If You Want to See A Real Liberal Jerk in Action . . . (Part 2)
Well, here ya go. Different kind from that highlighted Poetrooper’s last article on the same subject, though.
This one’s a CNN host – Fareed Zakaria. Yeah, I know: that’s a “shocker”. (smile)
Here’s the money quote from a recent interview (emphasis added):
“The election of Donald Trump is really a kind of class rebellion against people like us, educated professionals who live in cities, who have cosmopolitan views about things.”
In short: according to “Progressive” tools those highly educated, Metrosexual Euroweenie “cosmopolitan” types like Lord Fareed here, anyone from the peasant working class – or who otherwise doesn’t agree with him – should just shut up and color. Obviously, they should let their “betters” (AKA the Socialist “Progressive elite”) run the show.
Oh, and later in the interview he plays the “racism” card, too. What a surprise.
Sheesh. And his ilk claims that his side represents the interests of the “Little Guy”? That’s like an English Lord from the 1400s claiming he understands the peasants’ concerns and issues – when in reality he doesn’t give a damn about what happens to them at all, so long as he’s safe and comfortable in his Manor House.
Yo, Zakaria: did you ever think that maybe 8 years of failed Socialism Progressive policy under the previous SCoaMF – which Clintoon sought to continue – might have had something to do with Trump’s election? Along with the fact that Clintoon was one of the most personally disagreeable and seemingly financially corrupt Presidential candidates in history?
Both Fox News and the Washington Free Beacon have short articles giving a few more quotes from Lord Foot-in-mouth here. They’re worth a read.
Sheesh. What a freaking arrogant, elitist ass.
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Well, frack me dead! The SH and IT finally reached the surface of the cesspool.
I did wonder how long it would take for this assholio attitude to finally float to the surface. It finally happened, and it took less than a year. I thought it would take at least 18 months. My mistake in underestimating Dah Stoopid with them.
Now if only the Republicans I assume most of us helped vote into office will just learn to govern…unimpressed so far…what can they fuck up next…tax reform?
To quote Mel Brooks:
“I am their sovereign! These are my people! PULL! (Just a little to the left.)”
Its good to be da King.
I see too much stupid in real life to watch CNN.
Why pay attention to yapping ankle-nippers?
We must pay attention to them, Graybeard. That was the lesson of the barbarians at the gate.
To summarize his lecture:
Liberal weenies on both coasts & Chicago don’t think “blue collar folks” & farmers in the “fly over states” should have a say in government. Oh, and 50 years after Civil Rights legislation & a 2 term black president America is now “filled with racists”.
P.S. I still hear leftist operatives crying about the “electorial” college…Jeez-us H. Christ people! It’s pronounced Electoral College, and no way 40 states are going to vote themselves into irrelevancy. That is all
One would hope that’s true HT3, but 40 states did ratify the 17th amendment, to allow direct elections of Senators, which you could reasonably argue has contributed to the irrelevancy of the states…So there is a precedent
Actually, that’s arguable. By the time the 17th Amendment was passed, at least 33 of the then-48 states were conducting primaries to choose senatorial candidates. These primaries were, in effect, direct elections of Senators in those states – since legislators routinely went along with the primary election results (and were bound by law to do so in some states).
The thing gets me is that the electoral college has been in effect for a loong time – plenty of time to see how it works. Winning the popular vote and losing the electoral one just demonstrates that the people running the losing party apparently didn’t take the time to pay attention to how it works – they lost because they were lazy, complacent, and didn’t care about voters in certain parts of the country, whereas Trump’s people had a full understanding of how the college works. Sour grapes. Maybe next time they’ll hire some PolySci majors that payed attention in class…
38 states, actually. 75% of 50 is 37.5, which means 38 states would be all that would be required to ratify a Constitutional Amendment.
Of course, that also means 13 states could block an amendment’s ratification. Currently, half of the states have 7 or fewer electoral votes. Good luck convincing over 1/2 of them to abolish the Electoral College in favor of direct election.
