Levi Tillemann pepper-sprays himself for gun control

| June 14, 2018

Mick and Kevin sends us a link to Fox News which reports that Levi Tillemann, a candidate for Congress in Maryland made the great sacrifice, spraying himself with pepper-spray to promote gun control;

“Pepper spray doesn’t cost much and it can be safely stored in a break glass in case of emergency cabinet. But it’s powerful and won’t accidentally kill a kid,” he continued. “Trust me, this will stop anybody in their tracks.”

The Democrat then proceeded to close his eyes and began spraying the pepper spray in his face. He’s later seen trying to wash off his face by dunking his head into water and spraying himself with a hose. “It’s incredibly painful, now I can’t see anything,” he said. “Wow, that’s intense.”

Tillemann, a former Department of Energy official during the presidency of Barack Obama, made gun control the key issue of his campaign, doubling-down on his website that pepper spray should be “be made widely available as quickly as possible” for teachers and school officials to combat potential school shooters.

“The time has come to move beyond apologies and half measures and fight for real solutions to gun violence in our community. Help us win this fight,” he said.

Maybe he should shoot himself in the head with a scary black rifle so we can make a comparison in the effects. According to the article, it appears that his antics won’t secure his place in the election – his party is backing another candidate.

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NHSparky

He does realize that pepper spray does fuck-all against a drugged out criminal, right?

Or that pain is temporary, but people have been known to keep going after being sprayed?

Personally, when we did the smoke and gas chambers in boot, it really wasn’t all that bad.

jim h

or that 20% of the population suffers no ill effects at all. that’s a stat I keep in my head at all times while out on patrol…

Jay

Jay Heath · Cedar Hill, Alabama
To make the experiment valid, el dorko should have first taken a massive dose of PCP followed by a shot of meth, with a bath salts and flakka chaser. Then had someone else spray him to see if it stopped him in the midst of his psychotic rage

5JC

Ignorant politician is ignorant.

Pepper spray CAN actually kill a kid. Rare but it happens. Pepper spray uses are more rare than gun uses so you don’t hear as much about it.

Pepper spray also does NOT incapacitate a someone wielding deadly force. He is perfectly capable of shooting/ stabbing/ clubbing and killing you.

Pepper spray can also effect the person using it just as badly as the person targeted, especially at contact ranges.

desert

Isn’t this the pathetic clown that had his picture in the “Drudge” report kissing some guy?

Casey

People have been known to keep going after being shot as well.

Still, shooting someone has a better chance of stopping someone than pepper spray.

This is about as dumb a suggestion as the “Can’t you shoot them in the leg?” or “Can’t you shoot the gun out of their hand?” questions.

ChipNASA

It’s been said, “Being incredibly stupid should be painful.”

Point Made.

NAILED IT.

James Hubbard

And it’s impossible to fix stupid.

26Limabeans

Better to just throw the can at the perp or if given the chance, make him eat it.

A. Young

I hear it tastes good on eggs.

Although the cop that told me that could’ve been bullshitting.

AztoVA

Should we send the links to USMC training where they get hit with pepper spray and have to keep fighting? Or news stories of thugs on drugs that don’t even notice the spray (or tasers, or high-velocity lead for that matter)?

AW1Ed

Well that puts him in the running for idiot of the day, but I suppose it’s better than PDRofMD Governor hopeful Richard Madaleno, who’s campaign ad features him sharing a kiss with his husband.

Yes, you read that correctly.

ChipNASA

I’m surprised they weren’t having full anal sex while waving anti-Trump signs at the same time, in a campaign advertisement.

/shit these days doesn’t surprise me any more, unless it’s Comey, Clinton, Strzok, Page, and Rosenstein all handcuffed, dressed in orange and perp walked, THAT shit would surprise me because I think that every one of them are going to walk, fuckers.

Ret_25X

I’d like to see them walking the plank….

at sea

from a shithook

at about 10000 feet

holding an anchor

LMAO

Mason

“Trust me, this will stop anybody in their tracks.”

Ah, no it won’t. Not even close.

Skyjumper

He probably thought he was spraying his face with “Pecker Spray”. It comes in a natural tone, rubbery soft container. I won’t list the major ingredient here.

Dickhead!!

Usafvet509

Great, Sky, thanks a lot. At local vet center waiting for my counselor. Laughing out loud suddenly in a VA waiting room. You bastard lol

USAF RET

Probably not the first time this dude had a shot to the face.

