Opinions on Where Things Are Heading
Youtube video interview below is by Stuart Varney with Steve Forbes (Forbes magazine) discussing future probabilities if the Democrays win the next election.
Remember, Biden is the candidate now, and from what I’ve seen of him, so close to the edge of vacuity that he was “chosen” because he’s dumb enough to do whatever he’s told by Pelosi, et al. And I’m equally sure that Sanders was told to drop out. If either he or Liz Warren had won, they would both have proven to not be as easily led around by the nose as Biden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rL9REdTHwo
In the next video, Larry Kudlow is interviewed by Stuart Varney on why recovery started so early. Need more long-term growth, not more stimulus packages. Note that at the end of the interview, Kudlow says he thinks that if Biden is elected, we’ll see another economic downturn (or a crash).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAhiBkWII6Q&list=PLv1qHE0zuJL_td8fvTAPke5WAv2Dk0LoF
The heads-up info that the recession would go from 2020 into 2021 and further to 2022, was replaced by the forecast that a deeper and more costly recession is likely to occur in 2023.
There is no reference to who would or would not be in the White House, just what these analysts indicated in their forecast. Back in 2018, a few financial analysts had already begun to forecast a recession, long before the disastrous economic effect of the CV19 virus was inflicted on us.
My only comment is that many of the small businesses that were forced to close during the lockdown will not be returning. They’ve lost too much financially and won’t recover in the near future. It does, however, give some of us a chance to reboot and have another go at self-sufficiency. I’ve been posting links to retail businesses that provide household items to the public. They at least can be supported. And I believe that most of us just want to get back to normal… whatever that is.
The Democrats were more interested in purging the liberal wing of the party and defeating Sanders than they are in defeating Trump.
In spite of their rhetoric the Democrats are fine with another four years of Trump…what they didn’t want was an independent progressive/socialist to represent the party.
They’ve drifted so far right as a party Sanders would represent a sea change in policy and platform the old guard like Pelosi, Perez and Schumer couldn’t bear to witness.
They mouth the words without meaning, and their actions reinforce their desire to remain a centrist party of corporate hacks.
This.
Horseshit.
Tell me Kennedy or Truman would be Democrats today.
No more than Eisenhower could be a Republican today…
He did everything Republicans don’t want to anymore. Raised minimum wage, started a huge federal infrastructure project, protected unemployment insurance, increased social security..he tried to reduce US troop strength in Europe…
He was mostly a centrist and would not be a popular Republican figure today I suspect.
“they’ve drifted so far right as a party”
False. The real issue for the fascists is that they dragged part of the party so far left that the neo-libs APPEAR far right in comparison.
The reason for the apparent effort to keep Bernie out is personality, not ideology. The DNC just doesn’t like Bernie and is genuinely angry with him.
The mistake people make is to assume that Biden is a center-left liberal. Nope. Biden has always been a weak sauce moron who does what he is told by his handlers–a minion to be used by stronger people.
Make no mistake. There are NO conservatives in the democratic party. None.
Hell, I don’t think there are any in the Republican party…although the RNC allows them and even some libertarians.
America has a two party system….a center-left party in the RNC and a Progressive far left party in the DNC. This is why when either party gets elected to majority position, the government continues to grow and the policies get more out of touch.
They rely on the ignorance of the voters and abuse them with identity schemes.
Ret_25X America has a two party system….
No, no she doesn’t. The United States is a single party system with two factions. The two factions pretend to have differing agendas during the campaign season and focus their base on things like abortion, immigration, gun control.
When elected they govern like corporate centrists in both parties.
There are no Jefferson classic liberals in either party anymore nor are there any classic conservatives in either party.
You get some aberrations like AOC that represents an actual socialist leaning progressive agenda, but she is a relatively singular phenomenon at the moment. Sanders isn’t even a Democrat in spite of voting with them consistently.
The bulk of the government is exactly what Eisenhower warned the US about in the 1950s. A corporate oligarchy as he predicted.
VOV…I am in total agreement with you regarding your assessment of a one-party country; divided by factions that can appear to represent two different ideologies. IMHO politicians in Every state at any level are a breed of takers who believe they are entitled. Let me explain where my first awakening took place with the realization that something was strange about how things are done politically speaking. Growing up in Indy, EVERYONE who worked for the State in ANY capacity was forced to play the game called PATRONAGE. Yes, even a lowly minimum wage lifeguard at a state park had to cash their paychecks and hand over to their managers 2 1/2 per cent IN CASH for the manager to hand to their district managers, no matter where you worked. No receipts, no nuttin’…it was called POLITICAL PATRONAGE and you had no choice but to be a part of the bi-monthly shake down. That is so petty of an example of the way the political system operated back in those days, but a prime confirmation of your comments. Obviously both parties had their hand out like that, as it was part of a very corrupt game.
