President Trump’s Second Term With New Administration

| January 10, 2021

In President Trump’s speech, on the 6th, he stated that although he disagreed with the results of certification of the electoral votes, there will be a peaceful transition of power to a new administration. On Twitter, he praised his “first term”, and stated that the fight is just beginning and that we will make America great. Just paraphrasing here, as his account is not available as of this posting. He also stated that conservatives will no longer be held back from their right to free speech.

President Trump chooses his words carefully. But, if he’s about to be out of office, and the Democrats have control of the voting outcomes, and if he only has a few days left, how could he accomplish this? Then we have Nancy Pelosi “acting hysterical” wanting President Trump gone… Not on the 20th, but ASAP! The 25th Amendment, the Military slowing things down, impeachment…

Why go through the trouble when President Trump has less than two weeks in office? Why not wait things out? Perhaps because things may not be over yet?

From a Nye County, Nevada, Republican Central Committee website:

1. Expect the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public.

2. Expect confusion. We are in a battle for our republic against elites that are attempting the very coup that they are accusing Trump of doing. In battle, there will be disinformation but know that plans are being fulfilled.

3. Expect high profile arrests to take place over the next 12 days and at any time. You may wake one morning to find someone in high office is no longer there.

4. Expect this to be a bumpy ride to the very end. This is not a television show where things are resolved in 45 minutes.

5. Expect more bombshell evidence to be released between now and Jan. 20th.

6. Expect some sort of internet blackout or outage: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Gmail are likely going to be affected. If you don’t have alternate forms of communication established now, it would be a good idea to start forming them even if it’s just checking on your nextdoor neighbors.

7. Expect Trump to be inaugurated on Jan 20th!

8. Expect the executive order from 2018 and/or the Insurrection Act to be enacted. This DOES NOT mean martial law. Remember that we have been under a state of emergency since 2018 which gives the president many powers to act.

The entire post could be read on the Nye County Republican Central Committee website. I’ve came across this information over the past two months, different sources saying the same thing, but had placed it under the “QAnon files”. The main focus had been, and still is, the valid election fraud that occurred. Draw your own conclusion on whether this is urban legend, or if it is the real deal. “QAnon” did predict, weeks ago, that President Trump would have his social media accounts shut down.

President Trump did say, “Don’t bet against me.” Could he have just played his opponents? (thedonald.win)

Category: Internet, Pentagon, Politics, Trump!, Who knows

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  1. KoB says:

    The entire swamp is terrified that Donald J. Trump almost gave the Country back to its Citizens.

    There is a reason that History was the FIRST (ht 2 Sarge) Subject that they quit teaching all of in school.

    Locked and loaded, 3 days cooked rations packed, a 90 day supply backup of all consumables, on the high ground with clear fields of fire, and the lanyards are pull tight on well laid guns. I could use a few more troops on the North Wall.

    • Anonymous says:

      Exactly. Careerist uni-party folk don’t like their gig disrupted.

    • Steve 1371 says:

      I’am about as far North as you can get and not say “eh” and I am on guard here KOB. I will hold the line as best as I can.

      • KoB says:

        I feel better already about that flank. If need be, you can always trade a little real estate for time. We’ll have pickets out to escort you thru the safe lanes to inside the wire. Watch out for the Blue Ribbons, they’re boobies. Yuenglings are for the true believers.

        The biscuits are in the bacon!

        I say again:

        The biscuits are in the bacon!

  2. Sapper3307 says:

    Anybody seen Hunter recently? He owes me $50.

  3. LC says:

    This letter is insanity defined.

    “QAnon” did predict, weeks ago, that President Trump would have his social media accounts shut down.

    Yes, yes… let’s ignore all the failed things, like how JFK Jr was supposed to magically be alive and replace Trump on the ticket.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/qanon-jfk-jr-conspiracy-theory-854938/

    Me personally? I think the Q stuff was some internet trolling to see just how far people would go in believing increasingly ridiculous stuff. Alas, they underestimated the stupidity of lots of people.

    It’s worrisome that on a military-focused site, people are not laughing aloud at the notion that having a ‘Q’ clearance -a DOE designation- would somehow also translate into having access to SCI information across all sorts of government agencies.

    • Sapper3307 says:

      And that RBG was still alive three years ago.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      I don’t pay attention to that stuff, other than for occasional entertainment value. Why do you?

      Some folks follow astrology, too.

      • LC says:

        For starters, quite a few of the people involved in the Capitol riots were QAnon adherents. When I see a bunch of astrologists charge the Capitol, threatening elected officials, and resulting in the death of a Capitol police officer, let alone a variety of other injuries, I’d pay a lot more attention to them, too.

        And second, giving any credibility to QAnon’s nonsense here, by pointing out they ‘correct predicted’ the social media stuff, seems disingenuous at best. It’d be like finding a psychic who predicted Biden would win the election -not exactly something outside the realm of possibility- and then giving them an air of credibility, despite the countless things they got wrong.

        (Also, above, I meant replacing Pence on the ticket. Morning coffee hadn’t kicked in yet.)

        • 11B-Mailclerk says:

          Crazy people who believe Major League Baseball uses satellites to beam mind control signals at us, may technically be correct that MLB uses satellites to beam signals. (Like games, eh)

          Doesn’t mean I am going to pay much attention to their rantings.

          Bart Simpson was -so- funny on this one…. Go find it if you missed that episode. Totally funny. Not a scam. It’s one of my favorite Simpson’s for the sheer absurd humor.

          As to the current mess, you folks have been promising us, for so very long, an “authoritarian” Trump, a Trump “coup”, I think your rank n file forgot it was political bullshit as slander.

          So, apparently did your leadership and cheerleaders.

          Trump is no dictator. Else you would be in a camp somewhere. He is an -epic- Troll.

          -epic-

          And I strongly suspect, if this -isnt- just nutters nutting like autumn squirrel-poo, then it is Trump trying to goad your gullible folks into an epic own-goal for the ages.

          and he -is- the Bad Orange Trollmaster. Heh

          • LC says:

            And, once again, when the MLB fans who believe satellites are beaming mind control rays at them raid the Capitol and kill a police officer, threaten elected officials and injure a bunch of others… I’ll probably sit up and pay more attention to them, too.

            The issue isn’t that there are crazy people out there, it’s that there are crazy people actively plotting Violence, and successfully enacting those plans.

            And I’ve never claimed Trump was a dictator. My political ‘leadership’ is the same as the rest of the country’s. But if you still think this is part of some genius plan by Trump to ‘troll’ people -step one, kill a cop?- then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

            • 11B-Mailclerk says:

              I am talking about that silly post referenced above, dude.

              Take a breath. You are losing it, and you are supposed to be the rational opposition.

            • MI Ranger says:

              I think most of your arguments are wrong. Trump is a troll not a conspirator. As soon as he actually starts arresting the conspirators instead of hiring (and then firing) them will I believe otherwise.

              As for people dying at the capital (one Officer, One Protester, three heart attacks/respiratory collapse)…anyone ever see a plan not quite work as expected? Especially when it wasn’t rehearsed!

              Many of those things stated above, would definitely make me think I voted for the wrong guy. Arrests No, Public announcements No, Court Case No, Shutting down by court order FB, Twitter, Apple, Google, and Amazon (now that they all showed their hand by cutting off Parler) not really, Giving himself powers over the Courts and Congress…YES, Inaugurating himself on 20 Jan…I would have to say YES that makes me worried (sounds like Venezuela).

              If he had a Trump card up his sleeve (pun intended) he should have played it in November or December not waited until January 2021!

        • David says:

          Why do correct predictions surface so seldom BEFORE the fact? It’s always after…

        • thebesig says:

          LC: For starters, quite a few of the people involved in the Capitol riots were QAnon adherents.

          Following QAnon was not what drove them into the capitol. I’ve seen videos of Capitol police waving crowds into the Capitol, and even photos of people walking through, in an orderly fashion, through a corded off pathway, to the other side.

          There were also Antifa among the crowd. They were among those that turned this into a riot. There’s even a picture floating around of one of the guys, Antifia or BLM, who had previously talked about wanting to drag the President out.

          LC: When I see a bunch of astrologists charge the Capitol, threatening elected officials, and resulting in the death of a Capitol police officer, let alone a variety of other injuries, I’d pay a lot more attention to them, too.

          First, most of the people that entered the Capitol “did not charge”. They also did not threaten election officials. I’ve seen pictures of old people, and overweight people, just walking. How threatening could an old woman be? An overweight man?

          You do realize that being conservative doesn’t prevent people from also embracing astrology, do you? On my own Facebook comments, I’ve mentioned the sun’s actual location relative to the constellations effective the time of the post. Many people, both conservative and leftist, have insisted on the astrology definition.

          There’s an excellent chance that among those who charged the Capitol were people who believe in Astrology.

          LC: And second, giving any credibility to QAnon’s nonsense here, by pointing out they ‘correct predicted’ the social media stuff, seems disingenuous at best.

          What is disingenuous is your selectively quoting what I said, then implying my actions and arguments based on your cherry-picked quotes. Again, what I said:

          “I’ve came across this information over the past two months, different sources saying the same thing, but had placed it under the “QAnon files”. The main focus had been, and still is, the valid election fraud that occurred. Draw your own conclusion on whether this is urban legend, or if it is the real deal.” — thebesig

          Again, context is everything. This statement preceded the statement that you quoted above. This explains my true stance and hints at my intent… None of what you’re implying. The fact that you’d take me out of context, then accuse me of doing something disingenuous, speaks negatively about your character and integrity.

          LC: It’d be like finding a psychic who predicted Biden would win the election -not exactly something outside the realm of possibility- and then giving them an air of credibility, despite the countless things they got wrong.

          Incorrect analogy. There’s a difference between guessing at an outcome that has 50% probability of happening, and guessing an outcome that, at the time the outcome is guessed, most would not have thought been feasible.

          Who, among large groups of rational conservatives, would’ve seriously imagined, two months ago or even before, that the tech giants would move to shut down President Trump’s platforms? This was under the, “They’d want to do that but it would realistically not happen”. I’ve seen these arguments play out related to this topic.

          No, I was not attempting to give them an air of credibility. Read the part of my comment that came before my statement that you actually quoted. Reading comprehension would’ve told you that I was actually communicating that although I did not take them seriously, they should not be completely discounted.

          I used the similar string of words, sarcastically, when describing where liberals “get it right” in my Liberal Zombie post from roughly three years ago… Not completely discounting as in recognizing that a broken clock is right twice a day.

          LC: (Also, above, I meant replacing Pence on the ticket. Morning coffee hadn’t kicked in yet.)

          Reading comprehension, it’s a drug. No coffee needed.

    • Mason says:

      I agree. Just like 4Chan got the left and the media to think that the “OK” hand gesture is a white supremacy sign.

      Q is like Nostradamus and other soothsayers. When they’re right it’s proof they should be listened to. When they’re wrong, it’s proof that the world is mysterious and murky, but he’ll be right the next time!

    • thebesig says:

      Originally posted by LC:

      Yes, yes… let’s ignore all the failed things, like how JFK Jr was supposed to magically be alive and replace Trump on the ticket.

      Now, what I said before your cherry-picked quote, which is the center of gravity of everything that I said above:

      “I’ve came across this information over the past two months, different sources saying the same thing, but had placed it under the “QAnon files”. The main focus had been, and still is, the valid election fraud that occurred. Draw your own conclusion on whether this is urban legend, or if it is the real deal.” — thebesig

      If I came across this information over the past two months, why am I just posting it now? One reason is also stated in the statement that you deliberately left out… That my main focus was on the valid election fraud that occurred. The sentence that came after that is a disclaimer. Unlike my other posts, where I’ve addressed the events reported in the linked article, I’m leaving it up to the reader to decide whether to see any validity, or to dismiss it as urban legend.

