“Faggot” gets Lt. Col. Marcus J. Mainz fired.
U.S. Marine Corps Lt. Col. Marcus Mainz (left), commanding officer, Battalion Landing Team, 2nd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment (BLT 2/6), 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), walks with Col. Farrell J. Sullivan (right), commanding officer, 26th MEU, after landing in Jordan to observe training during exercise Eager Lion, April 19. (Gunnery Sgt. Eric L. Alabiso II/Marine Corps)
Come on Jimbo, show us some of that Warrior Monk stuff and fix this nonsense. Military Times reports
An infantry battalion commander sacked in the middle of a deployment with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, or MEU, was at least partially fired for allegedly using a term that could be disparaging to members of the LGBTQ community, Marine Corps Times has learned.
Following a vandalism incident during a port call visit by the San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock New York in Gaeta, Italy, Lt. Col. Marcus J. Mainz, the commander of 2nd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, allegedly used the term “faggot” or “faggoty” during a meeting with the 2/6 Battalion Landing Team leaders, multiple sources have told Marine Corps Times.
Corps officials have said Lt. Col. Marcus J. Mainz was fired May 19 over a loss of trust and confidence in his ability to lead.
Several Marines were charged with and punished for underage drinking while on liberty during a port visit in Italy. One of those Marines was also charged with vandalizing a construction site.
People, we all need to keep our heads until this peace craze passes. If so-called “Leaders” turned in a BLT Commander for such nonsense the Corps needs to man the Phuck Up. What the hell is going on in My Marine Corps? Real Marines have been using disparaging terms for everyone forever. Why should the LGBTQ people get special treatment? I was always under the impression we were all equally worthless. Is Dickweed still kosher…or is the Jew-ish thing a no go too? I don’t understand, can somebody please help me?
Category: Disposable Warriors, Dumbass Bullshit
The LBGT cult basically runs this country through its mesh of deep state bureaurats and “court jester judges”, regardless of which administration is in charge. It is what it is…
And what if the guy he was referring to was a faggot?
Then he needs to get over it like the rest us do. The Marine Corps in an “equal opportunity” organization when it comes offending it’s own.
The general gist is “who cares, we’re all Marines”.
And where in the hell is our SecDef – the one who was going to change all of this?
The thing is, if you don’t want to be called a “faggot”, or don’t like the term “faggot”, then DON’T BE A FREAKING FAGGOT! DUH!!! Marine Corps….REINSTATE THAT OFFICER AND APOLOGIZE ALL OVER YOURSELF FOR BEING PUSSIES AND LISTENING TO THE MEDIA AND QUEERS…imho!!
“Several Marines were charged with and punished for underage drinking while on liberty during a port visit in Italy.”
What are things coming to. Underage Marines drinking in Naples. Things have slipped beyond repair.
That was sarcasm. Everyone drinks in Naples. It’s the only thing to do there.
My grandfather was there in the service and was probably drinking as he passed through. Mount Vesuvius was erupting at the time.
http://warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/Vesuvius.html
Marine Corps leadership have become a bunch of snowflake assholes imho!!
So pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile, boys, smile!
Hand me a Lucifer to light my fag. Smile boys all the while!
And throw a few more faggots (of wood) on the fire lads, it’s still a mite chilly. I’m telling you fellas, invest in stocks of butt hurt cream, your new retirement plan.
5th/77. Was going to mention the bundle of wood (Faggots) but I see it’s already mentioned a couple of times.
One of the most noteworthy gliders in WWII (used in the New Guinea rescue of three downed troops from the inaccessible middle of the island) was called the Fanless Faggot
That’s LtCol Mainz on the left in that photo? I will be more than happy to buy him a beer and sympathize with him.
My granddad used to say “Oh, for the days when men were men and women were glad of it.”
I’d like to get back to that point some day soon.
Amen ex-ph2, but I don’t think its going to happen in this life…too many have sold their solds to satan!
patch job! “sold their souls to satan!” geez
Imagine a group of people so despicable, they create laws and policies to make it illegal or a firing offense to say or do anything they may decide to use as an excuse to cry?
