Two Thirds of Veterans keep Guns as Decorative Brick
It is amazing how two people can read the same data and come to completely different conclusions.
One third of United States Armed Forces Veterans store at least one firearm loaded with ammunition and unlocked, according to a new study published in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine that reports on the first survey of a nationally representative sample of this group regarding storage practices. Unsafe firearm storage practices appeared to be strongly related to perceptions about the need to keep firearms for protection. This easy access to lethal means increases suicide risk in an already vulnerable population.
At least 2/3 of you people have no idea what owning a gun is all about. If a man speaks his opinion and there is no woman around to hear him…Is he still wrong? If a bangy bangy thing is not loaded…is it really a gun?
“We know that nearly half of all US Veterans have firearms, and like many non-Veteran adults, it is common for them to store at least one gun loaded and unlocked. The challenge we uncovered, although I think we already suspected this, is that firearm safety practices are strongly related to whether individuals keep their firearms for protection,” explained lead investigator Joseph A. Simonetti, MD, MPH, Assistant Professor at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, Denver, CO, USA. “We recommend that VA providers work on communication strategies to enable Veterans to make informed decisions about firearm safety by balancing the perceived benefits of firearm access against the thoroughly demonstrated risks of that access for those with elevated suicide risk.”
Odd, these statistics seem to show that 2/3 of Veterans who own guns are irresponsible about the safety of their family by not being properly prepared to protect them.
The survey was completed by 3,949 US adults, of whom 561 were US Veterans who own firearms. The prevalence of unsafe firearm storage ranges substantially within the group surveyed, from 9 percent to 65 percent, across individual, household, and firearm ownership characteristics, and is strongly related to other firearm-related behaviors (e.g., carrying handguns), reasons for firearm ownership (e.g., protection versus other), number of firearms owned, and perceptions about the utility of guns stored safely and whether guns make homes safer.
Yep, I bet ya anything that an un-driven car is safer than one you actually drive.
Approximately one in three of the US Veterans who own firearms reported storing at least one of their firearms loaded and unlocked while 22.5 percent stored all of their firearms unloaded and locked. Sixty-six percent of Veteran firearm owners stored at least one firearm unlocked, and 46.7 percent stored at least one loaded.
Storing a firearm loaded and unlocked was more common among Veteran firearm owners who:
- Disagreed that firearms should be stored unloaded and locked when not in use
- Agreed that firearms are not useful for personal protection if the owner has to take time to load or unlock them
- Agreed that having a firearm in the home makes the household safer
Am I the only one who finds this entire article bent in the wrong direction? Gotta be some Gun Nutz out there that can make sense of all this for me. Please read the entire article HERE.
Category: Guns
A young VA shrink asked, “Do you have firearms in your house?” I figured it was none of her business, but I answered anyway. “Yes.” She then asked, “Have you ever thought about doing harm to yourself?” Next time I get the question on gun availability, I’ll take the Second.
My brother John,(the retired Marine WO) answers those questions this way: “You writing a book?, Leave that chapter out!” Been imitating him for the better part of 35 years.
doc: Do you keep firearms in the house?
patient: Are you gay?
doc: That’s none of your business.
patient: ………………………..
doc: Oh, I get it.
Doc: Do you keep firearms in the house?
Poe: You know Doc, I wouldn’t go to a gun store for medical advice…
Poetrooper…if you don’t mind I’m gonna borrow that one next time I’m at the TMC.
Doc: Do you keep firearms in the house?
Patient: Of course not. They’re in my hunting cabin. Are you aware that farting in public is socially unacceptable?
Doc: Well, of course I do.
Patient: Then why do you wear that godawful perfume/shaving lotion? You’re making me nauseous.
I was not aware that public demonstrations of natural biological functions were not socially acceptable? I will now have to go back and tell my 5 year old to stop farting in public!
Sometimes, you guys should remember to post spew alerts!
Just for that, tomorrow’s cooking article includes garlic and onions. Let’s see you try to get out of that one!
Get TSO to regale you sometime with tales of all the political figures he’s cropdusted.
I would do the same myself, but 1–never trust a fart at my age, 2–I’ve gone from the SBD phase to my ass sounding like a trombone played through Spinal Tap’s amplifiers set to 11.
