No, the Left and Right are NOT morally equivalent
One thing you can be assured of here at TAH is that when Jonn or I or any other author posts a piece critical of liberals and their Democrat party, especially when it deals with a particularly despicable action on their part, there will quickly follow a comment by one or more of our resident liberal trolling apologists saying in effect, “Yes, well, while that may be despicable, you have to admit that both sides do it.” That moral equivalence counter-punch is a favored weapon of the Left, like calling you a racist, a jab designed to shut your mouth and close off further discussion which they know they can’t win fairly. With most of us it fails because it lacks the weight of truth behind it, although sadly there are a few here who will meekly agree with Lars or Joe that “Yes, you’re right—both sides do it.”
Well, if that’s true, it is true only in the broadest, most general sense and ignores two critical factors: frequency and intensity. Sure, there’s always going to be some hothead conservatives out there who get fed up and throw some punches, but unlike the Left’s viciousness, ours tends to be spontaneous and disorganized. When some more daring challenger here at TAH does bring those two realities up to counter our resident trolls, the immediate response is, “Show me some proof, show me some Google links,” which as we all know is a daunting, time consuming task that no one really wants to take the time to do just to prove some liberal twit like Lars is wrong.
Well the folks over at Daily Caller, obviously fed up with getting the same crap from liberal provocateurs, have begun the compilation of such a list. A quick read shows that it is far from complete so I am going to ask Jonn to post it as part of this piece so that TAH readers can in their comments make additions and help to flesh it out. I will then recompose the list in chronological style and when complete ask Jonn to repost it in full. Future events can then be added to the comments section of that second posting. Periodically I will update the list to include those new events taken from comments. From the point of first posting forward, anytime one of our liberal trolls throws out that lame moral equivalence argument, we will have evidence to point to and say, “Put up or shut up. Show us a list of equal conservative misbehaviors and criminality.
Herewith the list from Daily Caller with some minor modification:
July 2016: A Hillary Clinton supporter lights a flag on fire and attacks a Trump supporter in Pittsburgh.
Protesters jumped on cars, stole hats, fought with and threw eggs at Trump supporters outside a Trump rally in downtown San Jose. Trump supporters sued San Jose over the violence.
August 2016: Anti-Trump protesters attacked pushed, spit on and verbally harassed attendees forced to walk a “gauntlet” as they left a Trump fundraiser in Minneapolis, Minn., and beat an elderly man. Protesters also attacked Trump’s motorcade.
A Tennessee man was assaulted at a garage sale for being a Trump supporter.
A Trump supporter in New Jersey was attacked with a crowbar on the street.
September 2016: Protesters in El Cajon, Calif., chased and beat up a Trump supporter.
October 2016: A GOP office in North Carolina was firebombed and spray painted with “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else.”
November 2016: A high school student was attacked after she wrote that she supported Trump on social media. The perpetrator ripped her glasses off and punched her in the face.
The president of Cornell University’s College Republicans was assaulted the night after Trump won the election.
Students protesting Trump punched and kicked a Maryland high school student wearing a Make America Great Again hat.
A high school student was arrested in Florida after he punched a classmate for carrying a Trump sign at school.
A group of black men in Chicago attacked a white man while raging against Trump.
Maryland high school students punched a student who was demonstrating in support of Trump, and then kicked him repeatedly while he was on the ground.
“You support Trump. You hate Mexicans,” a California high school student yelled at a Trump supporter, before viciously beating the girl.
An anti-bullying ambassador was arrested for shoving a 74-year-old man to the ground in a fight outside Trump tower where people upset over his win had gathered. The woman tied to Black Lives Matter caused the man to hit his head on the sidewalk.
A Texas elementary school student was beaten by his classmates for voting for Trump in a mock election.
Two men punched and kicked a Connecticut man who was standing with an American flag and a Trump sign.
December 2016: A Trump supporter was beaten and dragged by a car.
January 2017: A Trump supporter was knocked unconscious after airport protesters repeatedly beat him on the head.
A Trump supporter was attacked after putting out a fire started by anti-Trump protesters.
When Trump protesters encountered a driver with a pro-Trump flag on his car, they surrounded the vehicle, ripped off and began burning the flag, and pounded the car. They also punctured on the tires.
February 2017: California GOP Rep. Tom McClintock had to be escorted to his car after a town hall because of angry protesters. The tires of at least four vehicles were slashed.
Protestors knocked a 71-year-old female staffer for California GOP Rep. Dana Rohrabacher unconscious during a protest outside the representative’s office.
Milo Yiannopoulos’ speech at the University of California-Berkeley was cancelled after rioters set the campus on fire and threw rocks through windows. Milo tweeted that one of his supporters wearing a Trump hat was thrown to the ground and kicked.
March 2017: Masked protesters at Middlebury College rushed AEI scholar and political scientist Charles Murray and professor Allison Stranger, pushing and shoving Murray and grabbing Stranger by her hair and twisting her neck as they were leaving a campus building. A stranger suffered a concussion. Protesters then surrounded the car they got into, rocking it back and forth and jumping on the hood.
April 2017: -A parade in Portland, OR, was canceled after threats of violence were made against a Republican organization.
Fears of violent protests shut down Ann Coulter’s UC Berkeley speech. Campus police had gathered intel on protesters who were planning to commit violence.
May 2017: Republican Rep. Tom Garrett, his family and his dog were targeted by a series of repeated death threats deemed credible by authorities.
FBI agents arrested a person for threatening to shoot Republican Rep. Martha McSally over her support for Trump.
Police in Tennessee charged a woman for allegedly trying to run Republican Rep. David Kustoff off the road.
Police in North Dakota ejected a man after he became physical with Republican Rep. Kevin Cramer at a town hall.
A former professor was arrested after police said they identified him on video beating Trump supporters with a U-shaped bike lock, leaving three people with “significant injuries.”
June 2017:
James Hodgkinson opened fire with a 7.62 mm rifle on a congressional GOP baseball practice, injuring five, including House Majority Whip Steve Scalise.
Republican Rep. Claudia Tenney received an email threat that read, “One down, 216 to go,” shortly after the shooting at the Republican congressional baseball practice.
A man driving a white Malibu reportedly fired several shots at a man driving a truck displaying a “Make America Great Again” flag in Indiana.
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It’s amazing how fast supposedly “supporters of non-violence” get violent – when they lose. Sounds like lousy sportsmanship to me.
As to myself and my fellow MAGA supporters:
Range Time!
AMEN to that, stay locked and loaded as well.
The more violent they are, and the more it is publicized, the more likely those who are mugwumps will drift to the conservative side of the political fence.
We must be vigilant, but first: do no harm.
May I amend that, Ex-PH2?
First, do no harm.
If all else fails, kick their butts into next week.
I want to be clear.
First, do no harm means let them strike first.
Personally, if required, I’d be on a balcony with buckshot or rock salt – something that would sting badly.
But isn’t ‘tolerance’ and ‘nonviolence’ subjective?
I don’t understand why people don’t understand that AntiFa and the Commie/Anarcho youths are just using tools at their disposal, namely ‘forceful opinioning’. If it wasn’t for being such a disenfranchised minority without any power base they wouldn’t have to act like this. They are the enlightened ones, fighting the righteous fight.