Yeah, that is the modern Leftard.
Kinda like banning people who try and post here, who don’t go with the herd, huh?
Hello? Hello??
Is this mic on???
LOL right on!
I trust there’s more to the story. As for what we know, chew him out, make him publicly apologize like Patton, and move on…as for misbehavior on liberty? That’s why there is the UCMJ…they were charged and punished…shit goes down on every CO’s watch…ever met an XO who had a good day? It seems, though, it was the disparaging word that did him in…way to exit the Corps as an O-5 after all that effort and sacrifice
Grow the fuck up you little pansies for Christ’s sake! oooh you hurt my widdle fweelings you bad man! Fuck Off and eat a bag of dicks!
Right On!!! Very well said.
you had me at grow the fuck up <3
“faggoty” is the word that got my MEU commander fired less than two weeks prior to his scheduled relief.
And so yet another warrior gets sacrificed on the altar of PC. Not that I think we should go back to war, but I miss the days when people were more concerned about how well you could lead men (yes, men) into harms way.
One day we will get back to that, but until then, I guess we will have to weather the storm.
Well then; what are we to call the faggots?
……and how do you pronounce “LGBTQ “?
How about freaks, queers, butt rangers, rump ranchers, Chelsea or maybe Tinkerbell Blumenthal?
pole smokers, ass bandits, shirt lifters or turd burglars?
Faggot. Doesn’t look like it. English is funny that way. Example:The LGBTQ crowd was butthurt over a word. Pronounced : The faggots got weepy over bullshit. See?
Does the Q stand for queefers?
Think of it as a sandwich like BLT or PBJ.
I AIN’T EATIN’ THAT!
pansy shytheads works! lol
This is so gay…
Well of course he was fired. He failed to meet the standard. The proper term is
“Slack Jawed Faggots!”
Anyone from yesterday’s “sailor” article still want to throw out the “who cares” position again? This is why that shit matters!
It appears that the left wants us to fear every queer!
Or buy them a beer.
They’ve got your six.
You know why gays make such great soldiers?
They never leave their buddy’s behind!
HeHeHe!!!
That makes a great T-shirt thingy, doesn’t it?
Fear the queer or buy him a beer.
I really am tired of these hypersensitive bitches getting their psyches in a bunch over a word. A “faggot” is a bundle of wood, idiots.
And, yeah, I’m a bitch. I learned the trade from all of you gay birds who are heterophobics.
If he were cross dressing and wearing women’s clothes and dancing for the battalion team leaders he could take a faggotty picture in his BDUs (Marine term?) and be celebrated to no end. With some of you here spouting “well as long as he can do land nav, shoot, blah blah blah…….”
Still think it does no harm?
I wonder what Chesty Puller would have to say.
Probably tell them to play “Smear the Queer” for PT that day.
Yes! So fun. I got knocked clean out playing that game at 10 years old.
Damn forgot about that game, I loved being the Queer lol
“If he were cross dressing and wearing women’s clothes and dancing for the battalion team leaders”
You mean like this?
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=81445
Faggots want is to go to their parades, applaud their “coming out”, listen to the fake trendy voices they use, fall over ourselves celebrating pride week, treat them special, etc but Lordy Lordy don’t actually say “there’s a fag or a queer.”
I don’t care who is gay and who isn’t. I would no more put up with all this outward attention demand syndrome from a hetero than I would a homo. Just don’t sign me up for the forced celebration / sensitivity of either homo or hetero.
Us. Not is.
We may need to get a ruling on Dickweed.
How about some new terms to replace those which have become unacceptable?
Start with something like ‘bumfanker’. It has a certain je ne said quoi about it, doesn’t it?
Ex, how about Rump Ranger, Trollin for Colon, Peter Puffer, Fudge Packer, And for their theme song, how about “I’ll Never Find Another Ewe? Wyoming, where the men are men and the sheep are nervous?
That’s all I got???
Oh, but those are already in use and no longer acceptable because everyone knows what they mean.
Bumfanker was inspired by something else. It’s a made-up word and has no real meaning but sounds as though it means something. Ah, but what DOES it mean? I will never tell.