The D-rat party has largely been taken over by the Progressives (Progtards like the squad). Gropey Joe is an empty suit who will do whatever he is told; he is the real life incarnation of Chauncey Gardner in “Being There.”
“I’m Joe Biden, and I forget this message.”
The Democratic Party has not drifted to the right. They have drifted to the left, and have been drifting left for decades. One main difference between Sanders and Biden is that Sanders was honest about the Democratic Party’s direction. Biden represented the part of the party that denied… To the public… The true drift of the Democratic Party.
As much support that Bernie Sanders received, the movers and shakers of the Democratic Party know all too well that the general public would not vote for a socialist. They had to deny their true nature by going against Sanders in order to pick someone who presented himself as being more mainstream.
Project Veritas exposed a Democrat, who was supposed to be “mainstream” who essentially admitted the true leaning and intent of the Democratic Party… The drift to the far left. Included in the recording? The admission that “they” were not to admit that outside their circle.
The movers and shakers of the Democratic Party want to shift further left, and are getting closer to where Sanders and AOC are at. However, they will put on a phony front about “being mainstream” and “being in the center”.
Their actions indicate their leftward drift.
They have drifted to the left, and have been drifting left for decades.
Not in terms of governance. They do not enact policies that actually redistribute wealth or create onerous tax policies at the federal level.
The govern in terms of what benefits their corporate sponsors which is not at all the same as what they say.
What they say they will do versus what they actually do are somewhat different at the federal level. Pelosi is not a leftie anymore than Schumer is, they are corporate centrists.
Veritas Omnia Vincit: Not in terms of governance. False. Their policies, what they vote for, and governance, in general, shows their leftward drift. Veritas Omnia Vincit: They do not enact policies that actually redistribute wealth or create onerous tax policies at the federal level. Demanding wage increases is an example of wealth redistribution. The Democrats are demanding to raise the minimum wage, and many among their constituents are demanding a $15.00 an hour minimum wage. In order to make this a reality, business owners/corporations would have to deal with increased labor expenses. This cuts into their own equity. They have to give up more of what they would be able to keep because more of that money is distributed to the workers. This is but one example. When you demand or advocate, increasing taxes, you’re advocating an increase in what you take from the wealthy. When you advocate spending that money on social programs, many of which are being taken advantage of by those who refuse to be employed, you have another example of wealth redistribution. The Democrats are advocating income redistribution policies at the federal, state, and local levels. Using “onerous” in your response takes both my argument, and that regarding income redistribution, out of context. Veritas Omnia Vincit: The govern in terms of what benefits their corporate sponsors which is not at all the same as what they say. Not exactly. They’re influenced mostly by special interest groups. These groups represent predominantly leftist objectives like “increasing taxes on the rich” while “increasing spending on social programs”. Granted, you’ll have other groups that have their own business and other interests to preserve, but the influence on turning out the vote, getting information out, etc., are on the special interest groups that represent the majority of their voter base. A look at their actions on the federal, state, and local levels shows a leftward drift. Veritas Omnia Vincit: What they say they will do versus what they actually do are somewhat different at the federal level. Again false. A look at their voting record, as well as on what they’ve… Read more »
thebesig, in terms of governance even Obama who promised a universal health care system and had a super majority simply gifted the insurance industry a massive new boost to gross revenue by requiring citizens to buy a product or be penalized by the government.
He had a super majority the Republicans were impotent to stop anything the Democrats wanted to do…had they actually been lefties they would have enacted Universal Health Care ala Sanders and the Republicans would have been unable to stop it.
They could have forced corporate private insurance out and replaced it with a program wholly owned and operated by the government.
They couldn’t even pass that lefty piece of legislation.
That’s my small point, I don’t believe they can execute when they are in power regardless of their rhetoric.
Veritas Omnia Vincit: thebesig, in terms of governance even Obama who promised a universal health care system and had a super majority simply gifted the insurance industry a massive new boost to gross revenue by requiring citizens to buy a product or be penalized by the government. This is a good example of leftist governance, thank you for making my point. To decide if it is leftist or conservative, you have to drill down to human nature. Conservatives trust the free market, and individuals, to make their own decisions about what to do regarding free market actions. leftist governance acts with the assumption that government, not people, could best decide what to do within the free market. Conservatives, in this example, argue that people should have a choice on whether they would spend money on a service, or to go without that service. This is how things should occur in the free market. The left, wanting the government to dictate what’s best, mandated that people engage in commerce… Purchasing a health insurance service. Obamacare is a leftist initiative that conservatives want to do away with. It’s a big reason to why President Trump pushed to have it repealed. Veritas Omnia Vincit: He had a super majority the Republicans were impotent to stop anything the Democrats wanted to do…had they actually been lefties they would have enacted Universal Health Care ala Sanders and the Republicans would have been unable to stop it. Whether this was a universal healthcare system, or one that required people to purchase health insurance, it’s the same thing. Both fall under leftist governance pushing for leftist objectives. Conservatives oppose both. Both take a decision, to engage in a free market action or not, out of the hands of the consumer and into that of the government… A leftist objective. Republicans, as you pointed out, would’ve opposed universal healthcare, just as they opposed mandated healthcare. This illustrates a difference between leftist and conservative governance. Veritas Omnia Vincit: They could have forced corporate private insurance out and replaced it with a program wholly owned and operated by the government.… Read more »
Thank you as always for your responses. I do appreciate the time you take to detail your thoughts. You always give me much to consider.
