USS The Sullivans sinking, severely listing
This is a bit of breaking news. A little over a year ago we talked about USS The Sullivans (named for the five Sullivan brothers who all died when the ship they were serving together on, USS Juneau, was torpedoed and sunk during the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal in 1942) was at risk for flooding and sinking. Apparently their efforts weren’t enough. Local Buffalo news is reporting on The Sullivans severely listing.
Here’s the video from the local news. They don’t allow embedding the video, so I’ll just include the link.
Here’s our discussion on her from last year.
Category: Breaking News, Historical
Sad this ship is meeting the same demise as those it was named for. Well, minus the torpedo.
How long has the navy been doing deferred maintenance.
The torpedo is progressive politics. It’s much more explosive than any conventional weapon. It’s the endurance version of the Night of the Long Knives.
Upstate NY politics are the nuclear equivalent of the bombing of Dresden. NYC is Little Boy, Chicago is Fat Man… Buffalo is just a bunch of random shit to justify worse shit. California is Godzilla vs Mothra, refereed by Beetlejuice.
Postmodern surrealist folklore meets historic atrocity via naturally-augmented reality. The worst aspect, in some eyes, is that we’ll survive and recover. Sadly, USS The Sullivans probably will not.
It’ll be deck level with the Croaker (SSK-246) soon…
I was surprised that the Sullivans rule minimizing proximity of siblings on ships or combat areas is not codified into regulation – thought it had been years ago.
I’m sure you guys feel the same.
That photo makes me sad. Kinda really disappointed in our government and the folks responsible for this.
Maybe they need to crane it up on dry land and build a dry dock and display around it. That would alleviate the issues of it sinking ever again…(unless you consider climate change… *runs* 😒 😝 )
Fox News just reported that the Ukrainians sank Moskva, the cruiser that was flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
Confirmed by Russia
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-military-damaged-moskva-missile-cruiser-sank-towed-84088459
Good!
The Woke Crowd is probably applauding because it was named after White Men, so it is inherently racist.
I think we’re going to see this more and more in the coming years. A ship isn’t like a building that can be maintained with just a little bit of effort (spelled MONEY.) A ship in water – especially salt water – is going to require gradually more expensive maintenance. At some point, I think, hard decisions are going to have to be made. Either spend the money to bring the vessel onto dry land, or scrap it. The WWII and post WWII fleets that make up the majority of our “museum ships” were never build to last 70+ years.
When I studied historic preservation in college, one of the things they said over and over was: Preserving history is good, but ultimately it has to be ECONOMICALLY viable if it is to sustain itself. All the good will and “feelings” in the world aren’t enough to preserve an old relic if the money isn’t there.
And I often wonder, for example, how many Iowa-class battleships can be economically sustained? Because AFAIK all 4 Iowa-class vessels are museums.
I’m not arguing with you, but the Niagara isn’t salt water. The Buffalo Naval Park and municipal leadership should have had little difficulty maintaining (or at least recognizing and adjusting to the damage on) the vessel.
I suspect the USS Texas is high on this list.
Good thing the newer version, DDG-68 (built right after the Cole) is fine in Mayport. I am staring at it right now.
SOS
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OK, I’m all Go Army and such, but….
Go Navy, Beat The Damned Bureaucrats!
Damn shame. Had a whole year to fix a very fixable problem…and DIDN’T.
Maybe we should put all of the Noo Yawk politicians on Her. Let them go down just as their Ship of State is doing.
Meanwhile, some guy is walking around the location where this boat is kept swinging a chain with a plug attached asking if this is important.
I visited the Buffalo Naval Park last year wth my son, a Cadet at SUNY-MARITIME and military history major. We were able to get a “curator’s” tour of the ship. There were a ton of WWII artifacts stored below decks off the normal tour routes, much of it donated by Sailor’s families. It’s heartbreaking how much may have been destroyed.
My alma mater.
Great school.
Sympathetic leaks?
so sad that governor of ny will dole out millions(tax payers)to build a new stadium for the bills,but will not do a fucking thing to rectify this issue