Heh. I farted in Chris Hill’s uparmored Suburban in Iraq.
I’ve used a variation of that one.
Doc: Do you firearms in the house?
Me: Do you have unprotected sex with strange men?
Just say NO, but I consider doing harm to a.h.’s that ask me that question LOL
I get asked about firearms in the house sometimes when I go to the VA.
I merely tell them that any blunt, edged, or ranged weapons that I may or may not possess are stored in accordance with all local, state, and federal laws.
Then I get asked about a desire to harm myself, and I answer that I once thought about telling a Scot that anything made with a single mart is crap, and the only good alcohol involved fermented grapes, but I stopped myself in time.
I get asked these questions by the medical assistant every year when I go for my annual wellness visit. I used to tell her it was none of her business, which precipitated a lengthy question and answer session with the doc. Now I just lie and say “no.” There is no penalty for lying to medical flunkies about info that is none of their business.
I simply respond with a “no, why should I” when asked if I’ve thought about hurting myself. Stops them almost every time.
My multiple loaded guns are indeed very loaded, very dangerous, very much for personal protection, very much none of the VA’s fucking business, and very ready to assist in suicide… if a home invader or violent public attacker wants to commit suicide by home invasion of violent public attack.
Oh… and white tail deer season is getting closer here in Texas. 🙂
My primary Doc. is a big skeet shooter and my eye Doc. is big into guns. I took a friend of mine to the Gun show at the PBC Fairgrounds a few years ago and she bumps into her Chiropractor. I guess not all of the peeps in the medical field are anti 2A. I wonder if all Cairo-Practors have to study in Egypt.
I used to see my doc at the range all of the time so if I answered no he would know I was full of shit.
Last time I had that question from a (former!) doc I asked if we could first please discuss the 600,000+ incidents of death annually due to medical malfeasance.
So far, I like this option best.
Fortunately I really like my personal physician, and he’s a Texas boy, so I have seldom had to face this question.
Of course, saying “no, I have no guns” while packing (concealed) may raise an eyebrow in some physician’s offices. If they have the legal notice to not carry inside, I still have the holster on, just lock the pistola in a safe in the vehicle.
It is “only” 250K, if it were 600K it would exceed heart disease and cancer.
But yeah still well North of 12 times the amount of people murdered with guns annually. Throw all gun deaths in their including suicides and accidents and it is almost 12%.
“Storing a firearm loaded and unlocked was more common among Veteran firearm owners who:
Disagreed that firearms should be stored unloaded and locked when not in use”
You can tell the vets are crazy because they disagree with the docs.
Amen, from dimwits “practicing” medicine!
I just lie. I lie anyway when they ask about booze.
Word.
They know you are lying about the booze. The guns they are pretty sure about.
Goudy: Now is it not true that you sprang up on old man Wharton and his two sons with a deadly, six shot revolver in your hand?
Rooster Cogburn: I always try to be ready.
Goudy: Was this revolver loaded and cocked?
Rooster Cogburn: Well, a gun that’s unloaded and cocked ain’t good for nothin’.
Not a Vet but the son of a WWII Marine and I’ve always had loaded guns in my house. I’ve raised two daughters and taught them like my dad taught me about guns and safety. It’s funny how telling them the facts and going over safety with them caused them to never have any problems with it. My family doctor frequently tells me he has to ask these BS questions due to some insurance or medical thing and he always says answer no to them and don’t give ANY information about your private life. I like this guy and will probably freak when he retires.
Same here. I’ve always been a firm believer that hiding one’s guns away from children makes them a mysterious object and that when they are found, and eventually they will be found by an inquisitive child, horrible accidents happen. I simply took the mystery out of guns. I never hid my guns from any of my children. I taught my children what they were and what could happen if they were handled inappropriately and used irresponsibly. I taught them gun safety and let them handle the guns and help me clean them. When I thought they were old enough, I took them to the range and taught them to shoot. Yes, the majority of my guns were locked in a safe. But that was to deter thieves and not hide them from my children. All of my children grew up to be well adjusted and responsible citizens and gun owners. Isn’t it amazing what a little education and common sense can do?
This is a bullshyt article….except for the past couple of mealy mouthed generations, there have been thousands of years that nobody gave a shyt what you had in your home! And its only because the NWO got the balls enough to start pushing for disarmament so they could take over…..dream on DIPSHYTS!
