The Seventh Amendment…

| August 7, 2019

7th amendment

Veritas Omnia Vincit sends us his thoughts on one of the lessor recognized Amendments, the Seventh. Taken at face value, it codifies the right to a jury trial in certain civil cases. But more importantly, it inhibits the courts from overturning a jury’s findings of fact. Here’s VOV:

…or Should We Keep This Outdated Idea?

Veritas Omnia Vincit

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

This one is another amendment that seems rather simple at first glance, and for the most part it is, yet a little history expands our understanding of this amendment and reinforces the founders concern over property abuse by government. There is no tradition of Civil Juries in Europe or Latin America, or Asia. Even in England and its former colonies it’s mostly been abolished. However our civil jury system is in fact rooted in Old English law where certain cases not tried by the Chancery (a juryless court system deciding matters of property, equity such as trusts and land law) were instead given to courts where those not trained in legal matters could decide matters of law regarding civil cases. Where this came into play during the 18th century was the increasing tension between England and her American colonies and matters of civil law. Juries became increasingly reluctant to find in favor of laws enacted in England without colonial representation, and those juries became a way for the American colonists to nullify English law in civil matters here in the colonies.

As the struggle for independence grew and took a more rebellious and warlike nature most of the leaders of the revolution remembered those jury trials as a way of keeping the government under control by allowing common citizens the power to nullify those laws they found unjust. Interestingly enough by the time the Constitutional Convention came around in 1787 the Federalists among the founders were concerned that regarding civil matters that those civil juries had been far too sympathetic to debtors which led the Federalists to fear that these civil juries would nullify laws of contract. Thus the original presentation of the Constitution to the states did not include this seventh amendment’s right to civil jury trials. The anti-Federalists at the state levels protested that lack of the right to a civil jury trial and they had strong concerns about over arching government actions that would be incapable of being nullified in any court system if the citizens of the nation were excluded from the court process. There was now a very valid concern that a second Constitutional Convention might need to be called, consequently James Madison quickly drafted what became the seventh amendment as we know it today.

This amendment also only has two clauses as far as legal scholars are concerned, the Preservation clause ”In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved” and the Re-Examination clause, “and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.” The preservation clause simply means what kinds of cases juries are required to decide while the far more important re-examination clause carries the weight of the amendment by preventing any federal judge from overturning these civil case jury findings.

In practice the civil jury trial uses a jury in less than 2-3% of all cases and some estimates today indicate that perhaps that number has dropped to 1% or less. Largely due to the expense involved with civil jury trials and the relatively unpredictable nature of a jury hearing different sides and reaching some manner of conclusion. It’s created in the legal profession a sense that settling after an agreement is a far better option to resolve these cases because of that expensive unpredictability. Ms. Renee Lettow Lerner a professor of law at George Washington University Law School has advocated for the repeal of the seventh and a better focus on investigative options to find the true facts in these cases in order to come to a fair finding.

While I respect Ms. Lerner’s much larger understanding of the law and her years of teaching that larger understanding, I find on principle that we should never repeal any amendment that leaves some of the power against the government in the hands of the American people. Perhaps the true power of this amendment is the unpredictable nature and the expense of getting to that unpredictable outcome. That threat of an unknown, unpredictable outcome has driven lawyers on opposing sides of these issues to reach a settlement that is agreeable to each of the parties to these actions. That minimizes the amount of time the courts are tied up with hearing these cases, and actually speeds up the process. One might argue that the parties reaching a settlement they both find acceptable is more beneficial to our society as well as once the matter is settled both parties feel the matter is now in the past and we move forward from that point without litigation hanging in the balance for years as it slogs through the court system.

The Seventh Amendment may indeed be another of the “lesser, or no longer needed” amendments, or it may in fact be the motivator for adversarial litigants to find common ground that is acceptable rather than proceed through the courts.

As with all these essays, this is hardly a scholarly article, just the ramblings of a layman whose interpretation of these concepts are solely my own informed by the random readings I find scattered throughout the wasteland of the modern internet. I hope it initiates a curiosity in our readers to explore these concepts from their own world view and consider the importance of a public at least somewhat cognizant of how the nation was founded and why some of these laws and amendments were written in the manner they were at that time.

Thank you as always for your time and your thoughts.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Thanks, V, for another thought provoking essay. A jury’s findings must have commonly been subject to re-examination, or the Founders wouldn’t have crafted an Amendment forbidding its practice.

Category: America, Guest Post, Legal, The Constitution

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Ex-PH2

I think it would be a FINE idea to reinstate a requirement that students graduating from high school have to past both a state and US constitution in order to graduate.

We had to pass both in my state. I don’t know if anyone had that requirement but if legal immigrants have to do it to get citizenship, why not expect it of the rest of the population? Maybe they’d value being here a little more.

USMCMSgt (Ret)

In the high school I attended in Texas, the “Civics and Government” class was a prerequisite to graduation and wasn’t an elective. It was offered to Juniors and Seniors. I don’t believe that’s part of the curriculum anymore.

One of the best classes offered, and it was taught well.

