There is Always a Solution….

| March 18, 2020

An effective drug, Chloroquine, which is used to fight malaria is now found to be effective in treating Covid-19.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/17/an-effective-treatment-for-coronavirus-covid-19-has-been-found-in-a-common-anti-malarial-drug/

From the article:  As per the U.S. CDC, “Chloroquine (also known as chloroquine phosphate) is an antimalarial medicine… Chloroquine is available in the United States by prescription only… Chloroquine can be prescribed for either prevention or treatment of malaria. Chloroquine can be prescribed to adults and children of all ages. It can also be safely taken by pregnant women and nursing mothers.”[2]

CDC research also shows that “chloroquine can affect virus infection in many ways, and the antiviral effect depends in part on the extent to which the virus utilizes endosomes for entry. Chloroquine has been widely used to treat human diseases, such as malaria, amoebiosis, HIV, and autoimmune diseases, without significant detrimental side effects.”[3]

The treatment guidelines of both South Korea and China against COVID-19 are generally consistent, outlining chloroquine as an effective treatment.  – article

A little common sense seems to go a long way with this.  Let’s hope it spreads and ends the hysterics.

 

 

Category: "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", China, Korea

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  1. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    I wonder if that’s one of the medicines currently made in China that we rely on imports for the supply? A hearty thanks and FUCK YOU to the previous Administrations that made us reliant on China for Medicine!

  2. Hate_me says:

    From my understanding, chloroquine and quinine often have a similar effect on many illnesses… should we just reopen all the bars, tell people to stop panicking, and pour some gins & tonic?

    • Roh-Dog says:

      Modern tonic in the US has had the quinine levels dropped to effectively zero. The FDA made them do it for qt elongation in heart patients I believe.
      Government being the problem, again.

      • Hate_me says:

        I guess we’ll all just have to drink a few extra?

        And the actual quinine content is less important than to just get people to stop acting like the sky is falling.

      • Sparks says:

        It’s like when they took the cocaine out of Coke. Just not the same pick me up afterwards.

    • SFC D says:

      Gin & tonic might not be a cure, but after 2 or 3 you won’t give a fuck.

      • 5th/77th FA says:

        My man! I self medicated with a Hopped up laced, Barley Flavored, fermented tonic daily for years, 0 medical problems, 0 phuques given. It was only when, due to the extreme long hours of repairing storm damaged telecommunication lines, that I cut back on my daily medications that I started having BP problems. A shot a day WILL keep the doctor away.

        Jumping back to my conspiracy theory, Bernadette on The Big Bang Theory made a “joke” on one episode where she commented that her Big Pharm research group developed a virus in the morning and a cure for it that afternoon. Just saying. Lots a times dark humor is used to cover up the truth.

      • Sparks says:

        Roger that Sergeant!

    • When we were down in Cologne Panama for the on board Marine BLT going to the Jungle survival school, we had to take quinine tablets given to us by our Div. officer and if I remember, I had to initial my name next to my name on the A-Gang roster. Couldn’t tell the Female impersinators from the real girls when we went on Liberty to the clubs where they had the shows.

  3. Roh-Dog says:

    In addition to 50mg of vitamin C twice a day and 10 mcg once a day supplementation, the gf and I have been taking a little jigger of Galliano twice a day. One of the key components of the liquor is star anise(Chinese variety to be specific, irony?) which has shikimic acid, a precursor to tamiflu.
    Whether or not it’s helping health, idk, but my mood is vastly improved.
    Mission accomplished!
    There are other sources of shikimic that are readily available: pine needles, peacock fern fiddleheads, other anise.
    Efficacy: I don’t know, but at this point… check with a Doctor.

    • AW1Ed says:

      Same with pastis, ouzo and raki (France, Greece, and Turkey). All anise liquors, none of which I can stand.

      Guess I’ll go all Euell Gibbons and nosh on pine needles and fiddleheads.

      Or not.

      • Roh-Dog says:

        I loves me a splash in coffee with whole milk.
        It’s like a favored creamer but for men.
        (It’s hard reaching past the whiskey tho)

    • 26Limabeans says:

      Found an old bottle of Acyclovir left over
      from a Shingles episode.
      Will trade for toilet paper.

