John Kerry’s “Munich moment”

| September 3, 2013

On Saturday, John Kerry compared Bashar al-Assad, the ruler of Syria to Hitler and Saddam Hussein (but I thought Hussein was a benevolent leader who deserves to still reign over Iraq according to the Democrats) because Assad used chemical weapons. Today, Kerry told House Democrats that they are having a “Munich moment” in deciding whether to strike at and punish, Syria for their alleged use of chemical weapons.

Kerry’s derisive comments on Assad and his reference to the 1938 Munich agreement between Adolf Hitler and British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain — after which Chamberlain infamously declared it would lead to “peace for our time” — showed the hard line the White House is taking in its drive for congressional approval of the Syrian resolution. Top administration officials argue that a failure by the United States to respond to the alleged use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime will only lead to more violence and instability in the region.

So much use of Nazi-related hyperbole. Especially since those same people railed against the Nazi hyperbole when used against Hussein’s regime. I think the Democrats’ Munich Moment came with the three Congressmen on the roof of Saddam Hussein’s palace claiming he was more trustworthy than the President, back in 2003. And if Assad is Hitler, why aren’t we trying to remove him power as a stated goal instead of just “punishing” him? We “punished” Hussein for 12 years and accomplished nothing.

Or this could be a Munich Moment in 2009 when Kerry was lobbying for his current job;

John Kerry's Munich Moment

Another Munich Moment in 2007 when the Bush Administration was trying to isolate Assad and Pelosi was trying to engage Assad;

Pelosi's Munich moment

Kerry also said that Israel, America’s closest ally in the region, backed the need for a U.S. military response.

Since when did what Israel wanted ever matter to this administration?

Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Dumbass Bullshit, John Kerry, Terror War

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Zero Ponsdorf

Dang Jonn… I’ve been avoiding anything that mentions Kerry. Don’t really need new input to know he’s an ass. I never, ever, pay attention to Pelosi.

Redacted1775

Kerry’s full of more shit than a fuggin’ septic tank. Should have seen the old windbag on TV today.

JarHead Pat

I just can’t believe that POTUS and rest of the uber libdouches are going to take us to war against Syria/Iran,Obama and his ilk are doing the very thing that they hated in what G W did in IRAQ,fucking hell,well guess I better get ready for another desert deployment.Does the words to stupid to live mean anything to anyone.I wonder if kerry wants his war medals back?

PintoNag

If anybody here has seen the rationale behind using bombing to “punish” the use of chemical weapons, please point it out to me. My poor little mind isn’t able to connect the dots on this one.

Hack.Stone

Will the boots on the ground be the same troops that were too stupid to get into college?

NavCWORet

If you believe his testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee today, the administration’s stated goal is for Assad to leave power (specifically stated by Kerry as one of President Obama’s goals), that there is no plan to put boots on ground (unless there is a requirement to secure a chemical weapons site against falling into Al Qaeda hands) and that their objective is to deter and prevent the further use of chemical weapons in Syria, not engage in the civil war. They seem to want everyone to believe all they want to do is stop the chemical weapons usage.

Whether anyone believes that or not, remains to be seen.

Combat Historian

Fuck off, kerry; go back to Paris and stay there…

vietnam war protestor

What has israel done for america besides attack the uss liberty and kill americans. Send turncoat jonathan pollard and others to spy on their country. Demand trillions in forigeh aid and send american built weapons to iran so they held our hostages till after 1980 election so bill casey could steal the election for ronald 666 reagan!

cannoncocker

I’m going to start referring to Obama as “Bush version 2.0” and see how many of my left-of-center friends I can piss off.

cannoncocker

#8

I don’t know about all that, bro. All I know about Israel is what get from watching NCIS, namely, their women are insanely hot AND badass!

68W58

Well, that’s a new one: apparently according to “vietnam war protester” above Ronald Reagan “stole” an election that he won by 440 electoral votes and over 8 million popular votes. I always think that I’ve heard the stupidest thing a lefty could possibly say, but they always outdo themselves.

A Proud Infidel

@8, vietnampisstester, you’re dumber than Paul Wickre after his third bottle of Thunderbird. We also see that all of those years of smoking pot, dropping acid, sniffing glue, and drinking bong water have given you some serious brain damage as well. You’re less coherent than Nancy Pelosi on LSD!!

OWB

@ #8: OK, let’s use that logic, but apply it a bit closer to home. What have all the welfare queens done to enhance your life or mine? Don’t know about yours, but they have contributed nothing to mine, therefore I owe them nothing.

