Nazi goodies and weapons found in raid
Law enforcement conducting raids on houses belonging to two vets accused of a violent break-in at Joint Base Lewis-McChord (JBLM) in Washington state found Nazi equipment and weapons.
Derek Sanders, the elected sheriff of Thurston County, said in a Facebook post that the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division asked his office for assistance Monday as an FBI special weapons and tactics team executed a search warrant in Lacey, near the state capitol of Olympia, “as a result of a violent robbery and theft of military weaponry/armor.”AP News
The pic above is not terribly impressive – a bolt action WWII era rifle (no idea what that thing is), a disassembled AR-15, possibly a short-barreled rifle – but the main item of interest is an MG-42, a very nasty piece of ordnance – an 8mm machine gun with a very high rate of fire.
State and federal police arrested Charles Ethan Fields and Levi Austin Frakes after executing a warrant Monday for alleged assault, robbery and theft of government property, according to the complaint shared with Military.com by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Western District of Washington.
Prosecutors say Fields and Frakes entered Joint Base Lewis-McChord on Sunday evening through the main gate and made their way to a facility used by Charlie Company, 75th Ranger Regiment. Dressed in Ranger fitness training attire and wearing masks, the pair allegedly stole military gear after bludgeoning a soldier with a hammer and fleeing the scene.
As the soldier was questioning the pair, ordering them to remove their masks, one of them attacked him, striking him in the head and torso with a hammer. The soldier fought off the attacker, taking the hammer, but “surrendered” as the other assailant was brandishing a knife, according to court records.
The pair allegedly stole $14,000 worth of gear, but dropped much of it at the scene when fleeing. Law enforcement discovered blood on their rucksacks and boots, according to the complaint.
The Army Criminal Investigation Division requested a search warrant after discovering the rucksacks filled with the equipment that they left behind, as well as the hat that bore Fields’ last name. During the search of one of the homes, the CID seized 35 weapons, including rifles, pistols, short-barreled rifles, an MG32 machine gun and suppressors — some of which appeared to have been produced using a 3D printer — along with night vision equipment, body armor, flashbang grenades, smoke canisters and blasting caps.
Yeah, leaving your ID-tagged cap…not sure we are dealing with the brightest candles on the menorah.
Notably, the two claim they had been stealing from JBLM and reselling equipment for two years.
The Military.com article is a bit hysterically written (as the following paragraph shows) but is interesting. H/t to Jeff LPH on this one.
The Pentagon has entirely abandoned addressing far-right extremism in the military community under the Trump administration. While there is no evidence service members or veterans are more likely to be radicalized, experts have said they are force multipliers to extremist organizations given their inherent credibility and tactical knowledge. Military.com
From the author’s bio: “He has an extensive background in covering senior military leadership conduct, the Pentagon’s recruiting struggles and extremist organizations.” one suspects he is proving the adage that when all one has is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
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Looks to be a Carcano. I have an M38 similar to the one allegedly used by Oswald. The MG42 is likely a demilled prop gun, but if it’s functional, that’s a big no-no. I doubt they got the tax stamp to legally own it, if it’s transferable on the first place.
Nice new flags. Nothing screams neo-Nazi like some Chinese-made flags with the creases still in them. I mean, it’s been 80 years. I don’t think Nazism is going to make a comeback, and I definitely don’t think that adopting it’s symbology is going to win allies.
I did dig out some of my “Nazi” stuff last weekend. I used to reenact as a Waffen-SS Soldat, first portraying 12th SS and then 1st SS, as most of our unit decided they were getting too old to continue playing Hitlerjugend. I’ll probably look into selling it eventually. I don’t see me running around in the woods anymore, wearing a wool uniform and shooting blanks.
“Nice new flags. Nothing screams neo-Nazi like some Chinese-made flags with the creases still in them.” Other blog sites have made note of the same thing. Even been mentioned that every time the feebees make a raid on knotzies, the flags appear to have just been taken out of the package. Every.Single.Time! Odd, that, huh.
Some real brainiacs these doods, taking a hammer and a knife to a place that is crawling with soldiers and assorted weapons, and leaving personally marked equipment in their wake. Teh Stoopid is strong with them.
Curious timing that these 2 just happened to purchase those two particular flags right before they got busted. A long time ago in galaxy far, far away before The DC Swamp flushed the Bureau’s credibility down the drain to frame Trump with phony FISA warrants, plotting to kidnap a sitting Governor, and orchestrating a riot at the Capitol I would have believed the AN/WS they are selling. Today? No chance. A couple fresh out the bag flags tell me the opposite. The weapons were NOT taken from Ft. Lewis. No way a MG-42 and some old-ass bolt action rifle were at the armory. Just a couple of dick heads that got on someone’s radar after suffering from cranial rectum inversion. They probably talked too much bullshit, and the wrong people hear overheard.
Those cheap flags made in third world shit holes can hang for a year and still look like they were just taken out of the package….ask me how I know…
When I was coaching we would make a big deal about brackets for the world cup so I bought some flags for various nations’ World Cup soccer teams and they still look like shit…one of them has been hanging in my basement for about fifteen years and still has wrinkles…now I look for manufacturers in the nation I’m trying to get the flags for to find a better quality product…
Not saying that’s the case for these guys, but the wrinkles still being there aren’t evidence of much beyond cheap ass flags for me.
These asshats were probably stealing TA-50 and other assorted, easily sold field gear.
I’m gonna go ahead and say you are wrong. When my last unit returned from Iraq the battalion brought all kinds of goodies home including a Drugnov, several WWII era rifles and a few other goodies. I have no idea what their plan was and am willing to bet they are still in the arms room.
