CT Mayors have rare burst of clarity

| February 21, 2023

The Hartford Courant reports that Connecticut mayors gathered at the state capitol armed with some interesting facts: Their studies show that most gun crime is committed by, and on, repeat offenders. Criminals.

Last week at the state Capitol, Woods joined Connecticut’s big city mayors, who… backed up the legislative pitch with a startling statistical analysis of gun crimes that shows most gun criminals are chronic reoffenders who are committing second and third offenses while released on bail or probation.

The gun criminals are, according to the numbers, a relatively small, violent group with felony records. They commit a significant percentage of urban gun crimes while free on bond and awaiting trial on other crimes, or while on parole or probation after prior convictions and prison sentences, data shows.

…Connecticut’s big city mayors, who departed from the new decriminalization orthodoxy to push a package of proposed laws that would enhance bail and sentencing laws

Not sure how much of a blinding revelation this is to most folks. Criminals commit most crimes – who’da thunk it? But, as glaringly obvious as it is, there are always the state lawmakers to worry about:

But it was unclear what reception their proposals would get from the Democratic-controlled legislature, where recent gun proposals trend more toward limiting gun access than prosecution.

Courant via Yahoo

But note the contrast: at least some of these mayors are supporting proposals to make the penalties more drastic for committing crimes with guns; but the legislators favor restricting everybody’s access to guns . Legislators, who seem to have a remarkably low percentage of veterans, sure seem to embrace the military-style “one person screws up, the entire unit suffers” sort of mentality, don’t they? Next thing ya know, after a drunk-driving crash on the other side of town they’ll want you to turn in your truck

These punish-the-actual-criminals programs have been tried before. A notable example was Project Exile in Richmond, VA several years back when Richmond was the murder capital of cities in its population group (100,000 people) .   It made gun federal charges mandatorily prosecutable, no plea-bargaining them away. In the first year it prosecuted 372 people and its murder rate plummetted by 40%.  Police Chief Magazine

Unfortunately, there were charges that since persons of color were disportionately affected by Exile, that it was wrong. Apparently the (politically incorrect yet still true)  fact that a disportionate number of shooting crimes are committed by POC isn’t relevant. Reminds me of an article (which, sadly I am unable to relocate handily) lamenting that the majority of casualties of police car accidents were due to calls in minority neighborhoods – ignoring that in pretty much every larger city I know of, the highest number of urgent calls to crime scenes was – where? Think the latest outrage is for a woman, standing in a bike lane, who was struck by a police car in Queens…  takes time to find any articles that mention that the police car,  which had lights and siren going, was attempting to pass another car when its driver turned left into the police car.USA Today via Yahoo   No mention of any culpability on the part of the left-turning driver.

No, I don’t dislike POC, far from it. But let’s say I appear in this song:

 

Category: "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", Crime, Guns, Politics

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Deckie

Many of these big CT cities are cesspools and have been for decades without change. A history of shitbag mayors and their failed policies — or failure to enforce any — keeps them as cesspools. They likely will remain so until I’m well settled into the ground pushing up flowers.

Waterbury and Bridgeport immediately come to mind. Once gorgeous cities ruined by fucking idiots. They should go Exile x 10000 in these places.

Roh-Dog

Heck, Hartford still has beautiful buildings and areas, but nearly the whole of Her is a free-fire zone.

Colt, Whitney, Twain, the insurance companies, etc… so much wealth, gone.

I used to work in a house from ~1880 with hand inlaid wood mosaic floors. Cherry, oak, walnut, etc in columned frame, patterned borders with a nature scene in center.

I couldn’t imagine what that would cost today…

Too bad the ‘old farm house’ is in the south end of Hardfart between state subsidized townhouses, an apartment building where the money man stands underneath a window and crack/heroin/whatever is dropped from above and an oft raided ‘massage parlor’.

……

Damn shame what these folks have done to this state.

Best (/s) part about it, the flow of criminals is pushing further and further into the ‘burbs (see my data below).

Post law conditions are slowly becoming the norm.

Deckie

I’m from the Housatonic River Valley and from what friends there tell me the crime is spreading into those areas as well — mostly riff raff from Waterbury and Bridgeport. Damn shame — “The Brass City” (Waterbury) and Bridgeport used to be gorgeous cities.

Thanks, assholes. Like I said — Exile x 10000… throw them in jail and ditch the key.

