A Slap In the Face
On 9/3/2017, an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council was requested by he United States, Japan, France, the United Kingdom, and the Republic of Korea Request
Here’s the press release: https://usun.state.gov/remarks/7952
This is a link to the transcript of Amb. Nikki Haley’s address at the Emergency UN Security Council Briefing on 9/4/2017: https://usun.state.gov/remarks/7953
You must read it before you react. She is not mincing words in this address at all. To quote her final sentence: “Twenty-four years of half measures and failed talks is enough. Thank you.”
Here is a transcript of her additional remarks https://usun.state.gov/remarks/7954
Ambassador Nikki Haley
U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations
U.S. Mission to the United Nations
New York City
September 4, 2017
AS DELIVERED
Mr. President, due to the urgency of the situation with the nuclear test, as well as the announcement by North Korea that they are planning for another ICBM test, we want to urge the Council to move very quickly on this.
I think that North Korea basically has slapped everyone in the face in the international community that has asked them to stop, so the United States will be circulating a resolution that we want to negotiate this week and vote on on Monday. So just wanted to let the members know.
I know that some are going to Addis, but we wanted to make sure that we will do that on Monday when we can get those negotiations finished. Thank you.
” slapped everyone in the face” is not mincing words at all.
Fatty Kim da T’ird is itching for a fight. As Amb. Haley says, he wants a war. That much is as clear as a bell. Anyone who thinks that, because I point and snicker at him, I don’t take him seriously, is badly mistaken.
I grew up under the constant implied threat of nuclear war with Red China and the Soviet Union. Our house was barely 10 miles from ground zero in a target city, with a heavy equipment factory, a grain processing plant, an electronics factory, a tire factory and a sizable railyard. Those are still in place today, as well as an additional grain processing plant. Both of these companies process corn and soybeans for the fuels industry. In addition to these, the hospital where my mother worked is now a major medical teaching hospital, and the university that I graduated from has expanded its curriculum exponentially into current events, as well as adding two new master’s degree programs some time back.
Any large city was a target city, whether it was New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, or Washington, DC, and whether or not it was near a military base. Pensacola, FL, was and still is home to Navy tech schools and ships, and a naval aviation training command. It was a target city then and still is today.
I think it’s far past time we got (Vlad Putin) Russia and (Xi Jinping) China, along with Japan, France, Israel and South Korea, into the White House for another kitchen table conference. And maybe it’s time someone put the screws to Iran, once and for all. Vlad Putin (smooches) has stated that sanctions do not work on North Korea. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/850109/north-korea-news-latest-war-usa-trump-nuclear-bomb-missile-test-launch-south
I miss the Cold War more than I thought I would.
Category: North Korea, Nukes, Politics
I think now is the time to start squeezing him hard, set up a multinational blockade that includes the Chinese and Russians, I mean stop all international commerce and traffic, nothing in nothing out, if it persists let make the first move then specifically target him.
That’s a good start. How about someone accidentally drops a fat explosive round on the USS Pueblo where it sits, just to show ’em we can?
How about we come up with a way of repatriating the Pueblo with out them knowing, a la David Copperfield but with SOF and tranquilizers.
How about SOF and live ammo? They think they got away with the Pueblo. They need to pay. Either steal her back from a port full of dead Norks, or reduce her and the surrounding facilities to cinders. An unequivocal “fuck you.”
That ship can’t move on its own. It would have to be towed out of its spot, which is probably anchoring it in place with concrete tonnage, too.
Better to destroy it with a Big-Assed-Bomb and sneer at the Norks afterwards.
I’ve thought about the sinking of the USS Pueblo myself, although I want to go with killing them with kindness and use a 1000 pounds of concrete and a thousand pounds of rice, but I guess it would take more than one of those.
Or we could bomb it and then follow with leaflets which mock the Fat Little Basterd.
He had a sketchy hold on his seat when he started. Everything he has done, including slaughtering senior officials at will, was done to cement his grip on the Seat of Power for him.
Bombing the Pueblo, since it can’t move on its own and would have to be towed, removes it from the Norks’ grasp.
But we should first try to shoot down his birds, period. The Hwasong-14 can carry a bigger payload than the Hwasong-12 and go further. And our ‘allies’ need to practice targeting those THAAD systems, you know. 🙂
You can see it on google maps in satellite mode. Fairly interesting where they parked it.
Technology is amazing these days.
Isn’t it?
it is in the middle of the Potong river, close that ghost pyramid hotel they never finished.
I don’t think it can be towed to the sea.
