Holiday Open Thread
Happy Columbus Day! Today would be a good day to recommend “Death of the Fifth Sun”. I read this book about 30 years ago, it would make for a good movie, the kind that Mel Gibson makes. The story is told from the perspective of the Native Americans. If you’re into history fiction, this book is worth the read.
Category: Open thread
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In honor of Indigenous Columbus Day I would like to point out several truths that the Native Americans discovered.
Firstly they discovered the profound effects of what happens when you don’t control illegal immigration into your lands. Secondly the word and written contract of the US Federal Government when promising to protect your rights, lands and people are only worth what you can enforce at the end of a gun barrel and nothing else. Lastly if your religion is a little bit different than how most of the population worships, they may eventually let you do it, it just takes 200 years.
Hack is wondering if all of the Woke posting on Facebook decrying the celebration of White European conquest are taking the day off. And do they get whiplash from saying that America is stolen land from the mostly peaceful indigenous people who lived in perfect harmony and didn’t even know what a horse was until Columbus arrived, then say that all people are welcome here and borders are racist?
All land was taken from somebody, unless it was bought that is.
Indians killing and enslaving each other was just “anecdotal” all the times it happened, right?
Nah. Human sacrifice is still outlawed.
So far.
Meh, they didn’t have that in what is now the USA. That was more of an Aztec thing with a few others in Mesoamerica and Central America. But in 1978 the US dropped practically all restrictions on otherwise illegal acts that were considered part of their tribal religious rituals.
“Practically all” are the key words.
A better comparison to what is happening with uncontrolled immigration in the US would be the last major part of Ancient Roman history… The Late Antiquity. The Western Roman Empire didn’t just face invasions, but mass migrations from outside the Roman Empire. The native Roman birthrate was declining around the time. Although the Germanic tribes Romanized, they also brought in enough of their culture and way of doing things that Western Roman Civilization transformed from what we see in the movies to what we associate with Medieval Europe… Before the dates that scholars point to as the “Fall of the Western Roman Empire”. Even the last units of the Roman army looked like a Medieval army.
The Native Americans were no angels on their end, there’s one event where Montezuma voluntold the leaders of conquered nations to attend a massive ceremony… They watched as their own men got sacrificed in a ritual that led to thousands being sacrificed that day. It was this and other brutal Aztec activities against the conquered natives that contributed to Cortez’s gaining Native American warriors as allies.
The history with the arrival of the Europeans continued a trend that occurred throughout the world, including powerful nations subjugating weaker nations.
It’s not Roman Empire Day.
In for 2nd. The first loser.
Congrat 5JC.
3rd. I’d say something smart, but it’s too earyl.
Does this mean that Hack Stone’s Reina’s ruler of the Open Thread is no longer?
The WOT, HOT, MOT, ROT, etc., are different contests. You still reign for WOT first until the next WOT, where you’ll compete to remain on the WOT throne.
On station.
A couple of days late, but now Chicoms hassle Taiwan about their president’s speech… remember it’s still an optimal time to move on the island:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-holds-military-drills-around-063810227.html
Chicoms cut it short, talk some trash, go home:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-starts-round-war-games-222553849.html
Another Good historical novel from the native POV is Aztec by Gary Jennings. It was very controversial at the time for the depictions of human sacrifice and a lot of truth telling about the Catholic Church and he got a lot of push back, saying it weren’t so. However, he backed it all up.
The Day of the Shekel it will be called from now on…
Last drink for the Jihad warrior is a Jinn & Tonic and then poof!
Comet last night here in Arizona
Turns out ol’ Chris was a Sephardi Jew. So now all the anti-semites get to tag in. Guy can’t catch a break.
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/10/13/dna-study-resolves-centuries-old-mystery-christopher-columbus-was-a-spanish-jew/
And another one
Last one didn’t post