Roh-Dog

Got that straight. Would join my Português /Brazilian friends in Waterbury for their cultural festivals. Much fun, great food, wonderfully friendly people. (just don’t get caught necking with a young lady before meeting their parents and being passably Portuguese, which my blue-eyed devil self ain’t)

Now? I wouldn’t step foot in H20ville after dark. Off the top of my head at least 2 shootings at bars in 3 or so years, not to mention all the other assclownery.

Often the exiles-in-waiting are from spit parent households, with one half living in civilized comfort and the other still in the belly of the beast.

Into the higher income areas they import bad attitudes and beefs, often resulting in ballistic spats.

A foe with a gun means more criminally used guns, too frequent with good citizens in betwixt.

HT3

No matter the statistic or fact; A politicians first reaction is to put MORE POWER in the hands of the government. Whether to punish or not punish based on their whims, what they want now and forever is MORE POWER. The Wu Flu gave them a taste of authoritarianism, and now they’re dunk on it.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

Truly evil politicians will burn their domains to the ground so they can rule over the ashes.

5JC

No other way to say it but black people (13% of the population) commit nearly half the gun homicides in the entire country. Once you add in all non-whites (25% of the population) it goes well above 50%, so yes any laws that target murderous use of guns are going to have a larger effect on black people since they are much likely to kill people with guns.

“FBI Data – Expanded Homicide Data Table 6” gives an annual historical accounting and this has remained consistent for decades.
One of the arguments that the left is always making is “Why can’t we be more like Europe? Clearly their reasonable gun laws is the reason their murder rate is so low….” The reason it won’t work is because we aren’t like Europe. We have a diverse population. If our demographics matched say the UK, France or Switzerland and our murder rate were adjusted accordingly by population then our murder rate would actually drop well below France, and be about the same as the others.

5JC

This answer doesn’t sit well with most people because it is an uncomfortable truth. And as is so common on the left, they refuse to face a truth when it is staring them in the face, therefore they will never be able to solve this problem.

Project Exile worked but it should be a part of a better solution, rather than the only solution. The problem is that better solutions would invovle solving problems in black communities that lead to violence and absolutely no one in power is interested in doing that.

RGR 4-78

The problem is that better solutions would invovle solving problems in black communities that lead to violence”

The problem is that this would slow the narrative that guns are bad.

If you slow the narrative, you slow the flow of money to the politicians and other leaders.

If you slow the flow of money that is bad therefore guns must stay evil.

5JC

Currently Jackson, MS has the highest murder rate in the world of any city outside of a war zone. In 2022 there was more than one murder for every 1000 persons in the city or more than 17 times the national average. It’s not unusual to find body parts like severed heads laying in the street or to hear gunfire during the middle of the day.

It is literally the perfect storm of insane left wing politics. The mayor is an actual black separatist who wants to found a homeland for blacks only along the Southern black belt from Mississippi through Georgia by taking property from the states and making a reservation of sorts. I’m trying to figure what the media response would be say if the mayor of Nashville wanted to start a “whites only homeland”.

Be that as it is, they have problems only God himself can solve.

USMC Steve

Sounds sort of like Mogadishu.

USMC Steve

And these facts are very clearly represented in the FBI published Unified Crime Report.

MIRanger

One cannot expect politicians to think logical. It is contrary to thier being. What is popular is all that a politician cares about.
Now one might say that those thar’ Mayors were acting like leaders, because they were doing something that would effect thier constiuents: Making the most happy by effecting the least amount! Surley this cannot be a trend.

Av8or33

CT cities at one time were some of the most affluent and nicest places to live in the country. Generous and immediate welfare benefits spurred migration from poorer states, the cities became overwhelmed and raised property taxes to compensate. The WW2 GI bill allowed many families the opportunity to leave and grew the surrounding suburbs. As families left and took their money with them the tax burden fell on businesses, CT was a manufacturing powerhouse and they were used as a cash cow for liberal welfare state policies. Guess what happened next? They started to leave. The cities became less relevant to the surrounding suburbs as shopping centers, and malls were built, long standing companies moved from the cities to the suburbs. Families no longer had ties to the old neighborhoods. Democrats from the cities have now been pushing regionalization for decades with little effect. They are blaming white flight, and of course racism for problems they caused starting decades ago.

KoB

My shelf of shocked faces is as barren as my field. Damn shame that about 3% of a certain segment of the population have smeared the ones that are decent, hardworking folks. Something else we can blame the roots of back to LBJ and his “Great Society”, bringing about the destruction of the family unit and developing the “give me” mentality.

The gunz grabbers want the crime rate to continue to grow. The easier it will be to declare a police state and increase their control of We, The People.