But if the Right takes up such tactics, techniques and procedures they will be wrong as “some Animals are more equal than others.”
/sarc off.
Look, violence and the threat of violence is the last step, a childish lack of the right words and humility. I vow to break the will of these anti-Constitution by practicing the highest form of detached indifference. You lefty screwballs should take an honest look in the mirror, pick up a book (that’s not red), and learn what hard work self-determination is. Bitches.
As my father taught me – the guy who throws the first punch has run out of rational arguments.
Exactly.
Image how much time and effort these kids waste hating so hard.
Of course I could accuse me of the same, I’m fighting against an infestation of Asian Bittersweet. Would Molotov cocktails be overkill?
Asian Bittersweet, didn’t she work at The Top Hat Club, outside of CP Humphreys?
HA!
Naw, like the plant. GB got it… Round up is the key!
Then cut and pull, a lot. Really it’s awful stuff.
Sounds like kudzu – but I think they’ve not yet made enough RoundUp to kill half of the kudzu in the South.
Kudzu is the plant kingdom equivalent of cockroaches. They both keep coming back and back and back…
Like a bad case of Herpes OR the Clintons!
I had to look that vine up since we don’t have it in Texas.
Looks like the Molotov cocktails may not be overkill – but you’d probably disturb the neighbors less if you used RoundUp. 55gal tank on the back of a ATV with power sprayer.
“violence and the threat of violence is the last step” – if it’s the last step, then why is it always their starting point?
The last step of the civilized? I have to think without the will of the people this will just be another flash in the pan.
At least I hope it is…
or as 11B-Mailclerk said, “It is more properly said “Violence is the -first- refuge of the incompetent.”
I’m stealing it.
My secret was Muriatic Acid. Round up is to expensive. 5 gallons will burn it down to the root for very short money.
My Dad taught me that one. Also he would say, “Don’t start a fight – but always finish one”.
It is going to 120 degrees here today, still waiting for Lars to tell me why I did not freeze to death in the 70’s.
I’m still waiting for Lars to clarify his “fought two forest fires” claim.
What is there to clarify? Forest fires from pyrotechnics and smoke during training start all the time. I helped put out two of them. A lot of troops have had to do this. Usually they are left to burn out but sometimes they start to threaten facilities.
*YAWN*
I’m interested to know exactly what you did, and under what conditions.
Were you actually on the line?
If so, were you involved in fire suppression or mop-up?
Was there active fire?
Flame lengths?
Weather conditions?
Fuel type and loading?
Topography?
These are the questions I originally asked, that you failed to answer. That’s what there is to clarify.
He stood there and watched, TOW. Remember, he was an ossifer, not an enlisted puke. Never got his hands dusty.
I was enlisted at the time of these fires.
And officers do not just stand around all the time. You might not remember because your service was so long ago and so brief.
I did not see you originally ask these questions. And I do not know why you think you are entitled to so many answers. I do not know a damn thing about you. Did you ever even serve?
I am not a professional firefighter or even formally trained in firefighting. We fought them as soldiers who were told to stop them. So don’t be an asshole and try to accuse me of false information if I use the wrong firefighting terminology. I am answering your questions as a layman.
Yes, “on the line”.
Yes active, what is an “inactive fire”?
Flame lengths; waist to face high. So two meters?
Weather was dry. One was early summer the other early fall.
I do not know “fuel type and loading”. Hell I do not even remember most of the types of trees. I do remember pine needles on the ground in both cases. Trees were on fire and some were pretty tall but I do not remember an entire tree engulfed. I guess that would mean the fires were higher than face high on some of the trees. But we could not put out the trees. In both cases we put out the brush to the extent we could and then cleared a break to stop or slow it. In both cases the fire burned out at the break.
I do not remember the topography of the larger areas directly surrounding the fires In both cases the fire was uphill from us.
There, answered. But if demand another damn answer about my past I am going to justly tell you to fuck off. I do not see you self righteously demanding answers from anyone else that mentions experiences they had in the military.
And I am pretty damn certain you never served.
Wow, someone woke up with a severe case of red ass this morning….
Butthurt much? I’ve been pretty up-front about my history, Lars, so I don’t see what you think you’re getting at. My question has been asked repeatedly no answer from you, so don’t get pissy because you weren’t paying attention. So you were on the line. Okay, now we’re getting somewhere. Were you pulling hose or cutting line with hand tools? Was that line direct (right up on the edge of the fire) or indirect (some distance back from it). This is not a loaded question, both methods are potentially valid, depending on conditions and available resources. What you describe sounds like indirect hand line (i.e. cut with hand tools, no water). Active fire is burning *actively* with open flames all along the line. Inactive fire is mostly smoldering with little to no open flames. Two meters? Seriously? No wonder nobody believes you when you deny being a commie! I don’t speak Canadian, but over six feet is a pretty tall fence. In all seriousness, though, this has to do with what you could and couldn’t have done effectively. Fuel type and loading are pretty self-explanatory for most people, but I can Barney-style for you if necessary. Type is what kind of vegetation (or manmade material) is there to burn. Are there trees? Are they pines, oaks, etc. Specific species doesn’t matter so much. Are there downed logs? Is there brush? How tall? Is there grass? Is there tree litter/duff? Is there both? How much of all that stuff is green and how much is dead (before it burns)? Loading is the overall density of that fuel. In basic terms, can you see through it? Can you walk through it? Is there a gap between the lower tree branches and the understory below? “Weather was hot.” No shit. How about the wind? Not asking for NOAA data, just if it was windy, and can you tell me if, as you faced the fire, was it in your face, at your back, or crosswind? Was the air clear or were you sucking smoke? How about RH? Just whether it was dry or… Read more »
Aaaand…crickets.
You guys want some ice water or something while you wait?
No, PH, but I’ll take a sammich.
(Putters around house while waiting for sammich which he by now knows will never materialize. Oh, the sadness.)
Your sammich most likely will be a knuckle sammich
Do you want fries with that?
Sweet tea, please Ma’am.
I’d like a sammich and a Dr. Pepper, please! 😀
I think I posted a link to the Daily Caller list along with a couple of others yesterday. You may get a few more additions to the list from the other links.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=72866
Poe,
here is another link – not exactly a detailed list but…
http://ijr.com/opinion/2017/06/266063-yaf-number-conservative-events-disrupted-protestors-tripled-since-trumps-election/
“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent” and “If violence is never a solution, please explain Carthage” are two of science fiction’s best lessons.
Explain Carthage? Scipio was a better tactician than Hannibal and Hasdrubel.
And although barred from recruiting additional troops by the Senate, he openly accepted volunteers – thousands of them.
And Patton was off his game that day
It is more properly said “Violence is the -first- refuge of the incompetent.”
Using violence as a -last- resort is a mark of restraint, it is often rather prudent.
Just because the correct solution to thuggery is often rationally-directed violence, this does not make the one defending against thugs “incompetent”. That is a “Lefty” shibboleth intended to encourage opponents to simply stand for any abuse by thugs, especially “Lefty” thugs. it is -also- intended to give Lefties an “out” to feel morally superior when they get their butts kicked by folks saying “I -said- leave me alone. (THUMP!)”