I could think of several that would be happy to cut their own throats: Vermont, New Hampshire (sometimes), Maine, New Mexico, Hawaii, Delaware, just for starters.
Regardless, I can name 13 states that would be voting no before the ink on the Amendment paperwork was dry, assuming 2/3 of the House and Senate were stupid enough to agree to this.
Thanks for the clarification Hondo, I was generalizing, obviously your numbers are more accurate, though i still believe that it stands true that by going to direct election of Senators (before or because of the 17th) states diminished their own power
“Liberal weenies on both coasts & Chicago don’t think “blue collar folks” & farmers in the “fly over states” should have a say in government”. http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=73730&cpage=1#comment-3020168 (above)
Yeah, it’s the farmers who produce the food these liberal weenies have on their plates, whether it’s green stuff grown on vast acreages in various states and countries, including Chile, Mexico, Florida, Washington, Wisconsin, etc. – you get the drift – or the meat on their plates, even if it’s fake meat made of soybeans.
If they piss off enough farmers and treat them with the kind of disdain that Clinton evinced on her very first campaign stop in Iowa, and all it takes is two years of NOT farming to remove food from their dinner plates.
Remember, soylent green is people.
As for ‘blue-collar workers’, well, anyone who works at a machine assembly plant or drives one of those big Terex trucks for a mining, or drives a train with miles of cars hooked on behind it gets my respect miles ahead of the snot-nosed elistist crowd who can’t even do their own nails, never mind tie their own shoes.
When you spit on the basic understructure that supports your society, it’s quite easy for that understructure to abandon you to your fate.
I think they consider anyone who is beneath their social class ‘blue-collar workers’.
If you don’t have political connections, don’t work in DC, don’t have millions of dollars (to donate to the DNC and Democratic campaigns), and don’t have 2+ houses, you are either a blue-collar worker OR you are beneath that and need the gummint’s (their) help to live your life ‘correctly’. But, you only deserve their help if you vote for their party.
For one of the “educated city dwelling, cosmopolitan, thinking people”, this guy sure is one of the dumbest cocksuckers I’ve ever heard..
Probably wouldn’t know a cow from a tractor.
I guarantee you this limp-wristed jerkoff wouldn’t know a shovel if you stuck it up his ass.
Give him a shovel and he’d claim you were trying to enslave him.
These idiots wouldn’t know how to raise dandelions.
They are dandelions.
Dandelions are useful. The greens are edible and nutritious. Some folks make a tea from the roots. If I’m not mistaken, one can even make a dye from them.
Therefore, these folks are not dandelions, for they are not useful. QED
and booze 🙂
Really? That’s one I’ve not heard about.
Most of my uses for wild plants come from survival manuals, and taking the time to make booze is usually not real high on the priority list in those publications. Especially around Boy Scouts…
Dandelion wine.
Twirl it around and jerk his chickenshit guts out with it, I bet he’d remember that.
I bet he would Mark, he’s probably familiar with cows from “farm animal friday”…
This tool has always been a clown.
CNN,(clinton news network/communist news network) so what else is new. I do not watch either cnn nor msnbc, but most of the banks and doctors offices down here in Palm Beach County, Fl. have these stations on and the seniors watching them think that they are the Gospel. I’m a senior but not a member of their ilk.
Hey, Fareed! Place your lips on my Black Irish ass and proceed accordingly! And if you want to engage in a battle of wits, I’ll be happy to oblige you. What’s your preferred subject? History? Geography? Art? Literature? Linguistics? Engineering? Chemistry? Basic math?
Come get some, pussy.
Wait, you’re Irish? Holy shit my mind is blown…
Uh, how is that news? I mean, yeah, I don’t drink, but still…
TOW, you should know that you can’t engage in a battle of wits with someone who, like Fareed, is only half-armed.
Are you actually disagreeing with the basis of his statement?
A lengthy breakdown is available here:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/
Urban counties shifted towards Clinton, Rural counties towards Trump. The education gap increased the trend in Obama-Romney the previous election.
