Some folks who disagree with Trump’s speech
Many folks like Trump’s foreign takeover goals, but there are a few significant ones out there who don’t. Mainly, the ones who LIVE in those ripe-for-takeover places.
Canada…a great place to start. Lovely country, more lakes than you can believe, clean, sorta safe cities, kinda talk funny but from Texas, all a’ y’all do. Our favorite northern buffer zone, reliable allies – what’s not to like? Now, the Canadian tariffs are wha RREALLY don’t make sense. Supposedly we are ‘punishing’ them for not discouraging the southbound fentanyl trade. One small detail: in all of last year, we seized less than 50 pounds along that whole border.
Federal statistics show US border authorities seized 21,889 pounds of fentanyl in the 2024 fiscal year. Of that amount, 43 pounds were seized at the Canadian border — about 0.2% — compared with 21,148 pounds at the Mexican border, about 96.6%. CNN
Prime Minister Trudeau (hey, I don’t like him either) says it is a calculated economic attack to collapse Canada’s economy. BBC My perception of Canadians is that they lean leftist, and even have a whopping big province that owes allegiance to France and speaks French. Good luck getting them to recognize American English as the one true tongue. Trump must really like the idea of 35,000,000 more Democrats?
But Trump pushed even further in a post on Truth Social, saying: “Please explain to Governor Trudeau, of Canada, that when he puts on a Retaliatory Tariff on the U.S., our Reciprocal Tariff will immediately increase by a like amount!”
Well, we are already at 25%…do I hear 50% 75%?
And then there is Greenland. Officially a protectorate of Denmark. Where have we heard of them? Oh, yes, they belong to NATO with us. Trump wants to make them ours. Greenland’s Prime Minister Múte Bourup Egede says:
“Kalaallit Nunaat (Greenland in the Greenlandic language) is ours,” Egede wrote on social media. “We don’t want to be Americans, nor Danes; We are Kalaallit. The Americans and their leader must understand that. We are not for sale and cannot simply be taken. Our future will be decided by us in Greenland.”
Denmark’s Defense Minister Trouls Lund Poulsen also responded to Mr. Trump’s claims about taking over Greenland, telling the Danish public broadcaster on Wednesday: “That won’t happen.” CBS News
Sounds like a GREAT fit – who the heck can even spell the name of their language without looking?
With only 60,000 residents, Greenland would probably be no worse than taking over any other small country….say, like Ukraine. OK, that was a cheap shot. But the fact remains – if they don’t want to be part of the US, then there is no other way to rope them in if they don’t want to be bought, right? Are we now so similar to Russia that we invade our way to our goals?
Category: 2024 Election, Canada, Trump!
There was a news story I watched a while ago shortly after Trump mentioned taking over Greenland. The reporter was talking to random folks in a Greenland “city” and most thought the idea was pretty good. They didn’t care about Denmark and felt the Danes felt the same about them.
Yeah, on that one, I’d be far more interested in what the people want, vs a politician..
As for Canada, if this is just a calculated plan to better our position, I’m good with it, but the last thing we need is a huge influx of apologetic leftists, and displaced cheese eatin surrender monkeys..
Most people couldn’t find Greenland on a map if you put a
big green capital G on it.
Iceland is Green and Greenland is Ice.
And still many uneducated folks would fuck it up.
Found it!!!
Congratulations!
Thank you! Can I have a cookie?
I can see the headline already.. ” TRUMP KILLS DEMOCRAT CONGRESSMAN WITH JOINT ADDRESS”…
Apparently the night was too much for the dude that replaced “all hat-no cattle” Lee, and he passed away right after the speech. RIP Mr. Turner. ( can we do Pelosi next?)
You can just bet that some on the left will blame Trump.
DEA says one kilogram has the potential to kill 500,000 people. 43 lbs equals 19.45 kilograms. That’s 9,725,000 people. So yeah, 43 lbs is no big thing.
https://www.dea.gov/resources/facts-about-fentanyl
That’s enough to end the war in Ukraine.
Probably enough to end Ukraine.
Those numbers are highly suspect.
Is this ‘ pure ‘ fetty? Or was it heavily cut and ready for sale?
IIRC it looked to be an uncut bulk shipment.