Maybe i’m showing my age. But all of this reminds me of a musical made by Mad Magazine in 1966. One of the songs is as follows and says everything that has been said, in verse. It’s a sad world when history repeats itself because folks don’t learn from it.
See George Santayana.
I would take the list back even further, to the BLM and Occupy movements and their ilk. Massive liberal violence with narry a peep from conservatives.
I would go back further than that to 1957, when Orval Faubus, the Democratic governor of Arkansa, used the Arkansas National Guard to prevent black students from entering Central High School in Little Rock.
And then there was the 1964 incident in Mississippi, in which three civil rights workers who went to Mississippi to register blacks for voting were murdered by members of the Ku Klux Klan, a left-wing group started by the Democrats, the party of the KKK.
You mean Orval Eugene Faubus, named after Eugene Debs the Socialist? The dangerously left wing liberal?
Eisenhower suspected him of cooperating with the Communist Party to make the whole country look bad. That incident was used as propaganda until the fall of the USSR.
Yet another example of how the dems’ long and storied history as the party of Jim Crow apparently doesn’t count.
Well, yeah, real history does make it difficult for them to hide behind the pseudo-gloss of civil rights, doesn’t it?
Not when handing out government checks. Give people enough money and they will believe whatever you want them to believe.
The 1964 incident had my cousin Carol who was involved with that incident. They were called Freedom Riders and I was on the LPH 3 at the time. Since my cousin was a girl, they shot her in the foot and her dad who was a doctor and my uncle at the time had to go down there and bring her home. A few months ago, My sister mentioned the story to me during a conversation with a neighbor which I remembered except for cuz getting shot in the foot. I did not think anyone remembered the incident until I saw your comment. Uncle Jake also was at Normandy and was a that time.
Whenever I see news reports showing Antifa and/or Black Lives Matter groups, or similar ilk, having a “spontaneous” public demonstration, including rioting, I notice them all chanting slogans in unison, which to me, is a clear indication that they are organized and led by the Communist Party, U.S.A.
How else would those participants know what to chant unless they had previously been carefully taught and rehearsed?
Also, when the shootings took place at the Republican congressmen’s baseball practice, my first thought was that it was a Republican doing the shooting.
Why?
Because the Republican Party continues to ignore and/or betray their own constituents.
So, I was actually surprised to learn the shooter was not an angry, fed-up Republican voter.
But, it could still happen.
don’t overlook the pre-printed protest signs
And where the $$$ is coming from… Soros and his minions have their filthy hands all over this.
If you look into it, you find most of these professionally print shop crafted signs were commissioned by International ANSWER, which is a Marxist movement funded in part by Soros and Co.
I also notice these obviously organized and rehearsed “spontaneous” protest demonstrations and/or riots occurring immediately (within hours, or even minutes) after a black person (or other protected minority member) is shot by the police, which makes me wonder – – – were they sitting around HOPING one of their group would be shot by a police officer?
In other words, did they carefully plan and instigate an incident, deliberately sacrificing the life of a protected minority member, in order to create a sympathetic public spectacle?
They’re certainly not above doing so JRM
It is tough these day finding a violent right winger. At least they can be made up:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/12/bias_attacks_fake_ones_against_muslims_at_an_alltime_high.html
If you get caught your parents might shave your eyebrows so be careful on that.
If they can’t be made up, the media will try it’s best to close their eyes and pretend that left wingers are right wingers such as with Jeremy Christian.
There’s a shocking similarity between what this film discusses and what the political left is trying to do in this country. Ever notice how the left wants to group and segregate its minions? NO anti-Abortion folks, blacks stay with the BLM crowd, bawling for no-White people zones, ZERO tolerance for dissenting views…
Get the firehose and turn it on full blast.
It’s curious that a video recording would be posted that condemns the Nazi Party when, in so many areas of our lives, our United States of America has adopted the Nazi methods and ideology.
After all, who REALLY won the Second World War?
In a similar vein, as I look at how much of our individual liberty has been forfeited, I also wonder who REALLY won the Cold War?
Here is a link to an article I wrote and posted at my own personal web site, “OUR ETERNAL STRUGGLE”, in which I present some of my opinions about our current social and political situation:
http://writesong.blogspot.com/2012/01/triumph-of-will.html
Some more from Ace of Spades:
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/370308.php
Lets not forget how the blind hatred of Trump has caused the leftist mob to lose any literacy they had.
One man was attacked by illegal alien supporters because he was wearing a ” Triumph” motorcycle logo on his shirt and a young lady was attacked at the Berkeley fiasco for wearing a red hat that said ” Make Bit-Coin Great Again”
Most Conservatives are tolerant while liberals tend to be foaming-at-the-mouth minions looking for a reason to go apeshit.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/blast-shooting-shuts-down-main-train-station-brussels-belgium-n774776
Jehovah’s Witnesses at it again eh? They will never learn.
Them and Militant Mennonites.
Amish Anarchists as well.
Some of the antifa groups are now openly condoning and organizing violence, thefts and conversion. I’m surprised the FBI has done more with these groups. Maybe because they are nto being spoon fed by the SPLC?
Only click here if you are on your BP meds:
https://itsgoingdown.org/library/
“The Illegitimacy of Violence, The Violence of Legitimacy
From:
Legitimizing resistance, expanding what is acceptable, is not going to be popular at first—it never is, precisely because of the tautology set forth above. It takes consistent effort to shift the discourse: calmly facing outrage and recriminations, humbly emphasizing our own criteria for what is legitimate.”
Lengthy article there. In other words violence perfectly acceptable as means to end if you are an anarchist. The ends can always justify the means; doesn’t matter who you are.
“Whenever this kind of working class resistance breaks out, politicians try to extinguish it in a flood of petitions, lobbying and election campaigns. But when we are fighting for ourselves, our activity looks completely different from theirs. We take property away from landlords and use it for ourselves. We use militant tactics against our bosses and end up fighting with the police.”
In other words; We take what we want and FTP.
“Whatever You Do, Don’t Talk to the Police”
“We’re trying to destroy the world”
““Defending My Enemy’s Enemy,” one of El-Amine’s main targets, emphasized that leftists had a responsibility to critically support Hezbollah”
And there follows a long article about excusing all of Hezbollah’s terrorist actions, treatment of women and gays and everything they ever did because… Trump! Fascist!
“Dangerous Spaces
A collection of writings on women’s and queer violence, self-defense, and revenge.”
A bunch of violent fantasy revenge stories.
Of course they are utterly complicit with everyone’s favorite Southern victim hood advocate.
Plenty more at the link.
I don’t think that would turn out like they expect.
They may want to look at the history of similar groups in the 1960’s. Only now decent people are less patient.
Reading it is like a trip down memory lane to the 1960s and 70s. A lot of stuff posted there is actually lifted from the period literature.
35 years from now the survivors will be marching in a pride parades and making kissy face with President Chelsea Clinton. I’ll hopefully be dead by then.
Lemmings. They are trying to attract lemmings, build a huge population of them and waltz right into self-destruction.