      Originally posted by LC:

      Me personally? I think the Q stuff was some internet trolling to see just how far people would go in believing increasingly ridiculous stuff. Alas, they underestimated the stupidity of lots of people.

      Wrong. There are different topic areas that the conspiracy theorists follow. QAnon is just one group of conspiracy theorists. They actually believe in what they are arguing. I’ve argued against conspiracy theorists before, they’re not “trolling” people. Instead, they believe what they are arguing, and also believe that they should inform other people of what they know.

      As for your link, there is a lot of disinformation out there on QAnon, and on other groups who advocate narratives that are inconsistent with the mainstream narrative. For example, I have a Gab account, and post there. However, when I read mainstream information about Gab, I get a description that is completely contradictory to what I know is the case.

      Originally posted by LC:

      It’s worrisome that on a military-focused site, people are not laughing aloud at the notion that having a ‘Q’ clearance -a DOE designation- would somehow also translate into having access to SCI information across all sorts of government agencies.

      That’s largely because we take QAnon with a grain of salt. See statement that precedes the statement that you cherry-picked.

      I’ve argued against some Q claims about what the military has done over the past two months, and what they will do into the future. In one post, I called into question the credentials of a supposed retired Army Special Forces colonel. Then I argued against what he claimed would happen based on what I know of military operations.

      The thread starter that posted a screen cap of the “colonels” Parler post, or someone else, started a new thread while posting that same screen cap.

    • rgr769 says:

      Well, since you never served in the military, then don’t read this blog or post comments on it. Problem solved for you. Go back to HuffPo or DU where you will love everything you read there. And by the way, this is more than a “military-focused site” since most of us, except for you, are ex-military, but many haven’t been on active duty for decades.

  4. My, My, My says:

    Cryptic and interesting note, at the same time.

    “We have a message for the people in the occupied zone. The chair is against the wall; John has a long mustache.”

  5. Ex-PH2 says:

    against elites – Sorry, thebeisg, but they don’t meet the definition of “elite”.

    They are simply spoiled brats who think they should always win. I used to compete against them in horse shows and they’d get really pissed off when I won. Went screaming to Mommy ‘get me a better horse!’ like the brats they were.

    No real difference between this crowd of political whores and that bunch of spoiled brats.

  6. C2Show says:

    Besig, you need to cut down on Sunday morning bud seltzer and early times whiskey.

    We get you are in state of denial about things in this country, but come on.

    • thebesig says:

      C2Show: Besig, you need to cut down on Sunday morning bud seltzer and early times whiskey.

      First, I don’t drink alcoholic beverages.

      Second, tell that one brain celled activity of yours to quit trying to take you over and to start doing its job so that you don’t type as if a retarded ghost possesses you.

      Third, you appear to have a hard time getting over the fact that I posted things before that hurt your feelings, then subsequently destroyed you in debate when you got triggered… Hurting your feelings and triggering you some more. You’re like Blobfish, you have anger issues, control issues, and ego issues, and reading your posts here are like reading posts on Blobfish’s “evidence” blog.

      C2Show: We get you are in state of denial about things in this country, but come on.

      First, what I said above:

      “I’ve came across this information over the past two months, different sources saying the same thing, but had placed it under the “QAnon files”. The main focus had been, and still is, the valid election fraud that occurred. Draw your own conclusion on whether this is urban legend, or if it is the real deal.” — thebesig

      This isn’t me being “in a state of denial” about things in this country. The reality is that I’m fully aware about things in this country, what is occurring, and where we are heading… Realities that you are oblivious to. Even if I were to try to spell out for you what is going on, it’d seep through you like water through a colander.

      Second, there’s a reason to why I posted the transcript of a Prager University Video about what happened in Venezuela… As well as a call made by a socialist to a guest host on the Hannity radio show. This gives you a hint of what I see in our future, based on what has happened over the past year, and what I’m continuing to see… Hints of where I see our realities heading.

      Third, at least give a semblance of having read what you are responding to instead of proving to me that you’re responding only for the sake of retaliation.

      This is how you came across to me with your post:

      Cross eyed meme and C2Show

      • C2Show says:

        Pretty long message, pal.

        Cut down on the cheap liquor and take off the tinfoil.

        You using steve buscemi character is definitely a self reflection of your posting behaviour here.

        Take your asperger’s medication and calm down, buddy.

        The world is going to be alright with or without Trump as president. Just calm down, please!

        Boy, I can see it now. Little chubby besig smashing his keyboard with all those cheetos crumbs flying all over that nasty desk of yours.
        “How dare he mocks me! I will write a novel to get him!”

        Yeah, okay buddy. You got me! I am indeed Steve buscemi. Cue the corny meme, new obsession of yours, huh?

        • thebesig says:

          Response to C2Show Part 1A January 11, 2021

          C2Show: Pretty long message, pal.

          I’m going to present enough information to advance my argument. The more erroneous your argument, the more I’m going to say to prove you wrong.

          C2Show: Cut down on the cheap liquor

          What part of the following statement did you not understand?

          “First, I don’t drink alcoholic beverages.” -thebesig

          I gave you a fact about me. In Your response you continued with your erroneous assumption about what I do. This is basic reading comprehension.

          I know that even fifth-graders can understand what I say, as someone who was in fifth grade at the time responded to my Facebook post that was similar in nature to what I post here. That individual understood what I said. Therefore, if somebody asks you if you’re as smart as a fifth-grader, tell them that you aren’t.

          C2Show: and take off the tinfoil.

          Wrong. From the past, I’ve been able to identify historical trends and project them into the future based on current events. I have done this, consistently, and accurately, throughout my life. Let’s take the example used above, Venezuela.

          You think that Antifa and BLM are unique? In that video that I talked about in my previous reply to you, the speaker talked about the “collectivos”. This is a group of folks in Venezuela that did the exact same thing down there that Antifa and BLM did here. As was done up here, statutes were toppled in Venezuela.

          There are other events that happened in Venezuela that have recently happened in the United States… Many similarities. Antifa and BLM are Marxist organizations. They have stated that. BLM is even calling for a communist revolution.

          Look at how the riots of January 6 are treated compared to how the riots of 2020 treated. Notice how the FBI and other law enforcement acted quickly against those who rioted at the capitol… These are many of the same agencies that dragged their feet last year during riots that resulted in massive destruction of property, fires, attacks, harm, etc.

          One-sided enforcement against the conservative side and against the leftist side. The “collectivos” did many other similar things in Venezuela that Antifa and BLM did in United States. The government supported them, just as it appears that the Democrats have encouraged Antifa and BLM.

          Let’s add in the voting software that allowed the Democrats to steal this recent election. A part of that software, that made that possible, was created for Venezuela. The purpose? To give the government the voting results that it wanted.

          In fact, Venezuelan Americans, watching the unusual and irregular activities happening at the vote counting centers, automatically realized that this election was being stolen. They saw that exact same thing play out in Venezuela.

          As the speaker in the video warned, don’t assume that the Venezuela events that she talked about “cannot” happen over here. The Venezuelans did not think that what eventually happened there actually happened.

          What can we expect moving forward?

          With election fraud institutionalized, with the backing of the legislative branch, the incoming regime, the courts, the leftist media, etc., this fraud would be extended. Expect Democrats to make inroads at the federal and state executive and legislative levels.

          Once they have enough people in place, we could expect to see revisions in the Constitution. Adjustment or removal of the first and second amendments. Possibly the amendment on presidential term limits would be removed. Expect the electoral college requirement to be removed and favor of the national popular vote choosing the president. This would make it easier to steal the election.

          These proposals would get approved in Congress, and then forward to the states. With enough Democrats in place to ratify these changes at the state level, these changes will occur with the Constitution.

          This is based on what I had read occurred in Venezuela over the past decade. It’s not a conspiracy when you can detect a historical pattern and accurately project what would end up happening.

          If you don’t want to take my word for it, those who escaped from socialist regimes, or who had lived in a previous socialist regime that became capitalist, had taken the, “Oh S(BEEP), here we go again” mindset to what had been occurring in the US since November, even before.

        • thebesig says:

          Response to C2Show Part 2A January 11, 2021

          C2Show: You using steve buscemi character is definitely a self reflection of your posting behaviour here.

          Every time you argue with me, you expose your apparent psychological profile. As a result, every word, sentence, paragraph, Smiley, photo, etc., that I use in response has a purpose. This is based on my understanding of your apparent psychological profile. You are reacting exactly as I would expect you to react… To my amusement.

          I knew that this is going to get under your skin. I stand by my using it against you as that is precisely how you come across to me. You are arguing from a purely emotional standpoint. You anger easily, and keep demonstrating that you have anger, control, and ego issues.

          You’re throwing this back at me as if it “described me” is like a child saying, “I’m not the poo-poo head, you are the poo-poo head!”

          C2Show: Take your asperger’s medication and calm down, buddy.

          I know that I’ve destroyed someone in argument, real good, when they accuse me of having some form of “psychological problem” or “psychological issues”. I did a quick check of Asperger’s syndrome. One of the symptoms, apparently, is the inability to detect social cues.

          Well, let’s see. You complained about my “long post”, while completely missing the point behind why you got hammered with a “long post”. It appears that you’re the one that has problems detecting social cues. I would recommend that you check with your doctor about getting a referral to someone who could possibly check that for you.

          Heck, I would not be surprised if you were picked on a lot when you were growing up. This includes your friends spinning you like a top. You get spun up easily.

          C2Show: and calm down, buddy.

          I’m having a great time doing this, why should I “calm down” from hammering you? If you truly wanted me to “calm down”, you would simply ignore me. After all, how could I generate a response to you if you don’t even reply to me?

          C2Show: The world is going to be alright with or without Trump as president.

          Heeelllloooo! Anybody home C2Show?

          You’re not the type that follows history and current events, aren’t you? I’ve been a history buff for 41 years. I’ve been a news junkie for 38 years. One of the common trends, among both history and current events, is the fact that human nature does not change.

          If certain things occur in the past, repeatedly, which resulted in the same results, repeatedly, and you see the same things playing out currently, the expect would happen? Does the saying, “Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it” ring a bell?

          C2Show: Just calm down, please!

          I’m having a great time doing this, why should I “calm down” from hammering you? If you truly wanted me to “calm down”, you would simply ignore me. After all, how could I generate a response to you if you don’t even reply to me?

          C2Show: Boy, I can see it now. Little chubby besig

          I’m going to give you some facts about me to assist you with coming up a better estimate on my height and weight.

          How many 50-year-olds do you know, could run 6+ miles in the morning when the stars are still up, six days a week, then sometime after a run run go up three floors of stairs in a three-story home without being out of breath, then go out and weed the garden… Easily bending down repeatedly, from a standing position, to pull weeds up repeatedly, without being out of breath?

          Hint: I could quickly get up, from sitting on the floor, without grabbing onto anything. I could also do this with just the power of my legs, without needing to push myself up with my hands and arms. And, still, not be “out of breath”.

          In other words, you are incorrect about my weight. You’re also incorrect about my height. In reality, this is just you demonstrating your anger, control, and ego issues. You’re making up for the fact that you got destroyed in the debate, in the face of your inability to argue, by making erroneous assumptions about what I do on my end.

          This also indicates the possibility that after being picked on as a kid, you ended up being a bully… And continued to be a bully. You’re not used to this kind of pushback, aren’t you? The more you reply to me, the more you prove to me that you are like “Blobfish”.

          Democracy to bondage cycle

        • thebesig says:

          Response to C2Show Part 3A January 11, 2021

          C2Show: smashing his keyboard

          I use dictation software to voice my responses via microphone. That dictation software, for its part, puts words on a Microsoft Word document. Then, it is a simple matter of transferring my response to the response box here.

          I do not do this in anger, but with enjoyment.

          C2Show: with all those cheetos crumbs flying all over that nasty desk of yours.

          I don’t eat at my home office. Also, why would I be eating Cheetos while dictating my responses to you?