See the rural urban divide on immigration here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/rural-america/?utm_term=.c179881aa6a8
So the basics of the statement – highly educated, urbanites were much more likely to support Clinton over Trump than previous election, where the inverse about rural voters without college education, is also true.
What about stating that is arrogant or elitist?
TN, I don’t believe it’s the facts of who voted for who thats at issue, it’s the obvious implication that those with less education are therefore less intelligent, and voted “wrong” by not falling in line with their “betters”
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
Shack! Well said, Fyrfighter.
I for one am getting to be quite sick of repeatedly hearing from liberal media blowhards that people from rural areas with less ‘education’ are somehow less intelligent, less insightful, and/or less informed than their arrogant, elitist urbanite ‘betters’.
Simply possessing a college degree in no way automatically makes one ‘intelligent’ by any stretch of the imagination.
Sorry, I watched the clip on Free Beacon and didn’t get any of that. Perhaps my educated, urban bias is showing.
“There’s a part of America that is sick and tired of being told what to do by this overeducated population that Hillary Clinton perfectly represented. That’s why they’re sticking with him,” Said Fareed Zakaria.
Zakaria’s speaking to an audience of overeducated, coastal elites trying to persuade them they are communicating poorly with these voters. Or that was the point of the segment.
I guess if Zakaria’s segment offended, it just provides more evidence the urban elite cannot effectively communicate with rural … non-elite?
Actually, it appears to indicate you have a problem recognizing insufferable arrogance when you agree with the sentiment expressed.
The statement I quoted above by Zakaria, to any objective reader, is condescending, arrogant, and clearly indicates the speaker believes himself superior to ANYONE who has a different opinion or who is not “cosmopolitan” enough to suit him. Whether he realizes it or not, he’s speaking exactly like a stereotypical “fat cat country club scene” guy/gal would when discussing poor people of any ethnic background. Specifically, he’s looking down his nose at them – bigtime.
That attitude is absolutely, positively, clear to anyone not reading the passage through ideologically-tinted glasses. The fact that it may contain some truth is irrelevant to the fact that it’s condescending, arrogant, and offensive.
In other words: it’s exactly something you’d expect to hear from a liberal Jerk. Had someone of a conservative bent said anything remotely similar, he or she would be being crucified by both you and the press.
I know you don’t know me, I’ve lurked, then commented, apparently pigeonholed myself. I respect you based on a lot of things you’ve posted and its difficult to convey.
But I’m not a tone police guy, and I don’t think crucifixion-by-media is something that exists with or without my participation. There are plenty of conservative firebrands that, as you put it:
“The fact that it may contain some truth is irrelevant to the fact that it’s condescending, arrogant, and offensive.”
And its fine. People have an outlet, they earn an audience, there are infinite opportunities to have biases spoon-fed back to you by well dressed men on TV.
I’ve never watched Zakaria’s CNN show. My recollection of him was his support of Sam Hunington’s “Clash of Civilization” articles and contributions to the book, and the post-9/11 article eviscerating the “chickens come home to roost” article.
Here is a 2003 article about Zakaria which kind of describes my recollection: the Reagan-ite foreign policy hawk talking up the invasion of Iraq:
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politics/national/features/n_8621/
The article should demonstrate, outside of the tribalism that has overrun contemporary political discussion, that Zakaria is so elitist he wouldn’t know how to function without it.
Zakaria’s been all over the map, politically, during his career. He indeed supported the 2003 Iraq invasion – for a year or two. Then he decided it didn’t look “good”, and turned against it. IMO today he seems far more liberal in his policies and positions than he was 15 years ago. I suspect his having become over that period part of the “media elite” is the root cause of that – he likely had to “fit in” to become a major player.
In short: it’s almost as if Zakaria holds his finger up to see which way the “political wind” is blowing, then takes a position accordingly vice sticking to principles. That’s not exactly something I admire in an individual.
