Update on Bergdahl (again)
Girl and gun dog
Bergdahl gets more attention re: “undue command influence” by candidate Trump and Sen. McCain. You do not want to know what I think he should get.
During the proceedings, while Trump was a presidential candidate, he called Bergdahl a “dirty rotten traitor” and suggested the soldier be executed by firing squad or thrown out of an airplane over Afghanistan without a parachute.
After he became president, Trump made several references to those comments and McCain threatened hearings if Bergdahl received no punishment.
As a result, Bergdahl’s defense team, led by veteran military defense attorney Eugene Fidell, appealed, saying the comments constituted unlawful command influence and were so pervasive, Bergdahl didn’t receive a fair trial or post-trial processing.
But while the comments may have been improper, Army Court of Criminal Appeals judges said, the ruling in Bergdahl’s case was “fair and unprejudiced” and should remain in place. – article
Category: "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", Army
What no mention of Susan Rice calling him a war hero? How about Obama inviting his family to the White House and praising them!
He should have been busted to EIOU 1 and Hard labor!
“Obama inviting his family to the White House and praising them!”
I had forgotten that. It seems SO MANY crazy things have happened since then my CPU had to make room for other lefty wackiness.
Now anyone can go over the hill and dale and get away with it.
someone send this guy hunting with Dick Cheney…LOL
Background please.
Cheny once shot a huntingg partner with birdshot. I think they were after doves.
The story went….
Cheney didn’t shoot him.
He just “peppered” him.
Yeah, like when The Three Stooges saw turkeys…
that turned out to Indians with head feathers.
One of the times former Vice-president Dick Cheney went pheasant hunting, he shot another hunter in the face: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney_hunting_accident
Thanks Graybeard and The AI.
Please Dick, not in the face!
I’m so glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read this!
Only if Dick uses 00 buckshot this time.
If Ted *HICCUP!* Kennedy was still alive I’d say that Bowe Bergdahl and Bradley Manning have to ride with *HICCUP!* Kennedy as the driver!
We can always have Bergdahl roll with Bobby Frank (I ain’t calling him “Beto” under ANY circumstances, he ain’t Hispanic).
Why do you keep posting that picture of that dog?
What dog?
Is that a Stevens double?
I’d go with an Izh side-by-side. Very nice and priced-right Rooshian guns.
It’s a spaniel. They’re known to bite people they don’t like.
What’s not to like? In 20 years she will be a fine looking woman.
^Word^ And in 20 years those of us who are not dead will be too decrepit to even see her clearly. The puppy dog is prolly older than she is.
On bergie butt boi, eff him and eff the POS that swapped terrorists for his traitorous chicken sh^t self. Firing squad is too good for that sorry POS. Hang him and hang the POS that actually used undue command influence to get him back to US control. And eff the people on the comment page for the linked article that made him out to be the big hero.
Some may recall that we had the funeral service for one of the true heros that was wounded trying to find this POS just a few weeks ago here in Georgia. Wonder how that family and the ones that lost members KIA looking for his deserting ass feel?
Speak for yourself, KOB. Engineers never get too old, we’re eternal.
Or is it infernal?
I forget…
Pappy, we need the Engineers to be at the top of their form. Somebody has to replace the goal posts and build Navy a new anal orifice after that gridiron competition drubbing that they will take coming up next month.
Well, someone’s gotta keep that fire and brimstone machinery in Hades functioning . . . . (smile)
Damn right. I’m of the opinion that there are Engineers who are tormenting Joachim Peiper as we speak, with him howling “ Die verdamten Pionere!” for all eternity.
One thing is for sure and it’s that every day Bergdahl wakes up knowing that Friends, Family and Buddies of those lost are out there and the World still knows who he is and what he did, he’ll have to spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder. I doubt that Bowe Bergdahl could even get a bowl of lukewarm chili in Elko NV!
Bowe Bergdahl, Democrats’ only war hero.