No it can’t be towed, its penned in too. I guess they really want to keep her.
If you want a good chuckle some of the google reviews for the surrounding businesses are pretty damn funny.
MOAB anyone????
Mother of all beers?
Excellent idea.
Bullshyt….GO GET THE PUEBLO and bring it home!
Mike Huckabee Said America Has Secret Weapon capable of destroying Kim Jong Un – and that secret weapon is Maxine Waters. I seldom agree with politicians however I think the Honorable Mr. Huckabee may be on to something her.
Sick ’em!
WTF is the United Nothing good for other than for the leeches that cling to it sucking up money and benefits while providing barely more than nothing when it comes to results? IMHO fatty ‘lil Kim-Cheese is throwing hissy fits expecting the US and the UN to cower, give him money and materiel just like the goddamn Clinton and 0bama administrations did. REMEMBER how “Blowjob Willie” touted how giving them all that money and means on a fake promise that they wouldn’t use it for war? Jimmeh Kahtuh also thought it was a great idea too, and President Trump’s predecessor thought it a bright idea to give the Iranians the same, THANKS, SHITHEADS!!! I remember being a wet-behind-the-ears Joe fresh from Engineer OSUT at Fort Lost-in-the-Woods at the “Tyrtle Farm” at Camp Casey in the early 90’s when they told us about how we then had Tactical Nuclear Warheads somewhere and leaving that place you passed under an arch saying “YOU ARE NOW PART OF THE WORLD’S MOST POWERFUL DIVISION”. Sadly Daddy bush 41 presumably got rid of the Nukes to appease Dictator Kim the First to no avail and I think Vlad Putin is right, FUCK sanctions, fatty ‘lil Kim-Cheese is hissy-fitting thinking it will get him something just like a spoiled toddler bawls for candy expecting some if they continue.
Nowadays we have a few fleabag tinpot dictatorships that can fuck things up worldwide because we allowed Nuclear Proliferation to happen, anyone have any faith or trust in the Pakistanis? They also have the bomb!
Yeah, blackmail never works, does it, API?
You give the bully your lunch money, the next thing he wants is your car and your sister.
Mmmmyeah, somewhat like a parent being surprised when their kid suddenly bawls for TWO lollipops when that thought offering one would appease the kid into shutting up!
Well, which sister? One of the two I would happily dump on that bully.
Oh, not the lanky, skinny one with bony legs who can hit a softball out of the park.
He wants the blonde, cuddly one that down the road turns into a couch potato with six chins.
The lanky, bony girl turns into a supermodel and banks huuuuuge sums of cash and dates hot guys like Sting or your kid brother, who wasn’t such a hot tamale until he went USMC and got some scars.
But bullies don’t see that far into the future, and neither does that Fat Little Basterd in North Korea.
Almost forgot the car. Your car? It’s the one your Dad bought, a wickerbill 1960 Dodge with a crappy green paint job and no FM stations on the radio, but you get to drive it and your daddy sells it to you for $50 of your paper delivery money, while he goes out and buys a 1961 Chevy Impala white-over-red, with chrome spinner wheels and doesn’t let you drive it.
Then later on, you see the bully at a homecoming event and he’s still driving that old Dodge, and you’re driving a Porsche Carrera.
Now you got me thinking of a kid who used to give me shit in school. He’s now a barely-functional drunk in the shitty trailer park outside of town who couldn’t keep a tree-trimming service in business.
Me? Career, hot wife, three kids, just bought a new house, new truck last year, gun collection…
I saw that little fucker a few years ago. He recognized me, then disappeared out the nearest exit.
Braggart.
What do they say in Texas?
Cold War Memories (i.e., “Nightmares”)
Although I didn’t understand the implications, as a small Army brat in the Second Grade at Ashiya Air Force Base, Japan, I remember the bomb shelter behind the school, and air raid drills.
I remember how scared I was when I was an Army brat living in El Paso, Texas, and watching the B-58 “Hustler” bombers, B-47 “Stratojet” bombers, and B-52 “Stratofortress” bombers taking off from Biggs Air Force Base.
I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis, and how terrified I was when I was a teenager locked up in the state mental institution in Raleigh, North Carolina, knowing there was no possibility of escaping the coming conflagration.
I remember when I became a soldier in the United States Army that I was glad I was not on a Navy ship or on an Air Force Base, where I’d be a sitting duck, with no hope of escape, but as a soldier, I still had a chance if I survived the initial blast, and worst came to worst, I was trained by the Army to maneuver and live off the land.
