Military Gunfire Exchange in Venezuela

| April 30, 2019

Soldiers aim in direction of Maduro’s Soldiers. (AFP/Getty Images)

Juan Guaido, Venezuelan interim president, called on implementing the final push for Nicolas Maduro’s removal. After he appealed to the protesters to join the military in fighting back against Maduro, Soldiers loyal to Guaido took positions. Tear gas was released, and rounds fired.

Maduro’s Soldiers arrived, released tear gas, then fired rounds. Maduro insists that he has total loyalty from the military. He argued this when a high-ranking officer originally defected. He insists on that now despite additional military members now going to Guaido.

From the Daily Mail:

Meanwhile two of the key international allies of Maduro – Bolivia and Cuba – condemned what they described as a coup attempt by violent rebels.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, another key ally of Venezuela that has invested billions in the country’s oil industry, was ‘discussing’ the situation with his top security team.

Protests appeared to be spreading around the country following Guaido’s call, with the leader claiming that people in 24 states had come out to support him.

It comes after years of mis-management have left the country impoverished, wracked by inflation and food shortages, and following Maduro’s ‘victory’ in elections that many decried as rigged.

Guaido called on Venezuelans and the military to join him on the streets, as government vowed to put down what it said was an attempted coup.

Maduro’s words can’t hide the defections towards his opposition. These defections are coming from both the military and from the civilian population. Juan Guaido left the airbase and did a rally confident that he had the support of a large percent of the population.

Tomorrow is May Day, more march and demonstration events are expected.

You can read more at the Daily Mail.

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ChipNASA

Welcome back TAH. Shit’s about to get real down there.

Ex-PH2

It was my cats. I promise, I will NEVER, EVER let them get on the internet again!

In regard to Guaido v. Maduro, if the military is defecting to Guaido even a few at a time, Maduro’s notion that Russia will help him keep his clutches on the “throne” are misplaced.

Russia/Putin really does not wish to engage in a war with us. If the memory of their losses in Afghanistan don’t still sting, I will give up being sarcastic for 24 hrs.

Slow Joe

I thought Juan Guaido is a socialist too…?

So, doesn’t that means that Guaido v. Maduro is like socialist vs socialist?

Mason

He’s a tad less socialist. He just hasn’t been given the power to be an evil dictator.

In ten years we’ll be hearing about the horrors brought by the Guaidó regime and how horrible Trump’s administration was for supporting him.

GDContractor

Those people are so fucht they don’t even know how fucht they are. They’re destitute and starving. The only opposition politician that can get any traction will be the one selling the biggest fantasy of free shit. Starving, broke people don’t want to hear that it’s time to get to work and pull themselves up by their own bootstraps under some necessary austerity program. What they want is all the free shit they were promised. They’re just looking for the right guy to deliver it to them.

And behold, what you’re looking at is the inevitable future of the USA. Goddammit.

Ex-PH2

According to one political article I read on the interwebs, Argentina’s economy is slowly imploding into economic depression and Brazil is not too far behind. I’m trying to figure out why Belize and some of the other countries aren’t having these issues, but they aren’t.

Am I surprised at the chaos going on in Venezuela now? No, I just wondered how long it would take to start.

Cameron Kingsley

Oh boy. This is not going to end well.

A Proud Infidel®™️

I concur. It’s like something I remember from a high school textbook discussing Central and South American politics, something like this:
“In Country ‘A’, Generalissimo ‘B’ rules, he is a Dictator.
Colonel ‘C’ rebels, the people back him.
Generalissimo ‘B’ flees with all the money.
The country is broke, they must start over.
Colonel ‘C’ takes over as leader, the Army makes him a General.
General ‘C’ awards himself the rank and title of ‘Generalissimo”.
Ten years go by and Generalissimo ‘C’ is dictator.
Colonel ‘D’ rebels, the people back him.
Generalissimo ‘C’ flees with all the money.
The country is broke, they must start over again…”

Cameron Kingsley

I hope it doesn’t turn out like Syria or even our own Civil War where it is just a long brutal slog fest. Especially when it’s in our own backyard. Doesn’t mean that I believe we should intervene (I am positive that both sides are equally dirty), but we can’t afford to ignore it either as that is fertile ground for groups similar to the IRA, FARC (Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Columbia or the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia in English), and ISIS to develop and flourish.