Got the 43 lbs from the original post, the 500,000 potential deaths per kilo from the DEA. Did the math and checked it twice. Please note that the DEA says “potential” deaths. YMMV.
Welp, we certainly don’t need a bunch more demonrat leaning folks, tho I’d venture to say that once one got away from the “metro” areas of Canada one would find that those folks have a lot more in common with “limited” grubermint types like many of us. Not sure how much “Canadian” products I buy and whether or not a tariff would help or hurt me. It is nice to know that we don’t have to defend a several thousands of mile border. Same with Greenland. At the end of the day, the ultimate consumer is the one that pays for a tariff so… How about we just look at a mutual defense type situation, you know…some kind of “Doctrine”? James Monroe…grins.
I’m just curious, but what kind of tariffs did Canada have in place against the USA prior to Trump taking office?
^^^THIS^^^
Canada is our neighbor, friend, and partner, sure. Canadians behave badly then gaslight us when we call them on it and demand equal, reciprocal trade and tariffs.
If your “partner” objects to your reaction without taking accountability for the behavior on their part that instigated your reaction …
“If your “partner” objects to your reaction without taking accountability for the behavior on their part that instigated your reaction …”
My ex-wife did not understand that.
A lot of that going around in international politics, too. Innocent, peace-loving Ukraine et al. vs. nasty Russians.
I do not recall any loaded milk tankers headed north. I believe they have a very high tariff on milk and milk products to protect their own farmers and I get that. All so lots of logs go north on Canadian trucks. Mostly hardwood I believe. Trains carry lots of softwood lumber south out of Canada. That I suppose is an exchange. There is or was a rule that American trucks could only cross the border loaded in one direction. If you went north loaded you must return empty. I only crossed the border a few times and that was the deal. If you went north empty you could return loaded.
Canada has always had high tariffs on US imports. The free trade deal was a scam in which it was free for them, but not for us.
For far too long the US has been giving free trade privileges to nations that do not reciprocate the deal.
Invading foreign countries, used to be a Democrat thing. Since Regan however, every Republican President has done on the flimsiest of excuses. Let’s knock it off and try better foreign policy instead.
Point taken, but which country has Trump invaded?
None… yet
Lets.all hope it stays that way. I see him as more of wheeling and dealing to acquire territory, not going to war.. YMMV
With all this canadian stuff going on, Wilf Carter
AKA Montana slim is turning over in his grave right now.
I’ll get my Montana Slim dvd with “My French Candian Girl”
1958 on the Decca label and listen to it. AY.
Myself and hundreds of other Veterans were just unjustly and perhaps illegally RIFd this week from my Agency.
Nothing but excellent performance reviews, always went above and beyond, four years shy of my 20, some smug Harvard asshole that never served a day of Military or public service in his life just pulled the damn rug out from us under the pretense of “reorganization” to try to get a loophole out of what would otherwise be outright illegal.
I didn’t watch the speech. I couldn’t after reading the WH Advisor rub salt in the wound by stating I “didn’t deserve a job”:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna194721
I have never felt more politically homeless in my life than I have right now. The work me and my coworkers did were important services to the American people, but they (DOGE advisors) did not care. They had “numbers to hit” and they’ll deal with the consequences of these actions later or “we’ll figure a way to make it work later.”
This is not how you treat your Veterans and Public Servants that gave up most of their life to serve the American people.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-federal-workers-veterans-fired-1032360fdc6b2fb33d88edaf8f54d5ca
I genuinely feel for you losing your job and having to start over. It’s happened to me twice (strangely, being a veteran didn’t spare me either). Here’s some advice from my experience:
Make finding a job, your new job. Work at it. Minimum 8 hours a day, as many days of the week as it takes. Check job sites, apply for jobs, specifically write individual resumes for each application that is addressed specifically to the job being applied for. Find out information about the company so when you get an interview, you can ask intelligent questions about them and show that you did your homework.
Go to job fairs. I spent hours on the road going to job fairs hundreds of miles away. Network, talk to people, make sure everyone you know, knows you’re looking for work.
Granted, you might not be able to find something as cushy or well-paid as that sweet, sweet, taxpayer funded gig…but if you put in the effort, you’ll be OK.
