The Gadsden flag is a dangerous and extremist “right wing” symbol according to NPR

| August 12, 2022

Governor Ron DeSantis posted a sample Florida license plate containing the Gadsden flag. Among those who reacted was NPR’s Scott Neuman. He argued that the Gadsden flag has now become a symbol of “right wing extremist ideology”. Neuman references others who had issues with the Gadsden flag, including the Southern Poverty Law Center.

From Fox News:

Throughout the NPR piece, though, Neuman quoted critics such as Rachel Carroll Rivas, deputy director of research and analysis for the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center, who attacked the image.

“She says it’s become clear that the flag has been used for some ‘really awful’ causes, most notably the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, where violent protesters attacked police as part of an effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election,” Neuman wrote.

NPR’s tweet promoting the article read, “Gov. Ron DeSantis said a new Florida license plate featuring the Revolutionary War-era Gadsden flag sends a ‘clear message to out-of-state cars.’ Critics say it symbolizes a dangerous far-right extremist ideology.”

Despite this, Neuman admitted in his article that both the flag and the motto are considered protected speech under the First Amendment, regardless of who uses them.

He wrote, “Extreme or not, First Amendment scholars such as Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law say the Gadsden flag and the ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ motto are legitimate — and protected — speech, whether they are on a flag waving inside the besieged U.S. Capitol or on a vehicle license plate heading down a Florida highway.”

The report also found that multiple states have approved of political messages on license plates, including the Gadsden flag. Neuman spotlighted how Kansas approved of the Gadsden flag on its state license plates just weeks after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. However, Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly, a Democrat, vetoed the design before the Republican legislature overruled her.

“I don’t think it’s appropriate,” Kansas Senate minority leader Dinah Sykes said. “When I see that, whether it’s a flag or a license plate … it’s not a good feeling for me.”

The rest of the story could be read on Fox News.

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Jason

In Alabama, the Gadsden Flag is an option for our license plates.

5JC

So this whole thing was started over Floridians being jealous of those visiting from Alabama? Why I am not surprised?

poetrooper

Especially those Floridians living in that northwest panhandle area fondly referred to as “LA” for Lower Alabama… 😉 

timactual

I have always thought of northeast Florida as “lower Georgia”.

7711C20

It is the Navy’s fault.

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Roh-Dog

Always is/was.

GABN

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AW1Ed

Hate you.

HT3

It’s part of The US Navy NWU III uniform, but whatever NPR douchebags. If I wanted any of their shit, I’d squeeze their heads.

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AW1Ed

Gadsden’s flag was the first Navy Jack, adopted on 14 June 1777.

Their ignorance is showing.

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Carlton

Scott is just another fag trying to create controversy. May the AIDS claim him soon.

Hack Stone

Come on, man. Get with the times. AIDS is so 1980’s, it’s either Monkeypox or nothing at all.

Sapper3307

Donkey -POX

26Limabeans

Aw shit. Now I have to go out and purchase one for display.
Maybe two. What the hell, Christmas is almost here. Make it
half a dozen.

Blaster

Me too🤣🤣🤣🤣

Roh-Dog

Federalist No.51 intensifies…

I’ve never owned one of these Banners of Extremism but given The Whoms’ feathers ruffled…, over a history to remedy a government composed void of Liberty?

NPR should be razed to the ground, bricks smashed to dust and fields salted with their tears.

(full disclosure: I was a ‘sustaining member’/contributor 2007ish-2016 because of the blatant turn from pseudo-journalism to outright propaganda.)

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26Limabeans

Had a good friend since the 70’s but over the years he drank
too much Cool Aid and could be seen wearing headphones
tuned into NPR all day long. The last couple years wearing
a mask everywhere. Even while driving alone.
Saw him the other day mowing his lawn while sporting the
headphones and the mask. Sad.

A Proud Infidel®™

Wearing a mask while driving alone is akin to a male wearing a condom to bed when sleeping alone.

timactual

Saw somebody the other day jogging with a mask on. I thought about telling him that it would restrict the flow of oxygen too his brain, then I realized it was too late.

5JC

I wear a mask and headphone when mowing my yard. Trying to protect what is left of my hearing and avoid an allergic reaction.

SFC D

NPR should stick to selling Schweddy balls.

Only Army Mom

Dangnabit! Issue a spew alert next time!