You are correct that some conservative media figures are a-holes and hypocrites as well. But IMO there seem to be far fewer, proportionally, of those than the proportion of liberal a-holes and hypocrites in positions of influence. Moreover, they seem to get regularly called out by the rest of the conservative press. That only rarely happens to liberal commentators who get out of line in the mainstream media. Their gaffes are routinely downplayed (“what he said wasn’t that bad” or “that was a one-time slip; he’s a good guy”) – or buried on page 13 – vice pilloried.
The media performs an essential function in our society. But the mainstream media hasn’t even pretended to be objective and neutral in their coverage of politics since the Eisenhower administration, if not before.
,” I watched the clip on Free Beacon and didn’t get any of that.”
Of course not. You are obviously one of those less educated bumpkins, unsophisticated and incapable of detecting nuance and subtext.
Your educated, urban bias is showing.
Similar to the MIT douchebag (Jonathan Gruber) who helped the democrats pass Obamacare by “relying on the stupidity of the american voter” but then denying he had anything to do with it after he got called out on it.
Of course when a Republican (i.e., Romney) says something to that effect, they are considered “racist” or “homophobic” or “elitist” or “sexist” or “hitler” or all of the above. (More bias)
In other words, “we are Democrats, we are allowed to tell you that you are stupid, uneducated, privileged, elitist, bias, bigoted, etc. But don’t you DARE profile us at all!”
Hmm, I like Romney, I don’t recall him saying anything like what Gruber said.
I also don’t recall the racism, homophobia, sexist, and certainly not Hitler.
But elitist… come on, sometimes you just have to own who you are… Romney never seemed comfortable being who he was when he ran for national office. That lack of authenticity didn’t help. He had very little in common with the average American. But he was also a very decent and honest family man. He was very competent and humble when he was given responsibility or power.
The assumption that urban, “educated” folks are any smarter or more knowledgeable than rural folks is definitely arrogant and elitist.
Having been around the block a time or two, and matriculating at several (alleged) institutions of higher learning, I can testify that “educated” urbanites are at least as stupid and ignorant as their country cousins.
Just a thought, but you might note that intelligence has a normal distribution, not a geographic one.
Have you noticed that those “educated” urbanites move to rural areas when they can?
Yes, but they don’t stay very long when they do that. They tend to cluster in suburban cities where they can take quiet middle class neighborhoods apart at the seams and install McMansions in them, at the same time making sure that they are within walking distance of the commuter rail systems.
They do this because they are trying to escape the crime-ridden streets of cities like Chicago and New York, and maybe grow their own gardens until they discover that gardens have to be weeded, watered and fed, just like critters.
That’s okay – their snotty squats generate tax revenues that benefit the rest of us, for things like road repairs and libraries, and we also benefit by getting those uppity choices in grocery goods that they think are so special.
Yes, I am sitting here giggling over their dismay when I can find better imported cheeses, for instance, at Aldi for a lower price than they pay for the same thing at Whole Foods.
Makes me giggle.
I don’t understand people who claim that Hillary Clinton supporters were better educated than Donald Trump supporters. What difference does it make? There is no intelligence test given to the population before they cast their vote. Otherwise, that would be considered “racist”, like expecting African Americans to attain the same algebra skills as their Caucasian and Asian classmates. If you want to question the intelligence of the voting public, take a look at any large urban city that consistently votes in the Democrats, yet their lives have not improved for the last fifty years.
“What difference does it make?”
None, its a demographic observation. Even the dumbest, most uneducated citizen has an equal right to vote and be counted as the smartest, most educated citizen. As it should be.
For the last election, however, it marked the largest shift of widely measured demographics when previous race and gender has proved more decisive, this time it was education.
Hah! He seriously brought up “class rebellion”? I wonder if it has ever occurred to Fareed that this election was exactly what his Communist-filled Left has often claimed to be seeking: The downtrodden proletariat masses rose up against the elitist bourgeoisie. Probably not. I doubt it ever crossed his mind that “educated professionals who live in cities, who have cosmopolitan views” is the very definition of the enemy in that much longed-for fantasy of the Left. He should be thankful it wasn’t the usual style of revolution as directed by his fellows.
Yeah, it does seem to indicate that he has a problem recognizing both hypocrisy and irony – doesn’t it?