          Hellllooooh, anybody home C2Show? Do you realize that I would not effectively be able to generate replies if I were eating given the fact that I use dictation software? Think C2Show, think!

          C2Show: “How dare he mocks me! I will write a novel to get him!”

          Wrong. I take sadistic pleasure in destroying arguments like yours online. I’ve been doing this for over 17 years. There is a purpose behind everything that I say, and I adjust accordingly each time the opposition replies. Again, you are exposing your apparent psychological profile to me.

          All I have to do is to say the right things to get you to react a certain way. You have done precisely what I expected you to do based on what I’ve said in my previous replies.

          C2Show: Yeah, okay buddy. You got me!

          Yes, I did get you. This isn’t the first time that you and I argued. Every time that we argued, you revealed more of your apparent psychological profile, which allows me to refine it. What I say to you in response is based on that added knowledge.

          Every word, sentence, paragraph, etc., that I say to you is designed to get you to react a certain way. It consistently works like a charm.

          C2Show: I am indeed Steve buscemi. Cue the corny meme, new obsession of yours, huh?

          In reality, you are butthurt over the fact that I slammed you with that meme. I laughed my rear end off when I put those words onto that picture, then posted it here. I laughed after the fact. I know that if I find myself laughing at something I said or did, the person that I am addressing would get pissed. The fact that you keep repeating my use of that meme against you showed that I got you in the jugular with that meme.

          Whatever it is you thought of your response performance with your recent post, this is how you came across to me:

          C2Show Wojack NPC slow drool

          • C2Show says:

            Ah yes, find a picture and copy and paste remarks for a meme. Not very creative of you, Besig.

            Calm down, buddy. Don’t be so defensive, I bet you were the hick carrying the confederate flag, no?

            How could Lars be right? You are a chickenshit coward who can’t man up to shit you write.

            Yowzers! What time is it there for you? Early Times?

            • C2Show says:

              So were you the hick carrying the confederate flag around US Capitol?

              When will you just fess up and realize its over and move on. New President coming in and not much anyone can do about that.

              • thebesig says:

                C2Show: So were you the hick carrying the confederate flag around US Capitol? [REPEAT POINT]

                First, why would I carry a flag that my great-great-grandfather fought against? My great-great-grandfather was Union soldier.

                Second, weren’t you the one that took issue with what Jarhead said about a Black in a previous thread? You do realize that despite your accusing him of racism, you used a racist term in the above statement, do you?

                I’m not being sarcastic either. At my last unit before I retired, I was the senior Equal Opportunity Leader. You used a term that we officially considered as racist.

                Third, even though Washington DC is less than a half a day’s drive from where I live, and even though I could have shown up, I knew the potential dangers that existed. Again, I have been a above for 41 years. I’ve been a news junkie for 38 years. I’ve been tracking what the Democrats have been up to, including their allies throughout society, over the past several decades.

                If you were not blind to current events, and to what is going on in this country, you would see the and increase of what is economic, political, societal, warfare against all Trump supporters.

                Situations like this requires an extensive study of the new demonstrations’ environment, as well as the asymmetrical warfare environment that they are contained in.

                Unlike you and Major Narcissist, I will not rush through on pure muscle memory and on emotion. I think things through and do things smartly… To include choosing my battles.

                I have been doing my part on conservative message boards.

                C2Show: When will you just fess up and realize its over and move on.

                Telling me to “fess up and realize” to what you think is the case is equivalent to telling me to “fess up and realize that there is a herd of unicorns on the golf course down the street”.

                You’re making an erroneous assumption about what I think. Like Major Narcissist, and Mr. Blobfish, you are driven by anger, ego, and narcissistic issues. These three, in combination, makes you believe, erroneously, that your emotional based opinion on what is going on is “reality”.

                It isn’t. Understand that what I argued on this thread, regarding election theft, is fact. I will believe that thousands of people who witnessed election theft, and base my argument on what they saw. Add to that the analysis done by data analysts, statistical analysts, forensic analysts, etc. It speaks volumes when thousands of affidavits are collected and can be categorized into just a few categories of fraud across multiple states.

                What I have argued on this thread, I will argue well into my old age, I will argue this exact argument as an old man on his deathbed… And I will take this argument with me to the graveyard. Let that sink in.

                C2Show: New President coming in and not much anyone can do about that.

                That’s what the socialist, who called the guest host for the Sean Hannity radio show, who said this exact same thing.

                However, I could tell that you possess little information about current events. Your dismissal of the election fraud that occurred, the obvious, in-your-face, election theft, is disturbing. It is low information individuals like you that’s going to cost us our freedoms.

                The software that was used in Dominion, is similar to that used in Venezuela. 29, or 30, states used Dominion. The contested states used Dominion. A forensic audit of a voting machine in Michigan showed that the machines were designed to generate flaws… The machines’ aim is to provide the voting outcome that the government wanted.

                According to an affidavit, signed by a Venezuelan, one of the software that used for Dominion was designed to protect Chavez from recall, and was designed to ensure that he kept getting elected, along with his allies in parliament. This system continued with Maduro.

                Why do I mention this? If you continue to be in denial with regards to election theft, and this theft is institutionalized via the inauguration of a fraud, what happened in Venezuela will happen here.

                As the socialist in the above link stated, they “socialists/leftists” have the machines. Meaning, they control the election’ outcome. Give it another two, or three, election cycles before large segments of the population decide not to vote… As it would be obvious that no matter who they choose, the bureaucracy will choose the winners.

                Just like in Venezuela, voter participation will gradually decrease, and changes to the Constitution will be implemented. Expect the Second Amendment, and Electoral College to be removed. Expect term limits for the president to be removed.

                Don’t think that it could happen here? What has already happened here already has happened in Venezuela.

                C2Show Baghdad Bob give up and move on

            • thebesig says:

              C2Show: Ah yes, find a picture and copy and paste remarks for a meme. Not very creative of you, Besig.

              If it were not very creative for me, you would not have commented on it. However, the fact that you found the need to comment on the meme shows that like the previous meme’s I’ve used against you, I got you in the jugular.

              C2Show:Calm down, buddy.

              No. I’m having a great time doing this. I will continue hammering you like what I’m doing here.

              C2Show: Don’t be so defensive,

              Don’t mistake my jumping at the opportunity to prove you wrong as “being defensive”. Let’s face it, you made an unqualified, uneducated, opinion about my physical appearance and about my intent. Why? I hammered you so hard in my response that you were left with attempting to denigrate the meme that I used, and with attempting to build a caricature of me. You did this as a substitute for actually debating.

              Again, as I have told others, I take sadistic pleasure in doing this. I have fun proving the opposition wrong. I will take any opportunity to do so. One lesson, that you should have drawn from this, is that it is foolish to rush into an argument in a fully emotional state… Absent fact, reason, and logic. That is equivalent to rushing into a gunfight with you holding onto a spork as a weapon, against someone firing at you with a squad automatic weapon.

              C2Show: I bet you were the hick carrying the confederate flag, no?

              First, why would I carry a flag that my great-great-grandfather fought against? My great-great-grandfather was Union Soldier.

              Second, weren’t you the one that took issue with what Jarhead said about a Black in a previous thread? You do realize that despite your accusing him of racism, you used a racist term in the above statement, do you?

              I’m not being sarcastic either. At my last unit before I retired, I was the senior Equal Opportunity Leader. You used a term that we officially considered as racist.

              Third, even though Washington DC is less than a half a day’s drive from where I live, and even though I could have shown up, I knew the potential dangers that existed. Again, I have been a history buff for 41 years. I’ve been a news junkie for 38 years. I’ve been tracking with the Democrats have been up to, including their allies throughout society, over the past two decades.

              If you were not blind to current events, and to what is going on in this country, you would see the beginning of what is economic, political, societal, warfare against all Trump supporters.

              Situations like this requires an extensive study of the new demonstrations’ environment, as well as the asymmetrical warfare environment that this is contained in.

              Unlike you and Major Narcissist, I will not rush through on pure muscle memory and emotion. I think things through and do things smartly… To include choosing my battles.

              However, I have been doing my part on conservative message boards…

              C2Show: How could Lars be right?

              He isn’t. He is colossally wrong. Read my rebuttals to him below.

              C2Show: You are a chickenshit coward who can’t man up to shit you write.

              First, as I mentioned to you earlier, I am not writing these responses. I am dictating my responses using dictation software. Do I need to define for you what “speech to text” is?

              Second, if I were to “chickenshit” or a “coward” who “can’t” man up to my arguments, then how do you explain the fact that I have been debating my positions online for over 17 years? How do you explain the fact that I’m debating this specific argument on this thread nonstop?

              C2Show: Yowzers! What time is it there for you? Early Times?

              Hint: my last batch of replies were posted at the end of my day. What’s it to you? You should focus more on getting a clue about what you are talking about then on what time it is in my area.

  7. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    Or, someone is injecting noise and bullshit into the current mess.

    I suspect someone is trying to see just how damnfool gullible the left will be, like how they got totally pwned over the “OK” side stuff, where they -still- won’t admit it isn’t a racist gesture, despite some sketchy folks throwing it, now, just to pwn them more and watch them flip out.

    • Only Army Mom says:

      ^This^ right here is the reason I pay attention to Q and that stuff. When those on the Left act and react as if they believe this is the plan of Conservatives, it tells me everything I need to know about them. The real problem is, the Left doesn’t need to actually believe this, they just say it is what Conservatives believe and are planning as justification for their Gestapo tactics…banning Conservative voices on the internet, ranting about the need to ‘register’ via taxing every legally owned firearm and bullet, banning ‘high capacity’ magazines and of course, getting rid of the ‘military style weapons of war’ aka Scary Black Rifles. And their lapdogs in the media do their part to paint gun owners as crazed insurrectionists who present a danger to civilization.

      However –

      Even it were true, every last letter of it, there is little I can do about it all until it directly affects me.

      KoB and many others here and elsewhere are correct in being prepared for almost anything. Recently, someone accidentally took my phone as they left my house. I realized the only way I had of communicating was either sending internet messages or leaving the house to find a neighbor’s or public phone. Not EOTWAWKI stuff, but it got me thinking.

      I now have reinstalled a landline phone that does not require internet or power. And I printed out important phone numbers including the never-used landlines of friends and family across the country. In addition, because where I live, (not my house directly) power has been known to go out due to storms, so there’s lots of nonperishables in the pantry. In the past year when the store shelves were emptied, I was well set. In other words, I am as reasonably prepared as I can be, no matter what happens. Including nothing or a ‘panic-demic’.

      • Thunderstixx says:

        “In other words”….
        You already had several thousand rolls of buttwipe, and not the C-Rat kind of stuff that leaves splinters either !!!
        Life is just too short to buy cheap toilet paper !!!

    • 5JC says:

      If not BS than guessing all the rads are getting to them. Nye County has enough glowing radiation in it to be seen from space with the naked eye.

  8. The Other Whitey says:

    One of my firefighters attended the DC rally the other day. I spoke to him last night about it, and got some firsthand info.

    To my surprise, he met Ashli Babbitt at Lindberg Field and was on the same plane with her. She spoke with him and almost everyone else on the plane. She was very friendly, very passionate, very patriotic, and had no criminal intent. Her only objective was to make her voice and that of tens of millions of other Americans heard by the corrupt fucks who allegedly represent us. She made an excellent impression on everyone present.

    He was stunned at the number of people in attendance. He estimates there were at least 700,000 in his own FOV, and he couldn’t see everything. It was, however, a shoulder-to-shoulder-back-to-back, cattle-pen-style crowd from the Capitol steps to the Washington Monument. Most, if not all of us, on TAH have been there and know exactly how big the National Mall is (I believe the technical term is “fuckhuge”).

    He heard Trump’s speech. The speech specifically called for peaceable assembly in accordance with the 1st Amendment. At no point did Trump publicly advocate violence, unrest, or insurrection.

