A Follow Up to Yesterdays Discovery that there is a Difference between an Infantry Battalion and a Chorus Line
The Dutch are Deeply Hurt by the comments from former NATO commander retired General John Sheehan.
THE HAGUE, Netherlands – The Dutch prime minister Friday denounced as “irresponsible” a claim by a retired U.S. general that gay Dutch soldiers were partly to blame for allowing Europe’s worst massacre since World War II.
Dutch officials, from the Cabinet to the military, were outraged by retired Gen. John Sheehan’s remarks at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing in Washington, D.C., on Thursday.
The story is okay until the AP decided to spin a little of the history, particularly the events in Bosnia.
Dutch troops were serving in the undermanned U.N. peacekeeping force in Srebrenica when they were overrun by heavily armed Serb forces, who went on to turn the surrounding countryside into killing fields littered with mass graves.
Overrun by heavily armed Serb forces? Hard to say they were overrun when they didn’t fire a shot to protect themselves or the peace that they were sent to protect. Of all of the Dutch soldiers that were handcuffed to telephone poles in broad daylight in view of their comrades not one was wounded which is affair indicator of what a stiff resistance they offered the Serbs.
But this final quote from the article is the most laughable of all.
The Netherlands has a long history of accepting homosexuality, and gays have long been welcome in the country’s armed forces — which also allow labor unions.
As was pointed out to me in an email today from a great modern philosopher; the Dutch also have a long history is getting their asses kicked by invading armies and are only behind the French in their speed of surrender.
Category: Politics
I bet the Dutch weren’t anywhere near as outraged as the wives, mothers and children of the Moslems who were herded onto busses and taken out and shot. Panseys. The Euroweenies are so quick to press charges of war crimes I wonder why hasn’t the BN. Commander been charged?
I don’t know if homosexuality in the ranks led DIRECTLY to the Srebrenica Massacare. I do know, however, that Dutch forces performed exactly as I would have expected them to perform. They gave up without a shot because they are a feminized military. A unionized military. A wussified military. A PC military.
I had some contact with Dutch soldiers when I was stationed in Germany. They don’t really see real action as a possibility. They’re just playing Army and collecting a paycheck for it. They’re a post-militarist military. They can grow beards, join labor unions, and smoke dope. (Germans smoke hash too–I’ve seen Bundeswehr guys passing the bong in their barracks).
Holland is a good example of what liberals want America to look like. Holland’s military is a good example of what liberals want America’s armed forces to be like. The fact is that Dutch troops couldn’t do their damned job–protecting civilians from Serbs who wanted to kill them–because that would have involved–gasp!–violence!
Basically, their armed forces are a joke. If you want our armed forces to be a joke too, just let the liberals run the show. Let them use the military as the laboratory for their little social experiments. To a large extent, we already have!
So they’re deeply hurt? Would you say they’re “butt hurt”?
And for the record, if given a choice, I have more confidence in the 10th Mountain Division versus the Brokeback Mountain Division…I’m just sayin’.
I had a similiar experience with the Belgiques a few months after 9-11. I was attending their final exercise for their staff college. The Army union insisted on twice daily coffee breaks. No shit, we could be in the middle of briefing a GO and bam! It was coffee time. Everybody would get up and leave for the coffee bar for their constitutional.
These were the same guys who told me during wargaming that the opposing force (Germans) would never bring the armor through the forest and that I was being unrealistic. Myself and the German exchange officer couldn’t help but to laugh out loud in their faces.
The old maxim that you will never fight better than you are trained holds true. They were training for conformity and orthodoxy. Those few weeks were enough to convince me never to rely on our NATO allies for much, unless it involved a chow line or PX.
Belgians, eh…. I seem to recall something about German armor moving through the Ardennes, right? Some place called Bastogne?
Ben said,
“Holland is a good example of what liberals want America to look like. Holland’s military is a good example of what liberals want America’s armed forces to be like. The fact is that Dutch troops couldn’t do their damned job–- protecting civilians from Serbs who wanted to kill them–- because that would have involved–- gasp!–- violence!”
You’ve got it exactly! TJ, too.
Had some Dutch kids visit and all they wanted to do is shoot guns. A teenage chick, after a few mags in a MKII .22LR fired a 1911A1 and di a damn good job.
All the kids wanted the brass to show off to their hommies. The potential is there, politics aren’t.
“These were the same guys who told me during wargaming that the opposing force (Germans) would never bring the armor through the forest and that I was being unrealistic. Myself and the German exchange officer couldn’t help but to laugh out loud in their faces.”
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Hey, wait. Isn’t Curt Dutch?
Hey William of Orange was Dutch. Its kinda sad considering they are one of our better allies in Afghanistan now, with no special caveats. They might be a special operations unit though. I think they’re paired with the Australians.
Nothing against the Dutch, of course. Nice people. Never met a Dutchman I didn’t like. I just don’t expect much out of their military, and I certainly don’t want theirs to be a model for our own.
There’s more to this story than we’re hearing. How many Serbian hordes wander around packing scores of handcuffs? I smell collusion and a face-saving excuse.
Those who speak out against gays are usually self-hating gays.
If it wasn’t for one gay translator, chances are the USA would of been under Hitler’s control when he was alive.
Corey,
Thanks for the baseless, unfounded accusations. And the pseudo-history.
From Corey’s blog:
“America is by far the best place to be born on the face of the earth, however, the Government of the U.S.A. is also the largest Terrorist organization, raping countries near and far, of their natural resources, using the civilians, children and adults alike, for slave labor while professing they are spreading Democracy which is just a guise for their Imperialism.”
Also from his website:
“Socialism: What it is and why we need it in public forums around the country.”
Corey then links to the socialist worker website. His own blog is part of the International Union of Socialist Websites. So, in other words, Corey is an idiot.
Yes the Aussies are paired up with the Dutch in Afghanistan. I had an Aussie soldier once tell me that when he was serving in Afghanistan with the Dutch that their labor union was able to over rule the decisions of a battlefield commander. I found it hard to believe but he said it was true. Has anyone else heard this before?
So, Corey, or Carey, or whoever you are, where are the newsies with the footage of all those trucks leaving A-stan with all of their “natural resources”? That’s right, the natural resources of A-stan are dirt, sand and rocks, so no one is “exploiting” their natural resources. LMAO, you are just a typical lefty douchenozzle, with no idea what the real world is like.
Carey, er, Corey also wants free higher education, free health care, and cradle to grave entitlements. IOW, he/she is just a leech.
Hey Commie…I mean Corey; what has your communist wet dream ever done for the preservation of natural resources??? How many people have been saved by communist countries? How many people have been killed under your communist totalitarian wet dream?
Yeah, that’s what I thought, f**kstain.
I love insults, especially when the insulters are afraid to disclose who they are, and it shows the low IQ of most Americans, thanks to the dumbing down of public schools due to Republican cuts.
Thomas Jefferson wanted free higher education for all. California offered that to all its residetns until Reagan ended it. Look how good they are doing now.
Do you like bathroom breaks at work?
Do you have children around age 12 who you believe should not be forced into labor?
Do you enjoy lunch breaks at work?
Regardless of how faulty public schools, or private school are for that matter, do you believe everyone should be given a basic education k-12?
Do you like the option of calling the fire department if you home catches fire?
Do you enjoy the ability to have the oppurtunity to speak out against the government?
I could go on, but if you are educated enough, you will realize those questions asked demonstrate Socialism implemented.
If you do not like having these options, you should move to a less-Socialist/Communist country.
But I doubt you would ever do that.