See that last bit on the final paragraph is a giant lie that too many people in the American public is falling for. I easily put in 60-80 hours a week and never worked from home.
I’ve put in the effort since I first joined the Navy after Highschool and earned two degrees while working off hours. I am not some fat lazy slob drinking sodas and eating Cheetos collecting a paycheck. I’m also not a shadowy figure plotting your destruction in a smoke filled room.
I didn’t do this for money. I did it for the same reason I joined the military. And to pull the rug out from so many of us at this stage in life is so much more than simply immoral and unethical.
What agency(?) and are you sure that your HCO was treating you proper. Many Vets are being called back after an improper filing. Did they let go of your whole branch or job series? Some of my vets were brought back with an oops.
Wait and see. It may happen. This just happened this afternoon:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093
“…Navy after Highschool and earned two degrees while working off hours.”
The Navy must be even easier than I thought; so many off hours.
Some of us didn’t party and bar hop all the time after work.
“And to pull the rug out from so many of us at this stage in life”
Welcome to the civilian world, aka reality. Where in either your enlistment contract or the civil service regs are you guaranteed lifetime employment?
This is the same mentality the far left has. See the “learn to code” comment below.
Or, as my parents used to say: Life isn’t fair. Get used to it, get over it and get on with it.
“Granted, you might not be able to find something as cushy or well-paid as that sweet, sweet, taxpayer funded gig…but if you put in the effort, you’ll be OK.”
Stop buying into the lie. Yes, there are probably thousands of government employees that could disappear and never be missed. There are thousands more that actually do earn their pay every day. Everyone in government employ is not a GS-12 or higher, earning six figures. We’re not all bitching about having to come back to work, we were always there. Telework was never an option for most. I’m a government employee, Wage Grade. Our hourly rate is based on the local civilian rate for equivalent work. I’m paid well for my work, but cushy? Not on your life. I earn every damn dime of the taxpayer’s money I’m paid . Put that broad brush down.
“Yes, there are probably thousands of government employees that could disappear and never be missed.”
And we know that you’re not one of those…why exactly? Because you say so?
That is our tax money paying the salaries of those thousands of government employees that could disappear and never be missed. We are somewhere between 35 and 60 (depending on who you ask) TRILLION dollars in debt, and yet we continue to pay the salaries of thousands of government employees who could disappear and never be missed (I’d bet the number is a LOT higher than “thousands”).
Budget cuts hurt. That’s why they’re called “cuts” and not “tickles” (I can’t claim credit for that one…I saw it somewhere else recently but I can’t remember where). I am sincerely empathetic that it has hurt you specifically, but that’s life. Sometimes it isn’t fair and you lose some good meat while trimming off the fat.
With your experience and education, and if you’re as motivated as you claim, you should have no trouble finding another job and landing on your feet.
Hopefully you’ve been wise enough to put some money away to get you through in the meantime.
“And we know that you’re not one of those…why exactly? Because you say so?”
Yes. Because I am literally almost the very bottom of the federal employee food chain. I get to deal with operating on the crumbs left from the massive bureaucracy above me. Don’t get me wrong, I love my job, everyone in this organization busts their ass every day. When I say we’re small, if we were fully staffed we’d have 50 people. Many of us are replaceable, and currently, a few are not.
I agree 100% with everything you say. The budget needs to be cut drastically. Good people will lose jobs and it will hurt across the board. “Managers” at the top will protect their own asses and those that kiss their asses and toss out productive people. My point is that when you lump all government employees in one pile, you are 100% wrong.
Perhaps, within whatever government body you were a part of, veterans were specifically targeted for the reduction in force so that a left-leaning manager can reinforce the notion that these cuts hurt veterans more and that is proof that “TRUMP HATES VETERANS!”
Maybe that leftist manager is also upset that as a veteran, you got some small preference in the hiring process and that preference was not of the manager’s preferred type, i.e., not due to your being of a certain racial, sexual, or gender-identifying demographic.
That “leftist manager” in my case (The Acting Administrator) did so broadly across the entire country to all of us this week. That “leftist manager” has zero public service background (forget military), and only got the position because his wife worked directly under Elon Musk at X.
SSA and you have a real complaint with MSPB.
I don’t work for SSA.
