Big Red One Commander suspended
The Army Times reports that the commander of the 1st infantry Division, Major General Wayne Grigsby has been suspended from his duties.
Maj. Gen. Wayne Grigsby “is currently the subject of an official investigation, and we cannot comment further at this time,” an Army official said in a statement.
Army officials declined to provide any additional information, including the nature of the investigation.
Grigsby took command of the 1st Infantry Division at Fort Riley, Kansas, in August 2015, according to his official bio.
Category: Army News
I don’t know what this is about, but the huge number of military Bigs whose careers have been extinguished since oBaMa entered the White House makes me wonder. I don’t care who you are, if you are marked, you are done. It’s just a question of whether you will be publicly disgraced and executed or you take a hint, walk to your den, close the door, and bite down on the capsule you were given.
Stalin simply had Officers shot, B. Hussein 0bama & Company do all they can to tarnish and mudsuck them for life!
Byrnes, Weightman, and Kiley are a few off the top of my head. Wait, wrong administration. This stuff happens all the time irrespective of the presidency. Also, there was this: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2007-05-01/bush-and-generals
No, this stuff doesn’t happen all the time, certainly not to the extent that oBaMa has conducted his purge. Moreover, tow of the generals you cited, Kiley and Weightman, were chin-deep in the Walter Reed mess and thoroughly deserved to be shown the door. Byrnes, it is said, was nailed by Mr. Nasty Pants, Donald Rumsfeld, for disagreeing with the approach to war prosecution. I do not believe that disagreements with oBaMa over actual military matters prompts the purge but, instead, that objections regarding the social re-engineering lab that the mil has become. I don’t pretend to know what’s goping on behind closed doors. I do know that an ordinate number of mil Bigs have been shown the door since 2008.
You don’t pretend to know what’s going on, but you’re assuming, without evidence, that the president is behind a purge of generals over social issues. There are at least five folks in between the 1ID CG and the CINC who could have relieved him. Why does it have to be because of a “purge?” He could have been putting his Big Red One where it didn’t belong.
Is that an assumption?
I think it’s a glimpse into the mind of folks who view everything through a political lense. I think it’s a much safer assumption to go with a standard reason for a GO to be under investigation.
Seriously so you think Obama had something to do with this or am I mis-understanding you? If you doing wrong people talk within your command. The president isn’t there to se everything buddy. Keep your nose clean and you succeed.
Perhaps his ‘old style’ command bearing created a ‘hostile work environment’?
Well, I want to know more, too. That’s kind of a short tour of duty, but on the other hand, the current CO at NAVSTAGLAKES has been there for +2 years now, and replaced someone who had been there barely a year.
This is ‘wait and see’.
Oh, and lest I forget, I’d hit him.
With a skillet???
No. He’s hot. I invoked IDC_SARC.
He makes you weak at the knees and go “WOOO WOOO WOOO”? 😉
Fuck it. If I was, I would.
That is all.
I refuse to define, explain or defend my taste in men.
So I wonder is this the last ditch effort of the clown crew in DC to wreck the military before you know who leaves office ? ? ?
Maybe the general asked an Asian officer for help on a math problem or told a black officer he was articulate ( Gonzaga Univ definition of micro aggression).
Oh, and a couple of USAF generals featured on TAH who were disciplined for misconduct, Maj Gen Mike Carey & Lt Gen John Hesterman, were permitted by the SECAF to retire in grade.
I think that the commandant of West Point may be next, but there is a problem with that: the commandant is a woman. But she’s white and NOT a lesbian so maybe she’s not safe. Anyhow, La Raza is offended b/c two cadets were photographed with sombreros at the Army/UTEP game last week. I kid you not. A formal complaint was lodged demanding that the pic be removed form a West point website. West Point issued a gobbly gook (diversity….blah, blah….diversity….blah, blah….) statement saying the pic will remain posted. La Raza is not happy and, therefore, oBaMa will not be.)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/09/22/west-point-criticized-after-cadets-wear-sombreros-at-army-football-game-near-mexico/
Perhaps La Raza does not like to be reminded that Latinos/Chicanos/Hispanics make good US citizens. It doesn’t fit their line of whine.
And once again, Dear Readers, another reason to vote against Hillary Clinton: To prevent this kind of politically correct insanity from continuing.
You post on here all the time but now you have no clue, but to blame Hilary, President, so wait to see what was the real deal.
And for the record, I do not give a flying fart in space what La Raza likes or wants.