SFC D

Sorry Mom! I’ll put myself in timeout.

AW1Ed

You got out?

SFC D

For about 30 seconds, yes.

Dennis - not chevy

I stopped listening to NPR years ago when one of their talking heads, reporting from some unpleasant place said, “The insurgents are firing their semi-automatic AK-47’s”

Tallywhagger

Anyone who knows anything about that part of Alabama will tell you that snakes are ever present and a caution is advised.

It would be amusing to take the sissy from NPR out “snake dancing”

God bless Alabama!

KoB

They must be running out of Saint Andrews Crosses and War Memorials to cry about. Remember when I said it wouldn’t stop with “All Things Confederate”? I remember I was having an All American Bacon with cheese Hamburger on a Pepperidge Farms Bun that day.

mofos don’t realize that it was the attitude behind the Gadsden Flag that gave them the ability to freely whine their blather.

no steppy on snek.  🇸🇴 

Mason

The Millennial version;

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Roh-Dog

Speaking of ‘dangerous…extremism’,
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/national-international/author-salman-rushdie-attacked-on-stage-during-lecture-in-new-york/2851455/
I’m gonna tune in to NationalsozialistischePulictziRadiokomen to hear their glee.

I may not agree wholeheartedly with the man but he gets the right to speak, and the right to not be stabbed.
Radical notion?
Yep….

Sapper3307

Amish Milita, NY DIV?

Roh-Dog

Or the other usual suspect group, Mennonite.

Fucking German irregular verbs, should’ve been ‘ Radiodukommst’, ‘you come’.
I’m sure there’s a command version of ‘come’ but mindescäping.

Anonymous

Not extremist when religion of mostly peace radicals do it.

5JC

The founders of the Constitution clearly did not foresee that there could be religious conflicts in the future. All of that had been worked out back then. Therefore people shouldn’t be allowed to talk what could be perceived as offensive about someone else’s religion in the 21st Century.

This antiquated right of free speech has been curtailed by the courts many times and no reasonable person needs to be allowed to insult someone else’s religion.

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Sapper3307

Perhaps?

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Sam

I went over to look at Flags Famous in American History to check out some of these radical flags. I wonder if the Eutaw Standard would be radical? It’s solid red.

From “Flags of the World” (1917), p. 339″
https://archive.org/details/cu31924029797341/page/n66/mode/1up

5JC

Damn left wing rainbow terrorists always up to no good like fighting hate after a certain night club was shot up.

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rgr1480

Change the snake to a phallus and the motto “Don’t Chomp on Me”.

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

MIND BLEACH! STAT!

Av8or33

Any traditional American symbols are symbols of hate when you hate America and want to “fundamentally change it”. Make no mistake these leftists hate us and want to destroy you everything you hold dear, this is still only the beginning. Get out and vote make sure your friends and family vote. Vote even if you don’t think it matters, participation is the only way to fix things. The alternative is horrible.

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

“…. it’s not a good feeling for me.”

That’s the problem with LibTards, it’s all about the “feewings”, and ONLY about the “feewings”.

(I need to try and get one of those Florida Gadsden flag plates to attach to the back of my car)

It’s not about feelings, it’s a play on emotions too sell their ideology. It’s using weak minds and victim hood to split and destroy us. It’s a cold calculated methodology to “ fundamentally change America “. Make no mistake, they are playing a serious game and we are not even on the field.

Roh-Dog

It COULD be feelings tho. Weapons are distinct to the type of Warfare.

Quite Frankly “Evil’s Next Move: Ponerology Revisited” (timestamped)

poetrooper

Thanks for that link, Dog. The concept of ponerology certainly explains a lot about the current liberal madness and trend toward totalitarianism.

Roh-Dog

Very welcome, Dearest poe. One may say ‘I please to aim’ [you have your ears on Ed? 😉 ]

Our current predicament is not lost. The situation I fear most is the mushy center actualizing into a vengeful mob, teetering the civic landscape into hellscape.

poetrooper

The good news, Dog, is that those who study Mass Formation point out that the concept itself is ultimately self-destructive because it is based in unreality and fueled by mass psychosis.

Of course, as history has shown in Germany and Russia, it can do a great deal of harm to those unafflicted, while in the process of destroying itself.

Let us hope that won’t be the case in America.