Probably thinks “irony” is what he pays his dry-cleaner for…
This guy probably wonders why he has to pay the dry cleaner. The Dry cleaner should enjoy the privilege of cleaning his suits and do it for free.
I long for the day when some snot-nosed poodle puffer like Fareed or Madcow is told ‘we don’t serve your kind in here’, like that bar scene in ‘Star Wars’, ‘your kind’ being elitist snobs.
To be able to tell them to go down the street, turn left, and go to the Red Star bistro instead, which is much more expensive, would make my day.
Ex, this is the bar in my town..https://www.facebook.com/pages/South-Forty-Saloon/166258200100111
They just might do as you suggest above..
Sorry I didn’t put the link in correctly, a bit post challenged here i guess
This kind of shit just pisses me off.
Some of the SMARTEST people I have ever served, worked or hung around with have NEVER seen the inside of a college classroom. Intelligence is NOT based on whether you went to college.
I am fortunate in that the scope of people I know ranges from migrant workers in the Columbia River basin to PhD types that work at the National Laboratory up the street. There is a common characteristic that most of my friends have; THEY WORK HARD at what they do, whether its picking apples or smashing atoms.
They discuss a broad range of topics and don’t always agree with each other. But never have I seen or heard of one of them talking down to the other based on education or social status.
While I actually do know some folks who believe they are entitled to the good life simply by being alive; the wheel turns, and it will turn not in a good way on Mr. Fareed and those who think they are entitled to run things due to their position in society. If they were so smart, wouldn’t you have thought they would have come up with a candidate that had a clue about the full spectrum of life in the US?
Mr. Fareed needs to trot his ass down a recruiting station raise his right hand and repeat the oath. Then spout his crap (if he still feels the same way). I still wont agree with him.
Dinotanker, your response shows you to be from the western U. S. (Columbia River Basin.) I’ve noticed that educated people in the west (not including California) are far less “class conscious” than those in the east. So it makes sense to me that you have friends who do a variety of work, without talking down to those who emerge from a different social status or educational level.
Eastern U. S. is _much_ more stratified than the west, and that is the culture from which Zakaria emerges.(He is also a known plagiarist, BTW.)
In Silicon Valley, “status” is based not on education, but on dollar value of occupation (as one can earn good money in tech without being highly educated.) Regardless, the dominant political culture of Silicon Valley tracks with the elitism Zakaria articulates.
That was why the Mayor of San Jose, last year, could freely give his “stand down” order to SJ Police regarding violence visited upon Trump supporters leaving the rally in June 2016. We were just trash-types and unworthy of receiving the full protection we as citizens, deserved. Some of our supporters suffered physical injury due to leftist violence and are pursing a legal case. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/03/16/trump-san-jose-violent-protest-lawsuit-proceed/
Hopefully it isn’t a San Francisco judge that tries this case or you’re fucked.
Fareed Zakaria was born and raised in a Muslim household in Mumbai. At the risk of sounding bigoted, I used to run into his type somewhat regularly in Silicon Valley, and found them to be as annoying then as Zakaria is now. It seems to be a cultural artifact that India generates a certain kind of personality type who feels compelled to constantly remind you of his cleverness. Whether such cleverness is true or not.
It also doesn’t help that Zakaria lives in New York City, and is surrounded by the kind of parochial hustlers who fear and despise anything beyond the Hudson River. They might claim to want open borders and a one-world government, but what they really want is for New York to be the world capital with their own elitist caste in charge.
My own view is that a characteristic of very smart people tends to be that they spend more time listening and observing than trying to demonstrate how smart they are. Another is a tendency to not be caught up in their own vanity. Once they’ve reached a certain knowledge level, they become aware that the more a person knows, the more evident it becomes how little one actually does know.
Anyone who spends a lot of time telling you how clever they are is selling a personal brand.
Short version: Fareed-the-Guru can take his ignorant smug hubris, season it with curry and saffron, and insert it firmly in his cosmopolitan rectal cavity.