Ron Patton

We need to do this with the election process if a candidate can’t pass the test he can not be on the ballot

Kerry

Agree. I had to pass them twice. From Jr High to HS, then Hs

Mason

I’d say if one 2-3% of cases go to a jury in civil cases, then the amendment still serves a purpose.

GDContractor

As of 22 January 2018, I think you will find the number of civil suits going to trial has radically decreased.

OAE CPO USN Ret

The lawn dart event.

11B-Mailclerk

There is Justice in that forgetting.

rgr769

I would like to see where that stat comes from. If it is based on all civil cases filed, including domestic relations cases, then I would believe it. I say this becuase as most of us who are/were civil litigators know that only about five percent of civil cases go to trial. Most are either settled or dismissed by dispositive motions (no trial). In the civil cases I tried, about two thirds were tried without a jury, and one third were jury trials. But many of the non-jury trials were ones where there was no right to a jury trial, and in a few, the jury was waived by both parties shortly before the start of the trial.

rgr769

I should add that if VOV is claiming only about 2% of civil cases that go to trial are jury trials, and his stat excludes cases where there is no right to a jury trial, then I believe that statistic is bogus. Invariably, when significant amounts of money are involved, one side or both want a jury to decide the case. Anyway, that has been my experience in being involved in civil litigation for almost 40 years.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

rgr769, your first assumption is the correct one, the reference is to all civil cases…

Per the American Bar Association — “As with any civil action, a defendant will be confronted…with the question of whether to settle or take the case to trial. The statistics say the answer is almost always “settle.” It is often reported that up to 97 percent of all civil cases end before trial, most (not all) in the form of a settlement….”

The contention made by those law professors discussing repeal was that because 97% of cases already settle or dismiss prior to trial of any kind that the amendment lacks actual value these days. in a perfect world they might be correct. Our world, being far from perfect, leads me to conclude as a simple layman that perhaps it has motivational value to induce settlements and keep the court systems clear of the type of idiocy this very website has been subjected to in the past.

Thanks for keeping me honest.

Mason

All my experience is on the criminal side, and I’d say that it’s a similarly small percentage of criminal charges that go in front of a jury. Maybe 5%. The rest are pleas or bench trials (of which some are not entitled to a jury).

Comm Center Rat

VOV writes “I find on principle that we should never repeal any amendment that leaves some of the power against the government in the hands of the American people.”

An absolutely brilliant statement of why The People of this Republic must always remain a bulwark against subjugation by the federal government.

Anonymous

Keep it– otherwise leftist judges with rule however they feel for “social justice” despite what evidence says.

5th/77th FA

Just because only 1-3% of civil cases wind up in front of a jury, is no reason to do away with the 7th A. Just the threat of a civil suite will generally bring the party to the table to settle the matter.

I agree with the above. The gubmint has already TAKEN many of our rights away from us. No need to give them away too.

Fjardeson

VOV great writing, I look forward to these!

Virtual Insanity

Timely–I had jury duty today!

The Judge took the time to explain to the jury pool that *we* would be the judges…his job was to merely keep the proceedings on track.

Hondo

FWIW: the 7th Amendment appears to be one of the few parts of the Bill of Rights that does not restrict state action. The SCOTUS appears to have ruled over a century ago that the 7th Amendment is not applicable to state court actions.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/241/211/

Stacy0311

Other than the whole Prohibition fiasco, I can’t see the need to repeal any amendments.
Except maybe the one that set voting age at 18. Since you can’t buy alcohol until 21 and idiots are talking about raising the age to purchase guns to 21 it makes sense that voting (which is WAY more dangerous) be restricted to 21 also.

Fyrfighter

The 17th needs repealed as well..

As always great analysis, and looking forward to the rest of them VoV

Ex-PH2

Before the 17th Amendment was enacted, many states in the Union elected Senators through the approval of State Legislation instead of direct election by the citizens of these states.

You want to go back to that kind of thing, instead of the individual vote for senators? I don’t think that’s a good idea at all.

Some Guy

Logically I’d go the other way and lower the alcohol purchase back to 18. Yes, I know that technically it’s not a federal law, but since funding is tied to restriction to 21, all states followed along, making it a de facto national law. Anyway, if we as a society decide that turning 18 makes you an adult and we can entrust you with all the rights and responsibilities that come with that status, then IMO it doesn’t make sense to allow you to get married, join the military, buy property, have guns, smoke, vote, etc., but not have a beer. Either we should reexamine the concept of adulthood and decide whether or not 18 is too early to be considered mature enough to handle life’s freedoms and responsibilities, continue coddling and treating them like children into their 20s, or finally treat adults as adults.
/rant off

Anonymous

Left/libtards want to make it 21 to drink, smoke and own a gun, but 12-year-olds should vote without ID, early and multiple times.

Alfred Somerville

“Anonymous” makes a good point. The lunatics on the Left will bend over backwards to defend the “right” of anyone, even illegal aliens, to vote in our elections, but these hypocrites want to restrict the right of law-abiding native-born Americans to have guns for legal purposes.