Not all my guns are loaded, just the one I use for Home/=Self Defense. But the others can be loaded fairly quickly. What use is a defensive firearm IF IT IS NOT LOADED!?!?! I have not been asked the question but my answer will be, Why do you want to know? Also, If I wanted to commit Suicide, there are better ways than shooting myself.
A few questions for the data collection specialists:
How did you determine that any of your respondents was telling you the truth?
If I had a weapon locked and loaded, in what category would you count it?
Does a laser scope make a firearm more dangerous than a steak knife?
What is anyone supposed to do with the data you collected and/or the conclusions you draw from it?
How much did you get paid to collect this data and who signed the check?
I went to the actual study and found this:
And, how many people have been featured on this site who previously “self-identified” as veterans, but who weren’t? Remember Dennis Howard Chevalier, aka Denny H Chevalier, phony war veteran, phony veteran, phony retired USAF LTC, phony SWAT veteran, and statements that he waved a loaded gun around?
Nothing in their methodology that shows how they screened the validity of their respondent’s veteran claims.
Link to study:
https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(18)31697-0/fulltext
Not screened, huh?
Then the study is invalid.
Not to mention that if someone identifies as a gun owner that (especially if they say “but I support common-sense gun control”) are 99″ anti-gun trolls trying to jik the studies’ numbers. 16 of the last 22 years’ gun-grabbing has made a lot of gun owners very circumspect… for instance, almost no one here at TAH still owns a firearm. ‘Way too many tragic boating accidents in this circle…
I lost mine in the San Pedro flood of 2014. Damndest thing. No damage to the house of property, but the gun locker just went whooooosh downstream headed north.
Concealed means secret….
I rarely speak of anything that I may or may not have in my home, car or on my body…
The only place I talk about it is on the Lone Star Range when it would be hard to deny that I have at least one firearm….
Other than that, it is nobody’s business, period…..
And, it is nobody’s business if I am feeling like a homicidal maniac, God and good judgement keeps me from taking the lives of anyone that doesn’t deserve it…
Lone Star Range where?
I got off to the Blackwood Gun Range today to sight in the squirrel gun. Was getting 1/2″ groups at 25 yards, and was ready to move to the 50 yard target when I decided to try some very, very old .22LR.
I had a case head separation that blew my extractor somewhere where I couldn’t find it, and lodged the body of the casing in the chamber. Ruined my shooting day.
Got the replacement part ordered, everything else cleaned, shrapnel removed from the receiver, and ready to put it all back together when I get the part in the mail.
Now I need to get rid of 98 rounds of very very old .22LR – safely.
We all know that a firearm is always loaded, even when it’s not.
If you feel like being polite/non-confrontational or have a good relationship with the doctor or health care professional, “Decline to state.” Is a decent response.
Me, {l[e to the doctors that I am afraid of guns.{ like Women. They do not ask me about sucide anymore. Since I told mr kinfolk if they are told that I did myself in to start hunting for my killer. Joe
I like that idea. I will inform my nephew of it. 🙂
“This easy access to lethal means increases suicide risk in an already vulnerable population.”
So the assumption, which is false, is that the “already vulnerable population” is going to use a firearm of some kind to commit suicide. Well, since that is a rather painful way to go, it is a false and unsupported assumption based on hot air, dust bunnies and moonbeams.
People who WANT to commit suicide can do so with an automobile by simply switching lanes and heading into oncoming traffic, particularly if there is a 31-ton loaded tractor-trailer rig coming at you at 65 MPH. Splat! Instant karma. And no one would guess it’s a suicide, right?
Then there’s suicide by cop, getting drunk and drowning in the bathtub, eating the equivalent of seven full meals, so that your stomach explodes (yes, that has happened), and numerous other ways to self-destruct, such as being attacked by wild hogs, jumping onto the tracks while a commuter train is heading toward you, etc.
And furthermore, NO weapon is useful for self-defense if it is NOT loaded.
Is there a list of those stupid questions available? They sound like a trap that violates the 5th Amendment.
That’s the issue I took with it too. Like someone who wants to commit suicide can’t just take a few moments to load a gun? Suicide isn’t usually a spur of the moment decision.