The Other Whitey

With a sticky, grayish-colored organic substance.

Ret_25X

he says it’s “lip smacking delicious”

SFC D

Cream of Sum Yung Guy

Forest Green

Pepper spray affects individuals differently and its effects are NOT immediate. It can take 15 seconds or more before it really takes effect. I have had it sprayed in my face for training. It’s a pain but you can perform through it. One of the other officers in training had no problem with it, at all. Maybe a runny nose. Others folded up and could do nothing. Just depends.

Bottom line; if he thinks he’s going to walk up to someone with a gun and incapacitate him with pepper spray and save the day, I hope his insurance is paid up.

Hack Stone

He doesn’t need pepper spray. All that he has to do is point out the “Gun Free Zone”, and the assailant will immediately depart the area.

Doc Savage

He looks rather comfortable with goo in his face…..

Ex-PH2

Isn’t vinegar the antidote for pepper spray? Something like that?

Does this marone really expect people to take him seriously?

Stacy0311

Johnson’s Baby Shampoo pretty much takes away the effects. You can pour it right in your eyes and Voila! cured!!

Fyrfighter

We add a bit of sugar to a mix of that and water.. not sure why it works, something about bonding with the capsicum…

Reaperman

He’s got a point that it should be made widely available to teachers. But isn’t it already widely available to them? I just assumed it was more or less standard equipment in every purse already.

OWB

Pepper spray is not easy to find now? News to me, too. Not actively looking for it, but see it displayed here and there.

NHSparky

Bear spray is readily available at any sporting good store in my neck of the woods.

5JC

Bear spray is a bit longer range and normally in a much larger can. Not normally as effective against people for some reason.

11B-Mailclerk

Bear Spray is 1-2% OC.

Pepper Spray is up to 10%.

The stuff for bears is not meant to incapacitate the critter, just irritate/annoy enough to drive it away.

If you want the “bear sized” spray container, look for the riot-control sized OC.

Docduracoat

The problem is not that pepper spray can be ineffective.
Let’s pretend it is 100% effective.
The problem is that it is limited in how far you can hit someone in the face with it.
Even the strongest stream of pepper gel only goes 15 or 20 feet.
You can defend with a revolver easily out to 25 yards.
Way further if you practice and/or use a crimson trace laser.
So you don’t have to get so close to an active shooter

SFC D

If you’re close enough to use pepper spray, you’re probably already perforated and bleeding. Bad tactics.

RGR 4-78

What is this idiot going to do when the “shooter” went to his local hardware store and purchased a full face respirator in anticipation of being sprayed.

Ret_25X

you don’t know?

he will just cry and whine about “common sense respirator control”

Sparks

In my house, should the break occur, the choice will be, .45 with 14+1 or AR-15 with 30+1 or 12 Gauge with 8+1. There is no pepper spray to be found.

I don’t use knives or things that would require close distances to a perp.

And there will only be one story told, mine.

The Other Whitey

If somebody breaks into my house, by doing so they are threatening my wife and children. Which means they die.

SFC D

It seems we have exactly the same security system. MRS D has her own .45 and she’s an RN. She knows how to make you bleed.

BlueCord Dad

Amen Sparks! Dead men tell no tales.

AnotherPat

“Pepper spray doesn’t cost much and it can be safely stored in a break glass in case of emergency cabinet. But it’s powerful and won’t accidentally kill a kid,” he continued. “Trust me, this will stop anybody in their tracks.”

I challenge him to use WASP Spray in his eyes..yep, you heard me…good ole WASP Spray, as in BUG Spray, the one with the long distance shot…and let someone else spray him not only in his eyes, but his nostrils, his mouth..

Me thinks he has been huffing too much pepper spray…

Why does he remind me of that scene in Indiana Jones, where Indiana is challenged by a bad guy with a whip…and Indiana pulls out his gun and shoots the bad guy dead? 😉

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Neighbor of mine did Church work and she and the other girls carried Wasp spray.

The Other Whitey

That was the single greatest moment in the history of cinema.

Hondo

Huge blade vice whip for Harrison Ford’s adversary, actually. And there’s a great backstory for that scene.

The scene was to be the last filmed before leaving Tunisia. Apparently Harrison Ford was sick as a dog that day with dysentery – and had been for some days. He couldn’t film for more than 10 min at a time as a result. So the original whip vs. sword fight scene would have taken days to film.