I think we should make sure that they follow the path they are seeking. Anarchy is their only purpose, and as they say, destruction is their goal. This doesn’t make any sense to you or me, especially since they give no reason for it. Destruction for the sake of destruction itself? How hard would it be to get them to implode?
Winter is not very far off.
Bakuninism?
Not really. The Marxists hate Bakunin and the liberals don’t/can’t understand him. If they REALLY wanted true anarchy, they’d follow his principles to the letter, which they don’t do. Note that none of them will give up their comfort, e.g., warmth in the cold, food on demand, a place to congregate and postulate. But when the real S-H-I-T hits the fan, they will scatter like leaves in the autumn wind.
I think rock salt in the shotgun would be appropriate for the first round of ammo. After that, spray them with hard rubber balls about 2 inches in diameter, or use a fire hose if it’s wintertime. And some kind of foul-smelling gas that makes them choke and gag, but it basically harmless, something such as compressed pig farts.
Sorry Ex, I might go with the first round being rock salt, but after that, it’s alternating 00 buck and slugs…
First round: rock salt. Second round: #6 birdshot. If they still don’t get it, everything else is buck/slug.
I’d agree up to a point. If the crowd is small, then buckshot is appropriate. But if the crowd is large, spraying with 2″ hard rubber balls or firehoses covers a lot more territory and creates enormous discomfort in the recipients. Gives the women, kids and disabled time to get away.
There is also skunk musk. It is potent, powerful and difficult to get rid of unless you know the secret (vinegar).
I say just soak ’em with warm soapy water and watch them melt, they’re as allergic to that as they are to facts, logic, common sense, honest work and sobriety.
Ahh, sorry for my confusion… yeah, skunk scent, and they make grenades with those rubber balls too, though i can’t remember the name.. they also have ammo for paint ball guns, both CS, and a stink one that’s something like a cross between skunk, feces, and vomit… though depending on which group of new age hippies are involved, that might just smell like home to them…
More bullshit propaganda from Poe.
Selectivity bias. Ignores thousands of hate crimes which are overwhelmingly right wing attackers. And us political violence. Not to mention attacks on abortion clinics.
Right wing terrorists are the most active terrorist in the US right now according to the FBI.
Yeah, if there were “thousands of hate crimes which are overwhelmingly right wing attackers”, a reasonable person would think that you could name one.
Not that tired old “Tim McVeigh” canard either.
I certainly won’t argue the ‘overwhelmingly right wing’ aspect of this, as plenty of assholes exist on either side (sorry, Poe, that’s the truth!), but I’ll give a few examples. I’ve been busy today, else I’d list more, but how about we start with just a few from a longer list: There’s the guy who shot two police officers in Iowa last year, after clashing with them over the Confederate Flag a few weeks prior – you can argue he’s more of a ‘sovereign citizen’ crazy than a typical conservative, but if we’re lumping Antifa idiots with liberals, it’s pretty clear we’re using a wide-ranging liberal vs conservative breakdown: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/11/02/two-iowa-police-officers-killed-ambush-style-attack/93155024/ Here’s a guy who attacked a Muslim airline employee saying, “Fuck Islam, Fuck ISIS, Trump is here now. He will get rid of all of you.”: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Employee-Hijab-Delta-Sky-Lounge-Kicked-Harassed-Flyer-Shouts-Trump-is-Here-Now-411924555.html Here’s a guy attacking a Hispanic man while saying it’s ‘for Trump’: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/this-is-for-donald-trump-white-man-repeatedly-punches-hispanic-worker-in-the-back-of-the-head/ Here’s another Trump supporter who fire-bombed the mosque that Pulse shooter attended: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-man-faces-hate-crime-charge-mateen-mosque-arson-article-1.2792764 And for a pair of plots that were stopped, here’s a Trump supporter who was arrested for making threats and having home-made explosives: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/william-celli-arrested_us_56782b8fe4b0b958f6573d35 And of course you’ve got the Kansas ‘Crusaders’ who were thankfully stopped in their plot to detonate a car bomb at an apartment complex filled with Somali immigrants: http://ksnt.com/2017/02/01/suspect-in-alleged-plot-against-kansas-somalis-seeks-freedom/ The guy who killed would-be 2LT Richard Collins liked memes about Trump online and was a member of groups that fit on the conservative side of our two-sided fence: http://www.thedailybeast.com/accused-killer-of-black-soldier-liked-pro-trump-pro-white-memes Finally, then you get the utter nutjobs -who I’ll say are more insane than political, but I think that applies to some of the crazies on the Left too, so we may as well lump them with the examples from the Right here. This nutjob cannibal was apparently wearing a “Make American Great Again” hat when he murdered two people and ate some of their flesh: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748428/Cannibal-killer-Austin-Harrouff-19-wearing-Make-America-Great-Trump-hat-stormed-murdered-random-couple.html And last but not least, this guy claims the Uber app made him do it, but he shouted “Make America Great Again” as he shot six people: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kalamazoo-gunman-repeated-trump-slogan-shooting-article-1.2587675 I certainly don’t think this is any more of… Read more »
Sorry, LC. Your “sources” are less than credible. Rawstory? The New York Daily News? Really, the home of Talcum X? Puffington Hoes?
And the story that Dalton asked for a buck to “make America great again”? Bullshit, his story, unconfirmed by anyone.
I believe you can google any of those and find additional sources; I wasn’t aware you considered all those sources ‘fake’.
And Dalton, like the crazy-ass cannibal guy, was listed as an example of someone who is crazy… but still labeled political. Like some of the examples the right cites on the left. I think we need to move past this notion that everything is political. If I start hearing voices in my head telling me to donate to Clinton and shoot people wearing red hats, I’m not a liberal, I’m a nutjob.
If it gets a political label, LC, that comes from the media, NOT the police.
They are the first to categorize and label these things, not law enforcement. You ought to know that.
I’m not sure what’s meant by ‘the media’ any more – do you mean the primary TV stations? The blogs? What? I fully agree the media sucks, but I just don’t say it as a one-way sucking that you seem to.
Watching CNN, for example, is painful for me – they’ll bring up some topic, and then turn to their ‘panel of experts’, and I can tell you already what each and every one will say because it falls directly on party lines. Is TAH part of ‘the media’? If I go through the list of ‘liberals’ listed above, I guarantee you I can find some I can argue with – starting with the first, in fact.
Googling that guy -and I just did it quickly; I’m not sure it’s the same guy- shows a Josh Sturman who is a graduate student studying, and I quote, ‘Marxism, feminism, post-colonial studies’. Now, to you, that’s a liberal, right? But nothing in that equates my my liberal sides. Much like how to a liberal, those ‘sovereign citizen’ types are conservatives… but to conservatives they aren’t, per a comment below! So who is right? There’s no answer to that, but we can agree that assholes who burn the flag or beat people in the skull because of their skin color are assholes. I just think that’s a better point of commonality, and thus progress, for society than each side talking over the other giving them labels the people being labeled don’t feel apply.
Illig was not charged with a hate crime. He was drunk and Bi-polar. So he is actually crazy too. Sovereign Citizens are not Right Wing “conservatives”, conservatives want to conserve society not destroy it. Sovereigns are anarchists.