Robert Szrama

If the politicians so worried about the disproportionate prosecution of people of color for gun crimes were half as concerned about the people of color who are the victims of those crimes perhaps the laws would be enforced

5JC

Consistently 80-90% of the victims of murders committed by black people are of course black.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

I remember reading a study done back in the 80’s which said that back then an inner city Black Man had about a 1 in 20 chance of being murdered, life in inner cities is about as cheap as in the third world and yes, there inner cities lorded over by D-rats for decades.

Old tanker

There is so much that makes no sense. Voters elect liberal demokrats who then decide to pass laws that affect the voters (plain old good citizens) far more than the criminals preying on the citizens. It’s as if they blame the citizens for the actions of the criminals and think punishing citizens will make criminals stop being criminals. Such a lack of logical thought there.

I have no real idea if the quote is correctly attributed but I like and agree with the sentiment, especially given the idiocy over the last several years.

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A Proud Infidel®️™️

If Gun Control Laws are so great, then how do liberal idiot politicians explain Chicago?

A Proud Infidel®™

Yeah, I’ve heard that feeble excuse as well, libtard pols use that because they cannot accept that THEY aid, abet and embolden criminals by reassuring them via legislation that law-abiding people will be unarmed VICTIMS.

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rgr769

That is their standard excuse why their highly restrictive gun laws don’t reduce gun related crimes. They always ignore the reality that criminals about to commit gun crime felonies couldn’t care less about violating restrictive gun control laws.

5JC

Wait a second… Since guns cause crimes these other states must have a much higher gun crime rate than Chicago right?

Roh-Dog

SITREP in the soiled trenches from behind enemy lines:

Our government* in the failed state of Confusion, err, Connecticrap has an AG who barks like a trained seal over things (Art 1, Sec 5), worked reeeeaaaaalllllly hard to restrict him some 2A.

Atrophy General Tong, and the Executive, has let the few societally-disinterested parties of the criminal-class dictate the tune (yeah, mass punishment is grand… motherFUCK the illegally foisted by ’emergency cert’ “Public” Act 13-3).

*by ‘our’ I mean the government of/for/by State, not of the People, bound by mandate: reverence to the founding principles and the moral shackles of the Constitutions.

Hope these links work! 1 of ?

Roh-Dog

Of course, with the passing of P.A. 13-3 I am sooooo glad the “State Polices” done “establish[ed] and maintain a registry of all persons required to register […] as offenders convicted of an offense committed with a deadly weapon.”

So how’s THAT going?!

well….

Mister Cori Winston:

then: I swear Winston had charge and a sealed gun case where he may have snitched on a gun runner in New Britain/Waterbury and/or rolled on the seller of ‘stolen’ firearms from GA located in Enfield. Can’t find either nor a record now… DAs be bending for stoolies IMO

now , CTPost: Manchester police: Man threatened woman with rifle

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Roh-Dog

Mister Shaheem Watkins:

Then
(note: ticketed for ‘a traffic violation’ in JAN22 and suspect of a shooting in AUG21. Where was the FUH-KING warrant?)

now , Journal Inquirer: Glastonbury man accused of pointing gun at woman

Roh-Dog

Finally, for the arguably ‘worst of the worst’ insofar as the ‘state’ failing to do-a-fuck-thing to stop criminals behaving criminally.

Mister Kijuan Terrell:

then

now , Yahoo! ‘news’: Man held on $250,000 bond in Glastonbury gun, drug case
…………….

The POS journos keep calling these individuals ‘men’ ffs. I transit this area quite frequently and would be happy to teach these individuals the finer points of manliness.

Now I am no fan of disbarment from the RTKABA, but there is a point that a person’s behavior warrants a long stay in ward of the state to remove the desire to act violently from their soul.

These 3 are worthy candidates.

Keep your head on a swivel! I highly suggest doing some S2 work for your AO.

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Roh-Dog

Yet you have armed citizens dealing with these crims in their lingua franca.
FGS?
The best kind.

About Mister Jashar Haslam of Hartford, had 25ish open charges. He’ll be answering for those on a different plane of existence methinks.

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Berliner

Grew up in a small Illinois town (8k population), birthplace of Wyatt Earp and temporary childhood homes of both Ronald Reagan and mass murderer Richard Speck in their childhood. All surrounded by cornfields and occasionally smelled hogs.
Just a 16 mile drive to the Mississippi river and a view of Iowa.

I graduated HS in 1972 and left for Army basic 2 weeks later.
During deer/duck hunting season it was not unusual to see a a few student-driven pickup trucks parked around the school with either a rifle or a shotgun in the gun rack in the back window. No issues with the school or local PD and no stolen guns.