Gun control casualties
The Chicago Tribune noticed that August 2016 is the deadliest month for Chicagoans in almost two decades with more than 2800 gunshot victims of whom 487 were killed. It seems to be a national trend;
Chicago has a lower homicide rate than many other U.S. cities that are smaller in population. But this year, the city has recorded more homicides and shooting victims than New York City and Los Angeles combined, even though the two cities are larger than Chicago’s population of roughly 2.6 million.
New York, with more than three times the population of Chicago, has recorded 760 shooting victims and logged 222 homicides, according to NYPD crime statistics through Aug. 21. In Los Angeles, a city of about 4 million, 176 people have been slain and 729 people shot, according to LAPD crime data through Aug. 20.
WGN reports that just last weekend 67 Chicagoans were shot, 11 died from their wounds.
Apparently, a military-aged American is safer in uniform in Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan fighting ISIS than living in inner-city America. New York, Chicago and Los Angeles also have the strictest gun control in the country reinforcing the old saw that when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. And the rest of us can’t protect ourselves from those outlaws.
So when are we going to have a discussion about gun control that highlights these shining examples?
Category: Guns
Wait up a sec. The SCOAMF sez that gun control laws drive DOWN crime.
If that’s his idea of down, I’d hate to see up.
Oh, and if you think Killary doesn’t want to take your guns away, listen to what she and her brain-dead daughter have said of late. The mask has slipped more than once, although the media will never report it.
When Dwayne Wade’s relative (sister?) was shot ESPN played up the “gun violence” aspect. No mention of any other possible variables.
Can you say “QED”?
Too bad facts don’t really matter to the SJWs.
Correlation =/= causation so I think it’s a real stretch to say that gun control caused (or even materially affected) this spike in homicides/shootings.
If anything I’d blame the so-called “Ferguson effect.” i.e. cops are so afraid of being publicly strung up for shooting someone that they are just putting on blinders, sitting in their cars and sipping coffee instead of proactively seeking out criminals.
The criminals know this and so they’re having a heyday.
But really, can you blame the cops for taking this attitude? They know that a life-or-death decision they make in a split second will be endlessly analyzed and re-played by the Monday-morning-quarterbacks and Armchair generals in the media and in the activists groups until the activists get the conclusion they want: Bad Cop.
Then the cop faces all the negatives that come with such an incident: Loss of job, prosecution, being publicly pilloried – who the hell wants to face that?
So they just keep driving and look the other way when they see the gang banger giving them the stink eye.
If I was a cop in any big city I’d be polishing my resume and looking for a nice safe gig in a quiet suburb or small town, far from the activist groups and prying eyes of the media.
And as usual, it’s the poor folks in the middle who suffer the most, which is something that the BLM and anti-cop activists don’t seem to get – that they’re hurting the very people on whose behalf they are supposedly protesting.
There is a sense that correlation by itself does not prove causation.
However, causation in the rigorous sense is not what is being argued here by this observation.
Regardless, material relationship can be observed in the full observation that, wherever and whenever “gun control” activists rule, violent crimes increase, whereas wherever and whenever citizens are not denied their rights to keep and bear arms violent crimes decrease.
The number of times this observation holds true lends itself to the argument that while implementation of gun control is not sufficient to cause an increase in violent crime, it is a significant contributor to that phenomenon.
The so-called “Ferguson effect” is, IMHO, nothing more than an aspect of the gun-control culture, not a distinct phenomenon.
Yeah, I do not recall ever seeing this level of shootings in Chicago when I was living there. This ramped up when may-error Rahmbo took the Mayor’s gavel and has gotten worse ever since.
What those stories do not mention enough is that the ‘name’ victims, like Dwyane Wade’s sister and Hadiya Pendleton, are specifically targeted because they are connected to someone even vaguely prominent. Hadiya Pendleton was one of several teens invited to perform in a group at the White House in 2013.
When the El Rukhns and Jeff Fort ran the gangs on the south side, it was bad, but nothing like it is now.