Ironically, as a soldier in the United States Army, I found myself stationed on an Air Force Base in Germany, surrounded by Nike missile installations, facing off against the Russians.
That’s why I liked being in Viet Nam, because there, I was always armed, and always had my combat gear with me.
I remember being a patrolman for the Department of Defense Police at Hill Air Force Base and hearing the air raid siren when a computer glitch had us within mere seconds of an accidental global nuclear war with Russia.
Now, I’m an old man, living in a small community in the mountains and high desert of the “Outlaw Trail” country of the Great American West, where everyone is armed, and everyone takes care of each other.
What are YOUR memories of the Cold War?
Where you frightened as a child growing up?
Your Facebook page says you were a Cav scout MOS 11D20.
Cav scout is 19D.
It also says you worked at the Fort Hood NCO Academy, but minimum rank to be an SGL is E6/SSG, yet you claim making it only to E5 SGT.
What gives?
Should I suspect you?
During the Vietnam era, 11D was the MOS for Cav Scout. 11E was the MOS for Armor Crewman. The 19 series of MOSs all were related to rotary wing. Believe it or not, the Army changes things over time.
Also, instructors aren’t the only people that work at NCO Academies. Pretty sure JRM had a signal MOS when he was on active duty. Possibly he worked at the academy in that capacity.
Yes, if you look in the members’ photos section, there’s a photo of him doing something with a PRC (don’t know which model). What went on in the 1960s changed a lot over time.
Hush, Yef. Grownups are talking.
Rgr Sergeant.
Doing push ups time now.
He would love to explain it to you, but he doesn’t have any crayons! 😉
Believe it or not Yef, the Army has changed a few things over the years. Some good, some bad. MOSs went through a huge sweeping adjustment back in the 90s.
I went to PLDC in 1995 and one of my instructors was an E-5.
This is what happens when you smoke the ganja, you get paranoid…..
Rgr Master Sergeant.
I can see that.
PLDC became WLC, warrior leader course, and now is BLC, basic leader course.
I have no idea what PLDC stood for, but I think is Personal Leadership Development Course, or something like that.
PLDC = Primary Leadership Development Course.
OR Pickle Licking Dick Chomp.
I’ve held 26Q, 31Q, 31M, 31R, 31W, and 25W. All because of MOS designation changes by big Army and career progression.
I was a 91B once upon a time (Field Medical Specialist) no it’s 18W, or some such… Things do change
@ YEF:
I did not “work” at the III Corps NCO Academy, I was a graduate.
When I was in the Cavalry, the Scout MOS was 11D20.
It’s been changed since then, as have numerous other MOS codes.
Go ahead and “suspect” me all you want to.
I have paperwork to back up everything I have.
Not only do I have DD-214s, which can be forged, but I also have my 201 File and my Form 20, which your average run-of-the-mill impostor has never heard of.
Ok. Fair enough.
Don’t take it personally. I suspect absolutely everybody, including myself.
I have seen so much embellishment throughout my Army life that it is ridiculous. I have seen people embellish firefights that I have been in, and then tell it to me like I was a newbie watching a Rambo movie.
That’s okay, Yef, I like to tell people that I was in the Navy when John Paul Jones was running a 4-gun sloop along the eastern US coast.
They never heard of him, have no idea what a sloop is, and they don’t approve of guns.
It’s fun yanking their chains.
I’ve heard of the Sloop John B.
I played Pirates, the computer game, so I know an sloop is a single masted vessel, very fast in front of the wind, used for trade and coastal guard, and a favorite of pirates.
The so called War Sloop can mount up to 12 carronade guns and carry 100 angry dudes.
Can we view the Fat Little Basterd the way John Paul Jones viewed the British fleet?
“I may sink, but I’ll be damned if I strike.”
I got you beat ph, I was 1st mate on Noah’s boat! 😉
“I suspect absolutely everybody, including myself.”
kinda silly to even be here then really…maybe you should pull the wings off flies or burn ants with a magnifying glass instead 🙂
Damn that shit is funny yet very deep! I’m going to steal it!
Yef…. dude stop stepping on your crank. JRM is an old timer here, no need to question him or his service.
In school in Houston during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
We regularly practiced getting under the desks with our hands over the back of our necks. We didn’t do that in the ’60’s in high school. Some of those short dresses would have made that an interesting exercise – for the boys.
I don’t remember any particular fear. Dad was a WWII infantry combat vet. He was matter of fact about the threat – nothing hidden – but we were not unduly alarmed.
