRIMINAL!!!!
@24
Your point about AGW is well taken, but are you really saying that you think cats are NOT minions of Satan?
Veterans for Peace? Nate Goldschlag admits he never served in the Military, so does he get into VFP, and he ran for its board of directors in 2008. Talk about Lying, sheesh.
Well I can’t say Rumsfeld was a spectacular Secretary of Defense.
Having said that however, do these smelly hippies serve any other purpose save being tools of Communist subversion?
Why aren’t these hippies down in NYC, with the other smelly hippies, protesting? You know the ones opposed to everything corporate? The report I saw tonight had an interview with one of the hippies, typing away on her laptop, a Mac. The reporterette asked her if she didn’t think she was just a wee bit hypocritical, after all, she’d supported corporate America by buying her Mac. You could see the incomprehension in her face, then she tried to mumble her way out of it, by saying she had to have a laptop to work.
You know OG, you must be huffing paint. Your boyfriend on an ODA actually put up with that idiocy?
Why are the “Heroes” lying idiots, and the “lying idiots” are really the heroes. Lest you forget HE STAYED AT HIS POST on 9/11. He could have easily gone underground, run for the high hills.
Even then EVERYTHING he did was legal, they had safe harbor statement, and actual ya know Laws enacted by the duly elected congress, which means that it was ENTIRELY legal. You may not like the outcome, but unless you can provide actual evidence of willful breaking of the law, and unless you can get a federal prosicuter to take up said case, and a Judge to see it (ALL highly unlikely) then you have no legal recourse. ZILCH, NONE, Nicht etc. And you know most states do not recognize a citizen’s ability to detain another. Had they ACTUALLY tried to do so they’d be looking at assault battery and unlawful detention. Then they would have gotten a REAL arrest.
these fake vets need to get s life I carry s copy of my DD 214 in my wallet I have 3 tours in Iraq these vets are Vietnam era none of them serving boots on ground all stateside remfs I would love to show them new hand to hand combat unarmed and break some of their old bones. Do not disrespect our military you welfare foodstamp losers. Come by Ft Bragg and protest Rumfield. you old fake non vets will need body cast. Once again have a copy of a DD214 on you before you say your a vet. Stolen Valor Act will lock your fake poser Ass up and I will fight any of you fake bastards
Ps you try to touch Rumsfield you old bastard I will protect my Chain Of Command and arrest your old ass after I put your face in the cement and keep you in the prone position you fake poser. Next y tiyme Rumsfeld talks and you idiot vet want to be interupt his speech expect to use your medicade we are done with fake veterans we have lawyers to bail us out for Simple Assault
Ok, I’m pretty new here. But, it took me two posts to realize that if stupidity were illegal, obamagirl would get a life sentence. I’m not a mean guy but I do call them as I see them.