Crap..if anyone wants to off themselves, all they have to do is go to the drug store, buy some syringes….fill it with air and shoot it up! bang, bubble to the heart! 🙁 You don need no stinking gunz!! 😉
As Hoot said in Blackhawk Down, “This here’s my safety.”
Dave Hardin asked this question: If a man speaks his opinion and there is no woman around to hear him…Is he still wrong?
Of course. Otherwise, you are going to sleep in the bathtub again.
And while I’m on it, we should have a handbook (distributed free of charge, but donations welcome) that gives instructions on how to embarrass these inquisitive people asking these questions as much as possible.
“This easy access to lethal means increases suicide risk in an already vulnerable population.” So, if I follow that, and I do, having a gun that has a trigger lock or otherwise requires 30 or 60 seconds to access will reduce suicides. I suppose that’s akin to someone saying, “I was going to jump off the bridge but, damn, it’s a mile away, so I said the hell with it.
Actually 2/17, using the timeframe you gave for removing a trigger lock, at 30-6- seconds, it’d be more like saying “I was going to jump off the bridge but, damn, it’s 50 ft away, so I said the hell with it.”
I’ll buy that.
Or maybe “I was going to jump off the bridge, but roasting a whole hog and drinking whiskey are a lot more fun and less painful.”
What’s a trigger lock?
It is a waste of about $8.00. But it is the cheapest way to secure a firearm for those who won’t buy a gun safe or other locking container.
It when you stick your trigger finger in your nostril
Only if you’re an A-ganger and manage to bury it past the third joint.
It’s when your DA revolver binds and you can’t pull the trigger
It’s that cheap metal thing you tossed when first opening the box.
“Vulnerable population” is just a nice way of labeling vets as a whole as somehow mentally unbalanced. Fuck them.
Second, most vet suicides are over 50.
Third, as has been discussed before, many GWOT-era vet or AD suicides are more likely to have NOT deployed.
Finally, every study in the last 40 years (save one) showed veterans/AD members having LOWER suicide rates than civilians, and the one which was higher did not take age/sex into account. Had they done so, they would have found no statistically significant difference.
Yes, yes, and yes. It’s nice the way that works. Doesn’t matter if the Veteran is 89, alone in the world now, facing a terminal illness, dog died, house was foreclosed, car stolen…if he commits suicide he adds to the Veteran suicide stats.
That vulnerable population statement is just a further reiteration of the questionable claim that veterans are more likely to commit suicide than non-veterans. It is about as accurate as the bogus assertion that veterans are more likely to be homeless.
Did you know that Veterans aged 23-35 are 43x more likely not to whack off at a truck stop on the NJ Tpk than are non-Veterans of the same age group?
LMAO!
Whoever did that flawed study never served with the guys I served with. They would have beat their meat anywhere, any time, any place where they were at least 40% sure no one was looking.
Trigger locks…ok….will give the a.h. about to rob and shoot you about 60 extra seconds to take aim!
I keep one pistol loaded in my house, but it is in a locked case that can only be opened with my fingerprints. I do that because I have grandkids. Although, I doubt any of them would know how to chamber a round, cuz I don’t keep it that loaded.
All I know is that if you break into my abode, you are in for a very bad day.
None of the loaded and unlocked up weapons I owned before the tornado came thru ever self identified as a brick. Some self identified as book weights on the night stand. Some self identified as chest of drawer queens. There were three that self identified as corner consorts, hiding out behind the doors. Others self identified as pictures, hanging onto walls. A few even came out of the closet. The younglings, various spousal and domestic companion units were well versed in their purpose and instructed in the use there of. Never did a single one encourage me to suck start it, and none ever had an involuntary emission that caused leakage. Sad about the tornado.
ALL the guns I “had” before the flood were ALL loaded, and you could hear them shooting trout, all the way down the river lol 🙂
The government is forcing doctors to ask all this stuff as part of “quality assurance”
The questions are different for different specialties
As an Anesthesiologist, I have to ask about quitting smoking.
Our eye surgeons are forced to ask about flu shots
If you do not comply, they reduce your payment by a certain percent
They have no real way to measure quality
So they do this instead
Just lie, it is easier for all concerned.
Ah, I love those questions;
Do you smoke?