I would’ve loved to have done that in high school in the 80s.
Open stairwells were pretty close.
Shoot – just letting the girls go ahead of you on the stairs could be enlightening.
Ah, the days of youth…
I did it in early elementary in the late 70’s! Still tell my kids about it. 2nd grade was last time if memory serves me faithfully.
In St. Louis we not only did duck ‘n cover in the ’50s but had B-58s doing sonic booms over the city – the rationale was that St. Louis and Moscow resemble each other from the air. Got real good at hearing the boom in the sky HERE and learning to look about 20 degrees over THERE to see who made the noise.
@ DAVID:
I’ve been to Saint Louis, Missouri, and I’ve been to Moscow, Idaho.
I don’t think they look at all alike.
By the way, my name is David, too.
I was adopted, so that’s why my name is now John Robert Mallernee.
But, when I was born, my name was David Roy Trueblood.
Being adopted means I have TWICE the ancestors and TWICE the heritage of most other folks.
Nifty, huh?
I’ve been to Moscow, MI!
I was a short timer when he missile crisis went off….scared to death they were going to extend us! lol turns out, should have stayed in anyway!
I’m just saying ‘Bring back the Cold War’. When it ended, the relatively stable peace was tangible. Yes, We and the Bear poked at each other occasionally, and Krushchev did try to be the schoolyard bully but failed when Kennedy ordered the US Navy to blockade Soviet ships and embargoed the island of Cuba.
President Reagan was right to bomb Libya. This business of tolerating tinpot dictators like (whoever is in charge of) ISIs/Daesh and Norkiland does not work. They need to be slapped down good and hard.
I was a Senior in high school when Ronald Reagan made Khadaffi STFU via a bombing raid on his turf! Kinda slightly ironic that we blew the walls off of the french Embassy in Libya when they wouldn’t let our planes fly over their turf to get there, ain’t it?
I’m seeing some sketchy reports of Kim transporting what may be an ICBM to his West coast launch facility. I’ll post up when more info becomes available.
If you can get pictures, too, that would be great, AW1Ed.
is there any way we can target the fat babydick cheeseminator and end this with one bomb/missile?
Sensor technology has advanced so much…we should be able to pinpoint his location.
Guys like that tend to be good at personal security and counterintelligence…even if they are hopelessly incompetent at everything else.
I’m told it was similar with Saddam…all his palaces had to have dinner ready every night, because they didn’t know whether to expect him, and as you can see — even though the war was very personal about him and his regime, and even with the agonizingly long run-up, our only effort at “decapitation” was a failure, and we had to find him much later, after the country was conquered.
And Kim, I suspect, is better at this than Saddam was.
If hostilities pick up again, sure. Currently, we are not able to assassinate world leaders. It’d be great if the Chinese killed him off and installed their own puppet. At least we’d have less to worry about.
If the North shoots first, you can bet Kim Jong Cartman will be safely in a bunker somewhere prior, after 50 lookalikes drive in 50 different directions out of his palace.
When is the next scheduled ‘All NorK Mil Parade”? Da Fatty always shows up for those. We could drop a MOAB on the reviewing stand and decapitate the whole government and take out a couple of his divisions at the same time. It is rumored that he has a son waiting in the wings, so we would have to deal with him as well.
One thing I have not seen in the news – I believe that the signature of a hydrogen bomb is pretty distinctive… takes a fission bomb to trigger, so it has a unique double-pulse that supposedly is very easy for our instruments to pick up. Last time Kim announced a hydrogen bomb, that signature was not detected – has anyone seen any confirmation on that ye? All I have seen are yield estimates.
There were two events in this last explosion. The first was a 6.3M seismic event, which was followed closely by a second seismic event at 4.8M. Since the explosions were underground, the claim that it was 100 KT is probably guesswork, but in June, he set off what he claimed was an H-bomb – a thermonuclear detonation – which registered as a 5.1M seismic event, again buried underground.
Whatever it is he’s doing, he’s up to something and the results are being detected by seismometers put in place to pick up the activity.
A pure H-bomb is a hypothetical fusion bomb that doesn’t require a fission bomb to set it off. Maybe he found a way to do that.
“H bomb” is a misnomer. They are properly “thermonuclear” not “hydrogen”.
100KT is about right for a basic two-stage thermonuke, or a -really- big boosted-fission weapon.
Considering that we and the Russians created thermonuclear weapons with the technology of the 1950s, there is no reason why the DPRK could not create them with today’s technology.