Your biggest mistake (and by the media) though was pretty simple. You assume that Trump is a hate symbol therefore everything that happens where his name is thrown out there or someone wearing a hat or liking a meme it must be a hate crime.
That would be kind of like everyone who ever did a bad thing to a person of another race while wearing a “Hope and Change” T-shirt also being a hate crime. Everyone who “liked” Obama…
I agree with you that sovereign citizens are not ‘conservatives’ – but I also don’t think Marxists, for example, are liberals. So the first example in Poe’s list (via the Daily Caller) is equally invalid as an example of ‘left-wing’ crime. That’s my point. When we go to a high level and lump crazies who are more left than right (like Marxists) as ‘liberals’, we get to do the same to the other side – and the wacky sovereign citizen types are certainly more right-than-left, so they get the conservative moniker. It’s not fair, .. and that’s the point.
That, and that some people are just batshit crazy and their politics shouldn’t matter. Jared Loughner was brought up in the other thread a few days ago and he’s an excellent example — according to his records, he’d been a Democrat… until months before the attack on Giffords when his friends claim he got all right-wing. Do we say his actions are the result of one side or the other, or just acknowledge he was nuts and stop trying to pin the blame on a political ideology that played a distant second-fiddle, if anything, to his mental health issues?
And no, I don’t assume Trump is a hate symbol; I just picked some examples where Trump was mentioned because he’s the face of the conservative party right now.
Several of those are not hate crimes or not eight wing. You are padding.
Or right wing either lol.
I absolutely was. I admitted the tenuous connection to ‘right-wing’ politics in some cases – but there’s also a tenuous connection to left-wing politics in examples posted above. That was partly my point. When a crazy-ass dude who eats people wears a Trump hat, Lefties will point it out as political. And when a crazy person stabs people and re-tweeted a Bernie Sanders tweet, right-wingers will point it out as political.
If a crazy person who is also political stabs or shoots someone, the problem is the crazy, not the politics.
No, the problem is NOT the crazy. The problem, LC, is the media.
THEY pin labels on something the minute THEY get wind of it.
Labeling a nutball who cannibalizes two victims as a political entity is NOT valid, but this is what the media does to stir up trouble.
If you are going to blame ANY group at all for stirring political trouble, blame the media. They hovered over the riots in Ferguson, MO, like a pack of vultures. THEY labeled George Zimmerman a racist white man, when he was not. THEY do this, not the conservatives among us, and you do conservatives poor service when you pull up the smarmy crap they use to exploit political tensions, especially when 99% of it is made up out of whole cloth BY THE MEDIA.
Alright, I mentioned my issues with the media above, and I was less convinced of their role (the mainstream media, anyway) than you,… but you have a real point with the stuff like the riots in Ferguson. Racial issues in the US are real, but I feel sometimes the coverage is almost afraid to take a critical tone towards a racial riot because, even though there are real issues we face in racial equality in the US, the charge of ‘racism!’ is still such a black mark on anyone, and the backlash is huge on it. And, regrettably, racism is largely seen as something that only whites do.
Buuut… I would caution you against claiming George Zimmerman was falsely branded a racist. He’s hardly a good example of misplaced anger.
So, yes, you have a point – media coverage, especially with race, I think still has issues. But I don’t think conflating the unique issue of race with everything liberal/conservative is at all helpful. It paints people like myself, who lean liberal on these sorts of issues, as the opposition, when in reality we probably have more in common (on this issue) than not.
I said ‘WHITE racist’. I was specific. You did not pay attention.
Been a long week, I apologize. I think that’s just laziness in our terminology – mixed-race people, which I think George Zimmerman is, are hard to qualify in the simple ‘white/black’ spectrum people like to use. Obama is another clear example of that. A good friend is half-asian, and whether they’re considered white or asian -because it’s often one or the other!- depends on the situation.
I don’t have any good answer to that. White/black is so ingrained in our culture when it comes to race.
And included in your list, Lars, are how many examples of organized political violence perpetrated by crowds of violent Trump supporters?
How about zero, zip, nada?
We’re not concerned about the “some people” you reference as just shitheads. Those types are always going to be with us, but even there you should walk lightly lad because history is not with you on that one either.
What we are demanding from you Lars is proof of organized political violence fomented by the Right against leftist or even neutral targets. Show us where the Right viciously attacks the general public or public business entities.
Please, if you will, cite the last example with date and location of the most recent event where a conservative crowd overturned and burned a police car?
What we would really appreciate your providing is video coverage of swarms of white conservatives looting and burning businesses in their own neighborhoods. And no, a few pale-skinned Hispanics amidst a sea of blacks is not considered proof.
Go to it, Lars, let’a see if you can dig up enough “Bullshit Propaganda” to counter what you call mine.
BE CAREFUL PT, you might make him whip out his EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE! Babbles McButthead is quite allergic to facts, logic and common sense as all SJW Howling Flower Monkeys are, he proves it with his imbecilic diatribe every time he comes out peeing his britches in front of God and everyone with another hissy fit.
I’m not Lars. If you’re so quick to get that wrong, time and time again, perhaps you also get wrong the political motivations of asshole protestors? 😉
I do think you’re moving the goalposts a bit when you ask for examples of organized political violence by crowds of Trump supporters, though. Most of the examples in your list weren’t from organized crowds of liberals either. And, let’s face it, there’s lots more liberals protesting right now because President Trump won the election – do you honestly not think it’d be reversed had Clinton won? If that happened, liberals wouldn’t be protesting (hence lower numbers), and some conservatives would… and it’s usually protestors -angry people- who resort to violence. The holier-than-thou attitude about conservatives is laughable in this context.
Plus, Trump has done lots of things liberals don’t like. Let me ask you this: if Clinton won, and tried to take away gun rights,.. do you think there wouldn’t be any violent protests? Because hey, people here often say things akin to ‘from my cold, dead fingers’, which seems to imply it wouldn’t just be a happy chanting protest around a drum circle.
No, LC, if Clinton had won, the rest of us who are conservative would have gone right on with our lives, wondering how much more tax money we have to cough up for worthless nonsense and how much leftie idiocy we’d have to put up with, including MORE gun control and MORE impairment of civil rights by that frabjous old sow.
But we wouldn’t have started riots, burned neighborhoods, cars and buildings, or rioted over the appearance of someone whose viewpoint we detest at a college campus.
We’re civilized beings.
The lefties in all their forms are NOT civilized.
If you want to argue that there are more lefties protesting than conservatives would’ve been had the election gone differently, I probably wouldn’t argue – I could see that. I don’t know for sure, but it’s reasonable.
If you’re telling me there’d be virtually no conservatives protesting, I think you’re dreaming. The proof will be in the days following the next Presidential election the Democrats win.
(I’m slightly Left. And know plenty of people who are considerably more Left. None of us burned cars, instigated violence or acted uncivilized.)
Protesting? Sure. Rioting? Yeah, not so much. There’s a difference.
Yeah, I don’t even know if I could argue with that. I’m far from certain, but I do think the liberals and conservatives would’ve handled the loss in this past election differently – the liberal violence happens in large protest groups, and I think (but admit I have no data) that the conservative violence would’ve been much more individualistic. But it’d definitely have happened.