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Roh-Dog

Let us hope that won’t be the case in America

My promise to you and all my Brothers and Sisters United, not while I have; air, parchment, ballot, and ammo; no shortn’d expenses paid by this man.

THIS WE’LL DEFEND

AW1Ed

Seriously? Kid Squid knows all.

rgr769

Thanks for that link. Ponerology explains so much of the past forty years of our politics. We are currently living in a pathocracy. Anyway, with regard to the current regime San it’s deep state.

rgr769

How does a cellphone turn and into San?

jeff LPH 3 63-66

I can imagine all those above Assholes complaining about the flag back in the 1700’s getting tarred and feathered or ending up on Tom Dooleys old oak tree.

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Forgot to add this in after seeing southern poverty law center involved. http://www.foxbusiness.com › money › chick-fil-aChick-fil-A distances itself from Southern Poverty Law Center …Dec 04, 2019 · Chick-fil-A pushed back after multiple conservative outlets criticized the fast-food chain for a 2017 donation of $2,500 to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

I stopped eating their after I heard about it and don’t know if I’ll go back

Av8or33

Southern poverty law center was at one time a long time ago relevant and was fighting injustice. Sadly those days are gone and any left over credibility and good will is just being used to bolster leftist opinions. ACLU has gone the same way, at one time they aggressively defended constitutional rights but now have become a shill for the communist left. I find too many of our institutions have been following that path. Everyone needs to vote, get people motivated even in states that are solid blue, get everyone you know out. The stakes are too important.

poetrooper

Morris Dees, the idealistic Montgomery lawyer who founded the SPLC got corrupted by the big bucks and the fame of being a big-lib darling. But he wasn’t lib enough, so the rich liberal backers kicked his ass out of his own organization and turned it over to a bunch of hard lefties.

It has been a compliant and useful tool of the Democrats ever since. They are using it to brand conservative organizations as terrorists so that they can criminalize them and their members.

Av8or33

I never had a problem with liberals, this new breed of progressive is not liberal, they are straight up communists. The Democratic Party no longer exists and liberals are an extinct species. Times have changed and we are in a fight for the soul of our country. Idiots like Lars who’s outsized sense of entitlement and self importance coupled with a superiority complex are prime targets for the leftist movement. They feel like they have been victimized by society and capitalism doesn’t value useless degrees and pseudo academic snobbery. They try to appeal to the other supposedly left behinds. At the core of all these people is jealousy, and a need to tell others what they should and eventually can do.

poetrooper

“Idiots like Lars who’s outsized sense of entitlement and self importance coupled with a superiority complex are prime targets for the leftist movement.”

As ol’ Poe pointed out recently, those are also traits common to psychopathy, lending further support to the growing claim that it is in fact Mass Formation driving this current craziness:

Mattias Desmet – Wikitia

Check out Desmet and other proponents and researchers.

H/T to Roh Dog for pointing Poe to it… 👍 

Av8or33

Interesting, basically herd mentality. I’ve never met the man but have met a few like him, a giant ego and insecurity at the same time, a sense that he is not appreciated in spite of his “superior intellect “ and a need to correct all the inferior peons that inexplicably have better and more fulfilling lives than he does. Jealousy of the success, and happiness of people they feel below them drives these unhappy souls to feel the need to control other peoples lives. Take a look at narcissistic personalities like Shumer, Shiff, Pelosi etc, why the need to punish the scum that dare not agree and tow the line? I’ve never understood the malignant narcissist, but then again I am happy with who I am and what I’ve accomplished, I’m not jealous of others success and happiness, on the contrary I want people to be happy and have the freedom to make good decisions and take risks that make life worth living. Lars and his ilk despise that and are perpetually unhappy. It’s actually sad.

rgr769

The ACLU was founded by Communist lawyers and was dedicated to defending Communists charged with crimes. Roger Baldwin, it’s founder, used to tell his attorneys, “remember, Communism is our goal.”

26Limabeans

Never could understand all those signal flags on fancy sailboat
mast guy wires. Reminds me of the corner gas station having
a sale on tires.

AW1Ed

Allow me.

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AW1 Rod

These stupid fucks don’t know ANYTHING about the Gadsden Flag or its history.