Another fine test media for efficacy of defensive handgun ammo.
Interesting blog that covers military justice (hold all jokes until the end)
Bergdahl would seem to have preempted his own appeal by originally pleading guilty WITHOUT A PRETRIAL AGREEMENT.
But I’m not a lawyer so what do I know
https://www.caaflog.com/2019/11/05/caaf-grants-review-in-bergdahl-to-determine-if-an-accused-who-pleads-guilty-to-serious-offenses-receives-the-punishment-he-requested-and-does-not-seek-clemency-is-entitled-to-relief-from-an/
He didn’t keep to his oath. Why expect him to keep to a plea?
Shitbags gonna shitbag.
a naked plea and waiver of clemency request? What a maroon
Firing squad and bill his family for the bullets.
No. I think he’s too much of a disgrace for that. Just bury him alive and be done with it.
*Pulls up on a feral backhoe*
Did someone need a hole dug?
*Revs Caterpillar engine*
How about being pulled apart by horses. I believe there are some at Ft Hood and/or Ft Meyer. Just a thought…
A firing squad is a military death with some degree of dignity. Bergdahl the Deserter (and Apparent Turncoat) doesn’t deserve that.
What he deserves is to be hanged like a common criminal.
Hangin’s too good for ‘im!
Buuuurnin’s too good for ‘im!
He should be torn into littlebitty pieces! And buried alive!
(A classic…)
Gang-banged by gorillas……
May Bowe Bergdahl get ass-raped to death by a Grizzly Bear with AIDS and the sonofabitch that was mean enough to give it to him!
I think Bergdahl is a deserter and traitor, and he deserved much worse than he got. I think and hope he will lose this appeal, mainly, as Stacy0311 posted above, he got exactly the sentence he asked for.
But.
The president’s tweet on Bergdahl needlessly endangered this process. There was a lot to lose, and nothing for him to gain (other than political points).
This is rookie stuff. He should know better.
This should be reported to Admin–obviously someone with common sense is posting as SteeleyI.
Ed? Ed? You out there, Ed?
Ol’ Poetrooper, glad you have finally seen the light. Now, we just need to see what ROE they were operating under.
From the MT article: “Bergdahl told filmmaker Mark Boal that he left his post to call attention to his unit, which he felt was poorly managed.”
That’s really some justification for desertion on the battlefield, hmm? Like most young soldiers, when I was on my first enlistment, and still a card-carrying, know-it-all, wise-ass member of the E-4 Mafia, I typically felt my units were “poorly managed” but I sure as hell didn’t consider that grounds for desertion.
Leavenworth forever…the capital punishment he so richly deserves would only serve to make him a liberal martyr vying with Che Guevara for eternal life on smelly lefty T-shirts.
I highly recommend the Serial podcast DUSTWUN (I think it is Season 2) about Bergdahl. If you had any doubts you will come away clearly understanding that Bergdahl’s story was made up after the fact.
In reality Bergdahl is a very strange young man, and his father failed him by giving him no moral compass. He thought he was the smartest man in the battalion, he thought he was better than the men in his platoon, and he admired the Taliban (probably right up until they locked him in a cage for two weeks).
I worked Personnel Recovery in Iraq for a while, and most of the missions turned out to be troops hiding from work. Kind of like this guy, but on land:
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/12/30/exclusive-how-peter-mims-spent-a-week-hiding-in-a-warships-engine-room/
This was more common than you would like to think on the big FOBs in Iraq. We had one that went on for a few days before the Soldier’s boyfriend came forward and said she was hiding from her husband, also on the same FOB.
Yeah, because nobody is better qualified in how to manage (lead) an infantry rifle company in a combat zone than a PFC or a spec-4.
I bet that Bergdahl couldn’t even get himself a lukewarm can of generic canned chili in Elko NV and may the day he was born be erased from the calendar!
I’m not keeping up with the POS’s status. Is he serving jail time or not???