No, I usually buy my smoked meat at the grocery store now. I used to have a smokehouse, but I don’t have room for it now. Nothing like a properly smoked ham or mesquite smoked crown rib roast.
Have you had your flu shots?
Shots? I only got one. Were there supposed to be more than that?
Do you smoke?
“only if I’m on fire”.
Either get a giggle or a glare…
Old standby:
Doc: “Do you smoke?”
Patient: “Only after sex”.
“Do you smoke after sex?”
“I don’t know. I never looked.”
Do you Smoke?
Not any more. I started using KY Jelly.
Do you smoke?
Well, I’m too green to burn.
“They have no real way to measure quality”
Lately, everytime I see a doctor I get a follow up survey from some independant QA group. Started a couple years ago. I use Medicare not VA.
If I don’t respond, I get a second one.
Always loaded but the semis seldom have one in the chamber when laying about the house, except for the 1911 which is ready to go.
Love the little Airweight, wonderful pocket heater, even when wearing a suit.
I really need to get proficient with the Walther. FIL got it for Mrs. Sparky, complete with concealed holster.
I love my Judge and .45, but both are just too bulky and stand out like a sore dick if I’m not wearing a suit or coat.
Haha, yeah, you would have a hard time concealing a Judge! Same with my S&W 29.
The new concealed carry Walthers are very attractive.
It took about 93 or 97 days to get a Class A permit in Massachusetts. I went to Four Seasons, in Waltham, and felt like a kid in the candy store.
I stopped by my Selectman’s house one Saturday morning and he wrote one out for me over cofee.
Sorry. just had to rub it in.
Haha! What year might that have been? Guys in this area experience three months just to renew a permit and that’s when the system is in good order.
Man you guys make me happy to live in Colorado…. and we’re not near s good on the subject as Texas is…
“Haha! What year might that have been?”
20 OCT 94 expired 20 OCT 98
The state police took over shortly after but it gets renewed every few years.
I’m due this October.
So claymores in the front yard are okay?
Okay? Nay, required! Along with the foogas!
Yes, but arrange them in a crossfire pattern. Don’t want to hurt some poor innocent person just driving by on their way to church.
Claymors along Prez Trumps wall would be nice! 😉
Fortunately doc is also a member of the rod and gun club so mumbles the question and just writes something down.
I suspect it says “boating accident” or sumpin.
Also his idea of a good time is to drag us into the woods in Feb, in Northern ME for daily 5k CC skiing. The sketchier the weather the better.
I WORK IN AN OFFICE.
Did I mention he is Dutch?
As in old school Dutch.
Glad you mentioned Dutch.
Next self-gift is a Lodge enameled Dutch oven. Rated best by America’s Test Kitchen, for the quality of its construction, evenness of cooking and the price, all outweighing the more expensive and more colorful Le Creuset species.
Did not know they made an enameled version. I have the tall and medium ones for large and small pot roasts.
High quality, made in USA.
Every weapon I own is cold as the arctic, if they ever ask me about any firearms being loaded, I tell them I don’t drink? It is so much fun to fuck with their survey results anyway. It’s about as much fun as fucking with telephone solicitors. We all have our jollies in different ways. I do like the idea about the TAH handbook however???
My neighbor keeps all of his weapons in a gun safe in his basement. He has yet to come up with a plan to get from his upstairs bedroom to the safe without making contact with bad guy who has just breached the door to his main floor. Killing part is it’s only him and his wife in the residence.
My immediate assumption was that he is a practitioner of “Never admit to your holdout”.
Probably just as well. He has shotguns and rifles that not only has he never fired but they have never been loaded either.
I keep a loaded pistol on top of my nightstand just in case I need to fight my way to the loaded shotgun at the end of my bed. My unloaded guns are kept in the gun safe in the basement, because if they are unloaded they might as well be in another county for all the good they do me.
I always answer that gun in the home question as “Yes, and in the car, the truck, the garage, and in my garden shed. You never know when you might need one in a hurry.
Growing up, there was always at least one loaded firearm in my house and several rifles on the rack in our basement. One of those was always loaded. Funny, no one in my home ever shot themselves or anyone else. What the heck is a gun for if it is not loaded? A paperweight?