The night before, Ford proposed to Spielberg that they change the scene so that he just shot the guy with the sword. Spielberg bought it – and the result was one of the greatest movie scenes ever.

http://www.businessinsider.com/harrison-ford-reddit-ama-2014-4

The Other Whitey

I read a version that said it was a spur-of-the-moment thing and the sword-stunt guy just ran with it. Either way, it was awesome.

David

Someone else confirm: That was the ONLY movie we went to that year ( two babies, no COLA, times were tight.) Both my wife and I saw Indy look at the guy twirling that sword, say “Ah, hell” and shoot him. But on any video since, the Ah, hell has been edited out. Anyone else recall that?

AnotherPat

David, it makes sense Harrison Ford would say “Ah, Hell”..and the short clip I attached does look as if he is mouthing something.

Am trying to remember if that scene combined with those words happened as I, too, saw the movie in a Theater versus VHS/DVD. Guess it has been too long and that part of my brain that retains minute memories are now dust in the wind..i.e. I don’t remember…🤔

AnotherPat

TOW and Hondo:

You both are right!

It HAS been a long time since I watched that movie (explains mixing whip with sword), but that scene always struck me as being a classic:

https://youtu.be/anEuw8F8cpE

Thank you for sharing the trivia, Hondo.

Fjardeson

Harrison loves improv. In The Empire Strikes Back, as he’s being carbonited, Leia says “I love you”. Han says “I know”. (That wasn’t the line!)

FatCircles0311

Pepper spray > gun
Thanks for the wisdom party of slavery and domestic enemies.

The Other Whitey

Words that come to mind:

Dickhead
Moron
Asswipe
Retard
Idiot
Jerkoff
Nimrod
Shitbird
Slapdick
Cockmonger
Assbag
Knobgoblin
Limpdick

Did I miss any?

Besides, if pepper spray is so universally effective, why do cops carry guns? Why do they spend so much money to equip tasers? Why do they have batons? Getting pepper sprayed sucks, but it’s not a guaranteed stop, nor is it idiot-proof, nor is it suitable for every situation. All this stunt proves is that this guy is a pussy with questionable judgement.

The Al

Fucktard comes to mind rapidly

2/17 Air Cav

My personal favorite is Nimrod.

He has a gun and is 20 feet away. You have pepper spray which you have to go and get. Miraculously, you get it before he shoot. He fires and misses, as you dive to the floor. He shoots again and doesn’t miss.

Gun: 1
Pepper spray: 0

OldManchu

Operation Nimrod Dancer – 1989 – Panama.

Maybe he thinks of “Nimrod Dancer” and it leads him to a whole different nasty thought.

Poetrooper

Cav, I may be poaching on Hondo’s territory here but “nimrod” used to be an honorable term for a skilled hunter taken from the biblical Nimrod, Noah’s son and a great hunter. When I read your comment I had to look it up because I’d never heard it used as a negative term.

According to a Web reference it was actually Bugs Bunny, no less, who turned it into a pejorative, meaning someone clueless, with his constant reference to Elmer Fudd as a nimrod.

AnotherPat

TOW, How about:

Dummkopf
Baka
Lolo
Loco
Imbecile

Ret_25X

don’t forget:

chowderhead
mouth queef
pipsqueaking ass
pissant
turd burgler

The Other Whitey

If we’re going outside The English language, I’ll throw in:

Scheissekopf
Arschloch
Mudak
Figlio di puttana

And a few bits of Khmer profanity that my wife occasionally uses, but I have no freakin’ clue how to render in English. My wife never swears…in English.

AnotherPat

“My wife never swears..in English.”

Good one!😁 😅

Learned those words as an Army Brat at a young age. Boy, were we brutal with one another. One could always tell if one of our Moms were from other countries. There are more; just can’t recall the others, unless Bugs Bunny’s “What a Maroon” counts…and didn’t the Three Stooges have various expressions for “stupid”? 😉

The Other Whitey

Usually Moe would say “What’s the big idea?” and comic violence ensued.

Fjardeson

Left out:

Punto
Penjeho (SP?)
Mohicon

Too much time out on construction sites…

The Other Whitey

Pínche cabron
Pendejo

Sparks

I loved the “Break To Use Glass” case, you know, just in case anyone runs out of Tabasco Sauce. Nothing says you need it right now, better than being behind a wrist slashing glass window.