WOW, what intelligent comments on this blog site. A friend just sent this to me. It is quite the read. It seems all you folks can do is try and outdo the preceding one with stupid comments directed towards vets who have dutifully served our country: smelly hippies, fake vets, old geezers, shithead, lying idots. throwing insults to men and women who served this country. Man you are all hurting my feelings. All you can comment about is how you would like to mess us up – tough guys, from the neck down. There is obviously very little going on from the neck up. I am the vet in the blue shirt and a proud member of Veterans For Peace here in Boston. I served in Vietnam for the year of 1969, held a top secret clearance, graduated from the United States Army Intelligence School at Fort Holabird, MD. I was at MACV Headquarters in Saigon. I did bomb damage assessment of B52 strikes. Anyone want to see my DD214? Or some of my decorations? I am a lifetime member of both VFW and VVA. I served my country, put my life on the line so I think I have the right to comment when this country is lead off to war based on a bunch of lies. I am in the VA (volunteering) on a regular basis and I see these young men and women coming back, not just with bodily injuries but PTSD and TMS and will live the rest of their lives battling demons of war. I work with Iraqi refugees (again volunteering), who are here because they supported this government, they have lost love ones, their culture, their country. One million of their country men women and children are dead, three million are refugees – for what? Donald Rumsfeld should be tried as a war criminal along with Bush, Cheney and Rice and a host of others. This gang lead us into a war we did not have to be in. Those of us who have been to war know we do not send our young… Read more »
You are so right. My service in Iraq doesn’t mean anything and my opinions don’t count. Let me move my dumb hillbilly add out of the way because I vote republican and spend my time working hard to pay bills and not protesting. Go protest Obama for spending money in Libya. Oh…wait…..he’s a Democrat that was gonna atop the war,fix the economy, open the borders,fix the healthcare system and entire my kitty only poops golden turds. You rail about inflammatory comments and then say that you realize what you said is inflammatory to most here. Hypocrite? Secondly…when someone does or says something extremely assinine and stupid like trying a citizens arrest a la Homer Pyle in Mayberry…..well…they deserve to be called stupid. Go pedal your soft soap limp wristed democrat verbally pornographic rhetoric to some liberal media spoon fed idiot who wants to listen to it. By the way in my personal…..and just my personal opinion, I think you and all like you can probably go fornication yourself with an iron stick, eat a bowl of erect phalluses and wash it all down with a big glass of bleach. Guess what, I have fought for your freedom of speech and you can legally continue to spout your hateful, stupid rhetoric. But, in your case I wouldn’t be angry at you if you decided to just shine the democrat hippie knob with your mouth instead of opening it. Ok, now I will sit back and read your indignant hippie reply that a scummy veteran who isn’t a liberal peace Nazi faggot dared to speak his mind like the constitution says he can. So…..go ahead hippie. I am waiting……BTW, I expect a lawsuit threat from you. Please don’t disappoint me. Liberals and convicts ate the same. They like to dish it but sure cant take it, Smedly
Hay Thejester,
I respect your service, I too fought for your freedom of speech. If Rummy had not lied, a lot of your buddies would probably be alive today. You are focusing your hostility in the wrong direction.
You just proved my point (paragraph 1). You are all over the place, name calling, ranting with 2nd grade potty talk (real cool), what a clever guy, no focus, falsely accusing, falsely assuming. Little mind, little thoughts and no coherent argument. Your only argument about being in Iraq is to insult and personally attack? You are like the bully in the school yard, “if you don’t agree with me I am going to beat you up”. Because you were in Iraq does not make the policies that put you there the right policies for this country. They were not and are not. Theres some great intellect between those ears. Maybe someday, when the meds kick in, and you calm down a little you may have an epiphany.
The VA has some really good shrinks, I know several of them. I would be glad to give you a referral. Just sending them your rant should prove a thing or two and probably get you at least 20%.
I knew this was a right wing, militaristic blog but you guys are way off the deep end. I know a lot of vets at the VFW (not exactly a left wing organization) and guess what, the vast majority agree that Iraq was a big mistake and we were wrong to invade. Even those who think it was the right thing to do can engage in a civil discussion. On this blog if someone disagrees your only response is to insult and attack. I am out of here. You guys can have fun talking amongst yourselves.
Geez, u finally did something smart and got outta here. To quote Einstein….the smartest thing to ever come out of your mouth was a pecker.
2ndly, I’m fully sane and not on MEds. 3 rdly u keep my hero buddies names out of your coksmokin mouth. If u were here in person I would have just rich slapped u. Nut thanks for doing what liberals do…insult my intellect for not agreeing with you…..jackass. soldiers like me using coarse language made this country what it is. Go smoke some dope hippie.
You know the people who allege they are combat Vets and then go and protest men fighting for the survival of our country are really what keep me from telling my story of 22 years in the Army.
Some posters in here (pseudo smartypants in 34 and 36 especially) obviously haven’t heard the phrase “never pass up an opportunity to keep your mouth shut”. Spewing the lies you choose to believe doesnt prove anything pal.