There’s also a difference between a few random tinfoil-hatting asswipes and massive angry mobs.
True, and there’s also a difference between merely angry mobs -are there any other kind in protests?- and violent ones.
People protest when they’re angry. I’ve got no problem with people peacefully protesting when they’re angry. I do have a problem with the violence, but that was a very small percentage of the people protesting – probably akin to, and maybe slightly higher than (peer pressure effect) the level of violence you’d get from random tinfoil-hatting asswipes. The vast majority of the protesting was peaceful. Angry, but peaceful. And that’s okay – we’ve all got that right regardless of political affiliation.
Obviously, LC, you were not around in the 1960s when LBJ was elected. It was NOT conservatives who were violently protesting the Vietnam War and the draft. Some of us conservatives volunteered.
Poetrooper, LC is not Commissar.
You have the two of them mixed up. You can tell the difference because Commissar posts fragments instead of sentences, makes paragraphs out of a single sentence, and says nothing.
LC posts comments in a literate manner, not in fragments, rattles on more than Commissar, but could spend some time learning to compress his rattling on considerably – e.g., get to the point, Edna!
But he does prattle on endlessly and he always pushes the party line. Some of us don’t have time to bother with his blather.
I’m anti-Clinton and pro-2A and not even a Democrat. Which party line am I always pushing?
LC, if we looked hard enough, we could probably find the arrest of some dork wearing a Mets hat caught biting the heads off chickens. Such doesn’t doesn’t mean there’s a trend for baseball fans to abuse poultry.
Having spent some time with the data, it seems to me there needs to be a distinction made on this between crimes against people, and crimes against property. If you look at the people crimes, such as homicide, there does seem to be an indication that whites are charged with hate crimes more than other ethnic groups. But the statistic can also be misleading. Nor do the incidents approach numbers anywhere near in the “thousands.”
If somebody such as George Zimmerman shoots Trayvon Martin, the left is quick to point out it’s a hate crime, therefore an act of domestic terror. But is it? I’m not so sure. Conversely, if a black gang banger shoots a white resident during a home invasion, the gangsta is normally not charged with a hate crime. Greed motive aside, this could at least partially be because minorities, almost by definition, can’t be racist.
The picture with property crimes is somewhat clearer. According to FBI stats, those domestic terror groups involved in most incidents, here there apparently are thousands, and dollar-value damage support either radical environmental or animal rights causes. Both of which would not normally be considered conservative.
Oh, I agree completely – my point wasn’t, “Look how bad conservatives are!”, it was, “Here’s a bunch of crazy people doing stupid shit who apparently quoted Trump and/or liked him.” Meaning, while Poe labels all those cases (via the Daily Caller, not Poe’s call directly) as ‘liberals’ behaving badly… I think it’s generally just a bunch of stupid assholes, and not indicative of ‘liberals’. Further, I think that sort of rhetoric is completely unhelpful – it happens on the Left, too, where people just sort of grumble about this idea of a conservative, fueled by the few data points they see, typically the worst of the worst, and that’s a far cry from the typical conservative you might find anywhere – here, even. As for the data, I’ll have to take a look at the numbers myself. I like data over individual articles cherry picked from the thousands and thousands of things happening in the country on a given day. I personally wouldn’t be surprised if whites are charged with hate crimes more than any other ethnic group – there is a problematic philosophy amongst the left where people uncritically accept that non-whites can’t be racist. It’s not pervasive, but it’s significant enough to effect statistics, I think. And that’s assuming the numbers are normalized by population rate and age for crime – that’s a whole other can of worms if not. But the problem, in my personal opinion, is politics is so damn reactionary these days that if a Democrat says, “Oh, what a nice blue sky today!”, a Republican would almost instinctively insist it wasn’t blue at all. So when you take an issue like racial data on crimes and make it a political one (eg, ‘liberals are bad! look at these examples!’) instead of an ideological one (“Hey, ya know this growing notion that non-whites can’t be racist because ‘white privilege’? That’s bullshit.”), we run into the immediate D vs. R gridlock that permeates way too much of everyday life these days. To change gears for a moment, I’m always amused when I hear a young… Read more »
Lars, you were doing so well for a while. I am disappointed.
Facts not your straw man/ad hominum stuff, please.
What “thousands of hate crimes which are overwhelmingly right wing attackers”? Or do you include things like Christians proclaiming their beliefs that homosexuals are not right before God as “hate speech”? That begs the question, does it not?
And what do you count as “attacks on abortion clinics”? Protesters outside? Ensuring U.S. Tax dollars are not spent on abortions – as the law requires they not be? Or exposing the ghoulish trafficking of the organs of aborted children? I think you’d have to include those to get your numbers up above zero.
And you were doing so well for a while there, I was beginning to hope for reasoned dialogue.
He does give that about .01% of the time.
HEY Babbles McButthead, once again you ignore fact in order to spew the mindless propaganda spoon fed to you by your perfessers whom have never made a living in the real world that you accept as fact. Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, you and your ilk demonstrate that time after time. Your side masses together for some “Save the Earth” rally and leave the place looking like a landfill. Your side screams “Love trumps hate!” while beating Senior Citizens and anyone else that looks like they’ll be an easy victim.Just look at the mass hissy-fit over Milo appearing at UC Berzerkely where they went apeshit setting fires and even toppled and burned a mobile generator/light plant, aren’t your ilk against big carbon footprints, yada yada yada? Watch the video I posted earlier Babbles McButthead, and you’ll see just how YOUR side and ilk are just like the Nazis in Germany. WHEN was the last time anyone saw mobs of Conservatives wanting to beat down those who dissented with thwm? Where are there accounts of arson, rape, drug dealing and vandalism at Tea Party Rallies like we saw at “Occupy” infestations?
You lose yet again, Babbles McButthead.
Soooo the FBI terrorist watch list is populated mostly with right wing terrorists? The no fly list?
Maybe he is thinking of the eight year old debunked SPLC funded report on right wing terrorism that the FBI had thrust upon them? How none of their predictions panned out? That one?
It wouldn’t have surprised me if the FBI was more concerned about right-wing terrorism during the Obama years, and left-wing terrorism during the Trump years. That just seems fairly reasonable to me – after Obama was elected, militia groups had a considerable uptick in membership. That should set off alarm bells in law enforcement just as much as an uptick in anti-government left-wing fascists would.
I personally don’t know how to weigh the threat from either side to come up with a definitive ‘one side is worse’ answer. Do you? Let’s take one example from above, the ‘Crusaders’ in Kansas, who wanted to use a truck bomb to destroy an apartment complex that housed a bunch of Somali immigrants. Had law enforcement not succeeded in stopping them, it’d probably have been the worst terrorist attack since 9/11 in terms of fatalities with many tens of people killed.
Now, how do you weigh the actions of those three idiots vs., say, twenty left-wing idiots (just picking a number here) who shoot one person each. Do we say left-wingers are twenty times more likely to commit acts of terror in this scenario? Or do we say the bigger threat to a loss of life is from the right-wing with that one, single action?