Roh-Dog

Or that there are spicier:

And where the body of the people, or any single man, is deprived of their right, or is under the exercise of a power without right, and have no appeal on earth, then they have a liberty to appeal to heaven, whenever they judge the cause of sufficient moment. And therefore, though the people cannot be judge, so as to have, by the constitution of that society, any superior power, to determine and give effective sentence in the case; yet they have, by a law antecedent and paramount to all positive laws of men, reserved that ultimate determination to themselves which belongs to all mankind, where there lies no appeal on earth, viz. to judge, whether they have just cause to make their appeal to heaven. — Locke, Two Treatises of Government (via Wiki)

My appeal has been laid before The Highest Magistrate.

(Those poor horses, everyone else? Not a pip.)

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Av8or33

And they don’t care, it’s about tearing down traditional American values, heritage, traditions and symbols. Quite simply put they hate us.

Commissar

It is.

Because right wing extremist morons starting using it as a symbol.

“Mom they are treading on me again!!!!”

Symbols come to mean different things over time.

The swastika went from religious symbol to symbol of a genocidal reich.

Pepe the Frog went from innocuous cartoon to nihilistic supremacist symbol of chaos and disruption.

And the Gadsden flag went from “freedom” to fascism over the period of 12 years.

Roh-Dog

Nice. Now do the hammer and sickle!

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Commissar

It has always represented communism.

Which is why it was not relevant to the discussion of how a symbol’s meaning can change over time.

Roh-Dog

oh, ok.
I get it:
-‘green cartoon frogs’ and ‘yellow flags’ = bad
-symbol under which 100s of millions were unlifed by ‘people who knew better’ = meh

I’m glad we could get that straight.

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Commissar

I thought you were Christian?

I didn’t put you as someone that participated in the symbology of a god of chaos.

Roh-Dog

Worship a frog? Naw man.

Got anything else? If not, God bless you and have yourself a wonderful weekend.

Sapper3307

HERASY!

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Roh-Dog

Salgud fren, I have a heresy-pass form President Big Man Tyrone.

Av8or33

You keep saying fascist, and authoritarian, I’m not sure you understand the meaning otherwise you might look in the mirror and reflect on your leftist friends ideology.

Commissar

The fact that you think fascism is “leftist” makes it clear you know fuck all about the subject.

It is the quintessential right wing ideology.

Not all authoritarianism is fascism. But fascist rhetoric is easy to recognize if you are not a fucking moron. Most far right idiots like what they hear when they hear fascist rhetoric. They are just too stupid to realize it is fascism.

Partly because some low information idiots think fascism is “leftist”.

Fascism is literally among the most studied and historically documented political ideologies in history.

It is right wing and every single fascist party in history has been a right wing party.

Sapper3307

So Pepe is evil?

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Av8or33

Hey asshole, the lefts goal is every bit as repressive as the worst right wing ideology ever. Stop being stupid and open your eyes. Socialism and its big brother communism are the most repressive systems in history and only appeal to people that can’t compete. You can’t steal and redistribute what is mine with out force and coercion. So stop with the stupid I’m smart listen to me bullshit. The left has become as bad as anything the right has ever done.

Av8or33

By the way I understand the origin on fasciscta. Political science also.

Av8or33

Basically a useless degree without law school or journalism or a business concentration. That’s why you’re an angry broke sick.

Av8or33

Broke Dick, all thumbs today.

poetrooper

Here you go again, Lars:

The fact that you think fascism is “leftist” makes it clear you know fuck all about the subject.”

The fact that Nazis self-identified as the National Socialist German Workers‘ Party just might lead someone of even modest intellect to believe that they just possibly had a better idea of what they were than you, ya think maybe, genius?

Nazi Party – Wikipedia

And that’s from a reliably left-wing site like Wikipedia. Even they don’t deny the hard reality that you can’t seem to grasp.

Open the dictionary to Useful Idiot and there’s your hopeless mug, Lars… 🙄 

Roh-Dog

The bourbon says:

What do we expect from a devout moral relativist with a personality disorder and a deep seated hatred for his own masculinity?

I happen to agree with the liquor on this one. He’s usually right…. until the morning.

Anonymous

Totalitarianism is the same.

Anonymous

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poetrooper

Lars must be back on the trolling payroll from the way he’s been showing up here every day lately, definitely back to his old vicious and vitriolic methods… 💩 

What a loser way to earn extra dope money… 💩 

But that’s our Larsie boy… 💩 

Av8or33

It’s a job, sort of.