    There were antifa infiltrators present. He encountered several who were surprisingly open about their identity and intent. The vast majority in attendance, however, were patriots, and the vast majority of them did not enter the building.

    He did not enter the Capitol Building, but was on the street out front. The building was not “stormed.” He saw Capitol Police officers remove barriers, open the front doors, and wave people inside. He did not witness firsthand what went on inside the building, but he did witness Capitol Police begin assaulting assembled protesters without warning or provocation outside. He saw a Capitol Police officer run up to a man on the upper section of the Capitol steps, grab him, and throw him over the railing. The victim was merely standing there and not even verbally engaging any uniformed personnel. He fell thirty feet to the ground below. My firefighter, being a firefighter-paramedic, attempted to reach the man to render aid, but was blocked from doing so by Capitol Police, despite identifying himself and stating his intention. He is not sure of the guy’s status, but saw him unconscious on a gurney when he (finally) received aid.

    He witnessed other Capitol Police personnel violently assault two older folks who were on their knees, facing away from the CP officers, and vocally praying for God’s protection on all LE personnel present. These people had placed themselves between the Capitol Police and the (nonviolent) crowd, and were invoking the Almighty on behalf of the Capitol Police. The Capitol Police officers behind them nightsticked them for it without any warning. What the actual fuck?

    He heard shots fired from inside the building, and found out later via news feed that the victim was Ashli, whom he’d met on the way over. He had texted her to be careful because of Capitol Police’s actions he had seen. He’s very, very upset about that.

    Official reports do not match the firsthand accounts at all. Something stinks to high hell. Capitol Police acted inconsistently and acquitted themselves disgracefully. By their conduct on the 6th, they are an embarrassment to Law Enforcement. Whether by incompetence or malice, they set up the events of that day, and we are being lied to about it.

    • LC says:

      The building was not “stormed.”

      With all due respect to your firefighter, who I’m sure, like most people, was indeed peaceful and quite likely didn’t see the chaos, this view looks a little different:

      https://sg.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/scenes-mayhem-pro-trump-protesters-003754604.html

      Throwing shit at the cops, spraying them with what is presumably a type of pepper spray, breaking windows, etc., isn’t exactly ‘peaceful’.

      Now, absolutely, most people were behaving fine. No question about that. But when police are trying to secure an area, and the response is aggressive, it’s going to be a bad day. We saw that with the BLM protests, too.

      I think there’s plenty of blame to go around, but to suggest the blame rests entirely with the Capitol Police seems overly optimistic.

      • 11B-Mailclerk says:

        Dude! They opened the doors! That is -complicit- action in this fiasco.

        You have one job: keep. The. Yahoos. Out.

        That damnfool decision set this all off. Absent that

        No one would have got in. No one.

        Notice the windows? Armored. Doors, ditto. You need power tools to breach. You -cant- get in with sticks and stones.

        Can’t.

        They. Let. The. crowd. In.

        That, right there, just made this a totally different thing. I did -not- want to believe it.

        They. Let. The. crowd. In.

        Deliberately

        Stupid or malicious no longer really matters. I tend to think “stupid” , because otherwise this was a setup.

        And -that- means the -Left- is on the coup path.

        Please please please just be “stupid” .

        • 11B-Mailclerk says:

          If someone breaks down your door, and you shoot them in self defense, it is pretty clear cut.

          If you open the armoured doors because they demand it and you were afraid, behind armored doors and windows, and -then- shoot them, it is sketchy as all get-out.

          But for that deliberate act of

          opening those armored doors,

          this obscenity never happened.

          Qui Bono?

        • LC says:

          Thank god even you think ‘stupid’ is more likely.. otherwise, you’re arguing that because some police opened doors… *POOF!*… leftist coup?

          Pareidolia is when people see patterns in random things, like clouds that look like Jesus.   You have a form of this that sees Leftist plots in everything, including the ‘fog of war’.  

          • Thunderstixx says:

            Not necessarily leftist on the cops part, but the fact that they opened the doors to let people enter then started with the nightsticks, teargas and firearms is indicative of just how deep the corruption runs in the swamp.
            We saw it with Barr, Pence and a host of others….
            That is what scares me the most, that the police will allow the “elites” tpo actually initiate huge sanctions on people that supported and worked for the Trump Administration.
            That will eventually leak down to us as we all become more unruly.
            We are in far greater danger now than at anytime in mife life for takeover and scrapping of the true American ideals that constitute the greatest country in the history of civilization.
            We are far more likely to end up in camps with biteme and kommie in charge than we ever were with Trump.
            BTW….
            Fuck you larsie-boi…

          • 11B-Mailclerk says:

            That presumes leftists haven’t been following a playbook for a century.

            They have. You may have noticed such patterns when other countries fall to the hard Left. Some of those folks have even written about methods.

            Gramasci for example. Or am I imagining that? Heh.

        • penguinman000 says:

          Hanlon’s razor.

      • The Other Whitey says:

        Let me reiterate: Capitol Police removed barriers, opened the doors, and started waving large numbers of people in. They *encouraged* people to enter the building.

        My firefighter remained outside and couldn’t speak to exactly what transpired within, but based on what he witnessed outside he is extremely skeptical of the official claims. Maybe some of those anqueefa infiltrators started some shit, but CP officers went from encouraging the crowd to enter the Capitol building to nightsticking, tazing, and teargassing (and throwing people over the upper railing) those outside without warning or visible provocation.

        Do you know what to make of that, LC? Possibilities include incompetence, malice, incompetent malice, and malicious incompetence. If there was malice involved—which can’t be ruled out just yet—then who was calling the shots, and why?

        How many times must we catch them lying their ass off before it counts as enemy action?

        • UpNorth says:

          “(T)hen who was calling the shots, and why?”. Muriel Bowser? On behalf of the DNC? Just a wild guess.
          There was no reinforced police line inside the Capitol, on purpose. Mutual aid offered from adjoining PD’s and the federal government was turned down. By who? Muriel Bowser. She’s the mayor, the way this was handled is on her, or, at least it should be. Because of her actions, or, more correctly, inactions, at least 2 people are dead. That would be Ofc Sicknick and Ashlii Babbitt.
          I also read that another Capitol officer committed suicide today. Prayers for him, his family both blood and blue, and for Ofc Sicknick and Ashlii Babbitt and their families.

          • The Other Whitey says:

            Does Capitol Police answer to the city of DC?

            • 11B-Mailclerk says:

              Congress

              • The Other Whitey says:

                That’s what I thought, and the whole mess is thus fraught with unpleasant implications.

                • OWB says:

                  The Speaker of the House is in charge of the Capitol Police. That is why certain groups are coddled and allowed to run amok while there.

                  Perhaps the officers, without contrary instructions, thought they were to treat these protestors the same way as others they have been ordered to NOT arrest and instead allow to vandalize the place?

      • timactual says:

        ” this view looks a little different:”
        “Official reports do not match the firsthand accounts at all.” OtherWhitey

        “A group of blind men heard that a strange animal, called an elephant, had been brought to the town, but none of them were aware of its shape and form. Out of curiosity, they said: “We must inspect and know it by touch, of which we are capable”. So, they sought it out, and when they found it they groped about it. The first person, whose hand landed on the trunk, said, “This being is like a thick snake”. For another one whose hand reached its ear, it seemed like a kind of fan. As for another person, whose hand was upon its leg, said, the elephant is a pillar like a tree-trunk. The blind man who placed his hand upon its side said the elephant, “is a wall”. Another who felt its tail, described it as a rope. The last felt its tusk, stating the elephant is that which is hard, smooth and like a spear.’

        https://duckduckgo.com/?q=the+blind+men+and+the+elephant&t=newext&atb=v248-1&ia=web

  9. Imagine what Long John Nebbel/Candy Jones and Art bell would have to say about this if they were still alive?? Where are you George Noorey??

  10. Wireman611 says:

    Amazon, Apple and Alphabet (Google) are now taking down Parler.

    • Anonymous says:

      Orders from the DNC Politburo.

      • 11B-Mailclerk says:

        Conservative Treehouse and Citizens Free Press had to move to new hosting to avoid The Silence.

        ACLU is taking heat from their fellow leftists for saying “this isn’t good” .

        ACL-freaking-U is getting left-flack.

        Not the behavior of folks who confidently just won a free and fair election by the largest no-cheating vote total ever.

        Lol.

      • Commissar says:

        Bullshit.

        The DNC is not that powerful, you paranoid clown.

        • MarineDad61 says:

          Not that powerful?
          DNC not only corralled ALL the 2016 superdelegates for Hillary
          (against Bernie),
          and rigged the 2016 debates (for Hillary),
          but also systematically ran all the dozen or so 2020 hopefuls out of town, 1 by 1, and paved the road for Biden to waltz in.

        • Anonymous says:

          Soros has got them on a leash.

    • Commissar says:

      Not exactly. You all love to scream that you are the victims. Between them, a Google and Apple remove more than 500,000 apps per year from their platforms for policy violations.

      Amazon stopped doing business with them. And gave them proper notice under their contract that they need to move their platform to another service. There are other companies that can offer the same services.

      Parler can just move to new servers.

      Apple is telling them they need to add features to allow moderation and to actually moderate their platform and remove calls for violence by their users. The app never actually should have been approved for the Apple store in the first place based on the App Store requirements…

      Apple requires apps “include a method for filtering objectionable material from being posted” and “a mechanism to report offensive content.”

      Parler prides itself and markets itself as doing neither. So they never should have been in the apps store to begin with according to Apple’s own policies.

      Google is also demanding they start moderating calls for violence on their app. Google policy which is less restrictive than Apple’s still do not allow Apps that that “depict or facilitate gratuitous violence or other dangerous activities,” and that “ allow, contain, or facilitate threats, harassment, or bullying.”

      • SFC D says:

        And who gets to decide what is “objectionable material”? You? Apple? Nancy Pelosi? Trump? I find nearly every word you write to be objectionable, yet I would never consider revoking your right to be a progressive mynah bird.

        • MI Ranger says:

          Exactly, as long as you preach our point of view it is ok. If you object then you are speaking false truths and must be censored.

          Of course you can go to another platform: Apple or Google prevent you from reaching 80% of your audience though!
          You have ample warning: 24hrs on a weekend is plenty of time to transfer all of your 350 server’s worth of information to another cloud provider!

      • 11B-Mailclerk says:

        But not the lefties calling for violence, or the mad mullahs calling for violence, just certain people.

  11. Commissar says:

    The election was not stolen.

    You are either a fool or a knowing fucking traitor.

    Trump needs to be removed from office because he tried to launch a coup. And till is trying to overthrow the results of a free and fair election.

    He has been collating governors, Secretaries of State, and attorneys general and trying to convince them to “find votes”, find something he can use as evidence to continue to claim the election was stolen, and deceit if the election.

    He is continuing to perpetrate an ongoing coup.

    And, despite knowing full well he did not win the election, and despite knowing full well his claims that the election was stolen is driving his cult to commit act of sedition, insurrection, and violence…

    He continues to make these claims.

    As do shitbags like you, Sig.

    Right now there is a going plot to try to overthrow both Georgia elections. He has forced out the US Attorney in Georgia and has appointed some henchman to serve as acting US attorney. The minion has pulled in other trump loyalists to work on a team to challenge the election results. They will make some bullshit claims to continue to undermine the perception of legitimacy of our elections. Baseless. Without evidence sufficient to indicate systemic fraud.

    Every election has small statistically irrelevant mistakes, they are staffed mostly by volunteers. But those mistakes are not evidence of systemic fraud or election rigging, and have less than a 0.01% impact on the election. In fact audits of Georgia indicates the impact was less than 0.001%.

    The Georgia is still a Republican run state. The election was run by Republicans and Republicans were in the counting rooms, not just poll watchers, by Republican poll workers. And the damn counting stations were streaming the processing and counting live with multiple camera angles.