I care about them about as much as I care about not offending muzzies and IDGAFFIOS about them!
When Trump takes over, any of these railroaded generals will be reinstated!!
Yeah sure that’ll happen.
Well, he could have been “suspended from his duties” for the usual disease that affects some flag officers – hidethesalamitis.
Sure. There will always be a reason. That’s what makes the purge acceptable to the public. And if some of this country’s greatest wartime generals and admirals had the same standards actually applied to them, we’d be speaking Japanese or German about now.
Japanese in California-German in New York? You know, Cav, that might not be such a bad idea.
Just sayin…
Why not, they primarily speak Spanish and Farsi in New York and Spanish in California.
Why not? People in Chicago speak Russian, Polish, Sanskrit, Nepali, Sindi, Bodo, Italian, Vietnamese, Chinese (several dialects) and Spanish.
When I was I recruiting, I discovered LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) had to have at least one translator employed by the district if at least five students in the district were ESL.
Guess how many languages that entailed?
84. Yup. Eighty fucking four.
And think about how many translators they had for Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Tagalog, Korean, etc., that entailed.
Shame. By all accounts he is a good Officer and leader.
If he’s a good officer and leader, he may have been overheard bitching about something political, the way we do here. If so, he’s toast.
Did he have sex with a transgender soldier? Maybe he is missing his yearly SHARP training.
Or did he make a joke about a transgender that was reported?
If he did that he would be appointed to the joint chiefs of staff right away. Obama would need him real close.
These dudes are dropping like flies.
I guess integrity went out the door under this administration.
Do not know what he did, but it can’t be good.
This is not the fault of the administration.
If bankers were being arrested would you say it is the administrations fault as well?
My opinion is that it is the administrations fault they are not being arrested.
And the only blame to go around for most of these commanders being relieved is the commanders themselves. Not the administration. In fact if the administration did not act I would blame the administration.
Did someone flush the toilet? Never mind, it was just PDtBF. AKA Lars.
Poodle Dick the….
What doe the BF stand for?
I know it is not buddy fucker or blue falcon because I never did that in my life.
Bug F**ker.
So why is this administration got of has gone after anyone involved in the banking business since taking office
Could it be because of all the money they give Democrats and Hillary ??
Is there any actual published stats on persons relieved and why, over say the last 20 years?
Nobody on this board has any idea why he was suspended or the nature of the investigation.
Yet, many of you concluded it is Obama’s fault and reason not to vote for Hillary or the fault of liberals in general.
Generally when the army refuses to comment at all, even about the nature of the wrongdoing, it is because there is a victim, or a minor involved, or because the conduct itself is so highly prejudicial to good order and discipline and they want to get all the facts they can before any information is disclosed.
I guess maybe we are tired of hearing it’s Bush’s fault, but I could be wrong.
I do not hear that much anymore. Except for those things that he really should share blame for.
He is among the 10 worst presidents in US history.
Obama says this post is Bush’s fault.
What, this officer being relieved? That is nonsense.
This guy was probably in positions like division deputy 3, brigade commander, brigade 3, and battalion commander as well as his senior service school during the Bush years.
Bush did not even know he existed.
You really are one sorry, humorless, clueless moron.
Dude, that sarcasm was as obvious as a Canine Zampolit on a US Milblog.
I would place Obama in the ballpark of top ten as well.
Sure, I suspect many would on this forum.
But the aggregate rankings currently put him in the top 50% of presidents. Though that will shift as more is known about his presidency and the consequences of his policies.
I estimate he will settle in the 14th to 19th range.
Bush is in the bottom 25%. And he is not going up.
Makes you wonder how your opinion is so divergent from the historical empirical data. Perhaps it is because “academics” are looking a the data.
Poodle,
Even scholars are influenced by ideology.
“Makes you wonder how your opinion is so divergent from the historical empirical data.” The so-called empirical data you refer to are infused with opinion, and it’s Lefty opinion at that.
Not Lars… his views aren’t clouded by the teachings of his profs at Berkley! Never!
/sarc
You’re a moronic liberal sycophant. Bush, like Reagan and Bush 1 were duped by the Dems. Reagan and Bush 1 thought that congress agreed to reduce government spending (the only real way to reduce the debt). But we continued to study why grasshoppers fuck and how new Origami figures can reduce green house emissions. During G.W. presidency their liberal housing policies caused the housing crash thus the economic debacle we are in now. Don’t you recall the quick absence of barney frank – Dems had to get rid of the name that led to the housing debacle. Your savior Obama has doubled the total national debt and you think his is #14-19. Get off the kool-aid and stop smoking the crap you peddle
And where does Reagan fall?