Just glad I don’t live there any more.
Interesting that you mentioned the old gangs. I’ve talked to a couple Chicago area law enforcement guys and both put down the surge in violence to LEAs having broken the power of some of the larger criminal groups.
They had something of a balance of powers act running. Now the smaller gangs are all vying for their piece of the drug pie.
Chicago has strict laws only in regards to LEGAL gun possession. Penalties for ILLEGAL possession are nothing less than a joke. Originally from the UK and having lost firearms to a government “gun grab”, let me tell you what gun control penalties are when government gets serious. Illegal possession of a firearm, where possession means not only carrying, but can mean found anywhere on your property, has a minimum sentencing mandate.
Aged 18 to 21, minimum sentence is three years. Over 21 the minimum is five years. This is for possession only, use in a criminal act will add additional time.
In Chicago the average number of prior arrests for someone actually going to trial charged with firearm possession is four, average sentence is one year, average time served is less than six months. For a felon with a gun, the average number of previous convictions is ten, the average sentence is three years but time served is less than one. A joke.
I don’t like Rahm Emanuel or any of his kind but he did try to up the sentencing increased. His opposition and the reason he failed? The NRA maybe? No, the city’s own black ‘leadership’ who felt increased sentencing would unfairly target young black males!
80% black shooters, 80% black victims, 80% black gang related. You really couldn’t make this shit up.
BLM.
He didn’t try hard enough. I know what you’re talking about, but he does not have the respect/loathing from aldermen that the Daleys had.
If John Daley had said ‘Jail them’, they’d be in jail and no light sentences, no early outs. Ditto Richie Daley, although he was not as forceful as his father about it.
The only way that Chicago will get this crap under control is to let Eddie Johnson have a free rein with the gangbangers. He knows who they are – more than 400-plus, in fact — and he is sick of it. When the side-effects of Ferguson and Baltimore die away, and they will, the police will be far more effective. Rahm Emanuel is as close to incompetent as you can get in this business. If he weren’t, then this heinous behavior wouldn’t be creeping out to the south and southwest suburbs. It would be held in check.
By comparison, there are places in Gary, Indiana, that NO cop will go into, period. But Gary is in a neighbor state, the whole town is suffering blight, and that won’t change until someone like their current mayor takes the bull by the horns, as she is doing.
Here’s a website that you might want to bookmark and return to again and again. It’s a hoot. The stats link is updated daily and the selected incident reports and commentary are a scream. It’s a Windy City site called Hey Jackass! You will readily recognize the wisdom of the contributors.
Jackasshttp://heyjackass.com/enlightening-commentary/
Whoops. Here you go:
http://heyjackass.com/enlightening-commentary/
The second city cop blog is great too. The comments from real cops reflect their new catch phrase “stay fetal”
Bullshit it does! I just did those numbers two days ago
2014
Chicago, IL
Pop: 2,722,389
Firearm Homicides: 390
Rate: 14.3/100K
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/chicago-homicides…
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/a0763098.html
By comparison, per 100K residents, same year…
NYC: 2.2
LA: 4.7
San Antonio: 5.4
San Diego: 2.5
Dallas: 7.7
San Jose: 1.8
That’s 7 of the top 10 most populous cities in the U.S. Philadelphia ranks pretty high at 13.2 and I haven’t yet been able to locate the numbers for Houston or Phoenix yet
Houston in 2014 10.9/100,000 per City-data.com. Same site calls out Chicago at 15.1/100K..call it 40% higher. It also calls NYC at 3.9/100K, not the 2.2 shown.
Phoenix it says was 7.5100K
I would normally not describe Houston as several times more lethal than NYC or LA.
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Aren’t most of the shootings gang on gang violence? Or is it mostly innocent people being shot by gang members?
Most people don’t even recognize the fact that per capita, Milwaukee has a worse crime rate than Chicago.
As long as the genocide affiliated with liberal rule for generations continues the violent death rate for young black males will continue.
And then they blame it on the cops and us crackers out in the suburbs…