    No national or state election in history has so much transparency, oversight, and scrutiny.

    The a Trump administration had multiple opportunities to present evidence in multiple lawsuits of election fraud. In fact some judges DEMANDED Trump lawyers present evidence.

    Now several Trump lawyers are facing sanctions from state BARs for violating ethical standards due to the frivolous nature and deceptive claims of their lawsuits.

    And several lawyers are now and more will be facing multimillion dollar and even billion dollar lawsuits.

    It was all a scam, a performance, all intended to make it appear the election was stolen so Trump could use the lie as a pretext to overthrow the will of the American people.

    • ArmyATC says:

      *yawn* Anything you have to say is meaningless after you joyously celebrated the deaths of older American citizens, fuckwad.

      • Commissar says:

        Bullshit, I never did that.

        I spent days trying to convince them to wear masks to protect themselves.

        And what you claim was”celebrating” their deaths was me pointing out that the bullshit surrounding refusing to wear masks would disproportionally effect the same demographics that are refusing to wear masks because they are more vulnerable to the virus.

        And you snowflakes decided to clutch your pearls and act like I was celebrating your deaths. After I spend days convincing you intransigent dipshits to wear masks to protect yourselves.

        The duplicity and bad faith over the claim that I was celebrating their deaths is breathtaking and every single person making it is a no integrity troll. You have zero integrity.

        Also, apparently you are a traitor who supports overthrowing a free and fair election and install a despot.

        • SFC D says:

          You danced with glee, anticipating the deaths of your political opposites. You can’t lie, deflect, or obfuscate your way out of that. You’re a liar and a fraud.

          • Commissar says:

            Except for the days, even weeks, and going on months I spent trying to convince you all to wear makes to protect yourselves and those close to you.

            Huge counter example to your claim.

            And you have lost the right to ever call me a fraud. You supported overthrowing our democratic republic entirely based on a FRAUDULENT pretext.

            • 5JC says:

              As did you. But when you support mob rule it is ok.

            • The Dead Man says:

              And yet, the CDC have shown that those always wearing a mask are more likely to become infected. Albeit in a very small control group.

              You’re a liar and an idiot at best. I think more and more likely you’re paid. You’re too predictable to be a proper shitposter. Even the laziest SA and Twitter trolls were more sporadic. Nevermind that on top of being predictable in appearance, I can also tell how active you’re going to be in the thread before ever touching it.

            • 11B-Mailclerk says:

              …And then Hondo posts your quote, again, and you look both stupid and false.

              How many times now?

            • SFC D says:

              It’s not a counter example. It’s a deflection. Swing and a miss, hotshot.

            • SFC D says:

              I did not and do not support overthrowing the government. I do not support any of the asshats that entered the Capitol by force, regardless of their cause. I don’t even support Trump 100% of the time. If you support some person or cause 100% of the time, then you’re not thinking for yourself. As you repeatedly demonstrate. You’re still a fraud.

              • 5JC says:

                Kind of sums me up as well. I haven’t yet found a cause in America worth committing felonies over. There are so many better ways of doing things.

            • OldManchu says:

              You and these fucking masks! What an idiot.

          • penguinman000 says:

            Sure he can. He can change the definitions of words at will.

            By glee he meant enthusiastic concern for the well being of others.

    • Commie-Tsar says:

      I’M SO ANGRY AT ALL OF YOU… I JUST PISSED IN MY CARE BEAR UNDEROOS!!!!

    • thebesig says:

      Response to Commissar Part 1A January 10, 2021

      Commissar: The election was not stolen.

      Wrong. The election was stolen. I will demonstrate as I dismantle the rest of your drivel.

      Commissar: You are either a fool or a knowing fucking traitor.

      Wrong. Unlike you, I’ve gone through the lawsuits and supporting affidavits. These are signed documents, under penalty, attesting to first hand observation detailed in the affidavit. The Trump side received thousands of these affidavits from multiple states, states that were contested, of election fraud occurring. These were “in your face” voting theft and law violations to engage in voter theft.

      Going by facts, these first-hand observations, video of fraudulent actions like people feeding the same ballots into the machine multiple times, data analyst results, statistical analyst results, historic trends, etc., does not make me a “fool” or a “traitor”. However, your dismissal of these facts makes you a fool and a useful idiot not just for the Democrats, but also for the Chinese Communist Party, Iran, and for others who are interested in weakening the United States and in undermining it.

      Commissar: Trump needs to be removed from office because he tried to launch a coup.

      Wrong. President Trump insisted on a peaceful, nonviolent, demonstration. That’s what the vast majority of the demonstrators who showed up did.

      Commissar: And till is trying to overthrow the results of a free and fair election.

      Wrong. He is still working to right a wrong. This election was stolen. I’ll believe the people who were there, and the raw data, before I believe your baseless opinions of what happened. The fact that you refuse to see this as anything other than a “free and fair” election speaks volumes about you being a useful idiot for the DNC, CCP, et al.

      Commissar: He has been collating governors, Secretaries of State, and attorneys general and trying to convince them to “find votes”, find something he can use as evidence to continue to claim the election was stolen, and deceit if the election.

      Wrong. He has more than enough evidence to prove that this election was stolen. Many of us have seen videos of election theft occurring. We’ve seen unusual action like throwing GOP challengers out, and cheering. I’ve gone through affidavits and lawsuits.

      President Trump contacted all the above people to get them to do their jobs. No, he isn’t asking them to find more evidence. He’s asking them to do things like do a real audit of the votes, release agreements that may be in violation of state laws, to convene the state legislatures, etc.

      No, the statement about the election being stolen is not a “claim”, but a statement of fact. Again, I’ll believe the people that saw this first hand before I believe your biased, partisan opinion on this election.

      Commissar: He is continuing to perpetrate an ongoing coup.

      Wrong. He will continue to fight to get this righted. No, he is not encouraging a coup. The reality is that the DNC, their RINO allies, and others have staged a coup against the President, and against us as the electorate. The fact that we, as an electorate, lose our ability to hold our elected officials accountable at the ballot box… Does not bother you… Speaks volumes about you.

    • thebesig says:

      Response to Commissar Part 2A January 10, 2021

      Commissar: And, despite knowing full well he did not win the election, and despite knowing full well his claims that the election was stolen is driving his cult to commit act of sedition, insurrection, and violence…

      False. The President and his team have seen far more evidence than what I have been able to download and review, or have read at the website the evidence was displayed on. He knows for a fact that he won the election, and so do we… This election was stolen, the Democrats cheated, there was fraud, etc.

      No, we are not a cult. Understand that President Trump did not make us who we are today. We’ve always been this way. With President Trump, we’ve found someone who is willing to do what we’ve always wanted a Republican to do. After years and decades of disappointment, you can’t blame us for supporting the President the way we support him now.

      No, he’s not driving us to commit sedition, insurrection, violence, etc. Understand that the vast majority of the supporters who were there did not commit violence. In fact, evidence is building that it was embedded ANTIFA that did the rabble rousing.

      Again, those committing sedition, insurrection, violence, etc., are on the left.

      Commissar: He continues to make these claims.

      Not claims, but statement of fact based on valid evidence of election theft.

      Commissar: As do shitbags like you, Sig. [SELF PROJECTION]

      Unlike you, I’ve gone through the relevant lawsuits, supporting affidavits, court opinion, have seen videos, etc., showing election fraud. You, apparently, haven’t. You’re going by what leftist media has told you, and you refuse to look at valid evidence showing election fraud.

      You keep pulling shit out of your ass about this being an “honest and fair” election, and consistently sling that shit to see if that shit sticks to the walls. Unfortunately for you, the vast majority of us on this site saw evidence that this election was stolen.

      Commissar: Right now there is a going plot to try to overthrow both Georgia elections.

      Correction, there is an effort to highlight election theft/fraud and to move to correct for that fraud.

      Commissar: He has forced out the US Attorney in Georgia and has appointed some henchman to serve as acting US attorney.

      He has every right to do that. If a US Attorney is not doing his job, then he needs to be fired and replaced by someone that would hopefully do the job that’s expected of his position.

      Commissar: The minion has pulled in other trump loyalists to work on a team to challenge the election results.

      I’d rather have “Trump loyalists” working for President Trump and his appointees than to have arrogant, elitist, government bureaucrats who want to act like they are in charge and get to dictate how things will run. With “Trump loyalists” we could finally get things done. We didn’t elect these bureaucrats. They were not hired to lord over us, to go counter an elected official, etc. Their job is to do the elected official’s bidding.

    • thebesig says:

      Response to Commissar Part 3A January 10, 2021

      Commissar: They will make some bullshit claims to continue to undermine the perception of legitimacy of our elections. Baseless. Without evidence sufficient to indicate systemic fraud.

      False. An overwhelming amount of valid evidence has been brought to bear. Again, thousands of affidavits have been received by the Trump team. These affidavits were signed under penalty, with those signing stating in writing within the affidavit that they would testify to the affidavit’s contents under oath in a court of law. Forensics, data analysis, statistical analysis, eyewitness reports, etc., have pointed to a few categories of fraud that occurred across multiple state lines. These are not baseless, but founded on a solid mountain of evidence.

      Commissar: Every election has small statistically irrelevant mistakes, they are staffed mostly by volunteers. But those mistakes are not evidence of systemic fraud or election rigging, and have less than a 0.01% impact on the election. In fact audits of Georgia indicates the impact was less than 0.001%.

      False on multiple counts. We’ve seen video of “volunteers” distancing observers from the ballot counting. I, and possibly others here, have heard a training audio conducted for volunteers essentially briefing them on how to cheat. We have reports of “volunteers” cheering when GOP poll challengers were thrown out of the counting center.

      These “volunteers” were involved in the fraud. See the video of the center in Georgia? In plain view of the cameras recording them, they pulled cases of ballots out from under the table. Then we see the same ballots being rushed through the counter. This matches the Biden spike for Georgia as seen on the bar graph.

      We’re not talking about simple human errors or mistakes, but blatant fraud involving ballots being counted multiple times, ballots being adjudicated for Biden that shouldn’t be, manufactured ballots being counted, etc.

      Additionally, a forensic audit of the voting machine in Michigan, similar to that used in Georgia, showed an error rate that far exceeded what the national election organization deems acceptable. The voting system used in Georgia was designed to give the government the voting result it needed.

      The audit that they did in Georgia was BS. They audited a chosen county. The elections officials brought the ballots to the auditors, and not all ballots in that county, or in the state of Georgia, were counted.

      Commissar: The Georgia is still a Republican run state. The election was run by Republicans and Republicans were in the counting rooms, not just poll watchers, by Republican poll workers. And the damn counting stations were streaming the processing and counting live with multiple camera angles.

      Not exactly. Don’t mistake government bureaucrats as being representative of the rest of the state that they live in. Government bureaucrats lean heavily democratic. It speaks volumes when many of these poll volunteers and workers had Biden/Democrat paraphernalia. It also speaks volumes when these same workers harassed and ultimately caused the GOP challengers to be pushed out of the counting center.

      The counting stations may have been streaming live, but that didn’t stop the conservative poll challengers from being placed under obstacles that made it hard for them to challenge the polling results.

      Did you not see segments of videos of an investigation done by a Georgia Senate panel? We had people step up and testify to what they saw, what I argued above. One of the witnesses told the panel that they managed to get into the machine and get two-way communication with the machines. But wait! There’s more! They explained that they had the ability to change the data in the machines if they wanted to.

    • thebesig says:

      Response to Commissar Part 4A January 10, 2021

      Commissar: No national or state election in history has so much transparency, oversight, and scrutiny.

      False. No national or state election has been subject to this much fraud as the one that we just had. You can’t say that there was a lot of transparency, oversight, and scrutiny, when GOP challengers were forced out of the counting centers, or had obstacles placed in front of them that prevented them from doing their jobs. Thousands of affidavits were filled out, by both Democrat and Republican, attesting to this fraud.