Fyrfighter

One small correction Jonn, sadly, this douche canoe is running for congress in my great state of Colorado, not Maryland.. the level of derp among the leftists running in this state this year is truly amazing / sad… they are clawing over each other to see who can be the farthest left, and with all the idiots that have moved here fro California, some of them actually have a good shot at getting elected.. I am more and more convinvced that the wall between us and mexico needs to extend between us and california (and oregon, and washington) as well..(sorry TOW)

The Other Whitey

I’m hoping for the Cal3 measure coming up on this year’s ballot. If successful, the LA-to-Monterey coastal state would be blue as ever (though San Luis would hate it), NorCal would be fairly purple thanks to SF and the Humboldt hippies, and SoCal (which is proposed to include most of the Central Valley and eastern Sierras) would be deep red.

I was pretty surprised that San Diego County went for Hillary last time around, but then I found out that the voter turnout was something like %148 percent. Three guesses how that happened!

Fyrfighter

Yeah, no shock there.. well, best of luck to ya TOW!

charles w

Yup…Between him and Polis we are truly fucked.

Fyrfighter

Don’t forget that douche that keeps talking about not being scared of the NRA… and Polis that queef, bought his way to every position he’s ever held, because of the money he inherited from his parents from blue mountain greeting cards ( i think that was the name.. original online card company they founded)..

charles w

And they are all running against Trump. Last I heard, Trump isn’t running for office in Colorado. Don’t get me started on Polis. Who has a vacation house in Weld county? But by all means lets elevate Walker Stapleton (Bush family favorite) to loose the race to one of these assholes.

Fyrfighter

Yeah, Robinson will be my first choice.. Mitchell second, and Stapleton third..

Dinotanker

Fyr,

I was thinking that if we just fortify the Cascade Mountain passes in WA and OR we would at least keep the productive (eastern) sides of those states sane…

Fyrfighter

Works for me! I’ve got a friend that lives in Pendelton that would whole heartedly agree

2/17 Air Cav

The thing is, that’s probably exactly what he’d look like if he ever had to use it for real. Well, gooey, stingy, burning face plus the new holes in him.

Jarhead

Looks as though he really got sprayed at the local sperm bank. He may be on to something just the same.
Why not spray all politicians and at least rid the country of a few. Recommend them running out into a busy 10 lane highway in So. Calif. during after work drive time would have made a real impression on voters. This guy seems every bit as intelligent as most of them.

CCO

His is sincere in his belief, but still wrong.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Break cabinet glass with what?. If he is anti gun then he has to be anti hammer because hammers are used more than guns in assaults.

Mark Lauer

A person can be shot several times with standard ammo, and still keep fighting. Even if struck in the heart by a bullet, there’s still enough oxygenated blood in the brain to keep going for 15 or more seconds.
A person can be wounded horribly, but still be able to fight.

And this dumb ass thinks that spraying pepper is more effective than using a gun??

Standard left wing politician; a moron.

Green Thumb

He should spray himself once a week.

After all, why take a chance?

OldSoldier54

What a dingleberry.

Nina

FYI – His actual name is

Levi Tillemann-Dick

Dad’s name was Timber Dick…for real.

Mason

That just may go down as the most epic name of all time!

He should change his name and immediately stop with the stupid campaign videos. Half the state would vote for him just to hear “Colorado Senator Timber Dick said today…”

NHSparky

That’s nothing.

There’s a guy up here by the name of Dick Swett.

Former Congressman. Trust me, I couldn’t make it up if I tried.

desert

or change it to “woody” lol

Skyjumper

Is he any relation to Harry Screws and Mike Hunt??

(banishing my self to the couch)

Dinotanker

Nina,

When I worked for one of the counties here in eastern Washington we had two farmers; Flint Steele and Blaze Opfar.

I always had to restrain myself from grinning big time when talking with them…

Good guys, but their parents had a bit of a sense of humor.

OWB

Maybe this will catch on among his fellow travelers and useful idiots. Much better than snacking on Tide pods. There might even be funding available to a small college somewhere n CO for an extended study. May we sell tickets to watch the proceedings?

Bobo

When I lived in Massachusetts, purchasing and carrying pepper spray required a firearms ID card, so you still had to go through the asspain of dealing with the local police chief. After that, you might as well just buy a gun.