Oh, that’s right. You don’t believe in consistency, if I apply it. When you do it, it’s OK, right?

vietnam war protestor

11 If hostages had been released before election carter would probably have won. yasser arafat told carter about this act of treason years later and he knew because he was in on the deal also iran then president bani sadr said the only reason they didn’t release hostages was because of all of the american weapons reagan people see bill casey promised iran. Thats called treason! many books on this on 1980 october surprise. Welfare is there to protect the wealthy from the poor. remember “let them eat cake!” helping poor your welfare queens is by product.

rb325th

@16, no translation is possible absent heavy doses of psychotropic medications or illegal substances capable of inducing an altered state….

MK75Gunner

And if John F’n Kerry isn’t embarrassing enough you have little Marty Dumpster on the hot spot absent a fucking clue…if ever there was a puppet, you’re looking at it.

http://freebeacon.com/dempsey-cant-say-what-u-s-is-seeking-in-syria/

Hondo

@8: ever heard of something called Osirak?

A Proud Infidel

@15, I can eat just half a can of alphabet soup and SHIT a more intelligent and coherent statement than that or anything else you’ve ever posted here!

You lose.

Ex-PH2

@16, it’s nearlly impossible to translate psychobabble from someone who is higher than Baumgartner’s balloon jump.

As usual, kerry has changed his mind with the way the wind blows. He’ll do anything, say anything, agree to anything, just to keep that chair in the Oval Office conference room. How many times is this now, that he’s shifted positions? I sure hope his real history with US war stuff comes up when he sticks his oar in for the next DNC campaign.

Are there mid-term Congressional elections in 2014? Or is is 2015?

I’m trying to keep the direction of US foreign policy straight, because it’s developing more twists and turns than a Grand Canyon switchback trail.

Hondo

Jonn: I think comment 15 means someone missed their afternoon meds and is hearing voices again . . . .

68W58

Sigh-I realize that it is impossible to reason someone out of a position that they haven’t reasoned themselves into, but if Carter had gained 5 percentage points of the popular vote from the release of the hostages he would have gained a grand total of 83 electoral votes for a grand total of 132, well short of victory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1980.

There were a lot of reasons why the man was sent back to Georgia to farm peanuts-most notably “stagflation” (high unemployment coupled with high inflation-a condition so unusual in economics that they had to devise a new term to describe it). Carter was put out on his ear for more than just his foreign policy incompetence-in the process becoming the first Democratic President to serve only one full term since James Buchanan.

JarHead Pat

vietnam war protestor,please take your meds,and loosen your ty dye head band it’s squeezing the blood from your very small and some what limited brain cavity.

streetsweeper

Lemme give this goat translation a try:

“If hostages had been released before election carter would probably have won. yasser arafat told carter about this act of treason years later and he knew because he was in on the deal also iran then president bani sadr said the only reason they didn’t release hostages was because of all of the american weapons reagan people see bill casey promised iran.”

“Thats called treason! many books on this on 1980 october surprise. Welfare is there to protect the wealthy from the poor. remember “let them eat cake!” helping poor your welfare queens is by product.”

Simple translation: I from foreign country, we vetty much American help wit changing dictator from one we have to one we want. Reagan’s people came, kicked ass, left us with mess. Many books written on 1980 “October Surprise”. This one now, our “October Surprise” 2013. Barak Obama greatest man evah, he give us EBT, SNAP and money from his stash…

2/17 Air Cav

Man, I just started to come down from that circus I witnessed today featuring John “Jungle Stroll w. Cameraman” Kerry, John “Kleenex” Boehner, John “What! I’m a Senator?” McCain (What’s with the Johns?), Hagel, and some military chick who showed WAY too much thigh, and I see this post and up I go again. What’s more, yhere’s some Asshole emeritus here trying to say something. His stuff reads like Gabby Hayes speaks, dangnabbit. Hey, before I torch some meat, how was it that obamaman won the Nobel Peace prize again?

Ex-PH2

Whatever happens in re: Syria, the three Cold War major powers are still opposing each other.

That’s Russia and China vs. USA, for anyone who was not born back then, including vnwarprotestor, who knows nothing about history. All three still have nukes. Oh, yeah, France still has nukes, too. So do India and Pakistan, and Iran is working on it.

The bottom line is: there was no US interference in the removal of Morsi, and now the dissolution of the Muslim Brotherhood, in Egypt, because we don’t assist in the ouster of legitimately elected leaders. (Wait. Let me finish before you bring up that whole Central America-Sandinista thing, never mind the other stuff.) Suddenly, the US position is changing with the way the wind blows in the Oval Office, and we’re about to overthrow a legitimate government, and the people of Syria haven’t asked us to do any such thing.

If this were a roadmap, I’d say it’s leading to a state of war.

I just hope they hold off long enough for me to restock the pantry and the freezer.

Ex-PH2

Did I mention those airbases in Esfahan in Iran, the ones with all the helicopters? And the warships they’ve been building and launching?

