Gun control in Nova Scotia
I think I wrote about this recently, but it probably needs to be said again;
Kyle Earl Munroe was arrested early last month when three men broke into the home where he was staying in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Munroe and his mate were able to take a firearm from the thieves and shot at them with the thieves’ own gun.
Police later located one of the suspects, who had non-life-threatening gunshot wounds.
Now Munroe is charged with attempted murder, intent to discharge a firearm, intent to discharge a firearm when being reckless, careless use of a firearm, improper storage of a firearm, pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a firearm knowing that possession is unauthorized.
“Right now they’re just pending charges,” said spokeswoman Chris Hansen at the Public Prosecution Service.
Munroe is banned from any contact with two named individuals, must attend court as ordered, keep the peace and be of good behaviour, not leave his residence except for essential activities such as work or medical appointments, remain in Nova Scotia, not consume drugs or alcohol, not possess a cellphone or pager, have no weapons, and answer the door to police when they check at his home.
Yeah, gun control is mostly about the control part.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
Yes, libbies, let’s be more like Canada!
Dipshits.
Not being able to legally shoot people running away from you is not a “liberal” thing. Most conservative states also prohibit it. With the notable exception of Texas. But even in Texas these guys might have been charged. Since Texas allows you to use lethal force to protect your property but these guys were not running away with any stolen property. And the property these two were protecting was their drugs.
I’m thinking the term “fled” can be defined in multiple ways.
Were they outside the house when they were shot? Were they still inside the house when they were shot.
Pretty sure when you break into someone’s house with a firearm, you’re not there collecting for the Salvation Army or selling copies of the Watch Tower.
And yeah Texas lets you use lethal force to protect your property. The lesson? Don’t fuck with stuff that isn’t yours and you might have a longer life.
Lars,
Where did you get the idea that the people in the house had drugs?
Not ruling it out but all I saw in the story was the man who shot the punk who broke into his house was ordered not to use drugs or alcohol as a condition of his release until trail.
While there could be a case for him using excessive force on someone who was no longer a threat all the other bullshit charges, such as “possessing an unauthorized firearm” etc are complete liberal moon bat bullshit.
Those freaking canucks are CRAZY! That list of charges is so freaking pathetic and ridiculous I can’t believe it! storage of a firearm? guess he stored it with the thief!Careless use of a firearm…maybe he should have let the a.h. use it on him? Possession of a firearm for a dangerous purpose? Unauthorized possession of a firearm? this bullshyt is beyond belief!!
They left out Jay Walking and leering at old ladies.
And kicking puppies.
Of course, the guys who broke into the house got binkies and hot chocolate for having their feewings hurt.
Don’t forget being kind to strangers and letting them have whatever they want apparently.
Sounds like Sharia. They should just stone him for being the victim and be done with it.
That jerk off chris needs a check up from her neck up. What a complete asshole.
I’d be very happy to smuggle him out of his country. Fuck Canadian gun control, and fuck anyone who thinks it’s a great way to fight crime.
I’d be curious if the three, who broke into the home with the gun, have as many charges filed against them. Probably not.
And this, boys and girls, is an excellent example of why we should practice the Four Esses:
Suppress
Shoot
Shovel
Silence
Crime? No crime here? Noises? Gunshots? Don’t even know what a gunshot sounds like. This is Canadia. We don’t have any guns. You want to come in? Nope, not without a warrant. Just practicing what few of my basic Constitutional rights I have left. You can wait outside.
What the po-po don’t know won’t hurt you.
The canucks don’t have constitutional rights. They live in a socialist regime, and get only the rights the royalty allows them to have, subject to being stripped from them at the whim of that same royalty, the elite ruling class. Very third world.
And they park as close as possible to the car next them when in the US so that you cannot get into your car until they leave.
Yeah, I live in a border town.
Usually at the local hospital/clinic.
Walmart
They would come out to find two flat tires too. Assmaggots.
Amen brother! They come down as far as where I live and you can spot them a mile away. In the parking lots, their car is ALL F’ed up in the space. They do not understand free right turn on red. They do not understand the the light DOES NOT get any greener, so they lag back and I end up with the yellow light. Changing lanes is just something they do, regardless of who’s there. Turn signals? They’ve never heard of them and I think the first time they tried them, it scared them and promised never to move that device again. Bastards!
I think it has something to do with the space widths being metric in Canada.
No kidding, they might be nice in person, but Canadians drive like supreme assholes here in the US. Supreme. Assholes.
This is how Panem started in ‘Hunger Games’.
Anoid any contact with Canada, including beer.
That stuff might rub off on you. Eeeewwww!
Yikes. That sounds like a lot more than Gun Control. Essential Activities did not list prepare a proper defense.
He’d have grounds to sneak into the US and request asylum based on Canada’s persecution of is inalienable rights!