We need to take back the narrative from the left. Hell, most everyone I knew had guns when I was young and a solid 25-35% of my school was absent when deer season began.
right on!
“We need to take back the narrative from the left.” That applies to many issues. The problem is that the media control the narrative. If it weren’t for Fox News and the internet (for as long as it lasts unfettered), Goebbels would be beaming with pride.
I was a beat cop for just under 3 years and since then I’ve always had loaded pistols/rifles in my house. Placed strategically all over my house.
These clowns imply that some day all of them are going to get up and just start shootin’.
Funny thing. Not ONCE have any of them go off accidentally.
Hmmm. Why is that?
So under 600 “self-identified” veterans out of over 21 million in the country.
The other part of that is, they should’ve had a higher focus group of veterans. It also should’ve been specifically a statistic only for veterans to determine veterans vs everyone else, not as part of the larger group.
This is a good example of why the CDC as a researcher and investigator of gun violence/crime is such a bad idea. They don’t know what to analyze, how to gather the information, or where to go to find better information about the subject.
But they do know how to serve their perceived political masters.
Which was the whole point.
Right. Gun violence is as much a medical issue as car accidents, earthquakes, and skydiving.
We also, as a society, put doctors up on a pedestal like they’re better because of their degrees. What do you call the guy that graduated last in his class at medical school? Doctor.
My roommate keeps one loaded, I keep one loaded. They’re accessible. What good is it otherwise?
I do love the political slant of this article making all of us out to be damaged, acting like we’re ticking time bombs and all that.
If I commit suicide, someone better ask who was holding the gun…
Amen. If someone is in my house at 3 am, it sure as fuck ain’t the Avon lady.
And where I live, there are too many junkies, etc., to allow second chances. God knows they won’t give me one.
Got the same crap around me. The house two doors down has a different car out front every day, and I’ve seen some sketchy vehicles rolling around real slow Dow the street. We’re not taking any chances. Especially since his kids live with us.
Guns? Nope lost them all in that horrible boating accident in the Mojave desert. Or was that over the Marianas Trench? No no. It was during that hike in Antarctica. The sled with the guns fell into that crevasse. Yeah, that’s it.
the fire dept vowed to stand clear and left my house burn
Forget the guns, lock up the children.
Noisy, disrespectful, needy little bastards.
*grin*
An unloaded gun is about as useful as an empty fire extinguisher.
Actually, as a blunt weapon, a discharged extinguisher might be more useful.
Almost as good as PH’s frying pan! lol
Once when my kids were young and public service deals started talking about gun safety, my wife asked if it was a good idea to keep guns in the house. So I trained my kids on guns and they have regarded them in safe ways ever since, with complete respect.
Then my grandkids started staying over and the question was brought up by their mother in front of the oldest. Never had to say a word as my granddaughter responded with all the right answers, and then, (without a gun in her hands,) went on to demonstrate what I had taught her! She explained to her mother that guns were safe as long as people respected them and treated them for what they were.
When her mom calmed down I took her to the gun range too and taught her how to properly handle the weapon. She then put one on her Christmas list!
My doctor asked me about owning guns. He said it was because he was required to ask. I said something about showing him at the range, and the next Saturday, and many times since, we have gone shooting together!
It’s been 5,935 days that the bearable items, recognized by enumeration in the Bill of Rights contained in the Constitution of these United States, that may or may not be in my possession have gone without committing any felonious behaviors on their own accord or at my, or others’, behest.
In summary: the VA can run through a field of thickly ripened sun-kissed dicks, pantless and backwards.
I go shooting with one of the specialty providers I see about three times annually at the VA. I’m always asked if I have any firearms at home. I usually say, ‘you gotta be shitting me’ and we have a good laugh. None of he civilian providers I see have ever asked the question. If they do, I plan to lie.