We had to train guys for riot duty before deploying to Bosnia. One of the stations required getting sprayed with pepper spray then fighting through a line of soldiers wearing pads. Most were able to floor one or two on the line, and all made it through the line. I’m guessing that the person administering the spray to a determined attacker would suffer the same fate.

Lurker Curt

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

WHATAFUKKINDUMBASS!!!

SFC D

This could actually be worse than bringing a knife to a gunfight. Aaaaand what’s the first rule of a gunfight, boys and girls? C’mon, say it with me…

AW1Ed

Bring a gun.

The second rule is bring all your friends with THEIR guns.

USAF E-5

Have a story about a home grown Outlaw M/C member in Portage who was high on Angel Dust, Shot with a Shotgun, several .38’s, only pissed him off in the late 60’s. Finally hit him with a truck…The funny part? Well, the Sheriff’s Dept actually liked this guy…he was one of the “Good” Bikers. btw, he also lived to tell the tale.

HMC RET

I’ll voluntarily give up a handgun of my choice if he will shove a coconut up his ass. Those who want ‘reasonable gun control’ are FoS. What they really want is the confiscation of all guns, handguns as well as all long guns. Only then will they be happy. Unfortunately, that leave guns in the hands of the lowlife criminals, who sure as hell ain’t gonna give up their guns. The gun grabbers will then demand the army move into neighborhood homes to confiscate guns. That will be bloody.

E-6 type, 1 ea

No, I really don’t think they’ll go house to house to confiscate guns. I do think that they will try to do what the one town in Illinois did and ban them and place a very hefty fine for owning them. Then, when that doesn’t work, they’ll pass legislation to the effect of having firearms in your house is an immediate danger to children, and they’ll take your kids to “protect” them from your firearms. That is, unless you give up your firearms. You know, for the children.

I see that being much more plausible than the cops (who the Democrats hate now, btw) being tasked to go door to door searching houses and confiscating guns.

Jarhead

Comments by the two of you are both scary. Come what may, there will be a certain number of us who will refuse to the day we pass. None of made the sacrifices we did to have to put up with that kind of bullshit. We will end up being the Leave Me the Fuck Alone Generation. Will never threaten anyone for suggesting they intend to confiscate what I own, but I will guarantee if they come knocking on my door I’ll see the last morning of my life that day. Get in my way, get in my face with threats and it won’t be pretty.
Might be stupid for making such a response but I have lived a good life and I INTEND on going out naturally.

desert

I don’t either PH2….there are more hunters in this country with guns than all the armies in the world and a lot of civilians that are just as quick to protect their home and country! They better listen to Yamamoto! imo

m0311

The elderly need guns because have you ever seen them try to fight?

A Proud Infidel®™️

Pity that dumbass didn’t tase himself right after the self-spraying.

SGT Fon

just 2 points from my perspective….

1. Its not allowed in NYS and is a big nono in NYC
2. he has never apparently tried to use the stuff on someone that smoked angel dust.

E-6 type, 1 ea

Or the people it just flat out doesn’t affect. For a security job I had we had to get sprayed. One guy got sprayed, looked at the instructor for about 10 seconds, and goes “that’s it? I’ve had chili hotter than that” and then goes and sits down. Didn’t bother the guy at all.

Me, on the other hand…

Stacy0311

Training tip (or so I was told last time I went through OC certification)
If you spray someone with and oil based OC spray DO NOT use a Tazer on them after spraying them. It allegedly could cause the OC spray to catch fire.

E-6 type, 1 ea

Boy, wouldn’t that be just a gull-durned shame.

SFC D

It’d look like a Richard Pryor rerun.

RetiredDevilDoc8404

So this idiot wants to bring pepper spray to a gun fight – genius. Only slightly dumber than bringing a knife to a gun fight. Having participated in the evolution with my Marines where you get sprayed with OC, this dinkweed doesn’t realize you can still function after getting OC’d. I discovered that before ever participating in that fun little evolution with the Marines, we had a cop spray an unruly drunk prisoner in the back of the ambulance one fine Friday night while I was trying to start an IV. I got some, drunk got some, cop got some by proxy, partner got some by proxy; I still got the line (14ga. BTW, all my unruly drunks got BIG lines), after that I acquired a few 12ga. lines for drunks who got me OC sprayed never got to use them – I took them to Iraq for chest decompression.

Jarhead

I’m looking forward to the day he castrates himself…for birth control.

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