This is another reason why NY City and Upstate NY are two wholly different states. Not just because of cost of living, but also the significant difference in attitude, personality, and elitism/status in the City.
And I doubt he eats anything with curry because it isn’t quite sufficiently a “delicacy” and he only eats delicacy level sustenance.
Gosh, YES! and you are so right, Perry Gaskill! 100% agreement from me, particularly where Fareed can “shove it!”
I have encountered two types of people from NYC. Noo Yawkahs, like my Grandma (God rest her), her brother and sisters, and one of my uncles, often tend to be downright wonderful, salt-of-the-earth types who will happily give the shirt off their back to help someone out. The other kind are fucking assholes who think they know everything and look down on anyone who doesn’t fit in to their little elitist circle.
A slightly interesting side note: my Grandma moved to California from Queens NYC in 1945, settled in San Diego in ’46, and stayed here for the rest of her life. She picked up a SoCal accent, and most people never guessed she wasn’t a native. Her brother, Great-Uncle Ollie (God rest him, one of the greatest men I’ve ever known) also moved out here, but kept his Noo Yawk speech throughout his life. Her sisters stayed back east, but they often came here to visit. Whenever she spoke to her siblings, Grandma reverted to Noo Yawk. I was about six or seven when I first noticed that Grandma was talking weird. I asked her for something while she was chatting with her sisters, and she transitioned from Noo Yawk to SoCal midsentence to answer my question, then flipped right back to continue her conversation. I didn’t know what to make of it at the time.
Having been to New York City a couple of times, I don’t remember having a particular problem being there. It’s also somewhat doubtful if people like Fareed Zakaria speak for the majority of New Yorkers in general.
Zakaria apparently considers himself one of the smartest guys in the room, but fails to grasp that the simple reason some of us want to punch his stupid face is not because we can’t live in New York, but because we choose not to. In his view, we’re all just poor white trash who can barely make payments on our double-wides. The fact he gets a free pass on being called out as a bigot is because that news media door only swings one way.
I would rather live in a canyon of stone than one of concrete, and know the difference after having lived in both. I would rather watch horses playing around with a water sprinkler, something that happened today, than spend time stepping over a homeless drunk on a sidewalk. To encounter an adult male who does not know how to drive a car, apparently relatively common in NYC, is to me something bordering on the bizarre. I also refuse to apologize because my lifestyle choice doesn’t happen to agree with the pretentious cosmopolitan ideal defined by people like Zakaria.
Just in case you’re not pissed off enough about Zakaria’s condescending world-view, here’s a link to a poorly-reasoned amplification of what he said in the links Hondo posted.
(Ssshhhhh! Don’t write or mention the “S” word or well all have to endure an endless, pointless and inaccurate and incoherent response on how it isn’t a political or economic ideology)!
Uneducated? Farmers? Anyone who thinks farmers are uneducated because they run tractors instead of accounting software – well, they run that, too, to follow the markets – is a damned, imbecilic, uninformed, ignorant, prejudiced asshole.
And that includes that moronic, conceited ignnoramus fareed zakis – Kiss my American ass.
I would truly love to see what happens to people like fareed if/when they can’t get rustic breads or whipped soy lattes or whatever shit they consume because the farmers are holding grains for better prices at the grain elevators.
There’s lots of schools running doctorate programs in agronomy and related fields. Hell, my uncle is an ag engineer in Idaho. That’s his second degree. His first was in aerospace engineering, from when he used to work on projects he still can’t talk about at Edwards, related to things that fly in and out of the atmosphere.
See! I KNEW that was all aliens! I knew it!!! I was right all along!
It’s those nanosatellite doojobbies cluttering up the space lanes.
I was R-I-G-H-T!!!
The truth hurts.
I must admit that I am in rebellion against those cosmopolitan, educated, credentialed professionals who live in cities. The “Best and the Brightest” as they were once called,those Harvard twits who got us into that clusterfumble in SE Asia. To be fair, I also don’t like their Yale counterparts who got us into the SW Asian quagmire. Or any of the other educated cosmopolitans who constructed all those policies and programs they all now call broken.