No, he is out because the military judge gave him a sentence that basically equaled his time served in restricted to post non-confinement. He is still on active duty while his appeal is pending, I believe. His sentence was a not-so-funny joke. I defended an AWOL soldier in Germany who received a stiffer sentence after conviction in a special court martial.
I heard tell that while that POS was kept on Fort Sam that anywhere he went people automatically got up and left whether it was a Gym, a Burger King, you name it.
I wish him a long lifetime of that. Public shunning.
May he spend his life lonely, shunned and forgotten.
There will be a demented stank hippy that will love him and send him emails of love.
That would be his father.
I may have missed something in context, but for one to say “Ol’ Poetrooper, you have finally seen the light”…oh, man.
I trust the TAH group will correct my possible error of interpretation.
If not, get the popcorn and beverages.
Thanks, Doc. Actually I was pokin’ a little fun at him and I think he missed it. However, I am glad to see that he doesn’t let his Trump derangement entirely blind him to what a piece of crap Bergdahl and his family are.
I do wonder what he thinks about Trump’s predecessor’s Rose Garden adulation of this combat deserter and his feckless family, and if that nationally televised event didn’t rise to the level of undue command influence?
I’m also curious regarding that username–is it meant to convey an image of cool, dispassionate reasoning? If so, his TDS tends to belie that. If he was chasing down AWOL’s on FOB’s perhaps he’s MP and referencing that flat-eyed look of utter disbelief that only cops (Well, and senior NCO’s) are capable of.
Whatever, I believe we all need to be challenged in our comfort zones occasionally as long as our detractors don’t employ that terrible liberal tendency to frequently condescend–humorous prodding is fine, but sneering lefty superiority sucks, especially coming from fellow veterans.
If Steeley’s a vet who just leans a bit more left than most who lurk here, so be it. If he wants to defend liberal views, perhaps he’ll fade some of the heat from Lars who by now must have so many holes in him he looks like he has frequent carnal congress with pissed-off porcupinettes.
No, I got it. I was poking fun back at you. Personal Recovery is not chasing down AWOLS. PR is finding and recovering Isolated Persons. Anything from teams that are E&E after being compromised to hostages and prisoners and lost convoys. It encompasses traditional Combat Search and Rescue and other techniques to find and r cover good guys surrounded by bad guys. A Personnel Recovery event often starts with a DUSTWUN (Duty Status Whereabouts Unknown) report. A convoy gets hit, and when the get back to the FOB they realize one vehicle took a wrong turn and didn’t make it back. A patrol comes up one short at a checkpoint. A troop doesn’t report in after an IDF attack. They could be dead, captured, wounded, or just lost. Either way, when we can’t account for a troop we start the Peronnel Recovery system to find them through all source intel and recover them through direct action. I thought Obama had an inept and fumbling foreign policy, and the event with Bergdahls father was an indicator of that. Bergdahls father grew the beard and tried to learn Pashtun because he thought he gain sympathy for his son. Obama tried to support that. The Haqqanni Network who held Bowe was just in it for the money and prestige and saw all of that as weakness to be exploited. I do feel that we had to get Bergdahls back- despite his actions, Bergdahls was an American Soldier. I think he should have been swiftly tried and separated. I don’t really care about punishment- nothing will buy back the time, blood, and treasure lost. I just don’t want him to be able to claim the title ‘Soldier’ or benefit from his crimes. I am by no means a lefty. I am a combat veteran who has had the opportunity to look behind the curtain at how the Great and Powerful Wizard of the military actually works. My first ten years were spent at the lower tactical level in infantry units (mostly airborne, just like Poetrooper). I was in DS/DS, which was essentially a conventional… Read more »
The thing I’ll never understand (because it’s pure Orange Man Bad) is that if the president says the guy should be executed, but he’s released for time served, then how the fuck was the president influencing anything? Now if he was sentenced to be tossed out a plane with no chute, I’d give it them that maybe they took the president too literally and thus unfairly influenced things.
Ditto