      • Poetrooper says:

        Beans, your mention of shingles reminds me of an interesting side story to show how little we really know about virus transmission.

        Back many years ago Miz Poe and I lived in the little mountain resort town of Ruidoso, NM, taking care of her aging parents who lived on the golf course and liked to get together with their small circle of elderly friends every Friday evening in the club house for drinks and dinner.

        When Miz Poe began experiencing some neural pain in her torso, my previous medical training led me to immediately suspect shingles which her doctor quickly confirmed. Thankfully, her antiviral treatment controlled it before it could get too painfully out of hand.

        However, over the course of the next few months, four other women from that small Friday social group developed full-blown shingles, one of them, a fragile older woman, with a very severe persistent case.

        Knowing that the causative herpes zoster virus was supposed to be contagious only in its chickenpox iteration and not as shingles, I emailed one of the nation’s leading shingles experts, a research physician in Boston to report this anomaly of an apparent cluster outbreak of a supposedly non-contagious disease.

        That doctor responded immediately, informing me that while being rare, other such cluster outbreaks had been reported occasionally and there was no medical explanation for them–the conventional medical wisdom was (and still is) that shingles is not contagious.

        Sitting here typing this, common sense tells me that virus was transmitted somehow among those five women. The odds of a coincidental, nearly simultaneous occurrence in such a small target population are beyond astronomical.

        The fact that medical science can’t account for such epidemiological anomalies with an old much-studied virus like herpes zoster, tells me we still have much to learn about the possible human transmission routes of these new viral entities like Wuhan virus.

        • David says:

          That almost got me divorced many years ago… wife developed shingles shortly after I returned home from TDY at Benning and assumed it was a different variant. I’m not sure she ever accepted the facts.

          This was a few years before living in Cloudcroft – we may have been neighbors!

        • 11B-Mailclerk says:

          Since Shingles is a pre-existing virus, the cluster may be from a common trigger. This could be environmental or another infectious agent of minimal impact.

          Or, a coincidence.

          • Poetrooper says:

            Of course I long ago considered the common trigger but more in the sense of some unknown vector having its origin in the herpes zoster virus itself as it sheds.

            As for coincidence–just too coincidental…

            • 11B-Mailclerk says:

              Given a wide enough sample population, one may observe statistical “clumps”. It is an oddity that turns up in all sorts of large-group studies.

              It can also happen in small samples that occur in a clump.

              So it is a thing.

              On the other hand, if you congregate a bunch of similar subjects, say ” old folks with enough life issues to make a community living option reasonable”, then a subtle trigger can have a profound impact.

        • 26Limabeans says:

          I’m one of those rare cases where it
          recurs many years apart.
          Interesting experience you described as
          I always thought it was not contagious
          but there have it.
          You can give give someone Chickenpox
          though if they never had it as a child.

          The leftover Zovirax has been used to
          stop a cold dead if taken early.
          I have no data to cite other than my
          own experience. You can bet I will use
          it on the Corona monster if needed.

  4. Comm Center Rat says:

    Yes, there is always a solution, but at what cost and who profits?

    F$*K PHARMA. Live Straight Edge!

    • JTB says:

      Ogvernment Regulations are the problem…

      • Commissar says:

        Yeah, we should go back to en era when anyone could make medicine or slap slop into a bottle and call it a “cure all.”

        I mean market forces would eventually punish bad actors. When enough customers died and enough people learned about customer deaths they will stop buying the product.

        Until it is put into a different color bottle with a new label.

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          We didn’t say to repeal ALL Government Regulations, just a host of the stupid and/or redundant ones.

          • Fyrfighter says:

            Yeah, nice straw man there huh API? In his fevered mind, most everything is an all or nothing proposition…

            • 11B-Mailclerk says:

              Regulations were preventing testing.

              Oops.

              Regulations currently greatly restrict who can make and sell hand sanitizer. We want it to be real stuff, not repurposed French fry grease with a dash of bleach. But we also do not want a 25 year process to make sure a Pharmacist knows how to compound it properly.

              “More” is not necessarily “better” for regulation.

