Suspect Shot at Navy Commissary
Suspect shot in the Oceana Commissary parking lot. Suspected domestic violence. (Madison Pearman/WAVY)
Navy security shot a suspect related to a suspected domestic violence incident. The suspect sustained non-life-threatening injuries.
This was before I went to this same commissary. The police vehicles were still there when I arrived. They had two sections of the parking lot cordoned off. The police in the area were smiling and in high moral. Saw one of the police officers walking with Navy Security in the commissary. The Sailor was holding what looked like pastries. The police were still there when I left the commissary.
From Wavy.com:
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) — Navy Criminal Investigative Services and Virginia Beach Police are investigating after a shooting in the Oceana Commissary parking lot Saturday evening.
Officials say they received a call for a suspected domestic violence incident around 3:30 p.m.
Navy Security Forces responded to the call and found the suspect in the parking lot of the Oceana Commissary. Shortly after arrival, Security Forces shot the suspect.
The suspect was taken to a local hospital with injuries that aren’t life-threatening.
This incident is being investigated jointly by NCIS and the Virginia Beach Police Department.
Employees like Autumn Ramos and other customers say they heard a commotion outside and then heard a shot which sent panic through the building.
“I was just casually bagging my groceries helping out another customer then all of a sudden I heard someone say active shooter,” she said.
WAVY News initially received tips of an active shooter in the area, but a spokesperson with the Navy confirmed that wasn’t true.
Although Ramos and customers inside thought it was at first. She says they jumped into action and hid in the back of the store.
“I was pretty nervous I was panicking a bit, so I ran with my friend and he tried to cover me because I have never been in this kind of situation before,” she said.
Wavy.com has the article here.
Category: Navy
Of course the police were still there. Dontcha see, the sailor was holding pastries.
Hey d^ckwad, get over it. She’s just not into you anymore.
Must be a new breed of LEOs down in Virginia. They seemingly prefer pastries over donuts. Up here in the PDRofMA cops still overwhelmingly gorge on donuts at Dunkin Donuts stores. Then again, Dunkin is a Massachusetts company. When I lived in NOVA many years ago the 50s seemed to frequent Krispy Kreme franchises.
Those pastries could have been doughnuts. I didn’t see what was inside the big pastry box that the woman was holding, just that it was a big pastry box. So I used “pastry” rather than assume doughnuts.
When I first read the story I thought is said the sailor was holding PASTIES. Was hoping for a photo….
FWIW: this incident did not happen on-base at NAS Oceana. Unless it’s been moved recently or the base security perimeter has been extended, the Oceana Commissary – like many commissaries associated with Navy installations – is outside the base security perimeter and on property that is open to the general public.
It is not even next to the NEX on the base drive. Moved down Oceana Blvd over 10 years ago.
Yep. The NEX is close enough to the NAS that Navy MPs would very likely be the first LE on site in case of an incident. I’d guess it’s about a coin-toss whether Navy MPs or local Virginia Beach police would get to the Oceana Commissary first during an incident.
If gunfire, something that could lead to gunfire, is not involved, they’d usually let the Navy MPs handle the situation. If gunfire is involved, the Navy MPs would address the issue until the VBPD arrive, then they’d support the police department. I’ve seen Navy MPs at the NEX and even saw them doing their exercises on PX grounds.
The Navy MPs would usually be the first to respond to incidents on the commissary and PX as their precinct is on the base and they have a bulk of their assets there. They’re closer than the closet VBPD precinct.
So I see people saying Navy MP (Military Police). Having been in the Army that is what we call them, but I thought the Navy called them SP (Shore Patrol), and the Air Force calls them Security Forces (AFSF). Is the Navy calling them MPs now as well, or is this just Army personnel commenting on Navy folks?
The Navy calls them Security Forces as well; no longer Shore Patrol.
The Navy has a “Master at Arms” rating that corresponds with the Army’s MP MOS. “Navy MP” is just an easier way to make it less Squid speak. The Shore Patrol used to be made up of various personnel assigned to the duty, and not necessarily all MAAs. (The SP Duty Chief/ Senior PO in charge of the SPs was usually a MAA)
At least as far as I remember. It’s been a while. LOL
I’ve been in both, the Navy and the Army. I use “MP” as that’s how I refer to them now. I also called them “Navy Security Force” and “Master at Arms” on this thread.
To add to the confusion the Marines call them “PMs”- Provost Marshals.
We call the MP’s a lot of things – none of them flattering. I believe “shore patrol” now is dedicated to the poor slobs who get drafted to police the sailors and Marines on liberty when a ship pulls into port.
Which is why the VA Beach Police were on the scene.
They have a line painted on the road leading into the base entries that divide responsibility between the state and federal law enforcement.
In the bases in this area, they have a blue line crossing the road’s width, parallel to the entry, that divides which law enforcement is responsible. Between the line and the entry control point, the MPs take the lead. Outside the line it’s the state/local law enforcement.
NCIS is investigating due to this taking place at the commissary parking lot and the involvement of the Navy Master at Arms (Navy MPs). The Virginia Beach Police Department is investigating as this is their AO.
Usually for incidents that take place inside the base, the state lets the military take the lead with regards to investigation. They still share information and joint jurisdiction on the base.
All commissaries are government property. Navy and DOD Police are responsible for security.
From GAO 17-80:
Also, according to DeCA officials, unlike commercial grocery stores, DeCA does not pay rent for the use of commissary buildings because DOD owns the facilities, although the agency pays for store construction and maintenance with funds from the 5 percent
surcharge.
The Navy and the Commonwealth of Virginia have a joint jurisdiction agreement with regards to Navy bases and property.
This particular commissary is outside of the base itself, in an area that’s the state’s responsibility. This is a reason to why the VBPD is investigating the incident.
It’s proximity to the base lends itself to Navy Security’s being the first to respond, and to provide the security. This may be an area where the 2nd Precinct is okay with Navy police vehicles entering their precinct in order to check on the PX and Commissary.
As an aside, I just wanted to inform anyone who may have a service related disability, (from 0 to 100%) that as of 1/1/2020 they now have Commissary and Exchange privileges, just like the retired folks. All you need to show is your VA Health ID and have the words “Service Related” on it to gain access. Alas, I don’t live anywhere near a military base, but, who knows? I may drop by Kingsbay just for the hell of it next time I drive down to Jax.
I have a VA Health ID with “Service Connected” on it, but I use my retired reserve ID card to get in.
From what I have read, “service related” is not required.
https://www.va.gov/health-care/eligibility/
There is no Service Connected requirement to get the card, or Health care from the VA, but there is to get the new PX and Commissary access. https://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/67974/commissary-military-service-exchange-mwr-access-extended-veterans-beginning-january/
If you already have a “Retired” ID, you don’t need it as you have always had access and you can simply continue to use that ID.