Commissar

Yeah, I need to take another vacation.

I am going to get an aneurysm reading some of these comments.

Av8or33

Maybe read them with an open mind. As I’ve said you seem to support some very repressive ideas, maybe it’s time to realize it’s not all about you being right. Re-examine some of the ideas you support and ask yourself are these ideas actually fascist and authoritarian, can they be implemented without coercion and repression, am I supporting what I claim to disdain?

poetrooper

“Maybe read them with an open mind.”

Lars???? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!

You might as well ask him to donate to the Trump campaign.

Keep it real, Av8or33… 😜 

Av8or33

He’s a narcissist and incapable of happiness. It’s actually sad. I think he has serious issues and may actually be mentally ill.

poetrooper

Well, considering that you’re about 90% asshole, it will most likely be a rectal artery aneurysm… 🙄 

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Anonymous

When?

SFC D

From your mouth to God’s ears.

Sapper3307

Never speak il of PePe!
He will return to the worthy.

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Mason

Will you fill it?

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SFC D

You do love some fascism. How’re your antifa buddies doing?

poetrooper

“Mom they are treading on me again!!!!”

Once again, in your sneering, superior dismissal, you completely miss the point. It’s not a complaint, moron, it’s a fucking warning and a deadly serious one at that.

Don’t you ever tire of demonstrating to all here what an utter fool you are?

Roh-Dog

I mean, zerself did say:

Pepe the Frog went from innocuous cartoon to nihilistic supremacist symbol of chaos and disruption.

If we just care to read this (and boy do I have enough bourbon in my system to) zhe suggests that a ‘cartoon frog’ can function as a method for some kind of ‘nihilist supremacists‘ to spread ‘chaos’ ‘disruptively’.

I mean, even tho the bold items probably contradicks each other, the commie might not be familiar with The Big Lebowski and how easy it is to defeat nihilists: a bowling ball.

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QMC

Serious question. Have you read 1984? If you have, maybe it’s time to reread it again.

Sapper3307

Animal Farm perhaps?

Only Army Mom

What is wrong with you people! Someone none of us ever met or heard of said, “Its not a good feeling for me”. That’s all we need to know! It must be banned and those who don’t change everything, everywhere and for everyone immediately are intolerant, anti-Democratic and un-American!

A Proud Infidel®™

What has NPR ever been other than shit that wouldn’t make it on privately owned radio stations?

JustALurkinAround

“Neuman references others who had issues with the Gadsden flag, including the Southern Poverty Law Center.”

Say no more. I now understand why my beliefs were in err.

ninja

We proudly proclaim that a member of the ninja family has a Vanity “Don’t Trend On Me” DMV issued car tag on a vehicle that is shortened to read “Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness”…

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ninja

BTW: The DMV issued car tag does not look like that.

We just were trying to make a point…”We The People..”

Odie

I would so put that on the front plate area of my car, but Illinois says you paid for 2 plates so you must display 2 plates.

However, a gadsden flag sticker would fit nicely on my back window. A pre warning that a terrorist drives this vehicle.

NDHoosier

Does anyone with a brain and any integrity give a shit what National Proletariat Radio thinks? NPR serves one purpose: to be an echo chamber of leftist propaganda.

ninja

Folks:

Speaking of DMV issued car tags:

You can’t make this stuff up…

Did the Delaware DMV knew ahead of time?

😆😅🤣😂😆😅🤣😂

https://www.dmv.de.gov/VehicleServices/registration/index.shtml?
dc=ve_reg_sp_tags

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poetrooper

Well, since Lars is so indignant regarding the Gadsden Flag, may I suggest an alternative more representative of his Left Coast culture and its justly deserved declining environment.

Rather than a coiled reptile, their progressive banner should have a coiled pile of human excrement, like this  💩 , with the warning:

“Don’t Step in Me”

That seems such a very appropriate banner for America’s crazy leftists… 😝 

rgr769

Superb idea. And it will be so apropos on cars in San Fransicko or L.A., where there are more homeless hovels on the sidewalk than pedestrians.

timactual

“When I see that, whether it’s a flag or a license plate … it’s not a good feeling for me.”

That’s what the British thought, too.

poetrooper

Especially when they saw it on license plates… 😝 

Herbert J Messkit

Where do I go to report myself?