Better yet, where do Carter or LBJ fall?
Reagan falls between 8-14 overall. LBJ 10-18.
This means both are almost certain to come out ranked higher than Obama on average. There is still a lot to be determine about the historical consequences of Obama’s presidency but I suspect that the current trend does not indicate he acted as a visionary with respect to future public good. Despite the hate it gets from some segments of the right he is a pretty center left president. Most of his ideas are essentially center right ideas from the 80s and 90s that the left has now adopted. I doubt Obama will do much better than 14th.
These are polls of top scholars that specialize in analyzing US political history and public policy in historical context. There are several polls with several methodologies.
From the standpoint of economics, international security, international trade, finance, corporate polices, and domestic security both parties have moved significantly right over the last 25 years. It is on social issues that they have diverged and the democrats have moved left while the GoP has stood pretty much the same ground it did 25 years ago.
If you were engaging in a bit of “better living through chemistry” when you wrote the above, I want some of whatever you were smoking. Why? Because that’s obviously some really good sh!t.
If you were sober and serious when you wrote that, you are a deluded fool who cannot think for himself and merely parrots whatever absurd propaganda your superiors in the Leftist Hierarchy feed you. Those two statements are each so ridiculous on their face that they neither warrant – nor require – a detailed debunking.
That is nonsense. I spend most of my time on sources and reading theories that challenge my beliefs.
And the ignorant anti-intellectual notion that people are being brainwashed by leftist academics is disgracefully ridiculous and has been a drag on our economy, national security, and prosperity.
So many right wing assumption are UTTERLY DEBUNKED by EMPIRICAL DATA.
Particularly about economics.
Yet despite the evidence the right clings to notion that it is some leftist conspiracy.
Without even realizing that most of the right wing assumptions about the economy came from ACADEMICS they were theories that worked in models but have historically proven to fail in practice BECAUSE THE ASSUMPTIONS OF THE MODELS WERE WRONG.
When academics are wrong they change their assumptions, study the data, and try to generate new theories.
When you guys are wrong you ignore the data and call it a conspiracy by leftist academics.
Carter is 24-31 range across the polls.
Carter was not an effective president. But many of his beliefs on where the country needed to go and what we needed to do were actually very prescient, he just had them in an era where they seemed out of touch.
I think that is what keeps him out of the bottom 25%. But he is bottom 50%.
Well, brothers and sisters, I live near Riley and I’m investigating. I’m not finding, so far, any juiciness. I’m hearing the word budget alot. But of course, when the boss goes bye bye, how many stories get around. .. but, from those I know yet serving, none have said much derogatory. I hope that’s the way it stays.
Plausible. If his command screwed up management of its command budget badly enough (grossly overspent, spent the wrong “color of money” for things, etc . . . .), he could end up being the “fall guy”. I understand that sometimes commands do skate “close to the line” at times regarding those items. And that could indeed trigger an investigation.
Retired Marine here, first TAH comment. First met MG Grigsby at the ICCC and later worked directly for him in Iraq. I considered him one of the best officers I’d served with, an exemplary leader. I’m sure it’s all BS.
Proud commander of a “Large Red One” – I guess in his pants?
It is trump who has publically threatened a “purge” of the field grade officer corps of those who oppose the donald.does the name Stalin ring a bell?
Field Grade? Gee that’s aiming a bit low, maybe you meant the generals, and admirals. Anyway, yes there is a kind of “purge” of senior officers that happens when a new sheriff is appointed (POTUS, SECDEF, service secy, service chief, etc…). Bosses want their kind of people filling senior positions…thus to make room many scores of generals/flags & senior civilian appointees are gently advised to put in for retirement.
This guy spoke at my commissioning, and he was a very effective speaker on the importance of taking care of your troops at all costs. My professor worked for him in Iraq and Afghanistan and held him in the highest esteem for his character and values. I hope it comes to naught.
First MG Haight, then MG Grigsby… I don’t know man, I would still follow either of those men into hell and back, because I know they could bring me home.
Clarification: “My professor worked for him in Iraq and Afghanistan” That’s supposed to be “Iraq or Afghanistan” and I just had it confirmed that it was just Iraq. Typing from emotion.
He’s officially been relieved. See here: http://www.wibw.com/content/news/Big-Red-One-commander-fired-as-investigation-continues-394853391.html