Be that as it is, they didn’t HAVE to steal everything they obtained from the Army. Could have come from anywhere.
When I was a member of the Freeport Long Island NY gun club/Freeport Police range, one of the FFL members brought in a German MG-41 which was the earlier version of the 42 to show us. He was one of the few from NY whom had that class license to own those fully auto jobs. anyone know if they still have those full auto shoots down here in Florida with guys owning Full autos from WW1 to the present. ?????
When I was on the NG shooting team (admittedly 20+ years ago) there was most of an StG44 in the arms room…. so nothing is impossible. Guys would often bring their newest toys in to take to the range. I’m guessing it was a good way to hide the newest acquisition from the wife….
ATF will modify the prop gun to fire one time, then charge them with possession of a fully automatic weapon. They’ve done it before.
I thought as much, but that big rivet looking thing at the front of the magazine is not on Carcanos.The back of the bolt is wrong, too. Not any Mauser, Springfield, Enfield, or even Arisaka I have seen – like I said, I don’t recognize it at all.
Spain and a number of South American countries experimented with different extended magazine designs. There have also been many since then that have monkeyed with the design a bit. It seems to me a bit like a few odd parts thrown together.
I’m pretty sure it’s an M95 Dutch Mannlicher in 6.5x53R
Or a Austrian/Hungarian Mannlicher M95 or M95/30.
Mike
USAF Retired
I think you are correct. On closer inspection, it appears to be a straight pull.
As others have said, it’s likely a Mannlicher. The Carcano used Mannlicher-style en bloc clips, and I didn’t look too closely as I was about to walk into work.
I had a chance to buy an unconverted M1886 in the original 11x58R chambering. Bass Pro bought it as part of the same collection my 125+ year-old M1892 and M1897 Winchesters came from (and the early manufacture Inland M1 Carbine).
I have a couple of Civil War reenactor pards who also do WWII reenactments. Both do Wehrmacht impressions. One also does the Red Army and sports a blank-firing PPSH submachine gun.
Speaking of HJ……one of my favourite artifacts. Made in 1936 so quality it tops. Even has the soon to be deleted moto.
Scabbard and leather are in good condition too.
That will only increase in value. I grab the old German stuff too, when I come across it. I do have some WWII Japanese stuff as well. Also, some N Vietnamese and VC stuff.
My man cave is a military museum!
I bet you have a pretty sweet collection.
The ‘ bad guy ‘ stuff always commands a higher price. Just cooler too IMHO
I was told that this is a senior NCO’s dress sword.
I would post a picture of some of my stuff, but can’t figure out how to do it. I hit the tab, but it says that it’s too big
Fields and Frack/ Frick and Frack phuqed up.
Their combined brain power all but guarantees at least one of them makes it to the Darwin Awards ceremony.
What the Feebs show in the pics vs what those objects actually are vs what the “miscreants” actually owned…..three different things. Color me skeptical and cynical.
No worries, here are more pictures of the wannabenazis stash. A few more rifles and some 3d printed suppressors as well as some ordinance launchers.
https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/guns-seized-white-nationalist-extremists
Nice pics, some pretty items, still doesn’t prove that they belonged to the arrested ones.
Remember when the FiBbIes had all those pics of “TS Secured document folders” from Mar-A-Lago? All fake & planted, every one.
(ps – what is that “blob” hanging off the back of the slide of the pistol in the second pic?)
Except it wasn’t the FBI it was the county sheriff’s office.
KelTec P17 .22… hard to believe, but they actually built it that way. KelTec’s reputation for fugly is well-earned.
What? No tater masher grenages? You can’t have a proper neo-Nayzi melitia without tater masher grenages!
Good Not Zees always iron their Flags, Iron Cross anyone?
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IllinoisWashington nazis.What is the starting bid on lot#4?
Meh on the Nazi stuff. Many years ago, I portrayed Hermann Goering at a small WWII re-enactment, and was allowed to keep the insignia (the uniform had been rented and had to be given back). I still have the stuff, in a shadowbox. Anyone who sees it asks about it, I tell ’em, and that’s that. I also have the stuff from when I portrayed Gen. MacArthur a few years later.
Years ago, I went up to the West Point Acadamm y for a 2 day class on flammable liquid fires and after the class, we went to their museam and through one glass case, I saw Hermann’s army tunic on the dummy which looked as big as a pup tent. The dummy was also holding his gilted baton. Another glass case had a small scene of the Op Power Pack Dominican crisis from 1965 where our ship was involved.
Goering was also a morphine junkie. The baton of course, was gilded with gold and silver stolen from those sent to Concentration Camps.
I always laugh at the number of guns they show in these stories. I’d hate to see what the news would say about me currently having 59 firearms……Oh the horror!
Mind you none are full auto, too damn poor to afford them type of toys.
Mike
USAF Retired
Yeah, any country boy pretty much has a number of items that send the libtard-“reporters” into vapors.
That’s just Bubba, who’s burned all his other ammo up at the range the day before.
I forget how many guns I had before the tragic boating accident…
Which works out to be a whole ten boxes of pistol ammo. He’ll, one needs about 300 rounds for a two day cowboy action match.
“Dressed in Ranger fitness training attire”
Really?
Hoo-ah Mr. and Ms. Ranger. It’s PT time! Go into your wardrobe and don your fitness training ensemble, tout suite!
We wouldn’t want to get those chic camo uniforms all sweaty now, would we?