Other than 24 years in the Army I never worked for the Federal Government. I was assigned to an unnarmed agency however where the civilians vastly outnumbered the military members.
I worked there two and half years and saw everything that Trump is making mass accusations of. They could easily have eliminated about half the 8000 positions at the agency and not suffered at all. They were throwing money away hand over fist. When I retired they tried to get me to join on the civil side. However I didn’t want to become a part of the problem and instead took a job where I felt I could do some good and worked hard every day completely away from that system.
That said, I know there are places that are getting the axe that don’t deserve it, they, and you are collateral damage for the excesses of many others. The problem here is that there is no way to reform the system and therefore they are burning the whole thing to the ground.
Many have tried and failed to reform the system. The resistance is embedded within. The defense has always been to the system, even when unconscionable. So good parts are now falling with the bad.
I know this doesn’t help you at all. All I am saying is that I made a choice not to be a part of a system that was corrupt, even if I had been doing good I knew the system was corrupt and would fail at some point and take me with it.
Ever wonder how military folks feel when RIFfed?
I got “downsized” when the industry I was in imploded in 1999-2001. Top notch reviews, couldn’t get fired if I peed in the coffee pot. Boom. Streetsville. Ego check – “Help meeeee!” Wound up doing better at the next one, and very much better since. Now, glad it happened. But then? Ugh…
The federal system has got to be pruned back to something sustainable. If you worked in it, you know how dysfunctional are the good parts. The bad parts are simply insane. Got to happen and this is the only practical way, suddenly and massively.
Yup. I concur it majorly sucks swamp rocks to get caught up in someone else’s drama. Been through lots of other folks drama.
You will get through this. You will do better.
Yep. I got fired so many times, I lost count. In my limited experience, the better the job the higher the chance you gonna get fired. In the end, it helped me develop thick skin and the hunter instincts to accept that the only constant in life is change.
It sucks, but my job as a man is to learn to thrive in the suckage.
Yes. I also know how that feels on the military side.
I was not able to finish my time in Active Duty after completing my undergrad because:
1:Furloughs and Perform To Serve was rampant at the time.
2:The prick Officer recruiter said “You’re enlisted. The Navy already has you anyways.”
That’s no excuse for smashing entire Agencies to pieces, hurting their livelihoods without looking into what the people actually do there.
“…smashing entire Agencies to pieces…”
Try not to get too hysterical.
After this week it’s a literal fact.
Some agencies, Dept. of Ed. and USAID for example, deserve to be smashed.
Learn to code.
He is angry, I get it. I was too but anger did not feed the girls and pay the bills. I was let go under Obama, just find a job and move back up.
Yes that was said to them. Therefore it’s okay to say the same to all the veterans like myself.
Just the whiners who look down on civilians and think that wearing a uniform for a few years entitles them to a lifetime of suckling at the public teat.
Yep been there let it go. Last big job was under Obama and solar. He remitted, company lost millions and I went back to $50,000 a year. Life happens. No guarantees in life.
I have since sold my house, moved to a more friendly state and built a place much cheaper than we had. Wife was able to retire, I cannot just now , but at $57 plus I am close, shit sucks, but my mortgage is less than 30% of local rent and we live good, just get with your family and work it out. It is doable, as long as you love each other.
I’m a veteran too.
Only grubermint job I ever had, I quit…when I ETS’d. Tried to get a grubermint job but wasn’t hired because I WAS a Vet (Drug abusing baby killer period), was NOT the right race, or the proper sex. Reminded me of the NINA (No Irish Need Apply) Tales from my ancestors. Took any job I could find until I built a career, lost jobs thru no fault of my own even with great productivity records, and the final job I had in that career field I said eff’it…I’ll do something else. Best.move.EVAH. Made a lot more $, enjoyed the work more, built a very decent 401K, and moved on. Yeah it sucked the big one each time and no I don’t agree, as stated before, in the way this reduction is happening. I have some feelers out to vets and non vets both that may be caught up in this. I do know, so far, of a case or so where the vet and the non vet had the same skills/time in employment level where the Vet was let go and the non vet was moved around. Go figure.