Forgive my ignorance, but I sincerely don’t understand why ‘faggot’ is any more terrible than ‘queer.’ The community goes so far as to include it in their group monicker of LGBTQ.
In England, if one says “I can really go for a fag right about now” someone will offer you a cigarette.
The syntax keeps changing.
And not just the faggoty stuff.
My grandmother was a “scrub woman”.
Can’t say that anymore. It’s now “domestic help”.
My cousin was born “retarded”. Can’t say that anymore. It’s now “special needs”.
Queer, faggot, shirt lifter…It’s all good.
Ha! … in Scotland a “scrubber” was a slut.
Not a damned thing wrong with the word queer either, look it up in the dictionary! its something out of the normal…and if perverted, immoral assholes are not out of the normal, I don’t know what is! imo
I’m ready to devour and enjoy some good ‘ole faggots. Ex-PH2 should post and share the recipe for faggots this weekend. I heard they’re delicious when covered in breadcrumbs and served with peas…
I will look for it.
Found it. Saveur’s online presentation.
Welsh faggots with onion gravy. Read it and weep. They don’t require cooking it in the ‘caul’ (organ fat), which is fine with me. Less greasy, in my view.
West Country cooking (Cornwall and Wales) is the best in Britain.
https://www.saveur.com/article/recipes/faggots-with-onion-gravy-welsh-style-pork-meatballs-with-onion-gravy
Sounds like it might be quite good – if you replace the liver with an equal amount of ground pork. (I don’t much care for liver.)
I agree, or cut it in half and replace the left-out amount with more ground pork.
Most of the recipes call for more organ meat, which I don’t particularly like. But a mild chorizo sausage mixed with the ground pork might do just as well, without altering the flavor. Or maybe some Johnsonville original recipe sausage patties….
” the best in Britain.”
That’s not saying much, in my (fortunately) limited experience. A proper fry-up is nice, though.
My strongest memory of British food is a steam table in a pub where every item was some shade of brown. The flavors, too.
The Cornish beef pastie, which is a beef turnover with turnips and potatoes and onions, is quite good. But the Welsh and Cornish people only refer to themselves as Brits when they have to.
We obviously didn’t visit the same pubs. Had some truly outstanding food in pubs, particularly when visiting them at tea time. Good selections of sausages and great omelets at every one. Yum.
You are undoubtedly correct. My limited time there was spent chained to my inlaws, who have precious little experience with pubs.
Thass gay
The late sainted Gunny used the terms “peter-puffers” and “pole-smokers”. I saw it on TV, too. Never heard of any blowback… 🙂
A faggot is a bundle of wood sticks. Put an axe head in the bundle, too. Used to be on dimes, also called ‘fasces’. The faggot-bearer carried it in front of the legion he belonged to, to announce their coming. It has a long and honored history.
So what’s the problem with these attention-whoring, classless, self-centered, immature, clueless, nitwitted heterophobes?
Not enough attention?
Get some professional help with your problems and leave the warrior breed alone, fools. They are the ONLY reason you have a right to run your useless mouths and whine.
Oh, yeah – Dave Hardin hasn’t abused me yet this morning. I feel neglected.
He is busy doing the yard today.
Reminds me of the time that one of my privates came up to me and asked, “Lieutenant, what’s a coon-ass?” (For those of you unfamiliar with the term, it’s an ethnicly disparaging term used by North Louisiana natives to refer to South Louisiana natives of French descent.) Upon learning that he had been sent to ask me that by Sgt. Gibson – a North Louisiana type – I told the young private, “You go tell Sgt. Gibson that I said for him to kiss your hairy ass.” But then, that was back in the day when men were men, and didn’t cry when their feelings got hurt.
Before PowerPoint presentations about sensitivity and shit.
Even as a contractor I had to click through all of them and initial.
Actually, “sensitivity training” was just getting started then. Was a big part of why I got out.
When I was in Korea the Louisiana ANG visited and posted a flag on which was proudly stitched, “Coon-Ass Militia”. It would never fly today.