They are not really “inventing” the things. The physics for the basic weaponry is well published. What they are doing is re-creating some of the subtle engineering work, like how to keep sensitive electronics from frying when placed next to sources of neutrons and hard ionizing radiation. And then how to make the thing survive a sustained kick in the ass at 7+ gees when launched on a rocket. The explosives used are a surprisingly fine art. You need some -very- powerful-for-weight explosives, which tend to be rather unstable. (And kicking this mess at 7+ gees…) You also have to shape the explosion in ways explosions generally do not normally resemble. You have to make a -nuclear explosion- turn radically around and back inward to set off the secondary. If the H3 tritium you use in the thing isnt -very- fresh, it contains He3 decay product, which -eats- neutrons like Cookie Monster in the Oreos.
But the DPRK advantage, is that not only do they -know- it can be done and has been done, they can buy or steal all the know-how needed to do the job. So for them, it is just time and money and effort, and not nearly what it was for us.
Ever hear the Tom Leher song “who’s next?”
Evening news update: South Korea is engaging in live fire exercises in response to the North’s refusal to stop testing and making threatening noises.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/04/south-korea-holds-second-live-fire-drill-after-north-koreas-hydrogen-bomb-test.html
Here’s an update from the Sydney Morning Herald, a tad closer to Norkiland than we are. There are a couple of photos that are suspected of being the site of the Cheeseslayer’s underground nuclear testing. The concern of the article is that the mountain site used for underground testing may collapse and let out ‘many bad things’, a rather childlike way of saying ‘we may be screwed by this’.
At the end of the article is the speculation that the Norks may be on their way to generate an atmospheric EMP, which could shut down electronic communications in the US. What that writer forgets is that an EMP knows no difference between the US and North Korea and EMPs spread outward from their source, thereby also rendering the Norks silent. But if you wake up and your phone doesn’t work and you can’t get a signal on your tablet or whatever, it’s probably an EMP, or could be a strong solar flare, too.
Anyway, here’s the link. I’m sure there will be more tomorrow.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/kim-jonguns-north-korea-nuclear-test-mountain-may-collapse-let-out-many-bad-things-20170905-gyb8dp.html
An EMP high over the USA would be “over the horizon” to the DPRK, thus of no effect.
If they try to zorch Japan, they jave to be more careful, but could still do so safely.
Keep in mind that they are using much older tech in many uses, and vacuum tube radios, for example, are very EMP hardy. Ditto old fashioned diesel trucks.
EMP is a -very- tempting option for places like the DPRK.
But who uses vacuum tube radios now? Can you even get those old vacuum tubes? Does someone have a box of them in his attic?
I’m less concerned about an EMP burst from the Norks than I would be about a solar flare affecting the power grid where I live. We still have a coal fired power station that supplies us, and there’s another one 12 miles north of where I live. I get tired of people having hysterics over nuclear power by the uninformed idiots who want to shut it down because ‘radioactive!!!’ even when you can’t detect it.
The DPRK and Cuba still use tube-based systems. Radars, for example.
Mig-21 fighters were built with tubes in the avionics. They remain in use, and are inherently EMP resistant.
Some musicians swear by tube-driven amps, over chips or transistors.
Here’s the page set up by the US Geologic Survey regarding the M6.3 explosion detected in North Korea on Monday.
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us2000aert#executive
This is in case anyone thinks this is all talking through my hat.
Well, I’d still like to wake up some mornin’ soon and find out SOKO had become an island.
“I miss the Cold War more than I thought I would”
I miss knowing for certain who the enemy was. I actually miss the fucking hippies because they didn’t get triggered over every little word, and look for safe spaces when the cops hit them in the head with night sticks.
Yeah. Things just made more sense.
Even Vlad Putin is speaking up about the Norks now, and not in a good way.
Last one of the evening. This is a link to several articles in exxpress.co.uk. Putin is saying bluntly sanctions don’t work, we are heading for catastrophe.
http://www.express.co.uk/latest/north-korea
Here’s a Google Earth image of the mountainous area that is used as the nuke testing site. The force of this last explosion apparently caused a large number of landslides.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41170940
I have swallowed the anchor and no longer voyage in my old Catalina 34 sloop
I have downsized to a Picnic Cat 14 foot gaff rigged cat boat
One mast all the way in the front of the boat
Sloops have the one mast about one third of the way back from the bow (front)
Sloops usually have a smaller job sail in front of the mast
I graduated high school in 1975 in Brooklyn and we had no air raid drills
There was a sign for a fallout shelter
That was it
Jonn………….WHY am I still be moderated??