This is a hypothetical, yes, but only because law enforcement was able to stop the attack. If you can tell me one side is clearly ‘better’ than the other, then you’re more clever than I am. I think it depends on what statistic you use. It’s a lot easier, in my opinion, to just say that people who kill because of politics are assholes of the highest order.
Lars, go back and read my opening paragraph. It’s not us, but you, who constantly drags out the moral equivalency argument. Now that you get challenged on it you start tap dancing like a WAPO reporter on Tucker Carlson’s show.
Put up or shut up.
By the way, helping to put out a couple of forest fires while in the military does not a firefighter make, Lars. While an Airborne MP at Fort Campbell, I guarded nuclear warheads being loaded on aircraft at Campbell Army Airfield. I do not tell people that I was a Nuclear Security Specialist.
Jonn, is there a category of Stolen Valor for firefighters? I think we may have our first one here…
As harebrained as he gets from time to time, LC is not Lars aka Babbles McButthead.
Very True API, and to Poe, he’s not the first Firefighter stolen valor.. there have actually been quite a few, especially after 9/11… there was one on the east coast recently, though i don’t recall the details, and am too busy to look it up just now..
Remember the flip-flopping elector in Texas last fall, whose fat ass looked ready to launch the buttons of his Class-A with lethal force. What was that douche’s name?
And yet the folks they seek are a mixture of lefty and jihadi. Odd, that.
And the actual head-busting seems to fall -on- the right, not from it.
You apparently conflate “right wing terrorism” with “not putting up with lefty bullshit” or “saying mean things the left hates”.
If the “right” were so prone to violence, there would be a bloodbath. Most have guns, most have some measure of skills with arms, many have military experience.
Yet the lack of any major casualties kinda screams “bullshit” when you wave the “terrorism” bloody shirt.
Non-zero number on the right, stipulated. its muhc, much smaller in -actual- events, by far. And stop trying to foist off -your- fringe, and random lunatics, as “right wing”. Oswald was a -communist-, not a conservative. But most of the left disowns that little factoid and blames “the right”.
Most of the recent focus on “the right” was driven by the prior administration trying to do -anything- to distract from the reality of jihadi fanatics that slaughter anything not fanatic -enough- in the -same- way as to blend in with their fanaticism. In other words “squirrel!”, and no one with half a brain is buying it.
But you and your ilk will keep denying reality, and keep psyching yourselves up with hate and rage. It won’t end well. Sooner or later, you are going to reap that whirlwind you keep trying to sow.
Reconsider.
Funny you mention Oswald since he was helped along by the communists AND the antifa of the day.
“Right wing terrorists are the most active terrorist in the US right now according to the FBI.” Names, asshole, NAMES!!!!! You have ZERO NAMES!!! YOU CAN’T NAME EVEN ONE, JACKASS! You can’t create complete sentences, either. As always, Commissar THE PIUPERDINK POODLEDICK ASSWIPE COMMISSAR barks and barks and barks and throws shit out at random passersby. He’s only in this to stir up the hornet’s nest. That will prove his point to the few people he can persuade to waste 10 minutes of their lives which they will never get back, waste that time on his self-righteous assholery. Okay, let’s look at some real world stuff, boys and girls. The Nazis: The full name was the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) called for short, Nazi. There you go: a group of freakin’ SOCIALISTS!!!!! Left-wingers! Hardly a bunch of rightwingers, but will this correct and historical rendering be accepted by the dimwitted clowndog Commissar and/or his associates, or the morons who populate the leftist liberidiot fields? Doubtful!! You see, it doesn’t fit their notions of what Nazi really means. Same thing with Fascism: Fascisti (Italian for Fascists) 1: often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control – Merriam Webster Dictionary Hitler was a man of the extreme left, and so was fellow fascist and Axis Powers member Benito Mussolini. But now, because Google has decided to LIE ITS ASS OFF in its own public venue, it has changed the Google definition to mean right wing, which is a blatant lie on the part of Google’s owners. Since Merriam-Webster has been around much, much longer than the lying assholes at Google, the prime example of abuse of the freedom of the internet to falsely influence people lies directly at the feet of the people who… Read more »
“Hitler was a man of the extreme left, and so was fellow fascist and Axis Powers member Benito Mussolini.” You obviously have an amazing capacity to spew complete and utter bullshit.
Whassup Joe!
It’s not bullshit Joe, you’re simply a brainless glue-sniffing inbred wino ballsack aficionado .
Nazis and Fasciti are SOCIALISTS, THEREFORE, LEFTISTS. SOCIALISTS = LEFTISTS, whether you like it or not, Joey the Braindead Numbskull.
Is that simple enough for you, you imbecile?
You’re a leftist. You should feel right at home with Hitler and Mussolini. There are plenty of photographs and movies of them together from the 1940s, jackass. Those are facts.
No matter how much you want to try, you cannot change history to suit yourself, you little pissant.
Joe, you demonstrate your lack of political perception. In Europe the proletariat has always leaned left as a response to feudalism. Hitler and Mussolini were most assuredly socialists.
Where confusion arises is with Hitler’s insistence on the superiority of of the Aryan race which often gets tangled with white supremacy in this country. Aryanism actually has little appeal in this country except for the fringes of the extreme right.
So, yes, Hitler was a racist, but he was a socialist racist and he was a socialist first, last and always.
PT, actually racism isn’t all that rare among leftists.. it’s pretty much the entire history of the left / democrats/ progressives in this country… look at margaret sanger as a perfect example.. in addition, hitler got his ideas for genocide from her and the american progressive movement of the 1920’s…
Hi Joe! since everyone else pretty much addressed your poo-flinging screed, i’ll just say, one more time PLEASE STOP SNIFFING GLUE!!!
I hope this link works. That’s Mussolini on the left, Hitler on the right, Joey.
http://images.wisegeek.com/hitler-and-mussolini-in-car.jpg
Boy, I must be tired. I have the title backwards. My bad.
Hitler is on the left, Benito Mussolini on the right.
Joey, the only difference between Nazis and regular socialists is that they’re officially more picky about who reaps the alleged benefits of their socialism.
So far, every communist regime on Earth has been pretty racist. The Soviets crapped on Ukrainians, Chechens, Mongols, and other non-Russians. Yugoslavia wasn’t so bad if you were a Serb (like Tito–go figure), different story for Bosniaks, Croatians, Moldovans, Albanians, etc. Red China sucks more than usual for Tibetans and Sherpas. Vietnam used to have a sizable population of Hmong and other Montagnard tribes, but they were on Ho’s shit list, to say nothing of French residents. Cuba’s leadership, like El Che, has considered blacks good for cannon fodder and not much else. And, of course, Pol Pot was claiming “Cambodia for Cambodians” when he started slaughtering ethnic Chinese (like my Father-In-Law) and Montagnards–turns out the son of a bitch actually meant “Cambodia for very, very few Cambodians.”
The Nazis were just up-front about it.
Now you’ve done it
Ex-PH! You have awakened Joey, and he has come out of his hole to shit and run. We now have the full trifecta of progtardism in play.
I like how you’ve been reading my comments about the FBI’s most wanted list for domestic terrorists being all left wing idiots then spun it around to attempt to sound intelligent when you’re just poorly flat out lying.
Nice try. Maybe next time.