Out here in Az, we have a “coon tail” rattlesnake! they can’t take a joke either LOL
Saw on a water tower in Frisco, TX
“Frisco, Texas – Home of the Fightin’ Coons”
Growing up in NC, coonass was also used describe a white redneck. For the most part rarely did someone become offended. I wore bib overalls to school the first several years. Most kids did. We were routinely called redneck and coonass. We got over it.
So if a foo-foo doesn’t shave, does that make him a “Hairy Fairy”?
I understand the reflexive and absolute bullshit in destroying the guy, but damn…..he really should have known better. There are certain things we’ve all learned to not say in front of the troops. I walk a certain line and and raise eyebrows, but we all know where the edge of that cliff exists.
Know your operational environment.
Unfortunately, I have to agree.
If the boss ever orders an investigation, ANYTHING you said in a meeting/in front of the troops will become known. And IMO anyone who doesn’t realize the rules of what is acceptable language have changed during the last 9 years is either (1) too dull to command, or (2) too stubborn to command.
Is it necessarily “as it should be”? No. But it’s current reality – and you have to deal with reality, not “what should be”.
I disagree. Wrong is wrong. When “current reality” is going to get people killed, you have to stand up against it, and fight for “what should be.”
Wrong is wrong….ok, well then by current DoD policy what he did is wrong and he’ll suffer the consequences as will anybody else that wishes to sacrifice themselves for a word and thus negate any further opportunity they have to participate in the process.
Those of us that don’t wish to throw our careers out the window over such nonsense adapt to the environment so we can maintain a presence and focus on what matters.
? Wrong as determined by a bunch of perverted, immoral, female impersonators? I don’t think so!
If the man disagrees with current DoD policy, there are ways of disagreeing with it that don’t involve openly violating same. And last time I checked, complying with DoD policy isn’t in general optional for those in command. Rather, it’s mandatory – along with having the leadership ability to control both yourself and your subordinates.
Extending your logic above, it should be OK to use various racial and ethnic slurs that were once accepted but which are today considered “fighting words”. After all: if anyone is offended by those terms, they should just “get over it” – right? We need troops who can “take it” to prevail and win, right? No, I do NOT advocate this; but it’s the logical continuation of what you just said above. Why? Because doing that will grossly undermine unit morale and cohesiveness – and THAT will get people killed in combat.
What is considered acceptable language today is far different than when you and I grew up. Then, among most the late George Carlin’s famous “7 Words . . . .” were effectively verboten, while referring to someone by any number of common racial or ethnic slurs was perfectly acceptable. That’s been at least partially reversed today; some of those “7 Words” are commonly used and are merely considered “somewhat crude”, while the slurs are now “fighting words”.
As it should be? Perhaps, or perhaps not. But it’s still reality – and in many cases, de facto DoD policy. And until policy changes, one disregards it at their peril.
^^^ Which is why I got out ^^^
I have a limited tolerance for politically correct bullshit. My loss? I don’t think so.
All this kind of pathetic BULLSHYT is making our Marine Corps look like idiots…I am sick of it! And I am not even a Marine!!
My reaction to what he was alleged to have said (as is written in that article) is that his vocabulary simply needs to be expanded to include vituperative adjectives, adverbs and nouns, and even pronouns, that are neither related to any sexual orientation, nor anything indicating a specific preference.
“vituperative”
Woooo…..great word.
I will proceed.
If he followed ex’s example and called them a bumfanker….they would run to whoever and say “he called me a bumfanker, boo hoo” ! LOL
Shouldn’t be that difficult. Most of us develop a Sunday-go-to-meetin’ vocabulary, a drinkin’-with-the-boys vocabulary, etc. There are occasional slips, but I have yet to hear a “Friggin’ A!” during a sermon. Gentle snoring, occasionally, but nothing out of line.
LGBTQ.
Demand special attention and acknowledgement. Cry like a queer faggot little bitch when you get it.
Mein Gott en Himmel! What is this military turning into? This nation has become a country of hall monitors for chrissake.
Lighten up, Francis!!!