      Commissar: The a Trump administration had multiple opportunities to present evidence in multiple lawsuits of election fraud. In fact some judges DEMANDED Trump lawyers present evidence.

      Again, have you gone through the relevant lawsuits that the Trump side presented? The relevant affidavits? The court opinions? I could tell that you haven’t. I have.

      You’re also wrong about what the judges wanted. They didn’t demand evidence. If they wanted evidence, they would’ve moved from the hearing to discovery and trial. They held hearings, but never brought this to discovery and trial. They came up with BS opinions, opinions that contradicted the affidavits that supported the lawsuits, as to why they could not bring this to discovery.

      Commissar: Now several Trump lawyers are facing sanctions from state BARs for violating ethical standards due to the frivolous nature and deceptive claims of their lawsuits.

      Need I explain CCP style “Social Credit” to you? No, they are not having their careers threatened due to “violations” of ethical standards for supporting “frivolous” and “deceptive” claims. They are being punished for daring to stand up against the fraud, of which the courts are a part of.

      Again, I’ve gone through the relevant lawsuits, and have gone through relevant affidavits. Let’s put it this way, a person that is a defendant in a case where even a fraction of this evidence is brought to bear would have plenty to worry about. Those who are/were lawyers who have seen these lawsuits have argued that people have been convicted on less evidence than what these lawsuits contained.

    • thebesig says:

      Response to Commissar Part 5A January 10, 2021

      Commissar: And several lawyers are now and more will be facing multimillion dollar and even billion dollar lawsuits.

      Are you talking about lawyers like Sydney Powell versus Dominion? She has a mountain of evidence to support her claim. I saw the response letter from her lawyer. It was epic and short… He told them that he wasn’t impressed with their threats and that they should go ahead and file their lawsuit.

      This will give them their time in court to present the evidence that courts have previously refused to hear.

      Commissar: It was all a scam, a performance, all intended to make it appear the election was stolen so Trump could use the lie as a pretext to overthrow the will of the American people.

      Again, I’ve read the relevant lawsuits and have gone through the relevant affidavits. I’ve seen graphic representation of the data from selected states, what the raw data showed. Affidavit testimony, statistical analysis, data analysis, and forensic analysis have proven that Trump votes were harvested and transferred over to Biden. This was done in the machine via “glitches” and “updates”, this was done in plain view where “poll volunteers” grabbed stacks of Trump ballots and placed them in bins to be counted with Biden ballots for Biden. Then we have eyewitness accounts of stacks of pristine ballots that were filled in perfectly… For Biden. Need I go on?

      The reality is that widespread voter fraud was committed, with the help of a system that has parts designed and used in Venezuela to keep dictators in power… Designed to give the government what results the government wanted.

      No, President Trump and his allies are not gunning to overthrow the will of the American People. The Democrat Party Machine, their RINO allies, bureaucrats, etc., have so far successfully overthrown our ability as an electorate to truly chose our representatives… And to hold them accountable at the ballot box if they fail to truly represent us.

      Once Biden is fraudulently inaugurated, and his regime gets underway, we will have lost our ability to chose our representatives and to hold them accountable. Our “Representatives” and “Senators” will no longer be our public servants, but our political masters.

      You need to get a clue in two major areas… History and current events. Look to what happened in Venezuela over the last two decades. With all other things being equal, that’s similar to what we are going to experience.

    • thebesig says:

      I’ll believe this woman and what she saw first hand, as well as others who saw first hand, the election fraud that President Trump argued occurred. Here she is hammering a leftist that tried to cast doubt on her claims the way you are trying to cast doubt on the first hand observations of thousands of people:

      Dominion woman testifying to what she saw

      • The Other Whitey says:

        How many times have we caught Lars lying? I lost count.

        • KoB says:

          To answer your question TOW, just about every time he opens his mouth or types his spapos, personal attacking, vulgar drivel.

          thebesig…outstanding job of laying it all out in a concise factual manner. You are spot on with all of your facts. A number of us, and others, have put this together from the available info. It’s really odd, to me, that the spapos seagull seems to know more about what happened in these other states that he has never been in while this was ongoing. You are surely correct in that the deep seated civil service bureaucrats in Georgia are demonrats. Been that was for decades, if not 100+ years. Georgia was known as “yellow dog democrats” for ever. It was only in the early 90s that some of the career pols switched to the repub side.

          The steal surely happened in Atlanta and the grubernator is as big a RINO and POS as they come. He ONLY won that job because his competitor was Stacy Abrams. I can use my own little county, again, as an example. It is small, 30 some odd miles from any decent sized city, predominately black and has been a demonrat stronghold forever. Obama took it in ’08, took it again in ’12 (albeit with a much smaller vote total), Hitlery just barely edged out Trump in ’16. This past November, the county went with Trump with over 500 votes more than Biden got. The ONLY way that could have happened is if the majority of the Black folks here voted for Trump. I personally know over 30 Black folks that voted for Trump. The fear that the political masters have that was voiced by one of our commenters on another thread (11B? maybe), that the white blue collar and black townie vote alike is here.

          BTW, the Georgia US Attorney had announced BEFORE the election that he would be stepping down after the FIRST (ht 2 Sarge) to return to private practice.

          Most of us are purely sick of the spapos, his personal attacks, vulgar invectives, and hate driven drivel. I do my best to just ignore him and do not read his posts. I notice he has yet to respond to penguinman000’s challenges. Not that I ever thought that he would.

          • penguinman000 says:

            To be honest, I never thought he would. He comes across as one of those types who hides behind a keyboard or his rank.

            I’m pretty certain he’s never experienced someone intent on bending his teeth.

            Aside from that he also just refuses to engage when his logically fallacious arguments are pointed out.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hey, what are you smoking? It might be a controlled substance.

      • rgr769 says:

        Maybe he’s been hitting the pipe, like Gropey Joe’s boy. Oh, wait, those photos were Russian disinformation, likely fabricated in the basement of the Kremlin.

    • timactual says:

      ” He has forced out the US Attorney in Georgia and has appointed some henchman to serve as acting US attorney….”

      This must be history’s first coup by court of law. I wonder if plaintiff will waive a jury trial. The voir dire would be quite amusing.

  12. AZRobert says:

    If the Super Secret Space Seals(not to be called SS but SSSS) are involved…..

    Alas, Babylon…

    Sometimes the shrooms aren’t magic but you glow anyways.

  13. Commissar says:

    I don’t agree with the power tech companies have to control, influence, manipulate, filter, moderate, restrict, and silence speech in this country…

    But the first Amendment does not apply to private companies deciding what can and cannot be said on their platforms.

    I also don’t agree with the FACT that the right has decided to lie and perpetrate a mass delusion as a pretext to try to overturn the will of the people and attempted an insurrection to install a despot that lost a free and fair election.

    • Penguinman000 says:

      Our republic will survive the spate of riots just fine. Half the country going along actively silencing political dissent is a horse of a different color.

      By your reasoning the phone companies should have the right to moderate your conversations that involve use of a phone. Doesn’t matter if they effectively own the infrastructure and you don’t have any real options to go somewhere else.

      The fact you refuse to recognize the obvious danger in these actions doesn’t come as surprise. Gotta break a few eggs for your anarchocomune utopia I guess.

      Martin Niemöller is spinning in his grave. This is exactly what he warned about. But what did he know, he just lived it.

  14. Commissar says:

    Stil waiting for you all to do a blog post on Officer Brian Sicknick…. a veteran murdered by MAGA insurrectionists during their attempt to overthrow our democratic republic.

    .

    • SFC D says:

      Officer Sicknick’s family has requested that his line of duty death not be used as political fodder. Respect that.

      • Commissar says:

        Oh, is that it has not been posted here? Because the blog posts here usually have a political motive?

        Makes sense.

        I retract my question about why it has not been posted.

    • SFC D says:

      I don’t know if that’s the reason. I was asking YOU not to politicize it and hijack the thread.

  15. Commissar says:

    Trump is not silenced. He can do a press conference. Or an interview.

    And he might.

    But he doesn’t want to face questions.

    Twitter was and has always been a safe space for him where he could get a message out without facing questions, or really and meaningful scrutiny.

    • MarineDad61 says:

      Yes, as the leaders of CHINA and IRAN still have today.
      Both threaten murder.
      1 threatens terrorism.
      But Twitter sees no need to cut off all that?

      Riddle me that, Batman.

    • 5JC says:

      Good point. He did a press conference. Most networks refused to show it and YouTube took it down.

  16. MarineDad61 says:

    President Trump’s FaceBook page is still up, but he’s in
    FakeBook JAIL since January 6.

    That said,
    I am here for the phonies.
    Not anything farleftwingnut nor farrightwingnut.

    Remember, I live in Pennsylvania,
    possibly the worst state for switching (state level) voter laws and procedures in 2020, using China Virus as the excuse to do so, violating the Commonwealth Constitution by circumventing the (GOP) legislature,
    all to allow opening up the floodgates for fraudulent mail-in and late voting,
    with the blessing of the (Dem) Governor and the (Dem) Attorney General.

    Bring on the phonies. Not this.
    https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      I am just wondering if Trump is Troll enough to send out an emergency alert saying “bye. looking forward to next phase.” and 20 random five-letter groups. Then go golfing at Maralago.

      Heh.

      Some folks would utterly stroke out.

      Heh.

      • 11B-Mailclerk says:

        Sorry. Wrong thread. Oops.

        concur. Prefer to see the poo-flinging directed at valor thieves.

      • KoB says:

        That’s evil! Heh heh! I like it!

      • MarineDad61 says:

        11B,
        Need random five-letter groups?
        Pull out the old Windows 98/Me/2000/XP/7 CDs
        for their product keys.

        What’s that pile of MS boxes and discs on the Oval Office desk?
        Nyuk, Nyuk.

  17. Sapper3307 says:

    SO 5FDP living the dream???
    https://youtu.be/eOkkWIOkWl8

  18. SteelyI says:

    The letter and many of the comments here are simply out of touch with reality.

    While we come up with reasons to hate each other, our actual enemies are enjoying the show, and we collectively are exceeding their wildest dreams.

    I’m sure that the Supreme leaders of Iran, China, and the dPRK are loving this, as are the leaders of a wide variety of terrorist groups, but I am quite sure that Vladimir Putin and General Garasimov are toasting the memory of Minister Primakov.

    Keep it up. When I see the images of these wannabe patriots in their hand me down ACUs and tacticool kit I see the demise of the American experiment and the rise of a tribal system that will make the rest of the world think fondly of Afghanistan.

    The irony is that the vast majority of Americans enjoy liberty and a standard of living far beyond that of the vast majority of the world, and we seem hell bent to throw it all away.

    • Poetrooper says:

      SteeleyI says:

      “The letter and many of the comments here are simply out of touch with reality.”

      Then goes on to predict an apocalyptic future:

      “…I see the demise of the American experiment and the rise of a tribal system that will make the rest of the world think fondly of Afghanistan.”

      That’s two apocalypse references in the same thread. You a fan of apocalyptic thinking, Colonel?

      And you question others sense of reality…

    • 5JC says:

      I wanna be a tribal leader.

      This mean the legacy government will give me stacks of money not to do bad things so they can pretend they are legitimate.

      I think the wildest dreams of China, Iran and NORKs are a bit more than you are thinking. Iran and the NORKs want the US to die in a nuclear fire. China wants Biden to live eight more years. Neither of these are likely.

  19. Slow Joe says:

    I wos groin to say sometin transcendental, witty and funnny, but then eye decided to openz another Budlight.

  20. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    This is an example of one very fast-thinking and effective cop at The Stupid.

    Ballsy

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-cop-led-dc-rioters-from-open-senate-chambers-door-before-it-was-locked

    Promote early. Try in teaching/training role if interested.

    Hope he has five kids. Need more like him.