OMG, did Kommissar hack VOV’s account and posted using his login?
They can’t win with the moonbat left.
They can’t win without the moonbat left.
Sucks for them.
Indeed you are right, I’m thinking we’re close to seeing something shift for Democrats…
Whether progressives finally splinter off or something else happens the party can go no where in their current form which seems amazingly impotent and non-adaptive to the changing political landscape.
Nice of you to miss the entire point, VOV.
The article was about this recession, which was forecast in 2018 and 2019, and will extend in to 2023, which has also been forecast.
It will NOT matter one teensy weensy bit who is in the White House in the next election.
If you had to pick one film that accurately represents the Biden campaign, Hack would have to go with the Peter Sellers classic Being There.
From my investment point of view I was hoping trump would win and win by a landslide!!!!!!
But that ain’t going to happen now to many fuk ups and missed steps..
will he win in November probably not
But there is definitely a lesson to be learned here
About follow-thru. If another republican ever wins the WH in my life-time
do what you say your going to do
And not talk crap. Also how hard could it have been
To hang some turds for 2016 circus or go after tech
Companies he’s ran his mouth enough but never delivered on any promises to do so.
I guess they felt they could wait till the last minute
To (drain the swamp) I have a bad feeling it’s going to cost him the WH and more by the time they are
Finished with him
The demon rats will wait patiently for all of their insidiously planned attacks to destroy the Country and make sure that they have a firm grip on the control of power.
Marx is grinning like a sissy punk asinine piece of sh^t at the prospect of the destruction of Liberty. Nikita is telling the other minions in hell; “Told you it would happen!”
They Lionized a murderer and here lately are making a hero out of a career criminal. Al Sharpton is making sure that he has a prominent place in Houston at the funeral as we speak.
The Democrat Party has been turned into a true circus. We just wonder who is the biggest clown and who is the Ring Master?
On a side note, I wonder how soon after the protests will the Democrats once again call for mail in voting because it is just too dangerous because of Covid19 to vote in person.
Word ^^^^
This is where things are heading:
Klaatu arrives in a flying saucer in Washington, DC, accompanied by Gort, as a peaceful ambassador from an extraterrestrial confederation. But when he presents a harmless device as a gift for President Trump, his intentions are misinterpreted by one of the Democrats, who shoots him. To protect Klaatu, Gort destroys the Democrat with a green laser. As Jerry Nadler lies smoking in a
grease fire on the lawn Trump welcomes Gort to spend some time at
one of his resorts for a round of golf. Klaatu can caddy.
And thats just July….
I was thinking more along the lines of “Mars Attacks”
DANK! DANK! DANK!
Bzrorch!
Hm. Where is my stash of old vinyl albums….
Your synopsis is spot on…with the one missing piece of information. Klaatu and Gort , although representing the confederation were both actually from the Zaytock galaxy…and both had a liking for Aristocrat Vodka.
Gort, Klaatu Barada Nikto
I got the drift reading all the comments so I won’t comment on what I’m not familiar with so I can stay out of trouble. Next stop is the recliner to do fill in puzzles, read a little of Fire Engineering, Genie Magic magazine and some mail order catalogues and drift off for some nooners (sleep/nap time to you landlubbers)
Nope.
Next three years will be weirder than you think.
Something for VOV to ponder:
When you have Lars agreeing with you…
Doubt that larsy understood what VoV said, so his “agreement” is conditional at best.
And to really drop a brick in the punch bowl.
Fox news channels is just now reporting a Harvard study: a surge in chinese hospitals in -August- 2019 (Satellite image analysis), and corresponding surges in internet searches for flu symptoms.
-August- 2019.
-wow-
Following up
https://www.financialexpress.com/lifestyle/health/harvard-study-says-covid-19-may-have-hit-wuhan-in-august-2019-china-calls-it-incredibly-ridiculous/1986238/lite/
Oh, yeah – nothing happened…. nothing at all…. that they want to talk about….
My two favorite restaurants had closed completely for a couple of months and have now reopened for take out. Doing my best to support them, but there is a limit to how much BBQ and Thai food one can consume. (If I eat the tofu option in the Thai will that balance out the fat of the Que?)
Still don’t know the full extent of the economic damage around here. Most of the places I frequent will survive but it will take a while for them to thrive again. One friend had just open a restaurant about a month before this all started. Sad, but he’s remaining open.