Be of good cheer, you’ll bounce back and find you a spot. Lots of good employers are screaming for folks like you to either add to their workforce or replace ones that need to go. Not the first time that a new prezzy tried some chopping. RR tried it in ’81 and it failed, miserably. Linky below. Good Luck.
https://theviewfromladylake.blogspot.com/2025/03/today-in-history-does-this-sound.html
I think there’s a misconception amongst some on here about why people like myself do the work that we do. Again, I do the work that I do because I believe in the mission and do it to help the American people. It’s the same reason I joined the military.
I didn’t do this for money. I could’ve done this job in the private sector years ago and made a whole lot more money and not worked insane hours seven days a week. I do it because I strive to cut costs and save money for the US taxpayer.
But, without getting into too much details, I’ll say this. The dummies that are doing some of this stuff are making some really bad mistakes that are going to cost the taxpayer more than they’re claiming to save. When you eliminate all of the people that serve a certain function, and that ends up putting the government on the hook for penalties and fines for work that can no longer be accomplished, you’re going to start to see (if you haven’t already) some of these people with egg on their face.
And that will not go over to well with the President, much less the American people, who will also feel the effects from this.
“I could’ve done this job in the private sector years ago and made a whole lot more money and not worked insane hours seven days a week. ”
Now is your chance! Go for it!
BINGO
Yep. Now is your chance to prove it to everyone. I imagine you have been saying it for years. God knows I heard it enough when I worked with civilians.
Ya know, I’ve never liked it when good hardworking people lose their job due to factors they can’t control whether it be the private sector or public sector. Why would I ever cheer for something like that?
But it’s these types of comments that make you no different from the people you claim to despise.
Someone posted “learn to code” above.
Yes, it’s that same mentality.
I hope you don’t work in a math related field. If you did you would realize that we have to make cuts because the budget is insanely out of control.
We are literally stealing money from our great grand kids to keep people employed with the Federal Government.
Most folks here, yourself included, chose to serve in the military. Would you still have chosen to do so over an option for a higher paying job?
I tend to think so. That applies to a lot of people who serve the country outside of the military too. It ain’t about making more money.
Can’t think of a higher paying job than military officer that allows you to run the military. Did I do it for the money? I did it because there were literally no other options.
Can’t speak towards other jobs in the government. I imagine most are transferable. Even if what you do is highly specialized, there nearly always is a civilian contractor counterpart.
I joined for the college money. I stayed 24 years, never went to college. It wasn’t the career I had planned on, but it was still a great career and a hell of an adventure.
And I’d do it again.
“I joined for the college money.”
What?!?! I am shocked! A veteran who actually confesses he did not enlist out of patriotism and a self-sacrificial compulsion to dedicate your life to serving others? Shame on you! You reflect poorly on the rest of us saintly paragons of virtue. Egads, a mercenary!
“Would you still have chosen to do so over an option for a higher paying job?”
At the time I enlisted, every civilian job paid more. What’s your point?
“. It ain’t about making more money.”
Never said it was.
Amen.
I tried to get a job with the VA once. Drove 30 minutes for the interview where I was told the job had already been filled. I guess those hard-working public servants were just too busy to call me, a ten-point veteran, and tell me before the interview. Nice drive, though. Nice new scenery, not much traffic.
Tried to get a job on PENDELTON after being a 3522 Sgt. never got an interview. Was told in a bar I would make them look bad, poisoned me against civilian workers. Not much sympathy from me.
A lot of government agencies truly suck at keeping job notifications at USAJOBS updated. That, and the fact that a lot of times, that job has been filled internally and the job notification is just a formality, a box that has to be checked. Where I come from, that’s called fraud.
“that’s called fraud.”
Yeah, I learned about that particular practice a few years later. A dear friend of mine benefited from it, which leaves me with mixed feelings.
I’m so deeply sorry to hear that, QMC. I hope you and your family are doing okay, and there was at least some severance to help you get your feet under you.
And while people here seem to be giving you shit, I fully relate to your sense of duty and service – I’m not military, but I do my government job -also on the line, expected to be cut in a week or two- for far less than I’d make in the private sector because some things, like serving your country, go beyond the money.
I also relate to being politically homeless, even if we likely reached that from differing sides. If you or your family need anything -food, a friendly ear for support, etc- please feel free to reach out. AW1Ed has my email. It’s a shitty situation that has been so needlessly chaotic, and supporting fellow Americans regardless of politics is important.