    • penguinman000 says:

      Nah. He’ll probably be hung out to dry. Someone, somewhere will find an issue.

      “Look, he’s using escalation of force by drawing his baton.”

      “He had his hand on his service weapon when the citizen wasn’t armed.”

      I kept waiting for a Spartan kick to send the guy tumbling down the stairs.

    • MI Ranger says:

      Looked like a bunch of bad actors asking: “Ok we are here, where are we supposed to go? This place is a maze. When do we get paid? Hey you dropped your stick thingey, want me to pick it up and break some stuff?” “No just follow me! Donuts and Starbucks up on the top floor. You get paid after we all exit the building.” “Ok, but I got to pee, can I just pee on the floor here?”

  21. STSC(SW/SS) says:

    “While we come up with reasons to hate each other, our actual enemies are enjoying the show, and we collectively are exceeding their wildest dreams.”

    You can thank our politicians for the reasons we hate each other. Most of us are just trying to live in peace but agitators like Obama, the Dems and the media are doing everything to divide us

    “I’m sure that the Supreme leaders of Iran, China, and the dPRK are loving this, as are the leaders of a wide variety of terrorist groups, but I am quite sure that Vladimir Putin and General Garasimov are toasting the memory of Minister Primakov.”

    Sure they are. They are behind some of the discord in America and they are looking forward to a Biden Administration where the can run wild.

    “Keep it up. When I see the images of these wannabe patriots in their hand me down ACUs and tacticool kit I see the demise of the American experiment and the rise of a tribal system that will make the rest of the world think fondly of Afghanistan.”

    You like that 1000 man BLA who kept having accidental discharges of their weapons. Afghanistan can’t be any worse than Little Mogadishu in Minneapolis.

    “The irony is that the vast majority of Americans enjoy liberty and a standard of living far beyond that of the vast majority of the world, and we seem hell bent to throw it all away.”

    Well we were until the lock downs started. Thousands of businesses closed or destroyed by riots(mostly peaceful of course). Millions of jobs lost due to the lock downs while politicians and their family and friends violate the very laws these wannabe tyrants put in place.

    Personally I think our freedoms have been a facade for the last three decades. As long as we have been electing the right people for office like the globalist Presidents such as Clinton, Bush and Obama life was great. We were supposed to elect Hillary but the plan went awry with the election of Trump.

    Now the mask has been ripped off and the ugly face of real Facism/Marxism has been exposed. Right now the Big Tech is doing a great job as the new Pravda.

    • STSC(SW/SS) says:

      This was supposed to be a reply to steeleyl

    • Commissar says:

      The instigators are the lying pieces of shit that have perpetrated a mass delusion that the election was stolen.

      That lie is driving this violence.

      And anyone perpetuating it is an absolute traitor shitbag.

      Republican lie to themselves, echo and regurgitate the lies, fan fiction conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, instigate violence and try to overthrow a democratic republic because of their shared delusions..,

      And you blame liberals for all bullshit?

      What the hell is wrong with you? The Trump cult did this to themselves and did this to the country.

      • STSC(SW/SS) says:

        “The instigators are the lying pieces of shit that have perpetrated a mass delusion that the election was stolen.”

        In case you didn’t notice the violence started long before the election.

        “And you blame liberals for all bullshit?”

        Why yes I do.

        You need to get a grip on reality you worthless Apparatchik. Democrats were committing violence to Native Americans and Blacks and Hispanics and anyone else that stood in their way even before there was a Republican Party.

        Today they use the Marxist BLM and ANITIFA to do their dirty work in the name of social justice.

      • The Dead Man says:

        You ducked besig’s rather thorough breakdown of your propaganda you fraud.

        • Commissar says:

          I am not the one propagandizing.

          You all support overthrowing our democratic republic and installing a despot.

          You are a traitor.

          The fact that you are too stupid to see it makes it worse, not. better.

          • The Dead Man says:

            You are 100% propagandizing you Goebbels wannabe. The fact that I can literally skim the threads and tell just where you’ll be posting and how much you’re posting is pretty indicative.

            Get a new job. You’re bad at this one.

          • timactual says:

            I hear Thorazine does wonders in cases like yours.

        • C2Show says:

          Duck BeSig breakdown? Its always the same gimmicky, rhetoric from him. Signs of a person with spectrum disorder.

          • The Dead Man says:

            Sock puppet cleanup on Aisle 2.

            And if you’re not Lars pretending anyone cares about his well being. At least imitate LC, he’s far more tolerable to talk to.

            • C2Show says:

              Been around longer than you and posting here since 2007. Try again…longer than Lars.

              Of course, if you saw I called Lars and BeSig two clowns who have more in common than they realize…you wouldn’t have come up with bullshit sock puppet angle.

              • The Dead Man says:

                Been around for quite a while, just took a long hiatus. Then I come back to Lars being unbanned, shitting up threads and lazy ad hominems.

              • thebesig says:

                C2Show: Of course, if you saw I called Lars and BeSig two clowns who have more in common than they realize…you wouldn’t have come up with bullshit sock puppet angle.

                Given the fact that I have debated against both you and Commissar, I can say with certainty that it is both you and Commissar that are the two clowns with a lot in common. You have a lot more in common with Commissar then you realize. Both of the guys demonstrate anger, control, and narcissism issues. Hence, another commenter here thinking that you were Commissar’s sock puppet. That assumption was reasonable given your similarity to Commissar.

          • The Dead Man says:

            You know what, I can’t actually tell who you’re mocking at this point. If it’s blue on blue, my bad. Drinking and shitposting only goes well when I know who I’m making fun of.

            Also for the hell of it, Lars I’mma let you in on a secret. Not everyone here voted Trump.

            • SFC D says:

              And not everyone who voted for Trump is a raging fan of his.

            • penguinman000 says:

              Shush. Don’t go bursting his bubble of preconceived notions. Next you are going to tell him not everyone here is white or religious.

              And if you reveal to him there are a number of people who have more formal education than him…his head might explode.

          • thebesig says:

            C2Show says: Duck BeSig breakdown?

            Yes, he ducked my initial rebuttals to them above. That should have been obvious to you to the point to where you should not have questioned the statement that you were replying to.

            C2Show says: Its always the same gimmicky, rhetoric from him.

            Considering that I dismantled you and destroyed you every time you and I engaged in debate, it would only be natural that you would be dismissive. Left with an inability to counter an argument that completely obliterates your responses, were left with just dismissing my argument as “same gimmicky, rhetoric”.

            C2Show says: Signs of a person with spectrum disorder.

            This is one common tactic from those that are destroying the bag… The keys me of having one form of issue or another. This is just your attempt to regain control in a situation where you lost control in.

            As I mentioned earlier, you demonstrate anger, control, and narcissistic issues. All your nonsense was just you expressing your frustration over the fact that I would not let your BS stand.

    • Commissar says:

      Oh, I just remembered what Tucker said last night…

      Is that the nitwit that gave you the idea that liberals are at fault for what happened?

  22. Commissar says:

    thebigsig,

    You keep LARPING about conspiracies that the election was stolen…

    But either you don’t actually believe it was.., or you are a coward.

    Because if you had any courage and actually thought the election was stolen you would be doing more that whining like a slapped simp on this blog.

    You would have been storming the Capitol like the rest of the Q de’Twats that actually did believe the election was stolen.

    But you are not going to do a damn thing, because you know in your gut that the election was not stolen, and you just want to believe it was.

    Otherwise you are just gutless.

    • Commissar says:

      And before anyone gets twisted-up about “instigating violence”…

      I am not, I know thebigsig is not a coward; he is just full of shit when he pretends to believe the election was stolen.

      • Poetrooper says:

        You have a cowardly habit yourself of using profane and violent language when it’s long distance.

        Bet you don’t have the balls to do it face to face…

        • Commissar says:

          I do Poe.

          And I think pearl clutching over bad language is performative outrage and base virtue signaling.

          I know you hear worse during you career and chose not to be offended,

      • 11B-Mailclerk says:

        The folks there who know it was stolen were outside. Protesting.

        The LARPers that entered the Capitol Building were a mix of nutcases, attention whores, and at least one hard Left serial agitator/provocateur. (The one that told the whopper about being there to “document” . Standard Andy tiffa bullshit misuse of “press” )

        Bagdhad Bob has a better rep.

        And you got pwned, big-time, above. As the bear said to the yet-again ravaged Hunter: “admit it. you ain’t here for the hunting.”

        • Commissar says:

          It was not stolen.

          And if you were not a traitor you would have read the court case transcripts and see they were given plenty of opportunities to present evidence and could present evidence of fraud.

          • 11B-Mailclerk says:

            Stolen.

          • Commie-Tsar says:

            I AM A QUISLING!!!!

          • thebesig says:

            Commissar: It was not stolen.

            Wrong. It was stolen. It was flat-out stolen. I mean, go ahead, read one of the lawsuits. You claimed to have been a deputy. Would you wish to be a defendant in a case where the lawsuit against you contained even a fraction of the lawsuit that the Trump Team filed?

            Commissar: And if you were not a traitor you would have read the court case transcripts and see they were given plenty of opportunities to present evidence and could present evidence of fraud.

            False. Read the court opinion dismissing the case. But don’t stop there. Before you read the opinion, go through the lawsuit and supporting affidavits. The court held an initial hearing. However, despite having more detailed evidence, via lawsuit filed, the judges refused to move this towards discovery and trial. They arbitrarily, through procedure or through legal judo, found an excuse to refuse to hear this.

            If you did read the lawsuits, and listen to the Trump team, the main push was to prove that the Constitution was violated. This is the argument that you want to take to the U.S. Supreme Court.

      • thebesig says:

        Commissar: And before anyone gets twisted-up about “instigating violence”…

        What is good for the goose is good for the gander. If the president’s call for a peaceful protest is ignored, and propagandists decide to pull things out of thin air trying to accuse the president of instigating violence, where a transcript of the speech proves otherwise, then your demands that I should’ve been with the others is… To include daring me to do something similar to what they did to the Capitol on the 6th… Indeed… Is your calling to engage in violence.

        Commissar: I am not, I know thebigsig is not a coward; he is just full of shit when he pretends to believe the election was stolen.

        Again your narcissism shows. Did you even read my initial rebuttals to you above? I laid out, in detail, the examples of election fraud that occurred. Again, I will believe the facts. You may not like those facts, and your emotions and feelings tell you that this was “honest”. It wasn’t.

        The reason why you don’t want to believe that this election was stolen is that you got your way. “Bad Orange Man” is going to be gone. You did not care how that was going to be made possible. As long as he is “gone”.

        I know that this is hard for you to wrap your mind around. However, what I argued here is my true stance. I am not arguing from emotion, feeling, wants, etc. like you leftists do. I argue based on fact, reason, and logic.

    • thebesig says:

      Response to Commissar Part 1A January 12, 2021

      Originally posted by Commissar: thebigsig,

      You keep LARPING about conspiracies that the election was stolen…

      But either you don’t actually believe it was.., or you are a coward.

      First, if anybody is a coward, it is you. Instead of responding to my rebuttals to you above, you start a new post further down the thread… Knowing that I was going to check my previous rebuttals to you for your responses.

      This is equivalent to children, after having been belted by their parents, running to their rooms and once out of sight, facing their parent, and raising their first and making angry faces in defiance… Outside their parents’ view.

      Second, there is nothing “larping” about my argument above. Again, I have gone through the relevant lawsuits, as well as gone through relevant affidavits. Additionally, I’ve gone through the court opinions dismissing the case or refusing the case presented by the Trump team.

      The fact that you would mention, or even doubt, that I would believe what I just argued speaks volumes about your narcissism, control issues, and anger issues. Before I enter an argument, two main requirements have to be simultaneously met:

      1. I have extensive knowledge gained via first hand experience or study, or both.

      2. Those that argue against me clearly have no clue about what they are arguing.

      Both have been meet here.