Just like the Democrats want to do here – take away even one’s right to defend oneself and one’s family from attack.
A sad state our northern neighbor has gotten to. With Mexico and Canada, the neighborhood is going to the dogs.
Yeah, let’s be more like a system that punishes a man who defended himself and his from a violent attack more harshly than the attackers. Jeezus…
Sounds like a worthy recipient of asylum, maybe we can launch an extraction mission?
The more they tighten their grip, the more people will slip through their hands.
Hey Canada, your Great Britain is showing.
And it ain’t pretty.
Well said.
Vaguely remember a similar case in the UK while stationed there. In that instance, the thief had already broken into the guy’s house multiple times. The last time, the homeowner went after the little bastard. And just like the case in Canada, the homeowner was charged. Of course, all these “gun laws” only apply to the hoi poi. The “elites/rich” are exempt from this shit. Glad I got to live in the UK and Canada before they went full on stupid. Liberalism, what can’t it fuck up!!!
I’ll take “absolutely nothing” Alex, for $1000
Tony Martin (no relation to the cyclist) who in 1999 shot a burglar who had already had 29 arrests and was out on bail. (In the English equivalent to ‘no mijo’ the vic’s mother said it was not fair, as Martin had so much more money than the dead kid did so in her books, apparently the theft was OK.) Martin got 8 years. Part of Tony’s problem was that he had been in trouble before and was using a shotgun which required a special permit which he did not have.
I remember that case in the UK. The elderly man was not only charged, he was convicted and sentenced to eight years in prison, IIRC. In addition to the gun crime, they charged him with attempted murder.
What a crock. How DARE this bloke disarm a thug. What possible harm could an armed intruder intend?
Seriously?
(Yeah – sarc alert)
Out of curiosity, I checked on Roy Larner, now designated the Lion of London Bridge who, as you may recall, went to the defense of patrons of a restaurant he and an older friend were visiting when three muzzie thugs broke through the door. http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=72598
I wondered if ol’ Roy had been charged with a crime for defending people against those attackers, and he has not. It appears that self-defense is no longer considered a crime in the UK the way it once was.
Strange how angry, uncivilized foreigners and terrorist attacks can change your attitude overnight, isn’t it?
Larner didn’t use one of those “hated, terrible and obscene machines” called firearms, Ex-PH2.
Martin did.
In the UK, it’s apparently OK to “slice and dice” or beat someone to death with your bare hands. But God forbid someone use a “hateful gun” to defend themselves. That’s “simply not proper.”
That’s true up to a point, Hondo, but there have been many incidents dating back to the 1990s in which people whose homes were invaded, and who defended themselves with whatever they had at hand including kitchen knives, were arrested and tried for doing just that, and injuring the invader.
If it sounds unbelievable, it was not. The Brits are real hinky about personal weapons, yes, but with the invasion of so-called ‘migrants’ and their aggressive behavior towards native citizens, things seem to have changed considerably.
“several shots were fired as the suspects fled.”
Seems like a relevant part of the fact pattern.
It is also against the law in most of the US to shoot someone who is fleeing, although you might fare well with a jury.
But in Texas, if you shoot a perpetrator with their own gun, the whole court system laughs with you at the perpetrator.
As long as they’re shot in the front you’d never face a court system.
This reminds me more of the Joe Horn story:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy
I’d give a 50/50 shot with the DA to press charges, at a minimum take it to a grand jury, but I’d see a conviction here very unlikely.
Nova Scotia is a long way away though, no idea how this will play there.
The guy who defended himself will probably do time. Eastern Canada likes privately owned guns just as much – or perhaps even less – than the UK. And their laws reflect that.
A defendant who represents himself, has a fool for a client.
In court. However, elsewhere an individual who defends themselves often doesn’t end up as the guest of honor at a funeral.
Judged by 12 vs Carried by 6
I’ll take “Judged by 12” for one thousand, Alex.
Bingo, amigo. (smile)
Sounds about right for a country that makes millionaires out of terrorists that kill Americans.
This sounds like something you’d read on Duffelblog. I can’t fathom that this is even being considered for longer than a day at most. Seriously.
OK, this sounded wrong on so many levels that I called the Chronicle Herald News office and asked them – “Can this be true?” Turns out the specifics of the story posted, while accurate, aren’t all that happened. Appears to have been a case of bad guys going after drugs in the house. There was apparently lots of drugs – and guns. All owned by the guys in the house (there were three, not two). The writer I spoke with said it will all come out in court but they couldn’t say anything in the article. Nobody in the story was clean on this. I was really glad to hear this since I wanted to visit Nova Scotia and was about to scratch it off my list.
Drugs seem to be present in a lot of these cases…
You make it sound like the newspaper is spinning this story the way they can expect the biggest ratings bump possible. That can’t be true…..