OldSargeUSAR

@8, @15 – In addition to being blindingly ignorant, you are stupid, really, seriously stupid. That’s a shame because, you see, stupid cannot be cured. Stupid is forever. Plus, I don’t see your bedwetting issue being cured either.

@16 – Can’t help you, Jonn. Sorry.

streetsweeper

I’ll take a large glass of whole milk with a great hunk of that cake now.

Ex-PH2

For some reason, I’m having a hankering for raisin nut oatmeal cookies and cold milk.

CC Senor

@8,15 And I still hate hippies. You whine, but you don’t improve with age.

UpNorth

Jonn, I think #15 translates to “pass the joint, d-u-u-u-u-d-e”. Or it might not translate to English, at all.

MAJMike

Apparently, John of the Magic Hat was for Assad before he was against him.

AW1Ed

Kerry invokes Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies? These people are beyond delusional.

DaveO

The irony of Kerry saying all of this is outstanding. The only thing better would be Code Pink writing his speeches calling for war.

All in all, there are a lot of young Americans who jumped on what they thought was the Anti-War bandwagon, and now discovering that Dems love, treasure, and create wars when it suits their purposes and wallets. There’s got to be a few million tiny brains exploding right about now, as they fill out job applications from McDonald’s.

cannoncocker

Jonn

Yeah I knew she was Chilean. I was referring to the fact that the character she plays is Israeli. Sucks that she’s leaving the show, not sure how I’ll feel watching it without her. She hasn’t responded to my numerous marriage proposals, lol

NavCWORet

No one ran a chit across my desk for her to leave the show !!!

2/17 Air Cav

I had to run to the store and there he was in front of me on the checkout line: a 60 year old hippie. I snickered. He turned and looked my way, then looked down, at nothing. Don’t see many hippies in these parts, let alone leftovers from the 60s. Back to the Johns and obamaman. Our enemies in Syria are Assad and his opposition. Pick one. Kerry said today it is obamaman’s policy that Assad needs to go. The WH says otherwise. Bonehead is grateful that the pres consulted with him and with Congress. Grateful? Grateful? What an A-hole. McCain, who has to keep being reminded he really is a US senator, says that Allahu Akbar is the same as saying Thank God. Oh, and I would like to know who that Davis military chick is–whose skirt the whole country was looking up as she sat behind and to the left of John “Jungle Stroll w/ Cameraman” Kerry. I think her tag read “Davis.”

OWB

Careful there, PH. You could get whiplash from trying to keep up with all the gymnastic moves these clowns are making!

Ex-PH2

I know, OWB. It is confusing when they switch positions so often, though.

Rumsfeld doesn’t like any of this. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/03/20312487-rumsfeld-slams-obama-on-syria-calls-him-weakest-president-in-his-lifetime?lite

But then, he doesn’t like bodaprez, either. At least, he’s consistent so far.

Green Thumb

Nancy Pelosi embodies everything that is wrong with this country.

And I am a Democrat.

Ex-PH2

When I see ‘Munich moment’, my imagination turns it into ‘Munch Moment’.

I have no idea why.

Stacy0311

and it sounds like Charlie Rangel is beating the dead horse with regards to Syria “…before we attack Syria we need to reinstate the draft…”. Give it a rest. please

vietnam war protestor

No one denighs attack on uss liberty or bill casey committed treason with iran. So I must be on dope for bringing it up so you can still worship bonzo! By the way what was ollie north and eden pastore doing that got ollie kicked out of costa rica ?

OldSargeUSAR

@46 – Well, dipshit, there you are again being stupid. News from the 80’s is old news. Not very interesting, kinda like you.

Go away, troll.

Mr Blue

#46- an easy question to answer:

YES! Go to war for Syria!

NO! Don’t go to war for Syria!

Please pick one: YES! or NO!

Otherwise I have no idea of what you’re talking about…

vietnam war protestor

48 No war on syria! Tell republicans in congress you have kicked jane fonda off of the anti-aircraft gun, your sitting in the seat, now open fire on obama’s war in syria. VOTE NO!

2/17 Air Cav

Our enemy is anyone who uses terrorism and anyone who supports he who commits terrorism. So, who is our enemy in Syria? Certainly it is the Assad regime’s opposition. Thus, according to obamaman, is why his intention is NOT to destroy the regime in a pending military strike. Unfortunately, obamaman’s lapdogs haven’t memorized this point. This explains why John “Jungle Stroll w/ Cameraman” Kerry stated clearly at the Senate hearing yesterday that it is obamaman’s policy that “Assad must go.” It also explains why John “What! I’m a Senator?” McCain says that he supports a strike that will take out Assad. All of these clowns are confused–and for good reason: There is no ME policy that anyone can articulate, least of all the emperor-in-chief and the nitwits who keep telling him that his clothes are beautiful..