      The basis, of my argument, that this election was indeed stolen are listed above. Mainly, thousands of eyewitness reports who have completed and signed affidavits attesting to the fraud that they observed. In these affidavits, they signed under penalty. Additionally, they stated that they would testify, to the contents of the affidavit, under oath in a court of law.

      I’ve seen videos of election workers committing election theft on video. It speaks volumes, for example, when a poll worker shoves the same batch of ballots into the counting machine. In the case of the Atlanta video, where there supposedly was a leak that required evacuation, you can see people pulling out extra ballots. When you compare the graph of votes for that night in Georgia, this incriminating video explains the spike in Biden votes.

      I’ve listened to a video, of a training session, where workers/volunteers were being trained on how to implement the cheat. In this video, the instructor knew that people were going to find out that a vote had been casted for them. This instructor had a contingent plan in place in case this person protested and swore that they did not vote. Result? Across the country, we heard situations of people who knew for fact they didn’t vote but were told that they already voted and they could not cast a vote for the day.

      I could go on, but I am basing my arguments on other people’s first-hand experiences, data analysts, statistical analysts, etc.

      Again, as I mentioned above, this is not a conspiracy. It is a fact that this election was stolen. I will believe those who observed that theft, across multiple states, before I take your narcissistic opinion seriously.

      Pro tip 01: If I am arguing a position, yes, I believe what I am arguing.

      Pro tip 02: I base my argument on the facts. Meaning, if you disagree with me, it is because you are wrong. Provably so.

      Pro tip 03: What I have argued on this thread, I will argue well into my old age, I will argue this exact argument as an old man on his deathbed… And I will take this argument with me to the graveyard. Let that sink in.

      Pro tip 04: Over the past 17 years, I’ve always came out of debates, against leftist, with the same argument that I had before these debates. I anticipate that this will be the case for the foreseeable future.

      Take your claims, about what you assume I “know to be the case” and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.

    • thebesig says:

      Response to Commissar Part 2A January 12, 2021

      Originally posted by Commissar:

      Because if you had any courage and actually thought the election was stolen you would be doing more that whining like a slapped simp on this blog.

      Presenting the facts does not constitute “whining”. I am doing what I can do… Argue that position here and elsewhere. If our corrupt court systems would throw out a valid case against President Trump, what would I be able to do that the president or other conservatives haven’t done?

      The only person that is whining, between the two of us, is you. That is all you’ve done on this and on other threads. You can’t handle the fact that people refuse to buy into the propaganda that you have fallen for hook, line, and sinker.

      In the PSYOP world, reactions and statements like yours fall under the “impact indicator” category. Meaning, the success of leftist media propaganda showing up with your regurgitating this same propaganda.

      I presented evidence to support my argument. I point to those people, thousands of people, who witnessed election theft. In your response, I’ll you could do is bitch, whine, moan, and groan, about your perceived reality coming into conflict with the factual reality.

      Additionally, do you even know what a Simp is, Cuck? Did you just call all the people on this blog females? Question to the other posters here, did I send you guys money? Someone needs to explain to his clown what a Simp is.

      Commissar: You would have been storming the Capitol like the rest of the Q de’Twats that actually did believe the election was stolen. [INDUCTIVE FALLACY]

      Thousands of peaceful demonstrators were there. They filled up large areas in spaces between the White House and the capital. However, a small fraction of the total crowd that was there entered the capital. As was mentioned on this thread, and as was mentioned multiple times elsewhere, there were Antifa and BLM agitators in the crowd… Bent on making Trump supporters look bad.

      This is not just anecdotal evidence from above on this thread. They were talking about this on their websites… About taking action that would make Trump supporters look bad.

      Many of those people, that stormed the capitol and rioted, are the very same people who would agree with you… That this election was “not stolen”. The majority of the Trump supporters; however, walked in peacefully, conducted themselves peacefully, and departed peacefully.

      Speaking of which, for someone that likes to demand that people wear masks, here you are telling me that I should have been among the crowd. This is additional proof that you have anger, control, and narcissism issues.

      Heck, you wish that I was among those who stormed the Capitol, don’t you? You’d love for me to be taken out of the equation as far as this blog is concerned as then I wouldn’t be showing you how clueless you are.

    • thebesig says:

      Response to Commissar Part 3A January 12, 2021

      Commissar: But you are not going to do a damn thing,

      Wrong. I have been doing what I could do… This is not the only place where I post in the comment sections. I have, over the past weeks, argued against the idea of fighting a revolution or civil war… On forums frequented by Millennials and older Zoomers.

      I’ve also generated memes that I’ve uploaded to conservative sites for others to use in their arguments against leftists.

      The best thing that I could do is to spread the facts about this theft, and to warn about what could happen if this theft is institutionalized with a Biden inauguration and the subsequent Biden Regime.

      Commissar: because you know in your gut that the election was not stolen, and you just want to believe it was.

      Wrong. That is not even remotely close to what my cognitive process is. Unlike you, I know exactly what my cognitive process is. What I argued on this thread is dead accurate. It represents what I truly believe. Again, I will base my arguments on the facts. I will believe what the facts indicate.

      What I know, in my gut, is exactly what I have argued on this thread. This is not a case of my wanting to believe. As much as I have destroyed you in debate, you should already know, by now, that I consider emotion-based reasoning, feelings-based reasoning, etc., as an abomination.

      I don’t recall you standing in the vicinity when people told me that I should rely on feelings, and not just on fact and logic. If numerous people, in my life, have not gotten me to abandon the facts in favor of feelings, what makes you think that simply assuming such would make it the case?

      I believe what the facts indicate. And, the facts indicate that this election was stolen. I will believe thousands of people who witnessed election theft, election irregularities, election fraud, etc., while rejecting your opinion about what occurred on election night. I will believe the presentations by data analysts, statistical analysts, forensic experts, “good” hackers, at the expense of the propaganda being pushed that this election was “free and fair”.

      It wasn’t. I’ve been to banana republics in different parts of my life. I even lived in one for five years. I know banana republic tactics when I see them… What happened in November, and in Georgia in January, is textbook banana republic shady election.

      If you’re okay with a banana republic style election, don’t complain when you end up on the crappy end of the stick handled by a banana republic style government.

      Commissar: Otherwise you are just gutless.

      And, as usual, your assumptions about me are wrong. You see, one main difference between us is that I base my arguments, and analysis, on the facts. For example, I’ve accurately identified you as someone with narcissistic, control, and anger issues. Your actions, in the comments section of this blog, are predictable.

      Your emotions and feelings radiate strongly from your posts. I can tell, looking at your responses, that anger flows right through you when you read the blog posts, and conservative responses in the comment sections. This anger continues to flow through you as you burn your keyboard spewing your responses.

    • thebesig says:

      Here’s a graphic to help you understand why you have no clue about what you are talking about.

      Red twitter bird election theft did hapen

  23. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    To ensure that the Dictator Trump doesn’t run for a second term so he can (eventually! He totally will!) invoke the Insurrection Act and suspend the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments, and Habeas Corpus, ending our freedom,

    The Left will now (Just for the duration! Promise! Just on those bad people!) Effectively suspend the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments, and Habeas Corpus, protecting our freedom. From Dictator Trump. Who totally will. Really. Soon.

    • timactual says:

      Coming to a job interview or school application near you—-

      “Are you now, or have you ever been, a Republican?!”

      “Do you have friends or neighbors who are or have been Republicans? If so, what are their names?”.

    • penguinman000 says:

      I keep waiting on the coup they’ve promised.

  24. Curt Kastens says:

    Hello,
    It has been years since I have posted any comments on this site. I was ridiculed as a troll.
    But I do want to say this about those people who stormed the capitol. I can understand why those people who stormed the capitol think that Trump was denyed victory due to massive cheating. It is probably that everyone that they know voted for Trump. Therefore it would seem logical to them that the only way that Trump could have lost the popular vote was due to cheating.
    On one hand if I had thought that the man that I had voted for had been denyed victory due to massive cheating I would have been very enthusiastic to storm the Capitol building to at least register an unforgetable protest. So the Capitol sturmers get high marks for committment to their cause.
    But on the other hand the idea that many protestors expressed, that they were involved in an act that would change the government seems to be highly naive. One does not change a huge government like the United States government by occupying a single building for a few hours, even if it is a very important building.
    In addition I have to wonder if any of those who stormed the capitol have asked themselves why Trump was just holed up in his livingroom watching it all on TV rather than actaully providing some leadership to the assault on Congress.
    So for intellegence I would have to give the Sturmers quite low marx. hahahahahahahah, marx get it? Aint I a genie? I bet no one else could have thought of such a funny pun.
    Anyways there is no need to pay any attention to me because I do not believe in voting to elect a government in the first place. Well let me clarify that I do not mean that voting should be allowed on a one person one vote basis.
    No those who have been vetted as Greek Stoics should get to vote with each vote counting for 300 million points. All other people who are elegible to recieve a US passport should be allowed a a vote that counts for 1/300 millionth of a vote.
    The legitimacy of a government is not determined by how it obatains power, or who supports it. The legitimacy of a government is determined by what it does once it is in power.

    • penguinman000 says:

      “The legitimacy of a government is not determined by how it obatains power, or who supports it. The legitimacy of a government is determined by what it does once it is in power.”

      Ah, the ends justify the means. Methinks you need to reread some of those philosophy texts and history books.

      That piss poor philosophy is the purview of sycophants and tyrants.

  25. Curt Kastens says:

    me stinks, if you do not understand that the ends justify the means 98% of the time you are a failure as a philosopher.
    Two show that I understand one example of what the 2% looks like I would say that one should not drop a (guided) bomb on a wedding ceromony even if Hitler, Himmler, and Hydrich are all going to be there when you drop the bomb.
    Utilitarian philosophy builds the justification for the idea that the ends justify the means. But one can not build such a thing as a utilitarian philosophy without refering back to a deontological philisophical system nor can one build a system of virtue ethics philospphy without refering to the other two. What it boils down to is that ethics is subjective not objective.
    You try to tarnish my ethics by saying that they are the ethics of a tyrannt and will lead to tyranny. Tyrants and tyrany have such negative connotations in the minds of people especially men. By I can very easliy replace those words of tyrannt and tyranny with the words of Consul and Regency which would give what you said a positive spin.
    People have a habit of calling a leader a tyrannt when they do not like what he/she is doing. And when the leader is backed by a lot of people we call those people a mob.
    But when people like what the leader is doing they call him/her a visionary and his followers are disciples, or at least reasonable and intellegent people.
    Allow me to get in to the specifics of this case a bit more in my next comment.

  26. Curt Kastens says:

    in the case of the storming of the Capitol the stormers claim that they believe that the election was hyjakced. Their critics say that their claim is baseless and that they have had plenty of opportunity to show real evidence of fraud.
    But the belivers in a Trump victory believe that the election was hyjacked by a deep state conspiracy. If that was true of course one would not expect to be able to find real evidence of how the election was stolen.
    It is totally laughable that one would expect that if a group of people pulled off a massive crime that they would then turn around and explain to the world how they did it or leave clues laying around so that Trump supporters can figure out how it was done.
    In a conflict in which one side has technology that the other side does not there is no telling what kinds of things that the more technolgically advanced side could pull off that would be beyond the imagination of less technolgically advnaced side.

  27. Curt Kastens says:

    Well I was not finished but I had to wrap up a short comment.
    As I was saying if a person really thought that the election was stollen storming the Capitol would not rally be against the law. It would be a vigilante action to restore the law. Now some dumb shit might say look vigilante action is never a legal action and is therefore always against the law.
    But there is a clear exception. When the institutions of the law itself have been taken over by criminals vigilante action is the only law abiding action that there is.
    Such action will always be condemned by those in power. Duhhh once criminals have entrenched themselves in power do you think that they are going to make a public announcement letting everyone know what they have done????