Here is the irony of all of this —
if they published a book of all the words that you can’t say in order to protect yourself from losing your job, then they would ban the book.
Barack Obama, still destroying the military, even from the dustbin of history.
You people are just mean! Name calling can be very traumatic. I still suffer flashbacks from basic training, where the mess sergeant called me “Meathead!”. Repeatedly!
Not to mention the mental trauma I had when I graduated Basic wondering if my birth name was “Hey You”, “Maggot”, “Meathead”, “Slick” or “Hero”!
Somewhere, I think Mel Brooks is thinking: “Could I get away with this today?”
Dark Helmet: “You’re supposed to be a gunner! You missed, you faggot!”
Col. Sanders: “You can’t call him a faggot, sir!”
DH: “Why not?”
CS: “Because he IS a faggot.”
DH: “I can’t call him a faggot because he is a faggot?”
CS: “Correct, sir. You can only call people ‘faggot’ who are not faggots.”
.. wait for it…
DH: “So how many faggots are on this ship??”
…..
and of course you know what happens next if you watched Spaceballs.
I can’t help you, Dave. I don’t understand how supposed leaders, in what was probably a closed meeting, would rat out their head guy. Trying to get brownie points? With whom? For what? I know if someone came to me and ratted out someone senior to them for having said what he is alleged to have said, I would hold that person in low esteem. There are rats and then their are rats. You rat someone out who is planning a coup. You don’t rat out a fellow Marine for the use of salty language. There was a time when people, even the LGBT/Whatever crowd had a tough skin, and things such as this would only elicit a laugh. Now everyone is a victim. It’s a sad time when officers and senior enlisted feel the need to rat out their commander. Come on, Marines, you’re better than that. Everyone grow a set. You’re not gaining brownie points by action such as this; others think of you simply only as a rat, someone not to be trusted. Jeez …
This offense being taken thing over the use of words is beyond baffling. And completely out of control.
In the first place, how are the rest of us supposed to keep up with all the corrupted uses of words? Are there even enough hours in the day to study such things? An impossible task.
Secondly, when did it become the responsibility of those who know what words mean and where to use them to avoid using them because the people who do not know what they mean might misunderstand? Silly.
Of course there are words which should be avoided, for a lot of reasons. Some of us were educated during a time when we learned more than enough words to fit every situation without using words one place which should be avoided in another. More power to those who can keep it straight, but for me it is just easier to not use any of those words anywhere.
Oh, well. Whiners are going to whine no matter what you say or do because they simply cannot be satisfied.
Remember when liars were saying there wouldn’t be a slippery slope and nothing would change when sexual deviance was green lighted in the military?
Yah….
What matters is how he leads (that part I don’t know). Insults and profanity are just how a leader shows he cares.
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The infiltration to the Defence Community at top level by these bum bandits has been one of exceptional success. If you are interested in intelligence and the placing of “Sleepers” into top level positions with in the Armed Forcers or the Government Agency’s, these creations have done a dam good job. No one can denie that there isn’t any place you can go where there isn’t one of these bum-bandits listening in to the voice of the Armed Services, School kids, or the public in general. These creations are trying to change society towards their ideal view of Communism.
I most likely will be that last transgressor as I am hounded out of my room at this mental facility by a mod of illiterate and uneducated bum-bandedits..
LtCol Mainz might’ve been okay had he said, “…not that there’s anything wrong with that…” after making the “faggot” comment.
Not that it’s important, but I’m curious who reported him – and how quickly word got to the MEF CG?
I retired in 91 and knew well enough for many, many years to not use certain words. Some b/c they were offensive to everyone; some b/c they were offensive to certain individuals. I simply stopped using all about which I had any doubt. This guy, really, should have been smart enough to not use that word, regardless of his audience. Everything remains a secret as long as one person is dead.
It’s not that hard to figure out. You can’t (last I heard) call a black Marine nigger, so why can you call a gay Marine faggot?
It’s a brave, new world kids. Just keep that in mind the next time you use your words.
It may be Trump’s presidency, but it’s still very much Obama’s military. Most of the brass got there by acting iaw that.