Will you be bailing out your antifa crew when they are finally arrested for criminal conspiracy is the real question we want to know, Lars.
Are you referring to the FBI report from 2009? The one that followed on the heels of the one that DHS released earlier? The one that was proven to be bullshit?
Nice try clinging to a bullshit narrative.
Let’s go visit the FBI page for current news:
Juan Thompson – Anti- Semitic bomb threats – Hard Left Democrat
ALI KOURANI and SAMER EL DEBEK, a/k/a “Samer Eldebek,” were arrested on Thursday, June 1, 2017, on charges related to their alleged activities on behalf of Hizballah –
A federal jury convicted an Alexandria man today of providing material support to the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS).
According to court records and evidence presented at trial, Mohamad Jamal Khweis, 27
Tairod Pugh, an American citizen and former member of the U.S. Air Force, was sentenced to 35 years in prison following his March 9, 2016 trial conviction for attempting to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria
Phillip Ray Robison, Jr., 36, of Hartford, Arkansas, pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge M. Douglas Harpool on Thursday, May 25, 2017, to one count of maliciously conveying false information related to explosive materials. – If he were tight wing he would be the only right wing illegal drug dealer I know of
James Cherry, 58, of Washington, D.C., was sentenced today to 30 months in prison on a federal charge stemming from a 911 call he made last summer that falsely claimed numerous bombs were set to go off at Union Station – Democrat
Laith Waleed Alebbini, 26, of Dayton, Ohio, with one count of attempting to provide material support and resources to the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS)
That is all the news that is news this month. So unless ISIS has become right wing all of the sudden well… the usual you are wrong as always.
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Religious Fanatics are Liberal Democrats.
Pant Load
Funny. In the thread following the post about “whitewashing terrorists”, I offered the warning:
“Is [that] all this was? a chance to score points? Because if you cant count, all sorts of folks here are gonna tan your hide with scores you seem to ignore. ”
[one glaring typo (argh…) corrected]
And gee willikers! Didn’t ol’ Poetrooper break out the clue-by-four and lay it upside someone’s over-inflated ego…
Sometimes it is a great day, standing around watching comeuppance happen.
Let’s not forget ‘If it was reported as a hate crime, odds are it was a phony hate crime.’
http://moonbattery.com/links/Hate-Hoax-List.html
I honestly don’t get why the wanna be commissar child isn’t simply ignored.
I have no doubt that his twisted mind and little bitch ego receive gratification from being able to trigger responses here.
Everyone should simply ignore his posts. Nothing to be gained in replying to him.
Most of the time I think so, but at the same time he makes himself int “that guy” who sets himself up to get his ass kicked as well as the one who others enjoy watching go apeshit when he gets his own crap thrown right back at him.
I think that the pickledicked PIUPERDINK POODLEDICK Commissar DER COMMISSAR is a closet masochist. The only way he can get attention is to say something that will get it, and he will keep poking the bear until the bear snaps back and flattens him.
I think the TAH Bear is feasting on his political entrails right now…
Oh pulleze! The entire Trump campaign was based on the implied, or actual, threat of violence.
And we know that because making violent threats is a crime and everyone in the Trump campaign is under indictment for this crime?
Yep, i remember all the riots, crowds burning things, and attacking people while attending democrat rallies… oooh wait, yeah, that never happened… Joe just shit his pants again, and wants to blame it on PRESIDENT TRUMP…
America first and enforcing rule of law isn’t violence unless you’re a enemy of the United States and are trying to overthrow it.
Project much, Joe?
Save the pulleze crap for your lefty comrades, Joe. Your laughable assertion is nothing more than straight-out-of the DNC war room propaganda and you damned well know that’s the truth.
Your side lost a big one tonight, Joe. All that elitist California money couldn’t get a socialist Democrat elected in Georgia. You turds keep playing your game of resistance and public violence, the American electorate is going to kick your teeth in.
Smile real big for us, Joe…
Oh! Ossoff LOST? And I can’t get the news until the ball game is over. What was the score? Is the count all in?
What a kick in the junk. They spent more than $400 a vote to lose by four points. If you can’t win spending that much money… you can’t win.
Looks like they got their referendum on Trump.
Ossoff is probably locked in his hotel listening to 4 Non- Blondes over and over again
Someone said that that was THE most expensive Congressional race ever. ALL THAT money from outside sources and they still couldn’t carpetbag that seat! 😂😀😄😜
Don’t forget the Montana race to it smashed records in that state for money spent
And the D-rats couldn’t carpetbag that seat either! 😀😄
Oh pulleze! The entire Clinton campaign was based on the implied, or actual, threat of violence.
See, I can make shit up too.
Hey, Joe… who set your tampon on fire? Still waiting on that Skittle-shitting, cotton candy farting unicorn to show up on your doorstep?
Da fukk?! Smells like burnt cat hair, stale beer and adrenalin in here!
Carry on.
What pool hall are you hanging out in? Isn’t it past your bed time?
Sleep is a crutch
I remember a short story, back when I was studying German in my local U, about life in Germany during the rebuilding phase. One of the characters, asked about when he slept, answers “Shclaffin ist Sin.”
(Sorry my ‘puter doesn’t punctuate in German.)
…’Tis a consummation
devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep,
To sleep, perchance to Dream; aye, there’s the rub,
for in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,
when we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
must give us pause.
Ex-PH2 (rightly) points out I tend to ramble; so here’s a brief response:
I don’t leap in when you’re critical of liberals.. hell, I’m critical of liberals. I leap in sometimes when you take a set of examples of something negative in which liberalism isn’t the primary cause, and then try to paint liberals with that wide brush.
I take umbrage when idiots on the Left do the same with select examples and rail against ‘conservatives’ based on a narrative constructed by the most extreme examples which generally have nothing to do with conservative politics. (Eg, if a racist asshole who is also conservative attacks a black guy, it’s because he was a racist asshole, not because he was a conservative.)
And yes, this is short for me.
I can agree with that.
LC,
If I understanding correctly, you are trying to make the same point as Avner Zarmi here:
https://pjmedia.com/election/2017/06/20/the-perils-of-the-tribal-echo-chamber/
Am I correct?
I have a million dollar question here for all of you TAHers
Is McCain of Arizona a closet Democrat masquerading as a Republican
Or is he one of the new or hybrid political hacks bought and paid for by special interests
In DC ????
BHWHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !
The latter is what I think he is. IMHO he’s also an example of what’s WRONG with the Great Whorehouse on the Potomac River and a reason why we need to have Congressional Term Limits.
My recently passed old man. Same age as McCain and a fellow Vietnam Vet. Very smart guy, educated, in law enforcement for 38 years. 17 as a Chief of Police and 9 as a Sheriff.
All that being said. Toward the end of his life I wouldn’t have trusted him to find his keys.
But we let the likes of McCain make national decisions.
Smfh
The left is begging for a civil war
It will not work out the way they envision though
Eventually folks on the right are going to tire of their BS
Just remember: Robespierre, who sent many people to the guillotine because they were aristocrats, or only distantly related to them, met the same fate he foisted on those people he murdered.
I keep hoping to see the more radical of these idiots turn on each other. I think that may be coming soon.