NHSparky

And yet somehow the leftards blame us for their shitpile.

Sapper3307

Its Bernie Sanders America.

Mason

If they want to defeat Maduro they have to just go and do it. All this dancing around for months does nothing but allow each side to sink in and build defenses.

They were probably waiting for Team America World Police to send some Rangers and the 82nd in to do the fighting for their civil war for them.

IDC SARC

Are they trying to get shot…because that looks like the way you get shot.

AW1Ed

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss…

Hack Stone

Isn’t that the Iranian National Anthem?

5th/77th FA

The.very.best.rock.and.roll.Band.and.song.evah…

Prove me wrong!….I’m waiting.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

I watched the mil. armoured vehicle run over some of the protesters in the street earlier today.

Ex-PH2

Here’s a link to the Fox News report WITH the video of the AV running over some people in the crowd.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuela-uprising-turns-violent-after-military-armored-vehicle-seen-plowing-into-crowd-of-opposition-supporters

Sapper3307

The guys on the bikes mostly Cuban Security goons on lone. And their is a large contingent of “Russian patriots on vacation” guarding the final boss.
Allegedly

Andy11M

And to think back in 2012 Venezuela passed a law taking guns away from private citizens. Now why would a socialist paradise (according to Sean Penn) have to do that?

A Proud Infidel®™️

Could it be because Socialism is such a terrific form of Government that it has to be enforced at gunpoint?

5th/77th FA

Wonder is Maduro has already loaded up all the National “Crown Jewels” on the Russkie transport aircraft yet?

GDContractor

Here’s a good article about the trajectory of Argentina. I agree with the author’s logic and conclusions. We’re all in a race to the bottom.
https://www.dollarcollapse.com/argentina-stabilize-bankrupt/

Slow Joe

Interesting article.
Tooo long though.

I stopped reading at “price controls”.
Price controls are an intervention in the economy by the government and will fix nothing.

The same old history in Argentina. They try a little bit of free market policies, they fail, and they declare capitalism doesn’t work and elect the next socialist president.

Argentina will always be poor.

GDContractor

You should have read the concluding paragraphs.

“Here’s the key sentence: “Mr. Macri borrowed heavily in global markets as he tried to slowly restore the government’s finances. He sought in that way to avoid the deep spending cuts and ensuing social unrest that led to the removal of past presidents during previous economic shocks.”

When a country’s debts reach a certain point, “austerity” — that is, lowering spending to shrink deficits — causes so much pain to a population that has become addicted to easy credit and generous benefits, that the politician implementing it is kicked out and replaced with whoever promises the most free stuff. And the debt binge continues.

Europe found this out after trying to force peripheral EU countries to meet low deficit targets. The result is populists and/or socialists in charge of most of the biggest debtor countries.

Macri seems to have recognized the risk of austerity but discovered that borrowing more money to avoid spending cuts is simply business as usual under a different name.

Meanwhile, here in the US, from a financial standpoint it hardly matters who’s in charge after 2020 because massive spending increases are now the consensus, with the only argument being over which things we buy with all that borrowed money.

Put another way, Argentina is now the future of the developed world.”

GDContractor

I was there twice in the ’70s. Inflation so bad that the shopkeepers were changing prices in the shop windows every hour. That’s about the only time in my childhood where I remember my dad letting me order anything I wanted to off of the restaurant menu. The USD was King.

26Limabeans

The Monroe Doctrine. Dust it off.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Another chapter in the book “Socialism Success Stories” by Commie-Tsar!

Ex-PH2

Article on current things in Venezuela is coming up.

Bolton made a brief statement to the press about the uprising. Time to invoke the Monroe Doctrine and kick Russia out.