  5. ChipNASA says:

    As long as they don’t run out of Chloroquine….(According to M*A*S*H)

    “Back in his office, Potter flies off the handle when he thinks Klinger ordered the wrong medicine needed to preemptively deal with the Malaria problem – they’re stuck with Primaquine instead of Chloroquine. After blowing his stack, Hawkeye finds a letter enclosed that HQ was out of Chloroquine, so they sent the other, less effective drug, instead.

    Primaquine is just a suppressant, not the cure …plus, it also has negative side effects for “Negroes.” But it will have to do. Potter, chastened, apologizes to Klinger.

    https://mash.fandom.com/wiki/The_Red/White_Blues_(TV_series_episode)

  6. JacktheJarhead says:

    But you don’t hear this on the MSM. Why?

    • Roh-Dog says:

      This whole thing has secondary effects, like the ability to spin this as ‘mismanagement by the CiC’.
      The MSM is the enemy of the people.
      Especially since this was hypothesized two gd months ago…

  7. Poetrooper says:

    As we’re finding out, there may be multiple efficacious treatments for this particular bug:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/one-more-treatment.php

  8. Poetrooper says:

    Here’s a very interesting article on the mathematics of epidemics:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/13/the-math-of-epidemics/

    I was unfamiliar with the Gompertz Curve and must say that its application to the South Korean epidemic would seem to offer encouragement that this Wuhan Virus (up yours Libs!) may be self-limiting. The article is a very interesting read.

  9. Jay says:

    I dunno. I work in the local government’s social services building here and see, shall we say…not the most “HEALTHY” of society. I’ve been glad handed, coughed on, and generally TOUCHED more than I like to be. I don’t DO much in regards to health care but I DO do this:
    Drink a gallon of water a day, take zinc and Vitamin D daily, workout like an asshole daily (I dont wanna be fat), and wash my hands like a good boy. I haven’t had as much as a SNIFF over the past month. YMMV

  10. Comm Center Rat says:

    The PDRofMA county I live in has 14 confirmed Coronavirus cases already. Our regional hospital has furloughed 150 employees for quarantine after possible exposure to patients who tested positive for Coronavirus. Over 50 temporary nurses have been hired to backfill. The Massachusetts governor has declared a State of Emergency closing all public and private schools, restaurants, bars, etc. Take out and delivered orders are still permitted for now.

    As an isolationist living on my four acre compound for many years before this crisis, my life hasn’t really changed. But for many folks its gonna be a brand new way of life filled with inconvenience and stress.

    I’m keeping our healthcare workers in my prayers, especially my SIL who is an RN at the regional hospital.

    Be smart, keep safe TAH brothers & sisters!

  11. Quarantine all of the lame stream media without their mikes, and the virus should go away.

  12. borderbill says:

    I saw someplace: The best emergency supplies are what you have.

  13. Denise Williams says:

    There are more than a few problems with chloroquine, other than coronary, hepatic and nephrotic involvement. Like, psychiatric. These are among the reasons for the continued search for more effective antimalarials, which is how we ended up with mefloquine, brand name Lariam…which doesn’t have the coronary, hepatic or nephrotic contraindications but has significantly higher psychiatric ones. This, btw, was developed under the first ever public-private partnership with drug companies, hence the lack of Phase III testing. Unless you consider giving it to hundreds of thousands of our military as Phase III. But, I digress.

    All quinine based drugs have antiviral properties and even now, we don’t know why. So, perhaps as a prophylactic for those with severe vulnerabilities to this corona virus, it may be worth the risks. That is, if it can be tolerated. But as a vaccine or prophylactic for the masses, the vast majority of whom will be asymptomatic or will have mild cases? It may be safer, and we may be better off in the long run, by allowing the population to develop natural antibodies. Just my half pence worth.

  14. IDC SARC says:

    funny how the web always haz the easy fix for everythng….caveat emptor

  15. Combat Historian says:

    POTUS just announced that FDA has fast-tracked approval of hydroxychloroquine for use in treatment of wuhan corona infectious cases, with close tracking of treatment and use to test and confirm the effectiveness of said medicine and regimen. This is where the rubber meets the road; keep the prayers up and the fingers crossed…