FIREARMS SAFETY COUNSELING REPRESENTATION: PHYSICIAN QUALIFICATIONS AND LIABILITY Part One: Qualifications I affirm that I am certified to offer (Name of Patient here) after referred to as “the Patient”, qualified advice about firearms safety in the home, having received: Specify Course(s) of Study: _________________________________________________________________________ from: Specify Institution(s) _________________________________________________________________________ on: Specify Course Completion Date(s): _________________________________________________________________________ resulting in: Specify Accreditation(s), Certification(s), License(s) etc.: _______________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________ Check one, as appropriate: I represent that I have reviewed applicable scientific literature pertaining to defensive gun use and beneficial results of private firearms ownership. I further represent that I have reviewed all other relevant home safety issues with the Patient, including those relating to electricity, drains, disposals, compactors, garage doors, driveway safety, pool safety, pool fence codes and special locks for pool gates, auto safety, gas, broken glass, stored cleaning chemicals, buckets, toilets, sharp objects, garden tools, home tools, power tools, lawnmowers, lawn chemicals, scissors, needles, forks, knives, etc. I also acknowledge, by receiving this document, I have been made aware that, in his inaugural address before the American Medical Association on June 20, 2001, new president Richard Corlin, MD, admitted “What we don’t know about violence and guns is literally killing us…researchers do not have the data to tell how kids get guns, if trigger locks work, what the warning signs of violence in schools and at the workplace are and other critical questions due to lack of research funding. In spite of this admission, I represent that I have sufficient data and expertise to provide expert and clinically sound advice to patients regarding firearms in the home. OR I am knowingly engaging in Home/Firearms Safety Counseling without certification, license or formal training in Risk Management, and; I have not reviewed applicable scientific literature pertaining to defensive gun use and beneficial results of private firearms ownership. Part Two: Liability I have determined, from a review of my medical malpractice insurance, that if I engage in an activity for which I am not certified, such as Firearms Safety Counseling, the carrier (check one, as appropriate): ___ will ___ will not to tell how kids get guns,… Read more »
I’ll take one with me, if I ever need to go that far.
Apparently I live in a neighborhood where it is assumed everyone is packing. Or something. Have never been asked that question by any doc or their staff. And there have been plenty of opportunities lately.
Will be introduced to a new doc net week, so we shall see if this one asks.
I walked into a doctor’s office once but, before I did, I took my revolver and put it in a bag. When I got in to see the doc, he looked at the bag. I looked at the bag. He looked at me. I looked at him. He didn’t ask. I didn’t tell. Kicker: It happened in the Peoples Socialist Republic of Maryland.
My VA doc is awesome. Last time I saw him he was talking about his new deer rifle and the upcoming hunting season.
I wonder if these questions are more regional or age related because I have never been asked about my weapon ownership. I think out here in BFE its just assumed that everyone is armed or has easy access to weapons? My wife and I live alone and I only lock up my weapons when the grandkids are here, otherwise my lazy pistols and rifles dont do squat on their own.
Since leaving the Army in 1967, I’ve lived in West Texas, South Louisiana, Northwest Florida (Redneck Riviera), back to South Texas, Southern New Mexico and Arkansas. Never once in that half century have I been asked by a physician if I keep guns in my home.
As for locked up, unloaded guns, they aren’t worth spit, and I mean one in the chamber not just an inserted magazine. Two 9mm’s in the headboard, one on my side and one on Miz Poe’s backed up by a 9mm carbine and a 20 gauge Remington pump; there’s a Beretta 92 in the Caddy and a Ruger SR9 in the convertible. Oh, and there’s a sweet little Ruger 22 cal semi-auto loaded with long rifle hollow points right here at this desk where I’m typing for no other reason than I just like to have it here.
We live in a retiree area surrounded by lakes varying in size from small about 150 yards away, to large about a half mile as the geese fly, to very large less than 10 miles away, so a capsized boating incident is highly likely in the event that any authorities should inquire about my guns.
Right now I’m looking at the possibility of acquiring a KelTec PMR30 with the matching carbine because the idea of a 30 round, Winchester 22 magnum, semi-auto handgun with a carbine using the same interchangeable magazines appeals to me. Or maybe I’ll get the KelTec carbine that uses Beretta 92FS mags since I have a lot of those.
Yes, ol’ Poe loves him some guns…
Forgot to add that I avoid the VA like the plague. As the military/government sales manager for a pharmaceutical company, I called on VA hospitals all over CONUS and swore to myself that I’d never use that screwed up system. I’m strictly Medicare even for the cancer problem.
Now that’s a sad testament to the second largest government agency.
The PMR30 is a nice pistol and the CMR30 rifle is a good match….don’t think I have heard about the KelTec carbine that used the Beretta 92 mags?