Thanks LC. I have already had a recruiter from a company reach out to me this afternoon, so I may be more fortunate than others, if they don’t realize they made a bad mistake with the mass RIF and call us back in the coming days.
I actually care and poured my heart and soul into the mission. If they don’t change the course on some of this, it’s going to tear me apart seeing everything fall apart over the next few months and create an insane mess for others to clean up.
If I didn’t give a shit, I would be far more lackadaisical.
Glad to hear that — I do hope they realize their mistake, but absent that, I hope you can find a similar sense of mission and purpose in a new job, too.
I think some of the cynicism from others here is they never had the experience of wanting to put your heart and soul into a job. Having had that, I wouldn’t want anything different.
Keep us in the loop, and the offer still stands if there’s anything I can do to help.
Yeah, LC, you dumb fuck. That is why I spent 24 years in the military; lack of commitment.
Way to willfully misinterpret the point, 5JC.
My point was different than yours by pointing out you don’t know what you are talking about.
“I think some of the cynicism from others here is they never had the experience of wanting to put your heart and soul into a job”.
Defend that.
Sorry, old boy, but I think you hung yourself with your confession of enlisting for your own benefit.
I have no shame in enlisting for my own benefit. The military recruits heavily using that tactic. I enlisted to better myself, learn a job skill, gain experience and self motivation, as well as serve my country. I took all that the US Army had to offer, and gave them just as much back over 24 years. It’s common. I’m honest enough to admit it.
“I have no shame in enlisting for my own benefit”
Nor do I. I remember with some amusement getting into a “discussion” (maybe here?) about why people enlist. A surprising, to me, number insisted vehemently that enlistment was motivated purely by patriotism and sacrifice. Strangely, I have heard more about the noble and patriotic motivations of enlistees here on this site than I ever did in my four years of active duty. Or my life as a Navy brat and son of an Annapolis graduate with 23 years of active duty. Or with other veterans as a civilian. That “lived experience” is one reason for my cynical skepticism.
“I think some of the cynicism from others here is they never had the experience of wanting to put your heart and soul into a job”.
For fuck’s sake, read the room. You’re ass deep in veterans, many of them career military, many of them faced death on a regular basis and won, and you say that? I try very hard to respect your differing opinions, but that was some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard you say. Beyond Commissar stupid.
The context of this was QMC, with many years of service, being told to ‘learn to code’ and get a job in the private sector. How does this sound?
“I think some of the cynicism from others here is they never had the experience of wanting to put your heart and soul into a job as much as they did with their military service.“
That was the implicit (to me) statement. Working for Google as a coder to better target ads doesn’t exactly give the same sense of fulfillment as working for the betterment of the country, in my opinion.
Mea culpa if the implicit intent was misunderstood. I’d have thought it was obvious from the context, but hey, maybe I’m wrong.
Have I ever, in my entire time coming here, disparaged veterans or their commitment to serving the country, though? We disagree on policies and politics, SFC D, but I’ve got nothing but respect for everyone here.
I guess I should have mentioned that after I retired I moved into law enforcement and put it on the line every single day for another 11 years, hell I’m still serving in some reduced capacity.
So plenty of vets go on to other careers where they put it out there. So I’m sticking with you don’t know what you are talking about and you were being mildly insulting.
A bit more than “mildly”.
And may God forgive me for my blasphemies against the obvious holiness of Veterans.
Your intent may have been honorable, but your words did not even come close to conveying it. Quite the opposite.
” Beyond Commissar stupid.”
I beg to differ. He is still a step or two above that level.
On any other occasion, I wouldn’t say he was stupid. Jumped into the deep end on this one though.
On the other hand, some of that cynicism is born of experience. Frankly, I would expect those who frequent a site which prides itself on exposing stolen valor to exhibit a bit more skepticism about those who constantly preach about their saintly devotion to duty, honor, sacrifice, etc.
The main Lefty ratholes are Toronto, Ottawa, Lower Mainland of BC and Vancouver Island( Kanuckistani version of Bay Area)
The Poodle Pumpers are generally a pretty good bunch (outside of Montreal and Queerbec City)
Edmonton and Calgary are the Canadian ‘ Red ‘ cities