Is there a link to a news article that spells out all this about it basically being a tiff between criminals?
I wondered why, outside the original local news, this was being circulated almost entirely on right wing and libertarian sites.
It appears this is being spun for anti-liberal propaganda purposes.
1. It was not his home. It was his friends. The homeowner who was present was not the one to fired the shots.
2. He shot the assailants WHILE THEY WERE running away.
3. The two “victims” are also criminals and were defending their drugs.
In the US if you shoot someone running away you can also be charged. And you could even in the 18th and 19th centuries. So this is not some “liberal” thing.
In the US cops will often charge you with whatever they can if they know you to be a criminal.
“It appears this is being spun for anti-liberal propaganda purposes”
Do you have a link to source those assertions? Just wondering since to OP links a Canadian Paper in the narrative.
It is my assertion that is is being spun for propaganda purposes. When I Google the name of the man arrested and charged the Google results, aside from the original Canadian source, were all right wing and libertarian blogs and sites.
That is a pretty clear indicator that it is being exploited to support a political propaganda narrative.
just wondering
A plausible alternative explanation is that it’s being ignored by the US mainstream media because (1) it’s not about the US, and (2) doesn’t fit the mainstream media’s demonstrated anti-gun bias. But that cannot possibly be the case, because the media would never “bury” a story that didn’t fit their editorial bias – right?
Damn, you really drank a lot of the Kool-Aid. Think for yourself much?
One drug freak offs three others and Poodledick the Piuperdink has his shorts in a wad over some kind of imaginary anti-liberal spin?
Why is this not surprising at all?
Such consistency! So predictable!
My response that it is an anti0liberal spin is that this story is being spread across right wing blogs and the comment sections are full of anti-liberal comments.
Look above. They are here too.
YAWN!!!
Try a different whine. That vintage is stale, flat and boring, more like piss and vinegar than anything else.
We got the narrative straight- even though half the story wasn’t there. Pound sand dickweed. All you seem to do is compromise the facts. Exactly what you accuse everyone here of doing.
What facts did I compromise. And with the narrative straight this is a non-issue. Both sides would agree this arrest was legit.
Another interesting tidbit:
A human, faced with an armed opponent in the process of drawing and firing, is capable of turning away in the time it takes to draw and break a shot, or even between a shot and an immediate follow up shot.
This explains a number of “shot in the back” or “shot fleeing”, or “shot again in the back” accusations.
I have personally observed this Sort of thing in Simmunitions training (think paintball, but tiny painful ones from real-looking guns).
Other professionals have shared their own stories with me on this.
I no longer accept accusations of “running away” or “in the back” without major supporting evidence, when the crook starts the encounter.
Novices struggle to draw and fire under two seconds. The attacker can do a whole lot of “ohshit!” in two seconds.
Now you gone and done it, 11B. Not only did you hit Commissar with facts and common sense, you had the audacity to put forth personal experience!
Well, y’see, the real problem is that Commissar Commissar doesn’t have any decisions in what people who post comments here are allowed to say or not say. That’s up to the Ultimate Authority, The Blog Owner.
Therefore, the complaints of COMMISSAR Commissar, widely known for his leftie views, can’t control the conversation any more than he can control his own bowels.
Ain’t that a shame!
I noticed the same follow-up shot in the simulated perp’s back in the popo laser simulator training I did early this year with our local police. Reaction times and human factors being what they are, the perp is very likely to turn 180 to get away when his victim produces a firearm. We were also taught to keep shooting until the threat is eliminated; something the liberals will find mean and not necessary.
The jackasses also don’t understand that “shoot to wound” is silly and that every perp is armed until searched and found to not be armed.
Of course, those people have also never had a gun pointed at them.
“never had a gun pointed at them”
Ever been shot at?
Well, no.
Then shut the fuck up.
Works every time.
“Simmunitions”
Good times
This is precisely why many jurisdictions allow their LEOs to ready weapons whever an attacker armed with a knife approaches within a set distance.
If you have a weapon holstered, an attacker 15 or even 20 feet away with a knife can typically rush and stab you before you can get off an effective shot. Don’t believe me? Simulate it yourself without using any weapons – and remember that it takes a bit longer to draw and aim a pistol from a holster than to raise your hand from the vicinity of your pants pocket.
10MPH is 15 feet per second. A human can easily achieve that much distance within 2 seconds from a standing start, and can sprint (for short distances) far faster than 10 MPH.
Healthy young adult male should easy hit 15mph
Olympic sprinters are about 23 mph.
When I first heard this story I was outraged.
We don’t have the entire story, but if they were running away at full speed, that would be a bad shoot
Here in Florida where we have both “stand your ground” and ” castle doctrine”
Even here you cannot shoot at a fleeing criminal
That would result in charges.